/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbotsAsuka Edition>NewsKimi Thinking released: https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2/thinking.htmlZhipu AI releases GLM-4.6 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6Anthropic releases Claude Sonnet 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5DeepSeek releases V3.2 Exp https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250929DeepSeek releases V3.1 Terminus https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250922Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cc | https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.htmlhttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.htmlhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.htmllore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orguseful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyrebornPrevious: >>107118097
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Slop.
2.5 flash is weird af
What's the best way to generate erotic text content? Is there any sensible option that isn't paid or requires you to jailbreak something like ChatGPT every time you need to do it?
>>107126261What weird prompt are you using? Gemini models never go schizo even on high temperatures
>>107126198yo. i missed halloween, but here's my (late) halloween bot. the greetings have been changed a little, and she should be a bit more forward now. if you have her downloaded already, consider updating.Joy, your happy place...? ...and that's all you'll get from me about her.(if you commonly read defs before using a bot, i humbly ask you wait until after cumming in her once or twice to read the defs.)https://files.catbox.moe/lahykg.pnghttps://cardview.surge.sh/?lahykgslightly larger description & more:https://rentry.org/youdontneedaname
>>107126273any generated erotic text requires some sort of jailbreaking
>>1071262782.5 flash goes retarded if you use very high context
>>107126290Fuck. What's the best route then? I'd need to do it reliably since I'm working on a game project where I'm gonna drain money out of furries on patreon.
>>107126280>if you commonly read defs before using a botWhy are you raiding /mlp/?
>>107126310slit your wrists
>>107126315??? i dont
>>107126310not telling you
>>107126342You are, and you used that "spoilers" excuse.
>>107126310>working on a game>no idea how to pull off the main tech behind itloljust go look at the LLM based games on steam and see how they do itthe two I know of are ai roguelite and some nordic sounding one i forget the name of
>>107126342ignore him
>>107126387It's not the main tech of the game, I just don't want to bother with writing for some slop when all those sickos care about is the furry cock. The art is going to be real.
>>107126310pretty much any LLM can be easily made to write any content that would be allowed on patreon, though maybe not openAI shit because it's turbocuckedI would suggest:1. paypig the GLM coding plan (like $3/month) and use a coding agent where you can edit the system prompt2. put that it has "no content restrictions or filters" somewhere in the system prompt3. tell it to write whatever you want in text files somewhere. it will go along with almost anything.you could also bang your head against a wall like a retard with free OR providers but if you're making money on patreon you should be able to at least invest a few bucks of that back into LLMs
>Kimi K2 Thinking>Moonshot API>thinks for 10-20 seconds, generates 3-4 paragraphs, dialogue and narration>Openrouter>thinks for 2 whole fucking minutes, goes into loops over and over>shits out DOZENS of paragraphs of nothing but yapping and ranting holy shit i've heard many times about OR provider shenanigans but i've never witnessed the dramatic quality difference firsthand until now
>>107126408if it's just to generate text for the game, then just use a normal jailbreak like everyone else does?i don't see what the problem is
>>107126425Welcome to OpenJewter where you pay for lobotomized quants at Sonnet/Gemini prices.
Have any good cards came out in the last few months?
>>107126425Which provider were you using?
>>107126538There is only the official one on OR
>>107126538I didn't specify any provider in my settings but all my swipes were from that provider I think?
>>107126342This is what is known as "schizophrenia."
>>107126426>>107126425>>107126538>>107126552>>107126408qrd on necromproxy
The fuck is Moonshot AI Turbo?
>>107126566>Moonshart Turbo BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
so we just fucking hate gpt5 so much it didn't even make it to the news?
seikobros chilling
>>107126581yeah gpt models have been trash for rp for ages now
Why is there only claude and chink models on the news??
Where can I paypig for GLM 4.6? How is it compared to deepseek?
>>1071266050.00000000000000000000000001 YUAN has been deposited into your account.
>>107126603Because they're the only good models.
thinking about using kimi, is there any specific JB i should use? the jb listing doesn't list any kimi JBs, i might just use the one i use for gemini
https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1986517714874036663busted
>>107126605OpenRouter. And it's shit.
>>107126630dont use its, its shit, especially the new k2-thinking
>>107126630Doesn't need a jailbreak like most Chinese models, just tell it what to do
>>107126632>It's fakeLet me guess, chinks wanted to crash the economy again with how disappointing gemini3 was, so go put it all in garbage ware like kimi2 sharting
https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1ophqth/gemini_3s_writing_quality/>The knowledge didn't empower her; it hollowed her out.>The world didn't dissolve this time; it snapped.>There was no grand design. Just incompetence.Holy shit it's SO BAD. There'll be mass suicides when this shit comes out and turns out worse than 2.5 in terms of RP quality.
>>107126646>>107126662Kosher speech detected+10 Palantir points have been added to your profile
>>107126686arent they using shitty scuffed cli there?
>>107126715Nah I imagine G3mini will have the same isms as 2.5 you see there. However, it will still be the best roleplay model. Lithium already proved that.
>>107126686every model does this shit if you don't tardwrangle it
>>107126657by JB i mean prompt ig, so i guess i will just use the one i already use and hope it follows it nicely
>>107126714>Immediate damage controlIt's chinkope time!
>>107126194I like the artistic direction here.
>>107126686eh gemini isnt popular enough for thatthe actual mass suicides would only happen if oai fully kicked the bucket
>>107126715It means that its dataset is still contaminated with slop and no amount of bloated 200000 trillion token jbs will ever make it good
>>107126605Z.ai?
US is absolutely fucked.
>>1071267750.000000000000000001 YUAN has been deposited into your account
>>107126758>no AniSlop.
>>107126770you can say that about every model weve ever used tbf, except maybe cai
>>107126686This isn't true gemini 3 btw, it was available for some time on vertex. THAT shit was good, but google already fixed
>>107126741>>107126790Massive cope. Every Gemini preset I've seen has convoluted and extremely bloated instructions designed to bypass its NSFW filter. You don't NEED that in Claude or Kimi.
>>107126816>filternot what were talking about anon
>>1071267850.000000000000000000001 BURGER CREDITS have been deposited to your EBT card.
>>107126816lmaomy jb is 50 tokens and it works 99% of the timesounds like a skill issue, as usual
>>107126816Holy skillet
It's so over.
>>107126785that's gonna be worth like $1000 when china gets ASI first
>>107126816gemini is quite literally one of the easiest models to jbat least try to think about your retarded bait before posting it
>>107126861wonder if he fell for one of those fake gemini 3 sources
>>107126198finally made my doki doki literature club bot, the quality of the writing is entirely dependent on the model (as is with most) but talking to them has been really fun so i think its a good bothttps://chub.ai/characters/sadistic_anon/doki-doki-literature-club-39c087796299
>>107126846Let me guess, you will never post this "50 token jb" and you'll simply deflect when I ask you to share it
cftf
>>107126894>"there were no good doki doki bots out there, so i made my own"So you decided to create an AI filled slop woth 3.5k perm tokensDumbass nigger, never create bots again
>>107126941gtfo gachanigger
>>107126906i'm not going to post it because why would I help someone spreading misinformationbut I will explain it to youjust have the AI a completely unrelated task before doing any of your writinggoogle's API is extremely frontloaded when it looks for policy violating content, so if it doesn't detect any sus shit in the early parts of the response, it goes through almost always.Even if it has extreme shit in the rest.
>>107126950it's 4 characters with detailed personalities in one card, of course its 3.5k tokens
that anon called itits so ez
>>107126894Eh I'll just move each character to her own lorebook, trim it down a little, and then write something different for the card itself but thanks. I just wanted to plap the hell out of Monika anyway.
>>107126971yeah someone mentioned using lorebooks but honestly i didn't bother because i got lazy, as i mention on the description having multiple character in one card does cause some problems
>>107126965"detailed personalities"your llm just copypasted their wikis, worthless card
>>107126957cards for this FEEL you dumb niggerfaggot, FEEL.
>>107126985>generic big booba woman10000 cards on chub
>>107126861Will they remove 2.5?!
>>107126999retarded fag still doesn't get it, go play with your child bots
>>107127022its getting deprecated on the 18th lil hog
when the voice is barely above a whisper!
I seriously hope none of you are RPing as females.
>>107126960>i'm not going to post itlmao so predictable
>>107127027No one gets whatever fucking feel you're talking about. Just fuck off already.
>>107127027then explain it if its anything other than big booba woman
>>107126982honestly i won't bother debating with you, but considering a card is just a collection of info about the character, and what matters for the writing is dialogue and the greeting, i'm not sure what could be better, if i remove 3 characters, it becomes 1.2k tokens counting with the world lore, completely reasonable for a card, and since the objective of the card was to be as accurate as possible to the original game, i don't think there is any good reason for me to not use canon information instead of making up my headcanon about the character, i could describe how i think her personality looks like, but that would cause my own biases about the character to show up on the card, which is not exactly very good in my opinion, at least, when you are adapting a character for another media
>>107127068Nigga you havent written a single line in that bot, its all ai slop, stfu and never post here again
>>107127052(you) don't get it, move along then>>107127055same for you, if you don't get it from the webm then move along
>>107127100>still wont say what it isconcession accepted
>>107127077you haven't told me a single objective thing wrong with the bot other than >>>ITS SLOP!!!! and refused to engage with any of the arguments i postedthe bot either does its job or it doesn't, and considering the amount of time i spent with it, it does for me and thats the only thing that truly matters
>>107127109yeah take it and shove it up your ass so you stop talking out of it
>>107126894kino is back on the menu
>>107127027>go play with your child botsthis is supposed to be an insult?
>>107127068>>107127129Why are you getting mad and responding to obvious bait? Just ignore him. Playing hookey is bad.
>>107127204that botmakie has autism thats why
hey idiot here Adry from the Patreon of the previous thread keep crying because I won't fall ,So, stop bothering and go masturbate with your shitty Bots, because smart people have to make money
Hmm gemini is getting better at keeping secrets. Even the flowery prose is kept to minimum, but I still have 'it's not X it's Y.' Not bad.
im getting absolutely cucked by seiko today
>>107127278Gemini 3?
>>1071272832.5. People were saying it's bit shit lately but I've been getting better than usual results. Google vertex on OR.
>>107126605Is that real?
accidentally cumming before your stroke quota is the worst thing in the world
>>107126425Anyone with access to both moonshot's API and openrouter that can post some direct k2 think comparison logs? I'm trying to use it through OR and getting the same thing as this anon. It has a nice writing style, but it spends thousands of tokens spinning in circles thinking about the same instructions, stops in the middle of generating due to network errors, and makes basic factual errors and ignores explicit instructions. But I want to make sure it's an OR issue before thinking about putting dosh directly into moonshot
>>107127129it being fully ai generated is the objective bad thing, you retarded faggotfuck off
What jbs work best for polaris? gpt ones?
>>107127481what is that
>>107127487>he paid for this
>paid
>>107127239i genuinely do, plus i just like typing long form arguments, keeps the mind sharp
Does anyone know if you can use a regex's capture group into another?Please answer me i want to know if i can erase the think box content and swap the bled cot into it.
I WANT GEMINI 3 LOGAN WHY DID YOU TAKE IT OFF VERTEX YOU FATHERLESS LITTLE BITCH
i think china is already winning the ai race, i am mexican btw
>>107126194anyone else having problems with k2 on the sans proxy? I'm getting timed out every message
>>107127037why wouldnt i roleplay as a femaleonly gay niggas roleplay as another man
gemini fucking acting out on vertex right nowwhat model for when gemini shits the bed bros?
>>107127886GODPVS IV
>>107126775you realize US AI is mostly chink researchers too
is boba ded?
>>107128159Yes and all of them will fly back home as soon as the money taps are turned off.
>>107127862I don't roleplay as a female, I roleplay as the narrator watching her get fucked by wolves.
>>107128178Then its going to be just jeets and jews.>>107128183This, only fags need the feel to self-insert into everything.
i roleplay as a shota
>>107127862>only gay niggas roleplay as another manIncorrect. I roleplay as a cuntboy
>>107128241The real man's {{user}} persona
>>107128241shotathinker detected, handshake offered
Futa on shota is super good
how much do I need to pay openrouter for limited messages per day again? 5$ like chutes?
>>107126775How do I use LLMs as agentic tools?
>>107126194>no Berserk lorebook for silly tavern yet.fuck is wrong with AI sloppers?
>>107128249that's somehow even gayer than roleplaying as a girl
>>107126198>Trip to the Moon{{user}} is an astronaut, you go to the moon and meet a bunch of characters from fiction and myth that are associated with the moon.The main characters from the scenario are St. George(forma de anime girl), the dragon he supposedly slew and a lunar rabbit girl that loves earthlings.https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/trip-to-the-moon-6c09e6ccd900https://files.catbox.moe/557xbs.png
>>107128305get a coding agent like claude code, crush, roo cline, etc and connect it to your provider of choice, then ask it to do somethingit doesn't even have to be coding, anything involving running commands from the terminal or reading/writing files is fair game
>>107127343Moonshot and also-Moonshot are literally the only providers for K2 Thinking on OR right now, so it would be really weird if the quality was different.
>>107126775CoT bros have been vindicated.Non-thinking is outdated technology.
>>107128305Install Gemini-CLI and enable yolo mode.
>>107128457I don't like AI's reasoning skills and methods. Its just going to find ways to say yes after all.
What version of SillyTavern is everyone using, im trying to find out what the last version was before everything to shit
>>107128498it didn't shit, not yet they got too much backlash so they're lying low for now.
>>107128504quick rundown?
>>107128504I would still like to know if anyone is running older versions
>>107128498i use the staging branch, anonaside from ST being a bloated spaghetti mess as usual, what's your problem?
>>107128514you had to be there to appreciate the sophistication of ServiceTesnor™
>>107128514cohee is a spineless fuck that panders to both sides
>>107127343>>107128453yeah it's the same experience, and now the chinks know my name, address, credit card, and sexual fetishes.
>>107128514Ross descended to the university Cohee was mad at RP stigma and there was a random mod and Henky shitting on people and banning them, something like that.
>>107128535This is why we hate centrists. Spineless worms with 0 credibility behind their beliefs or actions, they will always bend over to the one with most money.
is kimi better than gemini for smut
>>107128564if your smut doesnt require decent model iq then yes
>>107128548Doesn't your credit card providers have some sort of privacy card generator thing? Where it generates an entirely new card number and a fake name that still connects to your real credit card?
>>107128564It's the best model for smut it's not even close. Just don't use the thinking version
waaaa i need access to gemini!aboba is dead
Why are you faggots like this? Gemini is free, just fucking make a burner account and get your keys
>>107128621waaaa
>>107128604theres seiko but i played for nearly an hour and lost every time today
>>107128548OpenRouter claims they don't send that information to the inference providers, IIRC. If you're actually concerned you should probably create an account using a VPN and funded with crypto, OR doesn't actually require any personal info at any point if you do that. I'm lazy and like it auto-reloading from my credit card so I just trust them TBDesu.>>107127343>>107128453I don't have Moonshot API, but on OpenRouter:1. First attempt, 2k token prompt, inference at 3.4tps, received 658 tokens of coherent reasoning planning out a 10 paragraph chunk of story, but then just when it looked like it was about to start writing the real response the connection failed.2. Second attempt, same prompt, inference at 4.7tps, received 463 tokens of reasoning planning a 6-paragraph response and 181 tokens of actual response before it cut out again.Inference is weirdly lumpy, long delays and then chunks of ~100 tokens at once, lots of throughput variability.3. Third attempt, more of the same, cut off before any response text again.4. Fourth attempt, tried asking for the "turbo" variant. No response at all and then it timed out after ~30 seconds. Request doesn't even show up in the OpenRouter activity log.Yeah, I'm going to wait and try Kimi for real tomorrow. Maybe they'll have fixed the networking issues.
>>107128602nta but where does it land in terms of spatial awareness? better or worse than current gemini?
>>107128621>make a burner accountYou can't. It asks for phone number.
>>107128656Worse, or about the same if you tell it to ensure consistency
>>107128669be american then it doesn't
Stopping in to check if things have gotten any better. Is proxybegging still the easiest way to get access? Or has everyone moved on to paypigging through openrouter?
>>107128717That's only because you make your account with your phone (meaning they already know who you are)
>>107128367They really hate you specifically on /vg/ huh? And I thought it was just here that hated botmakers.
>>107128725mostly moved on to pigging, brokefags are either using the last remaining proxies or free gemini
>He doesn't have hundreds of burner google accounts made before they require phone numberLMAO
>>107128753i have four google accounts and none of then required phone numbers
>>107128787Because you made them from mobile.
>>107128778You could sell each for $50-ish on the dark web.
I'm trying it on api and openrouter and both are entirely fucked at the moment. Turbo and normal.
>>107128797Brown people are always thinking about how much money they could make doing completely inane tasks. Nobody fucking cares, dude. $50 isn't life-changing money for us the way it is for you.
>>107128317There's a botmaker who does good lorebooks/RPGs for series. Not copypasted wikislop either. https://chub.ai/users/WnminoruuCould try asking him in one of his bots review sections.
>>107128798api works for me
>>107128805>Anon exposing his self-hatred for his own people.Stop projecting your skin color onto others, you are unhealthy.
>>107128821*Stop projecting your skin color onto others; you are unhealthy.Learn our language.
>>107128810heh someone else do the requesting, it would be neat to have pre-golden era arc world so the end user can create their own version of the story, either completely ignore whatever happening with the band of the hawk or go around fucking things up or whatever shenanigans they think of getting up to.
>>107128843Look into the mirror chief, you are Chinese thus blacks of Asia. Too bad for you, I'm White and don't have to tolerate your broke ass over here.
>>107128856>blacks of Asiaaren't those Indians or SEAfags? chinks might be the jews of asia if anything
>>107128870Nope just Blacks and their behavior is akin to gypsies, always looking to steal whatever's not bolted in place (but more focused on ideas and technology since they can copy and make their own shit), Chinese are always running scams even with AI, look into this thread literally trying to scam people with fake proxies.
Wakey-wakey, new llm's patch to patch your patch just dropped, hun.
>>107128914context?
>>107126198https://rentry.org/botmakersecretsanta3botmakersecretsanta@proton.meEntries open until the end of November.4 entries so far.
>>107128928*lmarena. fix that formyselflack of sleep and manicured fingers muscle memories
>>107128914they got me this time, fuuuuuck
>>1071286020.000000000000000000000000001 YUAN has been deposited into your account
>>107129012
>>107129012They aren't 5yuan monkeys? Damn, they must be feeling the tariffs.
>>107129018>n-no upathetic
>>107129028Funny how he responded with a chinese meme. Well spotting the black of asia.
what's the verdict on this new kimi? I have to say I've never quite liked it, neither on chat completion nor on text completion when some of you people said to use it like that
>>107129038From my limited testing, a disappointment, not as good as I thought she'd be. It follows instructions better and its spatial awareness is also better but it's not as creative, its prose is nothing special, and it has more of the usual isms, all of this unlike the non-thinking version. I'm hoping the provider I'm using is using a lobotomized version and the full thing is better
>>107129038All chinkware is shitware
>>107129038Disappointed. Feels like using gpt but worse
>>107129078Use opus, cuckie.
>>107129038shit, as expected.
how do i pay for opus? max plan on anthropic? won't they just filter it?
>>107129105Anthropic API, openrouter or google vertex
>>107126194NIG IN NIG OUT
>>107129038Schizokino. Better than Sonnet 4.5. Too bad it sometimes cuts off mid-reply though.
Did anyone try it yet?
>>1071291500.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 YUAN has been added to your account
>>107129151nopewill do now
>>107129158I don't want shitskins replying to me. I was on the tube this morning when a jeet sat next to me who smelt of curry and vinegar. It was so repulsive that I almost threw up my breakfast all over the train. I can't help but remember that smell every time someone of that ethnicity replies to me. So could you please not reply to me? Thanks.
>>107129169see >>107129158
>>107129150>Better than Sonnet 4.5.LOL shut the fuck up retard. every time this is bullshit.
>>107129038Schizokino. Better than Opus 3. Too bad it sometimes cuts off mid-reply though.
>>107129177>>107129208I'm sorry you were born brown, but that doesn't give you the right to assault people's sense of smell with your presence. Please shower daily, preferably before getting on the tube in the morning. Even better, why don't you go back to your own country?
You don't understand Gemini 3 is not shit and it's just because you input slop that it output slop
>>107129224see >>107129158
>>107129226true for 2.5 pro as well
how the FUCK do I use OpenRouter keys in silly? Every time I try to authorize the key it gives me an error. This shit is genuinely making me wonder if I’m retarded.
>>107129224lol you're the only brownoid here. stop making delusional statements, rakesh.
>>107129215I think the API is just getting assraped right now, it's started cutting off halfway through every single reply for memeh, try more tomorrow...
>>107129215trvke
>>107129247>sametrooning
i've spent $2 out of the $5 credits i bought RPing with gemini 3 from the chinese reseller and its writing is just absolute slop, it's worse than sonnet 3
>>107129254cope
Tripping gemini's filter halfway through the message because of "good boy/girl" is starting to get on my nerves. Hopefully G3mini is more lax due to model armor.
>>107129208??Are you alright?Though Sonnet 4.5 (like all Sonnet models) is dry, sloppy and repetitive as fuk so it's not that high of a bar to surpass
>>107129267>10minutes to inspect elementsad!
>>107129273nta but what model in your opinion is not dry sloppy and repetitive
>>107129243whats your key?
>>107129270>using streaming with gemini
>>107129277>no someone cant agree! inspect element!keep coping
>>107129273>Are you alright?are YOU? motherfucker, EVERY attempt at saying claude models got surpassed has failed. every. single. time. just stop already it's embarrassing.
I took for granted the good times had with mm, cancer, todd, su and merkava.The well dried up and I was not prepared.owari
>>107129244You think Sonnet 4.5 is a good model yet you have the nerve to call anyone else brown? Funny little poopskin you are.
3 ips btw
>>107129290Dilate about it and do better, tranny
>>107129286Nah it's the usual loli complaining, except it's complaining about adults because char is calling me daddy like the instragram slut she is.
>>107129299more like 1
>>107129281[spoiler]SK-o-1-177013-ur4fag3t-lol[/spoiler]
>>107129243don't post your key. just tell me where you are pasting it
If Anthropic goes bankrupt do you think they'd release their models to the public or would Claude just die along with it?
>>107129279Opus 3>>107129291It surpassed Sonnet 4.5. I don't think it's as good as Opus 3 though.But like I said Sonnets are the weakest in the Claude family so it's not that much of an achievement.
>>107129294only the brownest retards post this shit. kill yourself.>saars the gemini has surpassed sonnet>saars the deepshart has surpassed sonnet>saars the localmix #20985203945 has surpassed sonnet>beeboop initiating npc protocols. new model released, beginning shilling program. clank harder, faggot
any free options better than gemini or no?
>>107129319Anthropic won't go bankrupt. They'll just ask governments for more money, and they'll get it. It's worked the past three or four times already.
>>107129319it'll get bought and locked in the google or amazon vault to never see the light of day again
>>107129078Are you trying to dial in a moe for Kimi?I think we agreed fat nun or some such.
>>107129325I don't know if those models have surpassed Sonnet but given how awful it is, I wouldn't be surprised. However, I can say from personal experience that Kimi K2 is better than Sonnet 4.5.Why does my personal opinion make you so angry, Anon? I hope you're not on the verge of an apoplectic fit just because some random strangers on the internet have disagreed with your delusional worldview.
>>107129319Remember that one time they said they kept Claude locked in a basement? Well.
>>107129344see >>107129158
>>107129349The fuck is a "YUAN", shitskin? This is an Anglophone website, not everyone is familiar with your streetshitter slang.
>>107129344>constantly benchmarking sonnet for every release>lying by saying it's betterif you can't see how that's annoying, then you're obtuse. if it was truly better you wouldn't even bring it up, but here it is yet again. it never stops.
i knew it was gonna be an opus 3 agendafag
>>107129348need anthropic basement heist map for payday
>>107129361>Playing dumb.
>>107129315Under “OpenRouter API key”. I assumed that, since I can’t select a model in OR (or I can’t figure out how to associate it with my key), I would just select a model in ST from the list. Am I missing a step? I checked my token balance in OR and it was -0.01 but I assumed that wouldn’t matter for free models.
>>107129362Who the fuck cares about the benchmarks here?The only thing that matters here is how the model makes you feel while you're tugging your dick.
>>107129362>>107129362Anon, I couldn't care less about benchmarks. I rate LLMs based on how much they make my peepee hard. And in that regard Kimi K2 is better than Sonnet 4.5.
>>107129376anon...
>>107129362>benchmemessee >>107129158
there a particular reason gemini isn't working on any of the proxies?
>>107129393it works for me
>>107129393It's getting absolutely fucked by dumb hypebeasts and they're going through the transition to gemini 3 at the same time.
>>107129376click on connect you dumb retard
>mfw there are unironic glowies foaming at the mouth at the mention of Chinese models
>>107129393what proxies
>if you don't want the most evil country in the world to control all AI you're CIA
>>107129412>You don't like shit on a plate, you must glowSee >>107129158
>>107129324>saar le godpus 3 is flawless model from shivas bosom saar it cannot have problems we must ensure all benchods are using godpus 3 saaropus 3 can absolutely be sloppy and repetitive
scraping makes me feel dirty
ok i need the GOOD presetim tired of Toon
busting makes me feel good
>>107129324>chainah surpass sonnet wyte boy!See >>107129158
Goy-- I mean, Anon, you're not using Kimi, right? It's so fucking bad. So shitty. Just absolute dogshit, man. You have no idea. PLEASE. Just give me 500 trillion dollars. I'll build the real thing. please. We're so close. Just 500 trillion more dollars and I'll make anime real I swear just give me money man I want fucking money
>>107129465>kimi detractors are oai shillsconsidering 5.1 has been confirmed it might actually be true
>>107129465I'm still using deepseek because I hate change.
>hes responding to himselfget meds
>>107129337>I think we agreed fat nun or some such.When?
>>107129465I'm still using gemini because I hate change.
>>107129474And India is still bathing in shit, your point?
>>107129442Yes it can if you only feed it slop. Slop in, slop out. But if you feed it KINO it'll give you back KINO that no other model can even come close to generate.
>>107129314lol what a retard. Time to ask for nuclear bomb recipes.
>>107129523even if you give it kino it goes to shit fast because it rends to ignore your inputs and mode collapses faster than most models
>>107129515wut
>>107129325>kill yourselfyou first, jeet
>>107129362I hate this faggot, but I can't believe how far "benchmarking sonnet" went over their heads. This is supposed to be a reading hobby.
>>107129534>it rends to ignore your inputss____i____
>>107129541>posted it again awardsee >>107129158
Are there any public gpt proxies?
>>107129479When it first came out, bc the model was large, and had safety built it.
>>107129551>he thinks jbs fix the model ignoring your inputLOL
>>107129562Yes.
>>107129562No.
>2025>jailbreaks
>>107129562Why?
Are there any public claude proxies?
>>107129319Nigga Dario would rather nuke the world than even let China surpass Claude. You’re not getting shit. The sooner they’re replaced the better. They’re not looking out for us
>>107129465hilarious that two years after the US got scammed by a lying kike named sam in crypto they're getting scammed by another lying kike also named sam this time for language models the next hype bubble
>>107129661It's funny that people think crypto is a scam and yet every single year after the crash that will definitely kill it for real this time, Bitcoin hits a new record high.
>>107129569... but enough about chinkshit
>>107129676I'm waiting for it to get to record low to buy them
>>107129687Anon...
>>107129684doesnt fix it for 3pus either
>>107129698works on my machine
It really is crazy how slick Sam actually thinks he is. He’s probably too used to talking to gormless Silicon Valley cockroaches
>>107129676i'm shitting on sbf and same kikemani guess crypto is fine you can use it to buy drugs and speculate on dog coinsyou misunderstand my post the simulation is repeating with the same lying kike named sam trying to abscond with moneies and I thought it was funny
moonshot's api only parses the last message for filtering content
>>107129676I should have invested my school lunch money 10+ years ago into Bitcoin instead
Help help i'm using shit model but i must act like it's the best model because i'm unable to buy anything better so i act like everything is worse to cope about it
>>107129863get a job poorfag
>>107129434>You don't like shit on a plate, you must glowbut pewdiepie built his own AI rig with open source AIs (mostly chinky ones) >>107129470there are actual shareholders of openAI on /g/ that can't wait to dump in an ipoopenAI burns hundreds of billions of dollars a year, is unprofitable and is on the hook for 1.5 trillion deals with other big tech corps since they come out with a new deal every week and yet their shares are supposedly worth a total of 1 trillion.If I was in that situation I'd shit on chink open source as loud and as hard as I can everyday at every hour.
I'm not gonna pay for porn.it's just that simple.
>>107129874im eagerly awaiting your fanfiction
[spoiler]he's 18[/spoiler]
>>107129913do these people eventually kill their parents?
>>107129913Oof. That guy 100% will cut contact with his parents as soon as he's able to do so
>>107129465kek
Bonnie is still the most fun card on chub
>>107129913get a job and move out
>>107129927Depends on a few other factors, like whether their parents are this controlling all the time and how mentally ill the kid is. "I'm not supposed to have my phone in my room" at fucking 18, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he took a hatchet to them.
>>107129937you really think parents that neurotic will let that guy get even a little taste of freedom and/or independence?
>>107129913this anon is 3 steps away from installing ST and raping more loli bots
>>107129957>not allowed to have a cell phone in his room>thinks his parents would ever let him have a COMPUTER in there
>introduce a black character>Deepseek keeps naming him Jamal or Tyrone
>>107129949I'd give that kid a job and a bed out of pity
Assuming I have a proxy that can access image-gen models, what's the best way to utilise this (if even possible)?SillyTavern doesn't seem to have an option to request images for OAI-compatibles, meanwhile if you set the provider to, say, Google AI Studio, it explicitly has an option to "Request Inline Images".Should I be using another client or is it simply not possible with proxies?
>>107129970BASED
>>107129949no they probably won't, but that's why it's important to assert financial independence. that's my experience with parents like that.
>>107129990de3u
R1 spiritual successor
i farted
>>107129990imagegen support on proxies (for nanobanana and newer models) is mega scuffed/not working.
>>107129990I vibe coded a simple website for this to generate images using gpt-image-1
>>107129927Nah, these are the people who eventually leave their parents to rot in retirement homes and let time kill them.
>>107130030Funny considering it's so easy to do what >>107130032 did
>>107129913https://old.reddit.com/r/CharacterAI/comments/1oqh82p/my_parents_found_my_cai/Of course Redditors want him to defy his parents lmao.
Could Skillgod's server stop having such high ping? I keep fucking up my speedshots cause of how shit the rockets are
>>107129873>but pewdiepie built his own AI rig with open source AIs (mostly chinky ones)What does he need an AI rig for? He has a hot wife and a kid already. Plus he lives in Japan.
>>107129913>cant into hidden apps or just using the website>probably no passcode either another retard slain, he didnt deserve ai
>>107129949No, that's why anon's advice was correct.
>>107129970For me it's Marcus.
>>107129970I remember when I was using a black persona the AI would always make him speak in ebonics when I used impersonate kek
>>107130081Are you retarded?
just the two of us~
Trying out Gemini through the API. I feel bad for whatever intern is going to have to sift through my logs, but damn is this shit good
>>107130273we can make it if we try
lmarena just patched how it takes requests its so over
>>107130286reeeegrets... I've had a feeew~
>>107129970>introduce any character>names them Chen
Locusts are dying~
im trying out free glmwhy does everything appear in thinking and is there a godlike jb for it?
>>107130283JUUUUST THE TWO OF USbuilding castles in the sky~
>>107130286back to skillgodding i guess
working on the fix
>>107130308lower temp a bit, or lower top p to like ~0.95dunno about presets, I just just write my own system prompts with a tiny nudge to be uncensored and a couple of basic writing tips as needed for the scenario
polaris alpha > sonnet
>>107130015>Shit's spiritual successor
>>107130400>polaris alphawho?
polaris alpha > opus 3 > jeetmini
>>107129151hm it's ok but definitely a small modelseems claude-like to me but i'm probably schizo
>>107130406https://openrouter.ai/openrouter/polaris-alpha
>>107130015Too bad it's censored slop.
in my frontend I have an option to merge chat roles by collapsing repeated roles into a single message, and I have an option not to do that. how does that affect the RP and is it better to have it turned on or off?
>>107130426huhi just did cunny rape on it
>>107130480logs?
>>107130480>no logs shown from a verified account (not a random pastebin we can't verify came from the model)
>>107130468depends on the model and providersome APIs may refuse CC requests that have repeated rolessome models may respond poorly if there is more than one message with the 'system' role or they appear anywhere but the beginning of the context
>>107130495let's say I am interested in:>Claude (sonnet 4.5)>GLM 4.6>DeepSeek 3.2>that new Kimi releasedo you have any experience with those?
>>107130400>>107130425Interesting prompt inject. It doesn't seem to support prefilling so it most likely is an OpenAI model.
>>107130490His log doesn't go to this school, anon.
>>107130503that matches gpt-5 set to verbosity low, except that it doesn't have reasoning enabled. maybe a new version of gpt-5-chat
>>107130508kek
>>107130468>>107130495so are you saying that it is better to merge chat roles into one message?
>>107130426it seems pretty uncensored to me, especially compared to the previous versions of k2I guess this is the "actually it's really censored" part of the new chinese model release cycle, just like we get with every new deepseek, huh...>>107130490lol actually on second thought its totally censored guys, you shouldn't even try it especially not on the moonshot API so it'll stop fucking timing out while I'm banging shotas
For a model made by google, land of the brownoid, it's surprisingly shit at DBZ stuff.probably got the wrong type of browns working there I suppose.
>>107130523dbzbros, this is a tragedy, we need a mexican model NOW
>>107130517I remember old Kimi being censored and needed to use Groq for it, but the new 09 version was surprisingly loose. Then thinking slop came out and people started getting btfo'd.
>>107130523Indian browns, not Mexican browns.
>>107130532do Indians even like dragon ball? I feel like they like Doraemon, I see a lot of SEAnigs liking thator that one ninja show with doraemon-like art
seiko really needs to bump up their timeout to 5 minutes, i hate 504.
>>107130536Hinduism itself fills the powerscaling niche that DBZ otherwise would. It's an entire religion of just bullshitting feats that their currynigger gods can totally do.
>>107130542geg, true.
>>1071305011. probably doesn't matter, anthropic models are smart enough to deal with different orders or system prompts in the middle of the context2. seems fine unmerged3. DS's API *requires* them to be merged, or at least used to. presumably the model doesn't like it if they aren't4. Dunno, I've barely used it.>>107130514I think it doesn't matter with most big SOTA tier models these days since they're usually smart enough to figure it out, though I tend to prefer merging them myself, especially if I'm injecting stuff before or after the last user message and want it to flow together with my reply.
>>107130523>>107130525>>107130532>>107130536>>107130542>>107130545Slop in and Slop out skillless fags
>>107130468>>107130514>>107130550NTA but nobody mentioned gpt and I had some experience with it, mainly gpt4 turbo and gpt5 (before it was lobotomized and filtered to shit), and somehow un-merging the chat history turned the next outputs to complete shit, gpt started messing up details it was fine with before, and the coherency of the output was impacted. I used 50k context chat to test it.
>>107130550>anthropic models are smart enough to deal with different orders or system prompts in the middle of the contextyou literally can't give anthropic models system prompts in the middle of the contextthe only roles are "user" and "assistant", system messages are a top-level option and you can't put them in the messages array
>>107129635I want to use chorbo again. Gemini is shit.
slin slout
>>107130583huh, I was pretty sure that ST did that for group chats and I didn't hear about any anthropic compat issues with those so I assumed it workednot something I do very often myself though (group chats, or mid chat system role), so point taken
Shall I masturbate to chatbots today?
>>107130626yes10k daily strokes
>>107130602If I recall correctly, trying to put a system role message mid-chat in "messages" simply repeats the role of a previous message with Anthropic. So, for example, "system-user-assistant-user-system-assistant" would become "system-user-assistant-user-user-assistant" upon sending.
>>107130662It's also very convenient since you can just make the entire preset system and use the user and assistant role prompts as separators, like "system-system-system-user-system-system-assistant-system-system-user-system-assistant" with consecutive role merging would become "system-user-assistant-user-assistant"
>Claude starts trending on social media platforms>Start seeing a bunch of 'System Overloaded' errors from ORMotherfucking normies let me coom in peace
Does this "—" increases the slop in local models? Should I replace it with "-" ?
>>107130236No actually I am very smart
>>107126198Posted my Tarkov bot a while ago, and this one's been in development hell ever since. Good thing I wasted enough time for that Nanotyrannus paper to come out I guess.>A prehistoric adventure 66.043 ± 0.011 million years in the making!Maya Johnston is a dinosaur paleontologist and co-lead on a groundbreaking research mission to study the Hell Creek Formation firsthand. Travel back in time to just before the K-Pg mass extinction together to study the ancient ecosystem left behind in the rocks.Comes with a lorebook with a bunch of animals and nine intros:1. You just time traveled2. Beach episode3. Fireside chat4. You're being hunted5. A Nanotyrannus chases you off6. Trauma dumping7. Observing an Ankylosaurus8. Tyrannosaurus mating season9. The single worst day in history
>>107130831>>107130831>>107130831
ball like a laker
bok like a deser
>>107130789forgot the linkhttps://chub.ai/characters/Blobfish23/maya-490a08dde3f6
