What was PC building like in 2009?
>>107127716Trade GPU supports to hard drive cables.
>>107127716You had to wear wristbands and watch out for parts of the motherboard that might kill you.
>>107127716New game outNew shader model yep it won't even run on your old gpu, AT ALL time to buy a new one
>>107127716debate about quad cores was heated. e8400 vs q6600. people were worried the quad cores wouldn't perform since nothing was optimized for it.turns out the q6600 was the better choice. I went with the e8400 and have forever been scared to get too few cores.
>>107127716the parts had a lot more soul
way cheaper and less rgb
>>107127716was still stuck on low budget 2003 hardware at that time
every fucking case was a nightmare to insert shit into with raw aluminum to cut yourself on at every turn. shit didnt get better until everyone started copying the cm690. ide cables were a fuckfight and were never long enough to use the multiple plugs on them so you ended up with twice as much shit flapping in the case as you needed. hard drives were fucking small and far too expensive. even during the hdd crisis in 2016 the $/gb ratio was still lower than the 00s. w7 struggled fucking HARD to obtain drivers itself. if you didnt keep your mobo disks you were not getting off the ground. wifi was in shambles and if you didnt keep those disks you best find a hardwire point
Using DVDs and Sata hard drives.
I remember having to drive with me pops to my pedo uncle so he could install XP with all the fucking drivers whenever I fucked up the installation by downloading cracked games.
>>107127716As surreal as it was in 2014
>>107127716>You need to be over 18 years old to use this site.
>>107127716the case you were building could literally slash your wrists open if you werent careful. aside from some different cables and no rgb most things were pretty similar
>>107127716It was just as annoying as it is today. Nothing changed except model numbers.
>>107127716It was pretty cool. You could just go to Microcenter or newegg literally any time and buy a top of the line GPU without waiting in line or being met with empty inventory.
>>107128485or spending thousands of dollars. god i miss my 1080
>>107127716the world was fun and hope existed
>>107127873>ATi Rubyback when you could have a sexy female mascot designed to be pure eye candy because you didn't have to worry about a fat blue haired lesbian on Twitter rallying her sheboon army
>>107128069>every fucking case was a nightmare to insert shit into with raw aluminum to cut yourself on at every turnshould've held on to an ATX case from late 90s/early 00smy enlight case from that time had no such problems, changed it only because i needed more hard drive bays
>>107127716You maxed out your credit card sourcing top of the line parts and still couldn't run Crysis on max.
>>107128409DDR3 was stupid cheap in 2014, zero reason not to go with 8
>>107128588>You maxed out your credit card sourcing top of the line parts and still couldn't run Crysis on maxCrysis at least looked good unlike modern UE5 trainwrecks like the new borderlands or outer worlds 2
>>107128690Of course it looked good, it took the average gamer like 10 years to run it on the highest settings. AAA Games now are made with the intention of some guy in south america running a toaster being able to run it so they get a few extra bucks.
>>107128740Can confirm modern games run on my old r9 280
>>107127716hard, because there was limited help. Forums were slow.
>>1071287934chan existed in 2009
>>107128793no one who knew you could build a PC in 2009 was dumb enough to think it was hard, good job outing yourself zoomie
Comfy because you either got to install XP or 7 when you were done. AMDjeets weren't nearly as indian so they weren't too annoying to deal with. More GPUs came with free games too, it was cool. It was harder but it was worth it, it was only people that wanted to do it, not just faggots that got told to build one because their Xbox is gay.
>>107128588This.I dont think zoomers will ever truly realise just how poorly optimised Crysis was at the time of it's release.Even in 2012, 5 years after the original release date. A top of the line "Money is no object" rig was BARELY able to truly defeat that game (very high settings w/ 60FPS at 1080p).Back in highschool, me and a buddy of mine agreed that cryengine 2 was just a garbage engine & not the future of FPS games. Ironically, how people view UE5 today is exactly how we viewed Cryengine 2 back in 2009
>>107128926We have borderlands 4 today as a prime example of bad optimization. Runs like 8x worse than half life alyx despite looking uglier
>>107128926Crysis at least looked very good for the time and held up years after it came out even if it ran like shit. We now have vastly more powerful computers yet games look like this or borderlands 4 yet run as badly as crysis did when it first came out
>>107127716It was easy, 2002 was even easier now you require a guide
>>107127716About the same as now, PC building was only weird when you had jumper blocks.That was also around the time you got nothing but PCI slots and there was no more meme slots appearing on boards.
>>107127716>What was PC building like in 2009?Honestly it wasn't that different from now.Biggest differences is probably switch from sata hdd to m.2 nvme, no need for disc drives, higher psu demands because of power hungry gpus, increased chipset cooling. And of course lower prices, especially for gpus.I didn't get a ssd until the second generation, but that was probably the biggest increase in performance the past 15 years. Like you could probably still use a i5 2500k today without issues. CPU performance has only increased by like 20 percent the past five years. GPUs aren't much better. Pretty different from back when performance doubled every 18 months back in the 90s/early 00s.
>>107129042Vs a game that came out in 2009 and ran well enough on my dogshit PC with a compaq motherboard from the trash, allendale pentium and 5450.
>>107127716My first ever rig was a i7 920 & GTX470 while still in high school. I felt like a God. Console peasants would venture over to play metro 2033 at glorious 1200p 16:10. I also had a OCZ 60GB SSD (Would've been first or second generation). That shit was expensive, over £3 per GB.
>>107129042And it's not just games either, so many programs and websites are much slower and resource hungrier than they have any need to be and browsing the internet feels only moderately slower and somehow even buggier than it did on 768k DSL in 2009.
>>107129032>>107129042Yeah, but you also have games like Black Myth Wukong that use the exact same engine & have absurdly good visuals.Borderlands is a good example of how some modern developers well and truly dont know how to program. Some are effectively "end users" that want the engine to hold their hand and "just figure out" what they're trying to do. In the 2000s and 2010s, there were several well known optimization tricks that could offload TONS of un-needed processing from the CPU and GPU without sacrificing visual quality.A good example is how RAGE, Half-Life 2 and Mirror's Edge all used baked in lighting for large portions of each level.Things like the sun wouldn't move for the duration of a level, so all shadows and most lighting effects were pre-processed and saved directly onto map textures (Allowing for more resources to be available for smaller scale use of realtime lighting)
>>107127858dang, time machine...I was Q6600 MasterRace
>fry's combo deals>local computer shops>newegg was better>no amazon scamazon fake parts>no "influencers" driving up prices
>>107128409/g/ has always been poor brownworlders holy shit
>>107127716Tiger DirectNeweggDealing with shit RMA processes.Cases looking cool on the outside but >>107128069 all being the same sharp aluminum inside.
>>107129042>>107129178Commodification of games by big slop shipping companies means that we've lost a lot of technique and skill in the games industry. Its why modern games are coming out that look worse than games released a decade ago.Coincidentally, the same thing caused CGI in modern movies to be worse than that of a decade ago. Because before, it was more skilled CGI houses, but the demand for more and more CGI caused CGI mills to be made to shit out effects for movies at breakneck speeds.Its not that UE5 is a bad engine, its that its very easy for low skill devs to still produce a finished product with while using default settings and zero regard for good visuals.
>>107127716Pretty much the same as it is now except the parts were cheaper, though you may have still had to deal with IDE cables if you had an older DVD drive. 2010 was the year I went SATA only.
>>107129642that is Peak late 2000s Antec. chef's kiss
>>107129042I just reread this post and I disown it, idk why I repeated myself so much
>>107128926>I dont think zoomers will ever truly realise just how poorly optimised Crysis was at the time of it's release.Absolutely correct. I made this realization in 2016 when my PC could run Far Cry 2 maxed out but Crysis maxed out would shit the bed on the same machine even though both games have the same level of visual detail overall. Made me realize that Dunia was a correctly built game engine and that CryTek was unoptomized trash.Crysis 2 and three did run much better though.
>>107128409>ram speed doesn't matter Retarded as ever eh
>>107127716In 2009 I picked a prebuilt with a dual core and 512MB vram. 4GB ddr2, one of the sticks died soon and I was down to 2GB single channel.
>>107128793>because there was limited help??? Everything was pretty much plug and play, and if it wasn't you got a disc. tf are you talking about?The only thing you had to watch out for was the large tower coolers which didn't fit in most cases.>>107128588>>107128690>>107128926>>107129042Barely anyone actually played Crysis, it's a tech demo with a game attached to it. It's extremely fucking boring and FEAR mogs it as a tactical shooter.It's popularity was astroturfed so hard that PC Gamer gave it 2007 GOTY over Bioshock.
>>107127716>>107127858>Buy phenom II tricore processor for cheap>Use sketchy software you downloaded off limewire to unlock the 4th core because they didn't physically laser them out and all you had to do was tweak the firmware a bit>You now have a quad core processor>Spend 3 days tweaking voltages to get the overclocks stable>It now outperforms the stock boxed quad core in all fronts>YFWModern stuff is 'better' in that it mostly just works, and overclocking is a lot less useful because practically everything automagically boosts itself these days. At the same time, there's something magical about buying a piece of hardware and tuning it. Teenagers building pcs these days don't get to experience that, and they don't get to learn how to unfuck a serious problem of their own creation. I wound up swapping eproms with a friend that had the same motherboard so that I could uncorrupt my bios. These days you just stick a USB drive in the green port on the back and push the magic flashback button and everything goes back to normal.I can't count how many zoomers I've worked with that can't do the most basic of troubleshooting, and I honestly believe that not being forced to fix something asinine a few times as children is the problem.
>>107130132It was a bios setting not a sketchy software you download
>>107127716You had to constantly get new GPUs if you wanted to play the newest games, but they also didn't cost an arm and a leg because no bitcoin or AI nonsense.
>>107130132continued>>107128069>wifiI remember having to slip usb drivers into custom isos so that you could actually use a laptop. When nvme came out a few years later, there were all kinds of nightmares getting systems to boot off of those too, but back in 2009 it was USB and wifi. Most laptops still had RJ45 ports so it wasn't a total loss if you couldn't immediately hop on wifi, but a lot of them had touchpads with custom drivers, so you had to slip in USB drivers to use a mouse, or navigate purely by keyboard. I haven't had to do that in a solid decade at this point.>casesModern cases are astronomically better ergonomically and in terms of airflow.Back then the thinking was that if you didn't bleed on the PC, it wouldn't work right. Never had a system that didn't boot the first time around after it got blood in it.>>107128926>>107129977Crysis was hardcore single thread limited, and it didn't handle higher resolutions well. I played a lot of it on an i3 with a GTX 460, and I never had issues with the CPU because it was so single thread bound, and the top of the i3 stack actually beat the i5s for single threaded performance. Sure, I was running it at sub 30 a lot of the time, but the GPU was the bigger issue there, and it was completely playable.Funnily enough, I actually still have that 460 sitting on a shelf as my "in case of new system fuckery bring out ol' trusty toasty". I used it 3 weeks ago when diagnosing a system that seemingly had a bad igpu, but it was actually a retarded default setting in the bios.
>>107130149Some bioses (specifically those on later board revisions) didn't allow you to do that, so you had to dump it and mod the functionality back in. I truthfully cannot remember all of the details because it's been 16 or 17 years, but my system did not support that out of the box, and I was able to mod it in.Maybe I'm mixing my stories up, but I don't think so.
>>107129276why do you think we have so many android posts anon?
