Is there even a good distro? I think Linux is not for me...>ArchIt sucks without the AUR and AUR is just user scripts + DDoS & Malware.>DebianOudated packages, server os, rip gayming performance (mesa/kernel)>openSUSEnot as many packages + company behind it>UbuntuFork + company behind it + snaps>Fedoracompany behind it, btrfs without snapper???>Gentoodon't want to compile shit + weird setup + skill issue>Nixtoo unorthodox>What about meme distro x and placebo os y?No, I don't want fucking forks and 1 man projects. I already consider Gentoo and Nix niche and yes I know there is asahi, alpine, void etc. but I'm talking about regular mainstream Gnu/Linux distros.
>>107136443>company behind itokay, and? its not like there is a non-linux that doesnt have a company + spyware
The best distro is the distro that you can handle the best without much of a hassleI have an nvidia GPU and that already narrows down my choices quite a bit because those drivers need to be more than just up to date to even work properly and installing them is usually a pain in the dick in a good number of distros already.
>>107136502doch... BSD
>>107136443Decide what's important to you and what isn't. Pick accordingly. You only have problems if you want a distro that fulfills every contradictory whim of yours simultaneously.
>>107136530But most mainstream distros offer novidya support, right? Or are you on Bazzite, Nobara, Cachy or Pop?
>>107136443>AUR is just user scripts + DDoS & Malware.Not really but ok>Oudated packagesSounds like you want arch then but okAnyway just use Mint. Your so normie you shouldn't even use Windows, use Mint.
>>107136595Let me guess, cachyos(placebo) tranny?
>>107136580Technically yes, but the process isn't the sameThere is nothing openSUSE TW does for me that warrants the nvidia driver install process on that for instance, and I remember it being a pain in the ass. I don't need a distro that makes it all harder with no benefit.
>company behind itOk nigger go install TempleOS then nobody else cares about that. If there was no companies behind any distros then there wouldn't be any progress and the state of Linux would be even shittier than it is. Companies being behind it is the whole reason businesses will use Linux professionally.OP is a retarded faggot.
>>107136604No. I don't game I waste my life with music and distro hopping
I'm trying the easiest shit possible according to other folk.>Linux Mint.So far I managed to make Unreal Tournament 2004 work with linux patch from github but I can't file the config files to change resolution and I can't take the focus out of the window like Alt+Tab,super+F1 or Super+d won't work.I'm not asking for help(I'm troubleshooting it with chatgpt) its just so you know in what bracket of loonix I am.I had a linux enconter for some decades back but it was early ubuntu versions now its almost a proper computer system for the everyday person Its got enough restrictions so I don't accidentally fuck up my system and have to resort to backups so yay for the ipad linux kids.
While you virgins are worrying about choice of Linux distribution, people are making things happen on Windows 10. Stop the gay distro hopping and get to work
>>107136959>people are making things happen on Windows 10.things that shouldn't happen at all in the first place? That's most of what Corporate America does these days
>>107136983Corporate America makes things, indie game devs make things, application devs make things - distro hoppers don't make anything because of their autistic decision paralysis around OS choice
>>107136997that's what I'm sayingmost things that are being made shouldn't be
>>107137039Two words: Retro Hippedadadadadadada dada dad
>>107136997>autistic decision paralysis around OS choiceHey thats me
>>107137039Chud, the world moves fast whether you want it to or not. You have a lot to learn. Grind hard
>>107136739Is this abandonware? Or is this game in any store? If it's in a store (GOG/Epic) Just install it via Heroic Games Launcher, if it's a game without a launcher, just use Faugus Launcher. But I just saw a Flatpak called "Unreal Tournament 2004 Launcher" you could try that.
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>>107137108>AbandonwarePretty much, I got it from the internet archive a while ago and now I've checked back and they nuked the entry, it was the whole game patched and also linux ready, I did try that flatpak and the same issue persists, I can't find the config file for the linux launcher, I know its not ut2004.ini or ut2004x64.ini cause even if I change the settings it doesn't get saved there.I'm starting to suspect the actual config file might not even a *.ini
>>107136443It's not as hard as you make it sound.Do you NEED new packages?>Arch or TumbleweedDo you not actually need that if we're being honest?>DebianDo you have some irrational hatred towards all of the above and need something else?>Fedora
>>107137246I want to help you nigger, but I don't want to download that game :/ maby you are running it on system wine and the config is somewhere in the windows prefix.
>>107136443>Oudated packages, server os, rip gayming performance (mesa/kernel)lel imagine wasting your life on modern gaymers, fuck off back to winblows, winkiddie.
>Install debian 13>Takes forever to install for some reason>KDE>Log in>Literally fuckin windows 2.0>Bloatware>"hehe btw u wana turn off us spying on you? uwu *anime lizard mascot pops up on my screen*>Load the shitty web browser and instantly get hit with some weeb anime avatarWhat the ACTUAL fuck is this shit?Holy shit what a waste of time fuck you guys
>>>/g/fgltwhy make a new thread for your retarded takes
alpine is the ONLY sane choicealpine won bigly
>>107137295Thanks anyway, But I don't even run wine, this is the actual game running from the sourceport.the big victory is at least I can exit focus and swap programs instead of shutting it down to multitask anything.
>>107137321Sorry, I just wanted to cater to a very specific crowd. But I can join the other gay threads, thanks for the invite.
>>107137317>What the ACTUAL fuck is this shit?No Debian hate please, how can you hate on a free as in free beer and as in freedom operating system? I think you are the retarded one. Also, learn how to install minimal debian. smfh
>>107137340Not him but the gaymen focus nowadays is on Wine and translating DirectX to Vulkan. Windows games might run better than native Linux games because the native Linux version might be half-assed and Linux is great at running Windows games now. Windows games actually run so fast they might run faster than on real Windows. Lutris and Bottles help running Wine outside of Steam.
>>107137416Yep, just get your gayme.exe and put it into faugus launcher
>>107137317>kde lol lmao even
>>107137416Ohhh so that's why they were thinink i was using vulkan instead of OpenGL...Appreciate the wisdom, I guess the next I'll try skyrim with mods in Bottles, apparently on google people can make it work in pop OS! and since my humble little knowledge this one is the same cause of the "apt" commands from Debian I'll reckon it must work.off to greener pastures.I had in mind installing comfyUI and benchmark it against some screenshots I had in this pc when I was running w11 on it but guess It can wait.
>>107136616By the way it's literally a single command now
>>107136443If you're not intelligent enough to figure out what distro you want to use then just install Kubuntu 24 LTS until you figure it out because it feels like a debloated windows desktop environment
>>107136443Bro, just use Ubuntu or Fedora. Use it for a while and then jump to Arch. Arch is the end game of Linux. If you don't like it once you are deep into Linux then nothing will change your mind and should just buy a Mac.
Tumbleweed. It's like Arch if it was retard proof.
The best distro is the one you are comfortable using every day.
>>107136443Next time I set up a linux box I'll use Void or Guix.
as a new user, all you should care about is which DE you like the look and feel of the mostas a long time user, all you should care about distro-wise is the package management, so things like release cycle, package availability, etc. everything else is just defaults you can change
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>>107136443>It sucks without the AUR and AUR is just user scripts + DDoS & Malware.Schizo you dont worry about that when you download random shit from github right? Just dont install random unknown packages and you will be fine, the same thing on Windows, use your brain man.
>>107136443Fedora works well. I recommend it.next on my list is going to have to be Debian. It's a solid workhorse of a distro and I may give it another shot. That's it really.
>>107136443>Oudated packages, server os, rip gayming performance (mesa/kernel)forgot to switch to sid? many such cases
>>107140708sid is literally much more buggy than arch tho
reposting from /fltg/I've seen arch linux booting in under a minute on 15 years old hardware, i want to give it a try on my gaming rigproblems:>nvidia GPUquestions:>will i face performance issues?>should i just go with steamOS?
>>107140976>nvidia GPUdon't worry>will i face performance issues?yes, nvidia still takes a small hit>should i just go with steamOS?no, look into bazzite.
>>107137317>What the ACTUAL fuck is this shit?debian on the desktop
>>107139357KDE Linux will be the better replacement for Kubuntu
>>107141090>bazziteis not arch-based
>>107140976Here's what you have to keep in mind with nvidia:Drivers are installed separately, and there's open and proprietary drivers. Nowadays there's basically no difference except the open ones require something called GSP enabled which may or may not cause issues with performance, but I think it's pretty much a requirement now with newer 5000 series GPUs to even work properly.Nvidia has a considerable performance hit (which they're trying to tackle and seemingly have found how to fix) when trying to play DX12 titles.There's some issues not present on AMD with display technology and Wayland. For instance, if you want HDR, you're stuck on Wayland, there's nothing you can do on X11. Wayland "is the future" but it's not as stable on nvidia hardware. You may face graphical artifacts on desktop, not being able to use adaptive sync (on a monitor without a gsync module) on high refresh rates with DSC without coming across annoyances, fractional scaling might give you issues as well. The more basic your setup is the better essentially.Bazzite is the easiest way to get into it without getting too technical. CachyOS is a little bit more "open" and you can do a bunch of tweaks there to get better performance, but it requires more maintenance. In both systems you can essentially just roll back if you install something you don't like or something breaks which shouldn't be often the case.SteamOS is not recommended because nvidia support is poor. The SteamOS big picture mode you can see on handhelds doesn't work all that well with nvidia. They are working on it though.
>>107140976Try to stick to DX11 and Vulkan if the game offers it. Those are not affected by the Nvidia performance "bug".
>>107136959based
ubuntu, fedora, tumbleweed, and arch
>>107136443Just use mint bro
>>107141090>bazziteWhy not just Fedora Kinoite and install whatever you actually need yourself?
>>107141638I'm also lost on the "too technical stuff" I wonder what does bazzite do on its own that we can't do in the rest of distros, I reckon it must be the way of setting up to play the games on the GPU.I don't think that be harder to do on any other debian based distro by asking chatGPT.
>>107141664Any distro derivative just has different defaults. Default packages, default configs, some tweaks here and there. There's no reason to dismiss them if you want those defaults.In this case Bazzite uses a patched kernel with tweaks that might help somewhat with performance on games and a bunch of packages to make the process of just using steam and installing games more straightforward, that's about it. It is specially designed to make the process of installing basically what SteamOS is on handhelds that didn't support it (because now they most likely do) a bit easier.In the same way that there's nothing you can't really do to transform Kinoite into Bazzite (it would involve getting the same packages, finding the same tweaked kernel, maybe adding a few user repositories), what people seem to ignore is: there's nothing you can't really do to transform Bazzite into Kinoite.Same with Arch into CachyOS <-> CachyOS into Arch. It's not a sin to install a derivative to save time. It's not irreversible. The biggest problem you'll face is you can't just head to certain forums and demand support for something different than what they offer support for. If you can follow a wiki and multiple threads, you can get there. But to waste time for the sole purpose of proving how bad it is to use a derivative is a fool's errand. We've all heard this thing before: Every distro can be turned into another distro. Yes we can use distrobox and use fucking flatpaks and patch kernels on our own. It just takes a lot more time and you may end up in the same exact fucking place anyways.
>>107141917Oh, cool I guess my posts are a bit too summer I stumbled yet again on another old trope I knew nothing about.I'll get back to lurking instead of reposting but thanks for clearing that out, I didn't fathom such perspective I can see where I'm wrong now.So far I'm happy with what little I can achieve with it, I kinda wish I had the money for a home server but I'll stay contempt with what I can do in this machine already.
>>107136443>choice = hellNo shit. That's why Apple products will always be objectively the best.
>>107136443LinuxFromScratch and make your own distro. Or use PopOS
>>107137317just rm -rf / and reinstall with xfce.
>>107136443Ignore spins. Pick desktop environment and then pick the systems which focus primarily on that. Not spins, but the main thing. So Cinammon you would pick Mint. KDE pick Neon.Don't touch Pop OS duh. If it's niche it probably sucks. Forget anything made by like 3 nerds in a basement because they just can't maintain it to a professional level.
Your choices are Ubuntu, Debian, Neon, Red Hat, Mint. I think. If you want GNOME it's most things, if you want KDE you pick Neon, and if you like Cinammon you would pick Mint.These are actually quality pieces of software. If you have to be special and download Nix or Arch or whatever you just get what you get... Debian is probably the highest quality system that isn't corporate if that's a thing for you, because thank God, Ubuntu which is corporate relies on it, so actual professional level dev teams have a vested interest in keeping it professional grade.
>>107136443>company behind itsome day you'll grow up and get a job, then you'll realize this is a good thing.
>>107143037>some day you'll grow up and get a job, then you'll realize this is a good thing.Hopefully, honestly I'm just looking for negative things at this point. whats your favorite company distro, btw?
>>107136443>packages packages packagesIt's 2025, any distro can use any package with distrobox.
