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RTFM culture needs to be brought back. spoonfeeding should be shunned.
>>107158515Agreed, let's remove "friendly" from the thread. Anyone who comes to us for help after breaking their system with LLM scripts should be told to git gud.
>>107158515I propose ATFLLM>Ask the Fucking LLM
Is there an easy way to setup firewalld (using firewall-config) to block or allow requests on software basis? I'd only allow librewolf, steam and system package manager to connect outside.At this point I don't like the idea of freely allowing freeware software to run on my machine and not blocking their internet access.For example Bottle connects outside whenever it starts up.. And so does other software.
>>107158566No, then you'll get retards killing their OSes like the last thread.Google the error message, google with site:reddit.com, or man -K.
>>107158592you can use some flatpak meme to cut bottles from internet (and put a bunch of other restrictions)but yea, firewall is probably better if it automatically rejects everything
>>107158566This. Reading the manual is piss easy now. They have actual web page manuals and LLMs to spoon feed you. In my day you had to deal with gnutards crippling man pages on purpose to get you to interact with their fuckawful emacs themed info browser, and what they had there was merely unreadable instead of incomplete.
>>107158617I'm going to answer my own question: firewalld cannot be configured on per software basis like Windows firewalls. For this I'd need to use something like OpenSnitch.After using Windows for so many years I just don't simply trust that some tranny programmed 'freeware' will just not connect to internet without my permission. Just because I'm using Linux doesn't mean I should blindly trust each and every software I'm using...
if one were writing a lightweight backend for their application targeting x11, using x11 drawing commands to render the interface would be more efficient than using cairo, yes?
Well apologies for destroying the friendly vibes but sure as shit I wasn't aware of manual entries about handling your computer after playing games with Lutris or bottles.I usually look at the oficial documentaion/wikis from google/stackexchange for my current issues,to get a basic grasp of what is what but his was too complex to found in a single entry besides wine prefixes which only led me to prompt deepseek
>>107158596I mean you do still have to be intelligent enough to ask the right questions and realise when you're being misled. There's no fixing stupid.
>>107158647Efficient in terms of what? If you're using X11 Forwarding of a 56k baud modem then maybe, but in today's world everyone has a GPU and we like to use it.
>>107158592No, it's not a software rule firewall. Could be a job for network namespaces
what's a good alternative to mcomix for reading manga?
>>107158515>>107158548Gatekeeping is unironically based.>>107158566I propose you kys. (well played kek)
>>107158636well it does need to escape wine environment and for that it needs to be programmed specifically to target zero day in wineaint nobody doing that shitthe only issue is your wine can also just run cryptominers and botnets along with software>>107158653t'is okits a learning process
>>107158653Then let this be a lesson for you: follow the paths of others. Don't use obscure distros that you'll have a hard time finding help on the internet, or other uncommon combinations.
>>107158515further, anyone askingshould i delete windows and install linux??????????should be killed
should i delete windows and install linux??????????
>>107158653UNIX is actually very user friendly, it's just very selective about who their friends are.
did someone piss yall off or something? lmaoi wasnt following prev thread>>107158714that is truecant be friends with it if you cant read
>>107158669i try to pick the best tool for the job. i figure let the GPU render into GPU widgets, and let something like x11 render a simple button instead of xfering an image of the button across the network.
>>107158727Yes, the draw commands are very much better for doing that over a network. No modern app works like that though, they all do the "composite the image into a buffer and transfer that over the network" thing which is why X11 Forwarding is essentially unusable with the vast majority of apps nowadays, it's a slideshow, it simply wasn't designed for that and there are many better protocols.
>>107158596>>107158515So I checked the last thread and it's just a guy redditspacing and being annoying, it's clearly a bait.You guys just wasted my time for nothing...
>>107158917Who are these "guys" you're talking to, anon? are they in the room with us right now?
>>107158681I don't know what the fuck are you talking about. I am talking about setting up a firewall to only allow certain software through. Is my English this bad? If so I really need to improve.
>>107158596>site:reddit.comenjoy your indians
>>107159064well you worry about malware right?
Spent some time on the streets last year, and decided to get a laptop and try linux because it's supposed to be good on weak machines. Having a personal computer I could use at the library/cafes helped me keep my humanity and I didn't have to miss out on having fun with a computer even with no/low funds. Life's gotten better, and I can't say I owe linux for that, but it certainly helped me keep my chin up. Cheers! Please take this Compaq pape as tribute.-Longtime lurker
considering switching from Mint to Debian. Whats something that isnt as bloated? Not interested in Arch.
>>107159102yea you can salvage certain android devices with postmarketos and basically have desktop experience on a mobile deviceso that you dont need to drag laptop and a charger around
>>107159111cachyos :)>>107158676please reply
>>107159111>>107157214
>>107158676>>107159146reading books with mupdf
>>107158676nsxiv
>>107159136Still mad that the one random old android phone I have is a Ulefone, I haven't been able to find any info on even the most basic modding.
>>107159168i always accidentally buy the boring phones
I'm testing out Gentoo in Virtualbox, and for some reason the partition type list in fdisk didn't match what was outlined in the documentation. It's working correctly now, but does anyone have an idea what initially caused it?
>>107159168what 'droid version does it run? termux needs 7 and higher5-6 for old unsupported versions >>107159193what exact list? partition types available for formatting or something?
>>107159166my mangos are archive files>>107159167GUI app pls :)
>>107159221>partition types available for formatting or something?That's right. I double-checked and it looks like the problem was that the drive was set to the DOS disklabel by default and I overlooked setting it to GPT the first time. It's a good learning experience for sure.
>>107159221Android 9 pie, and termux has been fun, I tried making the thing into a monero node but at that scale it was not happening.
>>107159266man literal hobos are able to use linux distributionsthats on top of redditors, pewdiepie and elderly (there is that one grandma on youtube)/v/irgins getting filtered by FOSS looks more and more pathetic each passing day
Anyone good with udev? is it possibly to plug a USB into my machine and have rules that rsync all my keys(ssh, gpg) to it from my home folder, or can udev invoke a script to do it? i imagine udev could ID it by a part-UUID and mfg information,
>>107159408to clarify, you don't want to walk me through it, just wondering if that was within the scope of udev. i've seen some rules but don't know the extent of its capabilities. i'll figure it out.
Are Vim or its forks worth learning if I like using Nano? I'm getting ready to start teaching myself to program. Emacs is tempting, but a little intimidating.
>>107159523Not really. CLI editor preference is 99% smugness. Learn how to do basic shit in vim like saving files and quitting vim, but unless you're a sysadmin for your real boy job there's no point.
>>107159523i dont know about nano but vim has some neat bells and whistles which when you discover you realize you didnt know you neededthe joining lines keybinding alone saved me probably hours of work alreadythe . keybinding as wellrandom ass encryption feature that it has out of nowhere terminal integration it even has goddamn autocomplete by defaultits also infinitely easier to use on mobileother editors are unusable compared to vim you have plugins to turn it into IDEother than that tiling WM and/or tmux + nano is a nice combo
>>107159548i learned vim in the intro cs courses in college, and still use it to this day
How do you get "custom" apps to launch on WindowMaker (i.e. Steam and Discord) when there isn't an app to drag to the dock?
>>107159684iirc you need to bring up the window settings or whatever they're called and tell it to force an icon or something
>>107159523Vim is good to know for a lot, but don't make a project of learning it. Just use it and pick up things as you go. Keep a cheat sheet somewhere and pick up a new motion every week or so. Total waste of time to pretend to learn it.
>>107159579I use vim too but for programming, I have never learned how to use it properly. I'm just too slow with it unless editing some config files.
>>107159815InsertVisual BlockE/B navigationYou can press Ctrl+[ instead of Escape:wq:q!r! echo some-command-that-will-be-dumped-into-the-documentThat's all you need to know about Vim.
>>107159832Yeah I know all of these. I'm talking about editing multiple files at the same time and picking stuff from other file stuff like that.
>>107159832Thing is, for 99.99% of Linux users, nano will perform equally well, and every distro worth using will have both in their repos.
>>107159842You can switch buffers with::b1, :b2, etcYou can close a buffer with :bdYou yank select text with y and paste it with p>>107159851If you just learn these basics of Vim then you'll still be flying even though you don't know everything. I'm not a Vim expert and would still use it over Nano any day.
>>107159842not him but you do that with :tabnewvim -p for opening multiple files from CLIgt to the next tabgT to the previ trust it you know how to yank shit by nowthats basically it with multible files
>>107159859when you're editing a config file, ease of use matters more than how fast you can save the file.
>>107159969And Vim is very easy to use if you learn those basics.
>>107160017nano is even easier though and doesn't require *any* learning.
>>107160021For simple edits, yes. For more complicated edits absolutely not.>>107160021It doesn't require any learning because you don't actually use it as an editor. You use zero of its features except type, move with arrow keys and save. This is the most clunky interaction ever compared to Vim, especially if you need to edit a lot of things at once.How do you for example do multiple cursors in Nano so you can edit multiple lines at once?
>>107158647assuming you're talking about networked x11, if you design your gui to be drawn with x11 primitives then it will be much faster, that's how x11 was originally designed, for remote viewingmodern toolkits instead render everything themselves and only hand off the finished bitmap to x11 (or wayland), which sucks over networked x11
>>107160030usecase for editing multiple lines at once that isn't just an overcomplicated search and replace?
>>107160077Appending a comma to multiple lines or inserting a dash/hyphen at the beginning of multiple lines for a YAML list.Do you even edit config files?
>>107160124Write your config files properly the first time, why the fuck are you having to insert dashes by hand?
>>107160177>t y p e o u t e v e r y c h a r a c t e r b y h a n d s l o w l yIf you used Vim that would be way more efficient
>>107160183type faster faggot
>>107160207Yes, type all of those commas and dashes by hand when you have a pre-made list you pasted into the file from elsewhere and need to format it appropriately. That's going to take you all day.Nano is a toy for people that use it as a typewriter rather than an editor, even things like Micro are better than it if you're stuck on being too retarded for a modal editor but still want something better.
> decide to try GNOME> want to configure wireguard config> add wireguard through system settings app> it freezes> wtf> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/issues/3464> created 5 months agoLmao, at this point I'm convinced nobody is using GNOME. When similar shit happens on KDE after major update it gets fixed in next 2 minor updates
>>107160224Again, why aren't you generating these config files with a script? Why are you typing these out by hand like an intern?
>>107160233Writing a script to do that takes longer than just doing it in Vim but I guess that's good job security for you if you're bored.
>>107160238You've clearly had to write yaml configs more than 1 time, which means writing a script would have saved you time after the first one.
>>107160239I've had to do it many times in fact. You clearly haven't. People that actually edit config files need features like multiple cursors. It's why every editor apart from Nano has it.Writing a script for something that should take 5 minutes at most is not the answer.
>>107160253This is what I was talking about earlier. People who use vim constantly have to justify that they spent the time to learn vim instead of just using nano, so they invent scenarios that don't need to happen to justify their usage of vim.Nobody cares what editor you use besides yourself, man.
>>107160253Also, if you do write a script you're going to need a good editor to write the script in anyway otherwise you'll be in a recursive loop of editing your script to workaround Nano being shit in Nano but realising Nano is still shit so you need to write a script in Nano for your script your editing in Nano.
>>107160268What is the scenario for a typewriter?
>>107160275Usecase for caring what text editor people use?
>>107160284I genuinely don't care. This whole chain started because you said Nano was easier to use. I agreed with you that yes, in the simple case it probably is easier.There are better editors that people that edit config files actually use though.
>>107160298just use KWrite kappa
>>107160312Kate is better. I do use that sometimes for when I don't feel like sitting in the terminal.
>>107160320I have this alias anyone can pinch if they want:$ alias sukatesukate='env SUDO_EDITOR='\''kate -b -n'\'' sudoedit 'So I can do something like:sukate /etc/hosts to edit the hosts files using sudoedit.
$ alias sukatesukate='env SUDO_EDITOR='\''kate -b -n'\'' sudoedit '
sukate /etc/hosts
>>107160336in my experience, when using Kate or other GUI editors to edit system files, if I don't have permission to save, it'll just ask me for my password to save it. No need to faff about with sudoedit.
>>107160355That requires the Kio Admin plugin which not every system will have (I don't have that installed on my system):https://invent.kde.org/system/kio-adminIf you already have sudo auth'd in your terminal (because the cookie is valid) then this alias will also never ask for permission, it'll just write out the edits once you've finished saving it.
>>107160367sudoedit should also in theory work with Flatpak Kate, or any other editor too because it never requires that the editor itself have root privileges. It's a pretty neat tool in sudos toolbox.
>>107160367not having kio-admin installed is definitely a choice.Like sure it's your system but also: why?
>>107160480It's questionable what value it provides for the higher attack surface.https://security.opensuse.org/2025/02/21/kio-admin-admittance.html
>>107160490Fair, but the article even admits the potential for exploits is low.
>>107160336Why don't you just set "EDITOR=kate -n -b" in your environment and use regular sudoedit?
Is LUKS unbreachable with a good enough password? t. offsite backup
>>107160679With a long enough password, LUKS can't be cracked in your lifetime. So your Chinese cartoons will be safe.
>>107160679>2025>LUKS passwordUse secureboot+tpm2
>>107160880>secureboot+tpm2>Why would you use your brain to store your password? Are you retarded? Just use this non-backdoored (pinky promise) chip instead
>>107161609Sure that absolutely not backdoored so-processor inside your CPU didn't steal you decryption key already
anyone tried x11libre on void? How is it?
I want to run a white noise/static sound removal on all audio, on pipewire.But before I get into it, tell me if I'll like it or not.
>>107162056You VILL install noise/static sound removal on all audio and you VILL like it. You VILL also Install easyeffects and you VILL like that too.
>>107162056First of all why do you need it? Why do you have any white noise/static sound at all?
>>107162077Because some video ships with it? Like youtube asmr videos. I would like to get rid of it.>>107162067Guess I'll try easyeffects, though I'm not sure it does what I want
I'm a Viman. Lower your tone when talking to me.
How do I recursively execute a command in every subdirectory of a certain directory?
>>107162270cd ./acommandcd ..cd ./a/b/commandcd ../..cd ./a/b/ccommandcd ../../../cd ./a/b/c/dcommand
fglt more like glgbtq+
>>107162270find /certain/directory -type d -exec a_command \;>>107162328damn, guess i'm switching to windows with that one
find /certain/directory -type d -exec a_command \;
>>107162056i'm not certain exactly what you're after, but i run all my audio through calf studio tools, using pipewire since it's the only server that can mix alsa/pulse/jack clients together into the same audio graph, and in that i use the deesser plugin to filter out those harsh "s" sounds (like loud white noise)
>>107162294> not using zoxidengmi
How can I install this?https://codeberg.org/amjoseph/sixosIt's basically NixOS without systemd but doesn't have an ISO.
>>107162328>glgbtq+Is this the version of Windows that don't have bloatware and telemetry?
>>107162377why is it that anti-systemd people seem to never have any idea how linux works?
>>107162399Idk, maybe a red sticker isn't enough of a readme
https://github.com/wwmm/easyeffects/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md> This is our first release using a combination of Qt, QML and Kirigami instead of gtk4.Total gn*me death
>>107159231you mean cbz files? some pdf readers like Zathura support the format (you might need to install a separate package for that).>>107160229usecase for wireguard? closed, wont fix.
>>107160229nobody has used gnome since 3.0
>>107160880>tpm2Why would you want something that works if someone steals the whole PC and doesn't if you change hardware?
Is ext4 is technically more performant, why do gaming distros often default to or even sometimes only offer btfrs but a lot of normal distros default to ext4?
>>107163016btrfs distros are shipped by pajeets that want to put snapshot features in them
>>107163016ext4 nowadays is the "idk what i'm doing" option.if you want performance, you use xfs, if you want a filesystem that cares about your data, you use btrfs. ext4 is abandonware
>>107163092lol
>>107163123>kernel 3.1 (2011)
>>107162294>women coding be like
LXQt 2.3 is dropping soon on Arch, has more complete cross-compositor Wayland support and many improvements
>>107163016ext4 is mostly legacy. It has nicer UX for people coming from Mac / Windows because you can paper over hardware fuckups with fsck and keep working. Traditional Unix filesystems treat corruption as a serious matter where you should backup and reformat and didn't go through great pains to repair the existing filesystem.btrfs has really high CPU overhead for fast storage. xfs and ext4 have basically equivalent performance. Certain workloads may favor one or the other, but for general use xfs having reflink is an overwhelming advantage.
How do I into Wayland Cinnamon on Gentoo? 10 seconds on DuckSearch didn't give any info.Already trying out XFCE4 on Wayland and they actually gave instructions on this one but not for Cinnamon.>>107163092Use F2FS for performance, assumed it's an SSD. Right?
>>107163903Nice. LXQt has been my daily driver for at least a year now, and I like it. I'm only on LXQt 1.4 (which of course doesn't use Wayland) on Ubuntu. Perhaps I should install Debian 13 which has LXQt 2.1, or I could wait for Ubuntu 26.04 LTS which will probably have at least LXQt 2.3 I would imagine.
is mouse movement always going to cause a CPU spike even in wayland?i'm on sway on amd ryzen 2nd gen on arch.i thought this problem was solved long ago. guess not.
>>107158506When will arch have official x64_86 V3 kernel? Does it even have meaningful impact on performance?
>>107160664I don't have a GUI running at all times and don't want to use Kate at all times either. I get some good use out of it sometimes though.
>>107162270This works in Zsh:for d in ~/Pictures/**/do[ -d "$d" ] || continuepushd "$d"pwdpopddone
for d in ~/Pictures/**/do[ -d "$d" ] || continuepushd "$d"pwdpopddone
>>107162459>QML and Kirigami
>>107164893Anything's better than GTK.
>>107162459>Now we have a built-in tray icon and menuI still don't understand why GNOME ever broke that. It's a recurring pattern now that GTK apps that once supported a tray icon on KDE do nothing now. I get that you only care about one single desktop environment but there are other environments out there besides yours.
>>107164967>I get that you only care about one single desktop environment but>butThere is no but. They don't care. 90% of g would act like GNOME devs given the skill and position. Of course they have nothing but salt for days about software they don't even use.
>>107164967i don't know what xfce is or does, sorry
>>107164967>I still don't understand why GNOME ever broke thatBecause they were too lazy to implement it and doubled down with muh usability escuses. Now they can't go back or they'll look like idiots. It's the same with Wayland and global coordinates
>>107165016The thing is /g/ DID use GTK based software that had a tray icon. So did many other people outside of this echo chamber. That all regressed once they removed support. I still come across GTK apps sometimes with a system tray checkbox in their settings that does absolutely nothing.
>>107165054>this echo chamberHey buddy you know this ain't reddit right?
>>107165114he's talking about the gnome echo chamber, the people who think gtk is just for gnome
Is it Kover for remote desktop without Systemd?
https://github.com/uutils/coreutils/pull/9026>Replace crc32fast (IEEE 802.3 - incorrect) with crc_fast (ISO 3309 - correct)ugh. I with they had kept the ability to generate IEEE 802.3 CRC32B instead of completely removing it. cksum is literally the only thing I've ever seen use ISO 3309 CRC32.
>>107165421GNU should change it first, and then they'll be aligned. I too discovered this weirdness in the past. I guess GNU never changed it for historical reasons. It's weird to me that there are various different CRC32 algorithms that nobody can seemingly agree on which one to use.
>>107165416git revert bb4c9a0fc51bf67df58f9485c4093a9dcc282385 works for now at least.
git revert bb4c9a0fc51bf67df58f9485c4093a9dcc282385
>>107165442>GNU should change it first, and then they'll be aligned.https://github.com/uutils/coreutils/blob/main/docs/src/extensions.mdhashsum existed and was merged into cksum, they're clearly not against such things. the default output should match GNU cksum but the option to generate the variant used by almost everyone would be nice.
>>107165503Ah, yes, at least having the option would be nice. Not by default though.
Any easy way to nuke snaps from Ubuntu? Or should I just go for mint?
does my font look okay?it's noto sans 14 in sway/arch, I haven't done any optimizations or improvements other than apply the font (because I don't know how)seems a bit more blurry than winshit did
>>107165697Seems fine to me, screenshots can be deceptive though because they don't fully capture what you actually see on your monitor.
>>107165697Definitely looks blurry to me.
>>107165697I hate noto sans so fucking much its so ugly its insane
so I'm trying to add FREETYPE_PROPERTIES="cff:no-stem-darkening=0 autofitter:no-stem-darkening=0" to whatever config or .profile type file is appropriate, where's the best place to add it, and should anything work?I added it to config.fish (I use fish btw)>>107165907thanks for confirming anondoes this one look the same? hoping this FREETYPE_PROPERTIES stuff made a difference
FREETYPE_PROPERTIES="cff:no-stem-darkening=0 autofitter:no-stem-darkening=0"
Going out on a limb here, but has anyone tried/used rtl-sdr? Doesn't work on my machine but if it really works, it's something I'd love to plan my next laptop project around
>>107166013wait that should sayset FREETYPE_PROPERTIES "truetype:interpreter-version=40 cff:no-stem-darkening=0 autofitter:no-stem-darkening=0"having clipboard noob troubles
>>107165416Are there any actual reasons to not use systemd? I think people say things like "it's too big which means it has a big attack surface for vulnerabilities". But I presume it gets more attention from devs than any other init system these days so maybe that should make systemd pretty secure. I dunno though.
>>107165910i don't really know what else is better, anon. what do you use?i'm willing to just experiment with shit, i've only started tinkering.
>>107166013Zoom into your screenshots with different settings and compare them. You can at least compare font rendering.
>>107165910>>107166253For web browser I'm using MS fonts from Windows. Firefox/Libreshit needs specific about:config tweaks to fix up the blurry rendering. For system/wm fonts I'm using San Francisco Pro Display / Mono and that's Apple.Linux DEs are just trash these days in terms of fonts but nu-web browsers are even worse.
>>107166253Sorry i wasnt trying to throw shit at you're font. I'm just complaining because I used noto for a long time and learned to hate it. I use the Ubuntu font which is fine but nothing special. I don't really know what makes a font look, and there's too many fucking options
>>107166013You need to export it for it to be available to child processes. Add it in the file that sets up the environment for your login shell, like .profile you mentioned.
>>107166706It's tricky because for a font to truly work everything in the UI should be unified across applications. In linux this is impossible due to gtk, qt, flatpaks, window managers and whatever else.And seems like people who develop desktop environments are blind or have issues recognising functionality and readability...Mint and Cinnamon wasn't too bad either I suppose. It's somewhat different but very readable.
>>107166237The sheer naivete on display in this post is genuinely breathtaking. To seriously posit that "more attention from devs" is a net positive for security, without a single thought for who those developers are or what their incentives might be, reveals a profoundly simplistic, corporate-drone worldview.
>>107166237Personal preference mostly. Also Systemd can be very buggy sometimes because of how large it is. I still get bugs with Systemd Resolved refusing to resolve DNS sometimes on a Debian VPS I have which completely went away as soon as I swapped it with Unbound.
Funny how 4chan hates black people, yet a black guy wrote the shell that most of you are probably using every day
>>107166928I use zsh.
>>107166928Bash guy is not happy with me--that's okay, I'll still keep using that garbage.
>>107166016Be careful with that, anon. You realize every signal you pull is visible, right? You're basically putting a giant "I'm mapping the local RF environment" flag on your IP for any glowie to see. They love it when hobbyists do their work for them.
I just learned Bash has a built-in timer variable $SECONDS. Mind blown.$ bash -c 'sleep 2;echo $SECONDS;SECONDS=0;sleep 10;echo $SECONDS;sleep 2;echo $SECONDS'21012
$ bash -c 'sleep 2;echo $SECONDS;SECONDS=0;sleep 10;echo $SECONDS;sleep 2;echo $SECONDS'21012
>>107167014duly noted! How different would it be from the typical wifi/bluetooth searching an unpaired iPhone does? Is public wifi a better choice?
So I emerged app-editors/vscode and it fucking compiles nodejs. I never expected this, a code editor takes longest to compile in my system now because nodejs is a fucking pain...
>>107167325Smartphones typically use a random MAC address when scanning at least which helps to limit tracking a bit.
>>107167335You could always use the binary package repo, but yes, V8 is a pig. I also wonder why Gentoo doesn't have nodejs-bin that fetches the binaries from upstream.
I was wrong, sorry. linux is actually good. I've been using omarchy for a week w/ neovim / hyprland / some ricing thing and its been so so great
>>107167347Well, damn. I swear I'll find a way to play am/fm radio on my machine without getting thrown in jail
>>107167358I use binhost but somehow the nodejs binhost binary either doesn't exist or has some weird non-desktop USE flags.... Fuck this, it's still compiling like literally fuck this. I'll use a binary whatever.
How do I hand web links that are used for installing directly to an application?I'm trying to use musescore studio and I need to download the free instruments from their website but trying to do that makes xdg-open open, and it tells me I have no application that can open the weblink they were trying to get me to download from
>>107167724forgot to mention but I'm on mint cinammonI'm just trying to get a way to practice my piano again
>>107165910>>107165697Noto Serif master race (also sway/arch).
>>107167746rightclick>properties>open with...>musescore work for you? That should make musescore the default sf2 app. if you're having trouble actually downloading the files you could use wget <link to file> with the links from the site. Not sure your level of experience but you also have to extract the .tar.bz file (ie the type of archive ydp grand piano is)
>>107167873https://www.musehub.com/muse-sounds/muse-strings?utm_campaign=mss-app-home-mh-muse-strings&utm_medium=mh-cta&utm_source=mss-appI'm struggling to explain properly what my problem is and its making me feel like a boomer.the install button in their webpage seems like its just a request to download and open something. idk how to access the link behind it directly, other than idk looking at the page source and scanning through it.
>>107167871This is the best example of why most people really are blind and default to very unergonomic workflows and setup.
sudo touch nigger
>>107168022Are you saying that font choice is a good thing or a bad thing?
>>107168123sudo touch little\ boys
sudo touch little\ boys
>>107168098
>>107167970>https://www.musehub.com/muse-sounds/muse-strings?utm_campaign=mss-app-home-mh-muse-strings&utm_medium=mh-cta&utm_source=mss-appI followed the link, and it took me to a downloads page for their program Musesounds manager. If you're also seeing that then I'd say keep following their instructions. Deb is linked here: https://muse-cdn.com/Muse_Sounds_Manager_x64.debThe app looks like it contains the same soundfont marketplace, hope it works
>>107163092>ext4 is abandonwareYou're a moron. It is the most widely used filesystem by far and is the first to support every kernel enhancement in the block subsystem.
>>107165670You should just use Ubuntu as is, snaps are great
>>107166928I don't hate black people
Could someone help me? I tried to add my music folder to my mint desktop but after moving it back, it doesn’t show up on the side panel in my files anymore. How do I get it back to this side panel?
>>107168380Nevermind I just fixed it.
>>107168246>is the first to support every kernel enhancement in the block subsystemMostly due to the filesystems simplicity not really because it's any good. When somebody comes up with a new idea for something like folios then it's easy to add it to Ext4 as a testbed.
This is from my openbox desktop from ~2013. I've been using MATE/KDE for the past ~10 years so I don't remember anything about how I made it look like this. I know the image viewer and cmus theme because I still use them today.Does anyone know off the top of their head what theme the outlines are from? Or what the snow was from?
>>107168961How do you deal with files without metadata in your cmus library? Is there a way to use directories instead of importing files?
>>107168974Not that I'm aware of. Fooyin and deadbeef (with a plugin) can use directories, but I've found both programs to be unstable. I use puddletag to quickly add uniform artists to everything I download, only takes a few seconds and I don't download new music much anymore.
>>107168961snow is clearly xsnow, the theme I have no idea but it shouldn't be too tough to recreate
>>107169007Thanks anon!
>>107166827This is as retarded as saying don't use GNU ls because GNU wget is buggy
>>107169064Except ls and Wget are not part of the same software suite. You can have system with GNU Coreutils that doesn't even have Wget installed and yes, I realise you can do the same with Systemd too but that's not the point I was making.
>>107169064not him but cmon anondns is pretty fucking important
>>107169075>i didn't mean exactly what i saidJust take the L dipshit>>107169098There are lots of other DNS services. Hyperbole notwithstanding systemd isn't supposed to provide your whole OS.
>>107169270If you ship something as part of your software suite then it's clearly intended for use. Why are you hand waving it away?
I know windows gets jealous and starts to fuck things up when you dual boot out of a partitioned drive, but is it the same if I have windows and linux on separate drives?
>>107169325Just disconnect your other drive before you install it. Windows has been known to fuck other people's drives in the past during install but once it's installed it's generally fine.
>>107169312Because distros are expected to understand the finer points of these choices. "but it was the default" isn't an excuse.
>>107169374It wasn't the distro that configured it though, I did. How was I supposed to know you're not supposed to use it and if you attempt to do so it will break your DNS?There's no support matrix anywhere and if there were it'd probably be a pain to maintain because Systemd is huge.There are advantages to using software with a smaller and well defined scope.
>>107168994Okay, I'll guess I could try cmus. Just don't like using a library.
>>107169350a while ago I tried dual booting on my laptop but after a couple of windows updates windows fucked up the bootloader or something like that so I'm still weary. I plan to get a second m.2 drive to give daily driving linux a try but I'm still not ready to leave windows behind
>>107169393>How was I supposed to know you're not supposed to use it and if you attempt to do so it will break your DNS?You're supposed to test all the options and become a subject matter expert. Most likely you just fucked something up on your own time.
>>107169509I didn't fuck anything up the symptoms were as follows:>Restart systemd-resolved>DNS will work>Go and have a coffee and get something to eat since everything is working great>Come back and DNS will have broken>Check journald logs and see it's complaining about some entry in /etc/hosts that it can't read properly for whatever reason and it's decided to break DNS as a whole as a result and is just stuck and no longer answers and repliesThat is a bug in Systemd Resolved and yes, testing software like I did is how you find out what is dogshit and what is not. Systemd is dogshit.
>>107169541Maybe you fix the file the error message tells you.
>>107168994Cool, thanks for mentioning Fooyin. I did some research earlier and wasn't really sure and Fooyin didn't come up in my own research.
>>107169575The file was valid syntax, the issue was Systemd. I switched to Unbound instead which actually offers a much nicer interface to do what I was doing anyway and I wish I'd listened to all the people saying not to use Systemd sooner but I thought I should at least give it a fair chance.
>>107169593Also, even if the file were invalid Systemd should absolutely not break the entirety of DNS because of one single invalid entry it doesn't like. It doesn't even crash it just stays running but refuses to answer anymore.
>>107169593>>107169606pebcak
>>107169759It exists between Lennart's keyboard for making such buggy software in the first place, yes.
>>107159102how did you deal with the shame of using an outdated device as the hot girls laugh at you with their macbook pro M17?
>>107169801are you getting off to that?be honest anon
>>107159102Everyone should be a homeless alcoholic at least once in their lives. People would be way less egoistical.
>>107169816guilty, felt insecure about my stinkpad when i was in college, all jokez here thoughserious question, love KDE with Arch but i'm not entirely happy with Dolphin, trying to an experience close to file explorer in Windows
>>107169831its a miserable life when you care about what other people think>i'm not entirely happy with Dolphin, trying to an experience close to file explorer in Windowsit has tabs, it opens folderswhat exactly is the issue?
Just tried MX Linux 25 Live and there already is a fucking update for the installer.Why and what the fuck?
>>107169862>what are bugfixes, alex
>>107169843Nta but Dolphin is very convoluted and slow as fuck to use when compared to Explorer. I don't want to see 100+ items when right clicking on something etc.>>107169831Thunar is closest to Explorer but in order to get fast speeds you'll need to utilize sidebar shortcuts instead of the tree view.It's somewhat strange that file managers are still lacking in terms of simple functionality.
Loondook going A2M with a literal NAZI, sisters how do we stop this trans and bipoc holocost? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCcTSAhvj-s
>>107170084>I don't want to see 100+ items when right clicking on something etc.its safe to assume you can change that>in order to get fast speedsnigga are you fucking speedrunning opening loli porn folder or some shit?this is why i dont use your GUI kettle software, if i need to do something repeatedly i will just automate it>>107170129for some reason i thought DHH was distrotubeweird brainfartwho is this chud anyway?
echo NIGGER\ DICK > MY\ ASS
>>107170142>for some reason i thought DHH was distrotube>weird brainfart>who is this chud anyway?I'll be honest I'm larping as a tech bro and I know jack squat about troonix shit but apparently this guy made something called Ruby On Rails and Omarchy but when I tried Omarchy on VM the default display setting doubles the pixels and the VM window is really small I couldn't figure out Vim to change it and everything was cut off, why is the default setting double pixels I don't get it.
>>107170162omarchy is unironically very bad from a technical perspective. it comes with chatgpt/grok shortcuts so i bet most of its tooling is written with that.
>>107170142No, I was talking about general usage speed. Not even repetitive tasks.I have so used to Exploder (and that's the best part of Windows after you clean it up a little bit..) nothing really compares.
>>107170142To add: I didn't want to hurt your feelings. It's okay to use anything what you want.
>>107170162>Ruby On Railsahthe webshitter meme>I couldn't figure out Vimahthe usual /v/ struggletbf most people are just like dogs, trained to press software buttons so modal editing + CLI interface would always be a struggle at the beginning >>107170185well a lot of the "general" things you are doing in it ARE repetitive tasksbut its the same thing as with software development all these nerd ass setups and keyboards to edit text fiiles "faster" in reality do nothing cause your biggest overhead is a mental oneunless you are one of these people who "thinks" about code by typing it out firstthis is also why i prefer CLI, cause i can just put commands in a plaintext file and make it executable so that i dont need to remember anything and i literally just need to type a single command and my 'puter just does everything automaticallythe only issue is ofc you need to be organized, everything needs to go to its specific place and be done in a specific way>>107170198whatim just preaching one of the teachings of our prophet Terry, which is: "GUI is for niggers"
What is the best laptop screen size, or which screen size do you recommend anyway? A sweet spot between portability and screen estate is desired.
>>107170253depends on the distance to your face, your eye sight, glasses and so onofc smaller sizes and closer distance will fuck up your vision faster so the larger the betterin my experience phones might be slightly too small for terminal (it just doesnt fit) and large tablet size (around ipad) with text font on a larger side is ok-sh given you also remove retarded software buttons clutter and just use full screen CLI or something similar and use physical keyboard instead of software onewhich also reminds me of this retarded ass meme that is macos interface where you have tiny ass window sandwiched between bars and it makes me genuinely wonder if apple users fucking hate their eyes
>>107170241>>Ruby On Rails>ah>the webshitter meme>>I couldn't figure out Vim>ah>the usual /v/ struggle>tbf most people are just like dogs, trained to press software buttons so modal editing + CLI interface would always be a struggle at the beginningWhy is it my fault troon if the pixels were set to 1x I could go into the display settings to set the resolution, wtf is a Vim anyway why is it better than notepad I just want something that werkz
>>107170294>I just want something that werkzi mean it does just werkin fact it has a lot of random shit by default that makes it pretty versatile but its a terminal modal editor, you have literally never seen or used interface like that beforewhen it comes to FOSS software its like learning how to use a computer anew and believe it or not you weren't born with the knowledge on how to torrent vidya and run activators so that you can play your slop for freeanyway, use nanoyou will probably like it better, its pretty much a notepad but in terminali dont know why internet people constantly suggest people who are new to computers to use vim, this is some aspergers behavior that is beyond me
>>107170331>i mean it does just werkIT DIDN'T JUST WERK TROON AT THE LOWEST RESOLUTION EVERYTHING WAS UNREADABLE, IF THE DEFAULT WASN'T DOUBLE PIXEL SIZE I MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SET THE RESOLUTION, ALSO THIS VIM PROGRAM KEPT SAYING THE FILE WAS STILL OPEN AFTER I TRIED TO SAVE AND CLOSE, IT WAS A BAD FIRST IMPRESSION
>>107170294vim is an exe file just like notepad.
Lately I installed fedora on my new pc, but ethernet just doesn't work consistently. I'll stick to windows I guess.
Why is /boot still a separate partition? Grub and systemd-boot can read every filesystem worth using on your rootfs. Grub can even load LUKS encrypted rootfs. Why are we still doing this?
>>107170162>apparently this guy made something called Ruby On RailsIt's something that's entirely irrelevant right now and was dogshit even back when it was made.
>>107170911i remember baseddevs really loving it though
>>107170854what if you want to use lvm?
>>107170854Technically you can just store the kernel in the EFI System Partition and be done with it. Distros still use /boot as a separate partition for legacy reasons and because they're too lazy to update their installer.
>>107170949You should reconsider.
>>107167042Use case?
>>1071709192004 was still when all programming languages sucked ass so people were constantly jumping ship to whatever new flavor of the year language got released. In reality most companies just used PHP, C# or Java.Even today you will most commonly find JavaScript, PHP, Python, Go, C# or even Rust instead of RoR on servers. Ruby is just a completely irrelevant language outside of legacy projects which are stuck on it.
>>107171049PHP just werks. It was what most people used back then and it's still what most people use today. It's not a sexy a language though so doesn't get any plaudits but when you look at things like Wordpress which is probably the most successful piece of web software ever, it's everywhere.
>>107170974for me i make /boot the ESP and put the bootloader/kernel/initramfs in therethe esp doesn't have to be /efi or /boot/efi
>>107171163Same. I would assume this is more common than /efi which isn't even in the filesystem hierarchy specification: https://specifications.freedesktop.org/fhs/latest/index.html/boot/efi is probably the most common given distros insist on having a separate partition for /boot still so therefore mount the ESP inside of that.
Please help, I'm worried about my privacy.Is it possible for grub's auto timer, to change on its own? It's on arch linux.The timer i set to grub is 5 seconds, i came home one day and it's 30 seconds.Did somebody change it?I'm worried somebody cloned my drive or accessed my shit. I didn't encrypt my drive.I never updated arch ever, it was a clean install and i just fucked with some settings and tinckered around.
>>107171129>still what most people use todayThat's only because Wordpress uses it. So it's not even being directly used in many cases. It's just what powers the most popular CMS where people just drag images and text into.
>>107171228People also use things like Laravel to write their own custom stuff in. PHP is very popular still for people that want to get shit done instead of spend all of their time writing JavaScript or figuring out how the hell to get Python to scale.
>>107171225shouldn't be possible given you don't use root
>>107171225The default grub timer is usually anywhere from 1-10 seconds. It goes up in the following cases:>your system was forcefully powered off during the previous boot process (power loss, manually holding the power button, clicking the power button while in the grub menu)>you had a crash related to grub itself>you updated your OS and grub got updated>you updated your grub configThe intent is to give you enough time to recover in the rare case where a system update or a grub reconfiguration causes an unbootable system. Since 1-10 seconds is sometimes too short for people to interact with the keyboard and pause the timer.Since you haven't updated but did tinker around, I assume you updated something related to your bootloader or you powered off your computer in a non-graceful way. So, you're fine.
If I install w10 on an NVME drive with the gdr nu-bootloader or whatever it's called instead, will this somehow cause problems with wiping it completely and installing arch or another Linux distro on the same drive once I'm done with windows forever due to some low-level Microsoft trickery?Addendum: how hard is it to write and/or compile Linux software on Windows and vice-versa? Assume I will use Posix standards in all cases here
Is it possible to install WINE Stable on Void? The version on xbps seems to be the Develop version.
>>107170177aside from keyboard shortcuts what is technically bad about it?
>>107171354>Addendum: how hard is it to write and/or compile Linux software on Windows and vice-versa?On Windows you use WSL2 (So it's not cross compilation but rather native compilation in VM). On Linux that's depends on language but in most cases you'll use mingw64.
>>107171636it's a distro for nobody
>>107171860>the most popular distro >for nobodywhat did he mean by this?
>>107171911>omarchy>popular
>>107168448>the most performant and featureful filesystem >due to its simplicityYou should look up ext4 on Wikipedia.Spoiler alert: it's not the same as fat32
I don't need to change any drivers if I'm downgrading my RX5700xt to a RX580 on Mint, right?
>>107171183>/efi which isn't even in the filesystem hierarchy specificationThat "specification" is 5 days old within FDo and it specifies a 40 year old state of affairs, EFI and Linux didn't exist then.The specification for a Linux filesystem is here: https://uapi-group.org/specifications/specs/linux_file_system_hierarchy/
>>1071720565 days old and they saw no need to include /efi? Maybe because it's not widely used?
>>107172056Fuck off Poettering, nobody besides you actually takes UAPI seriously
>>107172136Maybe you can't read.
>>107164229IIRC 1.4 doesn't have fancymenu, so you're stuck with mainmenu which is very primitive. Plus that's the Qt5 version (EOL) and like a hundred deficiencies were resolved since. If I were you I'd get on non-LTS Ubuntu releases, I compile from git but I think 25.10 has 2.2.
i just installed mx linux on my laptop which has less than 2g ram, can i hang out here now?
>>107171499wine is one of those things where 'release' status means absolutely fuck all
Linux would be perfect if it had the superior NTFS, perfect for video storage and mogs btrfs/zfs and ext4. The MFT and Everything is GOAT:d
>>107172343you don't even need to be running linux to hang here. i still enjoy helping people in the windows thread even though it hasn't been my main os in 15 years
>>107172034Of course not. They all use the same AMDGPU kernel driver and the same RADV on top of that.As long as you have the necessary firmware files installed. I don't know how it is on Mint, but on Gentoo you'd have to manually install firmware. I guess Mint has all the firmware files installed by default.
Does anyone here have experience running SecureBlue? Interested in hearing about it.
>>107172656Only benefit of ntfs is the master file table
you guys recon he just saw someone rice a linux desktop and though that this is how you "build an operating system"?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm3W1SUQMXM
>>107169843what >>107170084 said, i did some research and i'm using xfe now and it's working really well
>>107172934desu ive yet to run into a situation where i absolutely NEED a file explorerclosest i can think of is an upload dialogue for posting dumb ass images to this website
>>107172989i like going into my smb share and browse file tree, see icons for photos and videos, maybe it's my windows brain but i also use the Win11 cut, copy, and paste icons in Explorer also
>>107172998i like the lack of clutter in CLIeasier to just look through it, also since its all text from stdout you can manipulate it however you want one thing that i will give to file managers copying a SINGLE file is much easier with systems clipboard at least by defaulttho this is solvable with a simple script kinda like the one i have that recursively cd's into directories so now i can get to whatever i want much faster and more convenient compared to a filemanageri dont think i can make it more convenient or faster but at least i will match it somewhat
>>107172701If you've already used Fedora Silverblue or Bluefin it's no different than those other than being an actually secure distro.
>>107172656If it has no checksums it's crap.
after messing around a bit with debian + xfce live, i run into a strange bug, after a while i cant resize firefox with the mouse. it only happens with firefox.does anyone runs xfce debian on bare metal here? does the bug happens with you, or thats just a live bug.
>>107169541Works for me and tens of millions. Sounds like a skill issue. Maybe you should stick to windows.
>>107170241Terry was a psychotic troon who didn't do anything every 2nd year CS major doesn't do. You think it's remarkable because at your intelligence you think in memes.
>>107158506whatsup boysim having some issues with waybar / hyprlandim running latest archthe rightmost icon is disappearing whenever i dont have any windows open, or changes to a virtual desktop with no windows.The icon to the right is displaying my current power pland and when i click it it changes it.theres still an invisible "button" to press when its not showing, its just the icon that is removed.Ive tried changing fonts from nerdfonts to fontawesome in the waybar css but it doesnt make a difference. something has happened the last few days i havent had this problem before. anyone know what kind of weird bug this is and how to fix it?
>>107174869forgot picture
Kernel 6.9 and beyond breaks everything. Why?
>>107171636it's a hodge podge of shittily written bash scripts that never check for errors
>>107174915Because you didn't install your blob drivers under package management.
>>107174741i can smell the neurodiversity through the screen
>>107174741>troonI don't think you know what this means
>>107175184no, they enabled SATA power management by default and now a bunch of disks don't work. >https://lore.kernel.org/regressions/ZlY8SbGVMHho-dLz@ryzen.lan/they also did some stupid things with nvidia driviers and Bluetooth modules and they haven't fixed anything yet.
Does anyone know what is the delay with goyvidia drivers for Fedora 43? It's been over a week and rpm fusion still doesn't have the latest driver.But god forbid if it was 0.001 daily update to kernel I would need to build akmods every three days
>>107175232>some stupid things with nvidia driviersNot the kernel's problem>Bluetooth modules and they haven't fixedThey break some every release
>>107172851fuck i hate that channelall he does is humiliate willing people who are obviously not good programmers and his fanboys are all up his asshole>but you would be instantly disqualified if you don't know this trivia in an interviewokay coolio, finance is extremely competitive anyways and many talented devs will be disqualified on variety of reasons even if they had the skills
>>107174869post config so there's a chance someone can helpalso check the debug logs
>>107175319nah the issue is these clowns might not be realive read some rumors, plus this shit is just way too ridiculous if they ARE real they should never touch a goddamn computer ever again if you call yourself an "OS dev" for example and you dont know what kernel space and user space is or how threads work you should just fucking kill yourself
>>107175381>nah the issue is these clowns might not be realahh, that is probably it, he is promoting his website too. also took a major interest in the piratesoftware drama to springboard himself
>>107175352i can post the config but theres so much shit thereso the issue seems to be hyprland/window thats next to it, when i remove that module it works. when the module has no window to show it removes the icon for some reason.the module looks like this: "hyprland/window": { "format": "{}", "on-click": "wofi --show drun"
>>107175232>controller advertises LPM support>drive advertises LPM support>kernel enables LPM, drive stops workingNot the kernel's fault.
>>107175420>he is promoting his website too. also took a major interest in the piratesoftware drama to springboard himselfthats fine, tho i guess this can count as a point towards his possible motivations for fakingif hes faking this shit that is the cringe parthe does *feel* sketchy to me, just something is off about him, cant really tell what it is
>>107175352also debugging shows nothing unusual
>>107175460>Not the kernel's fault.But my SSD don't work and I have to blame someone. Also why this happens only on Linux. In windows my SSD works just fine.
>>107169961How rustfucked is Trixie?How rustfucked is MX25?Asking for a fren.
>>107166736yeah I think it worked this time. at least in a placebo way.>>107166612i might try the ms fonts. also afaik, the FREETYPE_PROPERTIES settings I mentioned earlier ITT have made a difference. default settings in linux tend to be ass and unoptimized in terms of UX, this isn't new.Big DEs either have this stuff built-in or they don't even bother because no one pushes for it to be made the default.One thing I'll say about Microshit after going cold turkey Arch Linux/Wayland/Sway is it's good to have a lot of people complaining, you can really see that's how Microshit got good UX eventually. people just kept complaining.>>107166706see what I mentioned about freetype properties.it's not that hard to get a good default going once you know where to change things.at least now it feels like standards are being followed, even though standards may not be implemented by default (and you have to fuck around with config files)
>>107166928I don't hate black people.
>>107166928i hate some black people
>>107175635I hate all jews and many white people (for sucking jew cock). Other than shitjeets (who no one likes anyway), I don't see other races sucking off jews - only whites.
>>107158506Could anyone explain to me the differences between the packages "plasma, plasma-desktop, plasma-meta" on Arch? I'm trying to install it manually. I'm using the "minimal" option from the Kubuntu installer as reference, which comes with the mere basics but works out of the box.
>>107175695you should only ever need to install one of those (that brings in the rest). idk if this is the meta package or not. usually i'm good with installing the simplest named one and it does the rest. so install "plasma".
>>107175720>>107175720>>107175720
>>107175695plasma is a package group, it acts like you manually typed in every package nameplasma-meta is a meta package which is just a tiny package that has all the KDE components depending on it. archinstall defaults to this one and it's probably better in the long run if you want to pull it out.