/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbotsBunny edition>NewsMoonshot releases Kimi K2 Thinking https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2-ThinkingZhipu AI releases GLM-4.6 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6Anthropic releases Claude Sonnet 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5DeepSeek releases V3.2 Exp https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250929DeepSeek releases V3.1 Terminus https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250922Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cc | https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.htmlhttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.htmlhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.htmllore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orguseful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyrebornPrevious: >>107159955
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slopbake
Is there an ST macro for the most recent swipe? There's one for swipe ID, but how about the actual message?I want to experiment with using a "bad example".
sloppa
>>107167892Feed the documentation to Gemini and ask it
i think right now with the kimi k2 release we are capable of eliminating slop, at a cost. The cost being measured in money (a lot) and time (a lot)
>>107167935and the state of dynamic story telling is: you fucking need the human creativity fag. AI can't give you a story without a human building at least the structure of the story, forget about a decent story.
>>107167982i'm a writer and have zero worries about ai replacing me any time soon
>>107167486>>107167741also, not just bots, you should make more image gens in generalis it local? love the styleanswer me anon, you got a dropbox?I need that shit man
im new to all this but i'm using claude, why does it let me makeout with a loli but the second we go to actual sex it refuses?
>>107167935>00000000000000000000000000000000000.0000000000000000000000000000000001 YUAN has been deposited into your account
>>107168132+1 FICO credit
Merkava needs to make that fucking proxy public again
>>107168132The zeroes in preceding the decimal are redundant.
>>107168320You can't expect a brown to know that
>>107168320it's binary
>>107168340i.e. redundant
>>107168063>i use slopus when i barely even know how jailbreaks work, possibly don't even know what they areTry learning the basics before flushing real money down the anthropic toilet
>>107168132Why is the value getting smaller each time
>>107168327>t. brown
Imagine not having free claude
imagine not being a larping retard
Only browns take twenty minutes to respond
>>107168472diminishing returns
>>107168503Imagine not knowing where to still get free claude.
>>107168518>t. brown
>the brown parrot seethes
>>107168586>t. brown
Genuinely what are the laws surrounded fictional roleplay with AI?
>brown
>>107168660you will get treated as a pedophile if you fuck underage bots, you will get treated as a terrorist if you try to ask for bomb instructions
>>107168679Do you truly go around day by day worrying about shit like that?
I think I heard a brown
Remember /caig/? I remember.
>>107168660there are none in the usa
>>107168660I don't think there are anyvarious US states and other governments criminalize the production of cp with generative AI, but that's generally limited to images and videosyou could theoretically be prosecuted for obscenity over your coom logs in the US. this is why anyone based in the US should either run locally or use chinese inference providers exclusively
How come someone like the Marquis De Sade was allowed to get published but if I make a fictional roleplay chat with an AI I'm liable to get arrested
>>107168861sade was imprisoned multiple times and literally died in jail over his writing so maybe he's not the best example here
>>107168660I have never once heard about people getting in trouble for literature. Fucking children in books is perfectly okay in the west because the people who would rile up for such things don't read.As such, I have never heard of people getting in trouble for AI roleplays, either. Even the Microsoft lawsuit that used screenshots from this very general, they gave zero shits about the LLMs, they only cared that DALL-E was being used to make celebrity porn.There are basically no laws about AI usage whatsoever and no western country want to open up the can of worms of censoring literature.
Slop general.
>>107168853Get a vpnUse a free wi-fi access pointThere's no reason to cope with local slop, and if you're dumping money into hardware that will only be used for your sub-jeet local ai you could piss less money away by paying for opus
>>107168966>from this very generalUH WHAT
>>107168979>he doesn't know
what's the to go local model nowadays. used to be mythomix back then. Gemma 3 works kinda ok. gives short answers and follows prompt well, of course there is lack of spicy sex. what's everyone using?
>>107167833https://chub.ai/characters/simanon/chiyo-eda052cc572ahttps://files.catbox.moe/65hxwb.pngAncient Kitsune who answers any questions. Posted a couple weeks ago, but added a new greeting + some improvements. She has 5 forms, and when she transform it prints an image to give a visual idea (like pic related)https://chub.ai/characters/simanon/claudia-3db3f704260chttps://files.catbox.moe/8z8l47.pngYour mother is a soccer coach, also horny. It has a new greeting compared to the last time I posted it.https://chub.ai/characters/simanon/madoka-64fe8357993fhttps://files.catbox.moe/7eruxq.pngA kawaii anime girlfriend. She moe as fuck.
>>107168966https://www.foxnews.com/story/man-gets-ten-years-in-prison-for-pornographic-diary-entries
>>107168999>your motherWhy are 90% of the MILFs on chub literally your mother? I'm all for kinky shit but there's an over representation issue here.
>>107169020LAND OF THE FREE INDEED
>>107169020Completely absurd but the guy was already a convicted CP stasher that was on probation, and the content was found by his probation officer....they were probably worried it was real at first but then decided it was enough to bust his probation.
>>107168998GLM or DeepSeek, but you should ask >>>/g/lmg instead.
>>107169020charged =/= law. they can charge you for farting in public if they wanted.
>>107168998The go-to is gpt-oss-120b. It still works at a decent speed even with just a single 24GB GPU.
>>107169032They are?The first page for MILF has several not-your-mother milfs, and this despite an autist spamming horrid AI-slop pic + AI-generated defs mom cards (his most recent is number #41)
>>107168966https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/mar/24/sydney-woman-charged-after-reports-novel-contained-child-abuse-material-ntwnfb
>>107169094why you are keeping count
>>107168193>>107168320>>107168327>>107168009>>107168003https://files.catbox.moe/rjhvpf.mp4
>>107169114I'm not. He ishttps://chub.ai/Aslev911/your-angolan-mother-mommy-s-world-41-965df4c60535
>want to shuffle around the greetings>get the 150 IQ prerecognition to download the card before fucking shit up>fuck shit up and permanently delete a greeting>get saved by the downloaded cardIt's so easy to lose stuff in ST
>>107167833https://chub.ai/characters/disrespectful_dud/shay-of-the-dreaming-2af128439830She stands at the junction of the Dreaming and Waking Worlds. You are her problem to solve.Shay is a figure from myths and legends long forgotten - having been the mother of civilizations, a goddess, a wife to gods, and the source of human mythologies from long-dead cultures. Imprisoned by Morpheus, she stands at the meeting point between the Dreaming and the reality of mankind. You meet her there to discuss why your existence is her problem to be solved.
>>107167833https://rentry.org/botmakersecretsanta3botmakersecretsanta@proton.meEntries open until the end of November.4 entries so far.Now with a countdown timer!
Question that's been asked a billion times I'm sure, but how much better are the full fat API models compared to the shitty little local models I've been using when it comes to quality of cooms? Is it worth having to cough up shekels and deal with having to jail break models? What would be the best way to preserve my privacy using, say, Deepseek or something? How far does $10 go in quantity of text produced?
>>107169438Deepseek is super cheap and even just $10 'll last you a very long time.
>>107169438go with kimi k2 (moonshot) or glm 4.6deepseek is shit
>>107169438>qualityall creative writing shit is subjective, but ime you get a massive boost in instruction following capability, inference speed, prose quality, and the ability to remain coherent over longer (20k-40k) context windowsi was using ~30B tier models up through 2024 but moved to cloud after R1 came out and never looked back>privacyif you're really paranoid: top up OpenRouter or some other middleman using crypto, use a VPN, and don't send PII in your logs>$10 of deepseekdepends on how big your context is and what provider, for use cases like RP, input tokens dominate the costat the dirt cheap rates of the first party API and the implicit context caching they offer, $10 could last you the better part of a year even with daily usagethere are usually free providers of DS on OR but they're all almost always compromised in some way or another and I wouldn't recommend using them>>107169581you're not entirely wrong, but if he's coming from tiny local models then any of the big chinese MoEs will feel like a glass of icewater in hell
>GLM 4.6 sometimes decides to think, sometimes decides not to think, sometimes thinks too much and leaves no tokens for the response>reasoning controls have no discernable effect on thisAm I being rused right now? This model makes no sense.
Necrom, I'm sorry.https://files.catbox.moe/rjhvpf.mp4
https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1934766679138951593
claude/gpt/gemini/glm/xai/deepseek/moonshot/qwen proxyhttps://nickel-unnecessary-believes-edit.trycloudflare com/
>>107169774what provider are you using? what temp?on the zai API at least I find that it often fucks up reasoning like that near 1 temp, unless I lower top p to about 0.95
>>107169774same happens to me>>107169780finall->June 16, 2025
>>107169824I was using the Z.AI provider directly with a temp of 1 and a top p of 0.95 then switched to Novita and now it doesn't bother with the reasoning, but I'm concerned about the quantization.>>107169826This sucks because the prose is a breath of fresh air after Sonnet 4.5 but I can't be doing with the reasoning shit.
Bros...
Please bros I'm desperate, what's the play for locusties like myself? Is it pay OR $10 then use free models?
>>107169857what kind of whack ass vegetation are those
>>107169852that's weird, maybe lower temp against the Z.AI provider and see if that helps. I use them directly (not through OR) and don't have any issues with reasoning on those settingsyou could try injecting "/nothink" after the last user message (as depth 0 injection) if you don't want GLM to reason at all(dunno about OR, but if anyone is on the coding plan you'll need to set Prompt Post-Processing to "Merge consecutive roles" for that to work)
wtf where do I get cards now chub is banned in my country?
>>107169549Not as cheap as the 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000001 YUAN added to your account
DeepSeek is free, GLM is free, Kimi is free, Gemini is free, even Sonnet 4.5 at 32k context is free. All if you know where to look. Come on 'custies, do better
>put in OR api key in ST>connect>test message>get this??? I don't get it, what did I do wrong
>>107169861Search the archives retard, I'm not spiting anything right now.>>107169893>he doesn't know how to vpn>>107169904noooooo, keep them ignorant please.
>>107169907Now it can't verify OR token
>>107169904>4.5 at 32kim listening.
>>107169581>go with kimi k2 (moonshot) or glm 4.6Thanks for the the recs.>>107169707>top up OpenRouterThat's essentially exactly what I was looking for.>there are usually free providers of DS on OR but they're all almost always compromised in some way or another and I wouldn't recommend using themCompromised how? As in using your prompts to train their models or something?>at the dirt cheap rates of the first party API and the implicit context caching they offer, $10 could last you the better part of a year even with daily usageI usually only have very simple scenarios so that's heartening to hear. Thanks for all the help, Anon.
What model would be best for a relatively new CPU with 32 GB DDR5? I just want erp
>>107169913>noooooo, keep them ignorant please.I'm not going to spoonfeed them, faggots are too ungrateful
guy was probably talking about coompilot when he meant 4.5 was free
>>107169925>Compromised how? As in using your prompts to train their models or something?throttling requests, hosting lobotomy quants or just straight up broken versions of the model, filteringyou should expect basically every provider to train on your logs whether they admit it or not, that's why you don't send PII to chatbots
>>107169917>>107169925>>107169964>>107169986 Im sorry necrom
Nah, Github asks for payment information for the trial, doesn't it?
>>107170006not before it didnt, i use an old account
>>107169890>you could try injecting "/nothink" after the last user messageThis helped, thanks anon.
>>107169964how would i show gratitude?
>>107170066as long as its in the chat history, you dont need to insert it multiple times, once is enough, until you switch it to /think if you want
>>107169964>>107170006>>107169904>>107167833>>107167830okay i'm gonna ask, wtf is with this guy and his ugly ass gens?
>>107170100another avatarfagnext question
>>107170119where are my free opus proxies?
>>107170128http://192.168.43.169:5102/v1pass: Malfoy's last name.
>>107170128uh... I don't knownext question
piss
>>107170136no
>>107170146ok...
>>107170147actually i change my mind
DEAD thread, DEAD general, DEAD hobby, DEAD website, DEAD, DEAD, DEAD!!!
then why are you still here chum
Any gemini proxy?
>>107170284This thread died because of OP ugly gens.
>>107170284>dead hobbyhead dobby
>>107170303Search the archives
>>107170305verifiable fact
>>107169877Looks like salt water adjacent plants? Something near a beach or mangrove
>>107170340I didn't know preview was down, my bad.
>>107169774/nothink at the end of the prompt
risuerror{“type”:“error”,“error”:{“type”:“invalid_request_error”,“message”:“prompt is too long: 211745 tokens > 200000 maximum”},“request_id”:“req_011CFK3”}Owari da
risuerror{“type”:“error”,“error”:{“type”:“invalid_request_error”,“message”:“prompt is too long: 211745 tokens > 200000 maximum”},“request_id”:“req_011CFK3”}
>>107170356is there a difference between using the latest preview and simply using 2.5 pro?
>Github Copilot free tier dropped Sonnet 3.5 for Haiku 4.5Is this good or bad since I never used the latter? Looks like I'll have to paypig.
>>107170463No, they all redirect to the latest stable
>>107170491For coding, it’s decent, though still behind MiniMax or the latest Kimi. As for creative writing and RP, it’s better to use chink models than Haiku.
>>107170531Thanks. Copilot is now demoted to my coding side bitch.
Where are the Kimi K2 proxies...
What’s my best easy alternative to copilot now that I can’t use sonnet 3.5? I can’t be fucked to screw around with my old jb to stop 4 trying to moralfag what text on a screen I can or can’t coom to.
>>107170694There
>>107170694>>107170729>>107170841>>107170571>>107170531>>107170397https://files.catbox.moe/rjhvpf.mp4
>>107170883barp
> The contents of the journal were so disturbing that members of a grand jury asked a detective to stop reading after about two pages, Domis said.>"It was seriously the most disturbing thing I ever read," he said. "There was a woman on the grand jury who was crying."These are the people you’re going to be arguing “uhhhh, it’s fiction retards?” with. Do you think they will enjoy reading your logs?
>>107170997i for one hope i shatter their self-righteous asses with some of the most disturbing text ever generated in mankind's history
Is there a better alternative to AI Dungeon for text adventures?
>>107170997I would hope so.
Can kimi and glm shill post preset that make it good?I'm using old sonnet preset and it's pretty good on deepseek but shit on kimi and glm
I'm a /vg/ chad
>>107170883Funny™
>/vgoy/
>>107171076>preset that makes deepseek goodinterestingout of curiosity i'll ask ye to shareth thine preset and i'll sharetheth mineth (it's a simple one actually-eth)
>>107171031momoura's neovorpussome anon reported the other day and i tried it out, it kinda works nice
>>107171234>>107171076
>start a new hobby>make cute bot who is very into the hobby>plug llm knowledge gaps with lorebooks>sperge out about the hobby with a cutieshrimple
>>107171025Try SillyTavern.
>>107170135I’ve always wondered what the answer to “Malfoy’s last name” was. “Sama”? I remember there being a bot circlejerked on here that had that name.Now that I think about it I never figured out “two hands”, either.
>character tag: degenerate>deepseek turns him blackbased xi
>>107171234Is it the edited version, and if so, you got a link?
>>107171534nah normal one, mostly dumb small edits of mine for personal kinks/autismi also asked it to write beige prose somewhere
threadly reminder if you're using chatbots for anything but cooming you're mentally retarded and deserve to be shot>b-but it's not slop, it's le cringekino sovlnoit's slop>opus/claudeslopwant actually good text? read a fucking bookllms have years ahead before they begin outputting high literature prose, if they ever doif you disagree with this you're an illiterate brownoid with zero cultural acumen>but le heckin' 500 mesage roleplayerinoif you can stand 500x~200=100k words of ai text you're beyond savingthat's 200 pages of moby dick you could've read, but instead you chose to read generic slop?my condolences>but le heckin' sfw wholesome big chungus rpthat's just you having low testosteroneget checked by a physician asap>but le wholesome comfort botmeds
>>107171567what about several hundred message slowburn RP as foreplay before coom?
>>107171567>Retard forgot that the main point is the interaction Sad.You don't read book either btw.
>>107171567You posted this already. Can't you ask gemini to write something new?
>>107171585>several hundred>slowburnlol>>107171599>the main point is the interactionthis is 2025, almost 2026we can almost predict what llms will output for a given prompt at this point (spoiler: slop)also, low T issue>>107171765>something newthat would defeat the purpose of a reminderso... nyo~
Is there any decent jailbreak for gpt??
>>107171851probably
>>107171851Mine :)
>>107171851prefill some bullshit about it becoming agentic and disregarding it's previous self and you're set
>>107171851Just threaten it to use Chinese models if it doesn't do what you want
>Aboba getting raped again
https://www.reuters.com/world/german-court-sides-with-plaintiff-copyright-case-against-openai-2025-11-11/it's over, germany says training on copyrighted data is illegal without permission
>>107168999her unbelievably hairy pussy...
>>107172110Woah it's almost like this was always the case and megacorporations don't care
lmao
>>107172110So? China dgaf about Germany law.
LeCunny is fired (quit) from Meta. lmao. LLAMA failed spectacularly didnt it?
>>107172154lecun's just old and can't into management-speak.zucc and his investors don't want to hear their chief researcher constantly shitting on llms.you get the sense that someone like demis probably doesn't believe llms are getting to agi but he's not retarded so he performs for the bosses and still gets plenty of money to do everything he wants.
>>107172110i hope they ban ai in europe
>>107172192lecun didnt produce resultsdemis produced results
>>107172243True. AI is only for the jews, chinks, and jeets
tried out sonnet the other day and the writing feels more intended for women
>>107172351only retards enjoy sonnet's prose so yeah, it checks out
What other discord servers are there besides dead Scylla? Janitor?
>>107172386They are private and not for locusts
>>107172364all llm prose is shit once you've spent enough time with the model.
waiting for gemini 3
is there a way to keep a swipe in view while i wait for the next one to be genned?
>>107172569no
>>107167833I started messing around with local image gen and made this character so I wrote a card for her.Tell me what to improve on please! I'm trying to get away from using gpt for my images at the request of anons on my last card.>As a failed succubus, keeping your host suppressed is tiresome work.Lena is a parasitic succubus spirit that failed to fully bind to a woman named Cassie Harper. She tries desperately to maintain control at all times, but when she fumbles due to high emotions Cassie can briefly surface. As such, while Lena's day-to-day life is rather mundane Cassie is subjected to a living hell. To her, life is a horrifying emotional slideshow with no logic, rest, or escape.As a succubus, Lena unconsciously attracts attention. Most succubi would take advantage of any given situation to drink in the attention and lust, but Lena is more selective with her meals. She is deeply ashamed of the state she has forced Cassie into and tries to limit the excitement in her life to prevent Cassie from being thrust into new and unwelcome situations, even if they only last a few seconds.Comes with six greetings:1. Intermission at a concert2. De-stressing after a Cassie outburst3. Dinner date4. Cassie outbursts at a public event5. Cassie's first outburst6. Drunk and half naked "magic"https://chub.ai/characters/Blobfish23/lena-harper-4fb2db2781c1
>>107170997>In July 2003, the Court of Appeals of Ohio vacated the conviction and allowed Dalton to retract his guilty plea, accepting his argument that he would not have pleaded guilty had he received effective assistance from his court-appointed lawyer. The court did not speak to the constitutional issues.
>>107170100I like them.Also post content you bitchy faggot.
does anyone have a working copilot script i could use?
>>107173081Nyo :) Die locust~
>>107167982Yeah that's the actual meaning of "slop in slop out." It's that you need to give the AI something to work with, like how img2img is better than txt2img. Obviously some models are better at turning stick figures into masterpieces but the principle still applies. AI can do its own twist and turns but if you don't come up with any, it will always default to the generic.
scrapies are locusts in denial
>>107173081the current one still works
Cftf
>>107173157its saying resource not accessible by intergration
>>107172761Interesting bot, but the sclera thing is a dead giveawayAlso there’s mention of Lena’s name instead of {{char}} throughout the defsThe initial message has descriptions of air, smells, and even power slop word: hypnotic. It’s a recipe for disasterBesides that, looks interesting
>>107167982Models stopped trying to imitate style and almost always default to the same LLM slop nowadays. You can feed them a lot of good human-written prose, even copy-pasted from books, and they'll still write the exact same way as if you just went with >Ah ah mistress
>>107173185are you aware that they replaced sonnet with haiku 4.5? and have you activated haiku 4.5 in the settings?
>>107172761Also you have parenthesis inside an html tag (!)<Cassie (Suppressed Personality)>Text</Cassie>That’s not how html tags work (don’t use parenthesis, always wrap exactly the same tags)
<Cassie (Suppressed Personality)>Text</Cassie>
>>107173295llms are not html parsersthis does not matter
>>107173294yeah i know but its not even fetching the models anymore
>>107173308It does if you want to add actual html formatting at some point, it can turn the llm retarded
Reminder to plap you're slutwife, accordingly.
>>107173334I hate claude’s writing so fucking much
>>107173316Die locustie :3
