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>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch? 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
Redstone "Ray Regeneration" is in Black Ops 7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx2q4xmEY64
New Steam hardware

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

Im so scared to get an OLED because of burn-ins and constantly having to babysit it from burn-ins with software and standby and firmware updates all that shit.

I still have my IPS PG279Q and almost want to stay with IPS if it means I can have a monitor that still works in 6 years without having to worry about burning. Are there even new IPS monitors in 2025?

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>babby's first OLED

>>107216806
Not sure whether to get a RX 9070XT for £550 or a RTX 4080 for £650

>>107216971
if you game only Radeon, if you render stuff and game go for Radeon.

>nicotroon thread

>>107216934
They don't make high-end IPS gaming monitors these days.
Your current IPS monitor might have better image quality than the newer 180Hz monitors.
Good 4K IPS gaming monitors cost as much as discounted 1440p OLEDs.

The high-end PG27AQNR 1440p IPS monitor with GSync Pulsar is probably cancelled.

>>107216971
Get the cheaper one if you're not sure.

>>107217001
But as a counter, I actually like DLSS
>>107217009
Yeah the performance delta between the two is small, but I want to get close to double perf from my RTX 3070.
Think it's 85%~ vs 95~ performance gain.

>>107217013
If you like your upscaled and fake frames then you should get your medicine instead.

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>>107217044
Nigga... even AMD Steve can't deny that DLSS looks good
>INB4 this is FSR2
DLSS actually has game support.

>>107217044
>yeah bro just don't play any modern games because they all require DLSS and FG which are both AI SLOPPA HENCE BAD PLEASE DON'T BUY NVIDIA AAAHHHH AMD'S GRAPHICS DIVISION IS LITERALLY GOING BANKRUPT HELP THEM
nyo

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>>107217044
But it's okay when Valve is shilling 4K 60FPS performance with FSR3 (not 4) for their Steam Machine with an 8GB Radeon 7600M variant.
https://www.digitalfoundry.net/features/hands-on-with-steam-machine-valves-new-pcconsole-hybrid

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Why do people buy amd processors? Are they stupid?

What is /pcbg/‘s consensus on teamgroup ssd’s

>>107217107
I don't know but I'll be sitting on my tuned 14900K until Titan Lake.

An angel came to me in a dream and told me that nico poster threads are not legitimate and should be ignored
>>107217156

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>>107217107
>Buy a 500 dollar mobo with a socket that will be abandoned
>a gorillion dollars on 8000 megatransfers ram just to give your cope ultra cpu a chance
>All to get less than 10 percent better score on cinebench and still worse gaming performance
Intards are actually braindead.

>>107217107
Being a fanboy of either Intel or AMD is moronic. Just get whatever is the best deal at the time.

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>>107217107
9950X IS GARBO
9950X3D is good for gaymin

>>107217195
intel INVENTED x86 so they're the default
the only reason we're buying AMD nowadays is because Intel decided that copying ARM and having both normal cores and tranny cores in the same CPU was a smart decision when no OS, game or workload needs or even supports that

>>107217171
It should be fine; find the official endurance rating (TBW) for the specific model.
Use Borecraft's SSD spreadsheet to know whether the SSD has DRAM if you need this spec.

This 4TB DRAMless Nextorage drive is a good secondary drive for US customers; they're a legitimate brand.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pxHp99/nextorage-nem-pac-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-nem-pac4tbn-sym

>>107217222
We are buying AMD because Intel is busy driving themselves bankrupt and the only way they can make competitive CPUs is to overclock the fuck out of them to Bulldozer levels of crazy.

>>107216806
>Workstation: Radeon AI PRO R9700
least obvious nicotroon thread
this should be instaban on the same level as cp

>>107217230
i still dont know what dram is

>>107217272
>Bulldozer
you now remember that failure of a product line, LMAO

>>107217371
>i still dont know what dram is
https://sabrent.com/blogs/storage/dram-hmb
https://phisonblog.com/dram-or-not-the-difference-between-dram-and-dram-less-ssds-and-why-it-matters/

>bought 9070xt
>it's crashing
>games get driver timeout
Why can't anything work just Once...

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So I managed to flash an RTX 5080 BIOS into my Zotac, and now the cards are even louder due to the elevated RPM at 30% fan speed.
I used the Astral 5080 .rom which is supposed to be the quietest, and the fans still too loud for my liking. I'm gonna try the ASUS Noctua bios and see how the card behaves. The minimum fan speed lock is bullshit. I can't believe a thousand dollar MSRP product has such a nonsensical feature.

>PSU brand

Who the best?

>>107217473
what program shows the data like that?
sorry if this is common knowledge just starting

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wtf is this real?

>>107216806
wow how is it floating is that ai why are there holes in the case?

>>107217569
Unfortunately, the allies won, so I can't read it.

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What went wrong with rdna4? Why are buyers returning them and buying a 5070 ti???

>>107217522
flower power

>>107217540
Most likely RivaTuner Statistics Server (RTSS).

>>107217522
Use Cybenetics or Hardware Busters (they're run by the same editor/lead tester) PSU reviews to find what's good for you.
They disclose the PSU OEMs like CWT, FSP, SeaSonic, etc.

Fractal's new PSU looks interesting, built by Seasonic with Fractal's 140mm Momentum fans.
The irony is that Fractal didn't bother to get Cybenetics certifications for these new Ion 3 PSUs, it's the only con listed by KitGuru.
https://www.kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/zardon/fractal-ion-3-gold-1000w-psu-review/

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>I have to stare at the arrived parts in the corner for the next 3 weeks until I can get the cpu on black friday

>>107217781
Black Friday was cancelled. Just buy now.

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>>107217781
>waiting for black scamday
lmaooo

>>107217807
waiting for the 9800x3d to go sub $430

Retard question.
Why do motherboards have 2 good ram slots and 2 bad ram slots?
They all say "PUT YOUR RAM HERE FIRST!".
Just make them all good?

>>107217822
And I'm waiting for Ram to half in price.

>>107217816
>>107217822
It's already too late for most things until probably late-spring 2026.
>Retailers have sales throughout the year
>Around late fall, prices go back to MSRP
>Only for retailers to discount them again
>"What a deal!"
>You only ever buy what they want you to buy by virtue of sales prices
>Which is usually older stock or unpopular items

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>>107217835
>>107217855
it's not ram you goobers, did you read what I said?

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>>107217834
It's probably more for legacy reasons, or advanced users with specific use-cases.
You still can absolutely populated all four dimms, but you may not be able to run them at "full speeds."

More RAM modules = more work managing them.

>>107217875
Yes.

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>>107217875
Processors typically don't go on sale--any discounts are usually decided by the manufacturer.

And this Black Friday sentiment is well known and documented for some time now among several different industries
>"Do you even retail?"

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>>107217178
I'm happy with my 14700K.

OLED tv's are too bright, even at 0% brightness whenever a mostly white image appears it practically blinds me.

>>107217540
MSI and RTSS
you go into the settings for MSI, choose what you want displayed (GPU temp, usage, etc), then click override group name and write down what you want your group to be - in my case it's voltage, core clock, memory clock etc. you need to do this for every single data point you want monitored

>>107217927
Dracula...

>>107217899
>>107217913
it's already $449 on micro center just shut the fuck up already im going to get a 9800 for $430 or less on black friday weekend and you're going to kiss my ass

>>107217540
Whatever you do don't track power or power %, it rapes your computer to track those for some reason.

>>107217974
I'll admit I am pretty sensitive to light but I don't think I'm that abnormal. I do use it in a dark room though, I'm sure it's not so bad if you have open windows and lights on.

>>107217991
>Waiting to save a whole $20
>Waiting so you can ford through all the normies flocking to stores for the "sales"

A dork and his wallet...

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>>107216806
>tfw still on my R5 2600, GTX 1080 PC
>bought 1440p IPS monitor last month to replace my ancient 1200p monitor
>surprisingly runs most games that i like at 1440p 60fps high (except BG3)
I guess i won't upgrade my PC for a few years bros

>>107216934
Not a single person seems to be going back to IPS after they go OLED.

>>107218066
is this video real?

>>107217781
>100% CPU bottleneck
Impressive.

>>107218075
Yeah, it's my cat.

>looking for small monitors to pair with my mini PC project im working on
>a 7" monitor for a raspberry pi costs more than a 22" monitor
what in the actual fuck?

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my current computer has 6MB L3
my new computer will have 96MB L3

>>107218155
Your mom let's you have 96MB L3 Cache???

>>107218155
you don't need more than 32 MB

>>107218179
poorfag cope

>>107218197
name something that requires more than 32MB cache
you cant

>>107218212
rendering a photo of you're mom

>>107218197
you're free to want more, but you really don't need more to do stuff with your peecee

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>Hardware unboxed has finally admited the 5070 is a good gpu
It's unironically over for radeon isn't it?

>>107218286
>2070 to Titan RTX: 2304/4608 or 50%
>3070 to 3090Ti: 5888/10752 or 55%
>4070 to 4090: 7680/16384 or 47%
>5070 to 5090: 6144 (lmao)/21760 or 28%
literally a 5050ti/5060 tier core config but sold at 5070's price

>>107218380
you're the only person who cares about core count on a GPU, bwo...

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Why do different GPU AIBs use different baseline voltage?
I've flashed a few bioses onto my card and the voltage seems to differ a bit for every single model. Some go for 1.075, others are good with .975, yet the boost clocks are mostly the same.

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>>107217107
Why are you complaining about people buying worse products?

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>>107218380
You can thank AMD and their bitch-ass 9060 XTs.
NVIDIA can continue to spec these GPUs however they want as long as AMD can't even pretend to offer any resistance.

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>>107218434
why do people buy the worse product for the same/more money? Are they stupid or something?

some people say upscaled 4K looks better than native 1440p, is that true ?

I have a 9070 XT and I'm deciding on a monitor

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>>107218628
We should actually be thankful to brainwashed gamers for causing the cost inflation of inferior CPU

>>107218671
Only if you're far away. Like sitting on a couch in front of a TV.
If you're in front of a PC and upscaling to 4k it looks really bad.

>>107218671
FSR doesn't
DLSS it's a draw, some things better some things worse

Who is even building lately? Prices have tripled for ram and nvme is only going up in price.

>>107218771
I just built, paid like 180 euros for 2x16 6000CL30 RAM and 160 for the SN850X

>>107218179
yes I do
t. C programmer

>>107216806
Why didn't this OP mention Nvidia for recs?

Is it a faggot tranny?

>>107218466
I do agree that AMD is not helping the situation unlike in the past, where they compensated their inferior performance by massively undercutting the competition especially in the mid-range performance segment.

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>>107218882
OP is someone who had to settle for a 9070 XT, that's why they're obsessed with NVIDIA drivers.

>>107218882
You know why

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This is outside my expertise so i come to you hat in hand asking for advice.
Picrel is a random pic out of pcpp that shows the case i picked.
I went with a 360mm aio so the top is covered with the fans in exhaust. Front is covered with 3 fans as intake.
However i would like to fill the remaining 6 slots with fans.
The pic shows 2 above the psu shroud, those are set as exhaust in the photo, should those be intake to blow on the gpu?
And also you can see the side panel has a mount for another 3x120mm fans, i would like to mount those, should those be as intake or exhaust?
And finally i dont see an exhaust on the top rear of the case, dont you use those with AIOs?
I could use any and all help

>>107218671
On the same screen size? No. If you go up a size, arguably. But sometimes upscaled looks better than no upscaling because of shoddy AA implementation. But DLAA always looks better.

What's the word on 90 degree 12v-2x6 cables? You're not supposed to bend the straight ones too much close to the connector, seems like the 90 degree ones shouldn't exist. Yet they seem pretty widespread even by manufacturers so I guess the way they are crimped is safe? I took measurements for my current case with a straight cable and it's almost assuredly going to be leaning up the inside of my case.

>>107218930
Bottom intake for the video card is fine.
The three extra side fans might harm overall component temperatures; 4~6 fans are more than enough.

>>107218970
Bending a cable is not the same as having a straight cable connect to a terminal angled at 90°

I boughted the aoc q27g40xmn
Response time is eh and the stand sucks, but I play slow-paced games mostly and will be using a third party stand anyway
Did I fuck up????

>>107218970
Corsair's PSU lead covers this topic in his video; it's basically cable & PSU manufacturers playing things safe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-7LZvVSL5U

>>107218930
Why are you adding a shit ton of fans?
You do know the more fans you add the more heat is also added in the case? Fans also produce heat.
Back of the case on the top right won't work, your AIO is covering it.
Back of the case might or might not work, depends on the depth. You need to look at the spec sheet.
Bottom fans are kinda dumb. If it's intake then that's a long way for cold air to enter your fan. If it's exhaust then you're blowing hot air in your PSU.

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I got an AIO (MSI MAG CORELIQUID A13) for free when I bought my 9800X3D; should I use the AIO or buy an air cooler? I’m a little worried about leaks.

>>107218970
I still don't trust those 90 degree connectors. There was a thing a couple years back where they were burning. Do you really want to risk it?

>>107219026
Buy a tower cooler if you're worried about leaks and resell the AIO.
Leaks are unlikely to happen, though.

I want to sell my PC to for a low-power mini itx build. Should I just keep the RAM?

>>107219026
Use the AIO. If it was leaking then the liquid inside should have been outside already.

>>107219037
How unlikely?
And what air cooler would you recommend, if there is one?

>>107218987
>>107219015
Makes sense.

>>107219032
From what I was reading up on, that was from the angled adapters, not cables. Different set of circumstances electrically.

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>>107219032
It was the 90° adapters, not the cables, that had to be recalled.
The fact that the cables continue to be sold by reputable brands (including PSU manufacturers) shows they're a safe & viable business.

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>>107219058
>From what I was reading up on, that was from the angled adapters, not cables. Different set of circumstances electrically.
If you want to risk it, then go ahead. I spent too much money on my GPU, I'm not risking it so I just bought a bigger case.
Or, better yet buy a vertical mount and PCIe riser for your case.

>>107219044
I haven’t checked for a leak and the box came almost a week ago. Shouldn’t the water have evaporated already if it came out? Would I be able to find a leak by moving the AIO around and seeing if there’s any spillage?

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>>107219055
How would I have exact figures of AIO leakages?
Asetek's been making these since the 2000s.
Noctua's AIO is going to use Asetek's 9th-gen pump next year.

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>>107218986
>The three extra side fans might harm overall component temperatures; 4~6 fans are more than enough.
I just saw pic rel on the corsair web for this case, so thats what i was going for.
>>107219023
>Why are you adding a shit ton of fans?
The case has the spots for them and i wanted to add a subdued rgb light to them, don't know sounds like something fun to do.
Picrel for what im aiming for (but also with the fans on the psu shroud)
I just want to ensure how the side panel ones should be (seem to be exhaust on that photo) and the ones above the psu (i assumed intake).

>>107219106
>I just want to ensure how the side panel ones should be
Top radiator and the single fan in the back should be exhaust. Everything else should be intake. I prefer positive air pressure in the case.

>>107219123
that was my gut feeling too but i thought i should ask
hopefully some other anons chime in

Thank you

Asrock killed my 9800X3D.

Is Gigabyte X870 Aorus better than B850 MSI Tomahawk? They are basically same price here.

>>107219178
>Asrock killed my 9800X3D
what happened?

>>107219178
>>107219189
also id go with b850 tomahawk, that's what I bought for $189. good deal. gigabyte is retarded.

>>107219189
https://en.overclocking.com/asrocks-x870-riptide-dies-burning-a-7800x3d/

>>107219202
do you have any recourse from asrock? that's like the better half of a grand because they fucked up

>>107219222
lol
lmao
no
They're blaming the customer for not updating the BIOS. Even though you're not expected to update the BIOS to have a working product.

>>107219189
It was working perfectly with zero issues for almost half a year. Then suddenly died on youtube. Just black screen, all lights on and red light showing CPU problem. No kind of troubleshooting helped. I was thinking about giving my B850 Steel Legend a second chance but living knowing it can kill CPU at any moment with no prior signs seems like a big nope.

>>107219245
Oh and it started on 3.20 BIOS, updated to 3.30 and 3.40. Ignored 3.50 since it seemed like a very minor update.

>>107219240
>>107219245
>>107219259
wtf.. why not just say you updated it?

My pcie3 gen3 OS drive is running at 1x speed. I tried to swap the drive is another one but it still 1x.
It is dying right?

>>107219293
thats not how it works

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Tell me how it fucking work then.
Top is from May on old PC. Bottom is right now on current PC. The 1GB is the PCIE3 OS drive.
I already swap slot with 990 and it still persisted.

Nah, you're too retarded. Me explaining it won't help you.
Just read your motherboard's manual. You'll figure it out.

>>107219365
NTA, but share your board info.
The info seems fine as it's running at the same maximum 8.0 GT/s.

Overthinking anon here again wondering about "toolless" panels. they seem shit, little plastic push/push tabs or magnets or whatever instead of traditional screws on the back? why is this even a thing:(
I liked antec back in the day and was thinking of getting a Flux until i saw that, start looking into other cases and alot of them have these.alot of cases seem thin, flimsy, chinky, and cheap compared to the thick as fuck steel case im used to..
does anyone make a quality case these days?

>>107219279
First one was not me. That 7800x3d issue is different. But looks like all that crap about Asrcok killing CPUs was true.

>>107219199
Searching online it looks like aorus is having less issues in general.

>>107219409
>calling something shit without trying it out
classic /pcbg/

>>107219397
Top is x570 prime pro
Bot is x870 Tomahawk

Anyone used a Phantek Entoo with multiple GPUs and an EATX board?

>>107219460
I use the Pro 2 for dual GPUs and an EATX.
Does that count?

>>107219390

If you try to be smart arse about lane splitting you are idiot. I already said I swapped the slot with 990 and it's still run at 1x while 990 retained its speed

>>107219431
I said they seem shit. watching reviews they mention the panel can pop of or bulge if the cables are too thick / poorly managed. my current case right side panel bulges a tad, but it doesnt matter as I can just slide it on and screw it down. it seems like a worse way to secure the panel, as petty as that might seem.
the metal on most cases seems very thin too, my current case is made of thick steel and weighs around 50lb. I feel like on alot of these modern cases I could stub my toe on them and it would crumple up like a soda can

I have a Ryzen 7700 and I intend to overclock the living shit out of it. And yes, my mobo is strong enough for that (B650 Gaming Plus WiFi).
Do I need an AIO? Or is some top-of-the-line Noctua cooler enough?

>>107219485
It literally doesn't matter, nothing matters. Your case isn't going to magically explode apart.

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>>107219494
maybe youre right..

>>107219422
Did you update to latest bios?

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>>107216806
>Budget: RX 9060 XT 8GB, Arc B580
>1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB
>1440p & 4K: RX 9070 XT
>Workstation: Radeon AI PRO R9700

>>107219433
It might be newer power-saving features kicking in, run a benchmark to check performance.

>>107219492
>Do I need an AIO
Even without an oc you can't cool an all core workload, so yes
Only suckers use a tower cooler in 2025

>>107219575
>buy a water cooler for a low end 65w gamer cpu

???

>>107219429
mostly because not many people buy gigabyte. Its generally a choice between ASUS, which are on my personal tech-blacklist for life, and MSI. MSI are jank but their higher-end boards are solid.

>>107219409
everyone HATED the screws bro, thats fucking why. I have an antec flux pro and its fine, there is an issue with my cable management which has caused a bit of flex in the rear panel but it all works well enough, dust-proof seal etc.

>>107219178
>i bought a shitty third-rate motherboard with a terrible reputation for killing cpus, and it killed my high-end cpu
>what cheap motherboard should i replace it with?
you aren't good at learning lessons are you?

>>107219026
use the AIO, AIO's are far more likely to fail from the pump itself dying, before any seals degrade and water leaks out.

>>107219962
>not many people buy gigabyte
Gigabyte is the top seller after Asus. And their budget boards are definitely better than Asus’, which are the worst in the market.

Be honest, will there be Black Friday deals anywhere? I’ve been watching my build since April and the lowest I’ve seen it go is $1450. Everything is so god damned expensive now.

>>107219962
What'd ASUS do to you anon?

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>>107220065
There are black friday deals right now, many forget but a food steamer is an essential part of the modern pc.

>>107220065
theres a black month going on in europe
you know, a store goes "hey what if we start handing out sales before other stores so people buy from us and then they spend all their moneyh with us instead of other retailers" and then everyone follows

>>107220084
NTA but Asus is a pretty shady company. Their flagship products are great but they have questionable customer support and have engaged in many anti-consumer practices in the past.

>>107220020
who the hell hated the screws? you can get a cheap pack of the knurled hand screw versions in silver or black if it really bothers you. can use them on PCIE screws too

>>107220020
Are you saying my MSI B850 Tomahawk MAX is going to wreck my 9800X3D?

>>107220065
I wait and I'm always disappointed so this year I decided not to.

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>>107220084
their malware app is cancer, and;
>they sold me on their bullshit 7th gen gamer phone
>that was slower and jankier to use than a samsung s23 ultra, released 8months later
>its epic high-spec screen completely died to a small drop that should NOT have broken it (never broken a phone screen in 25+ years, before or since)
>i had to pay ~40% of the overpriced phones original value to replace it.
>they only have a small % of repairers in my entire country that are allowed to do the job, i thought i had gotten overquoted on price initially from the authorised repairer
>7x different mobile phone repairers turned me away, i wasted an entire day running around my city to popular phone repair stores being turned away immediately
>the local Asus repair centre, very close to me, only repairs their laptops, gpus+monitors, not their phones. I called personally because i couldn't believe it.
>it took a month for it to be shipped to another part of the country, fixed and sent back
>when they did the diagnosis, they also held my phone to ransom, because if i didn't accept the bill they quoted, they 'can't promise the phone will be operational if they send it back'
>there was also an additional wait, because there was no parts in my country at the time either

after that experience, i'll get fucked in the arse by MSI's CEO before i consider buying another fucking asus product, also the last mobo i bought from them had dogshit ram slots that required insane force to insert the sticks, unpleasant to build with.

>>107220065
the entire month of November has deals, tons of stuff has been on sale or has bundle deals and such. GPUs are at MSRP, cases are cheap, PSUs are cheap, mobos are cheap/ on sale. obviously sucks about the ram / storage situation but everything else is fine. alot of places do extended returns into the end of janurary or have black friday sales protection by default, worst case just buy stuff now and can always return it if you find a better deal. Im not jewish or gay enough to do that myself

>>107220192
its not the motherboard anon, its your attitude towards how you spend your money on parts. I'm sure it'll be fine, probably.

>>107220215
NTA, but yeah.

>>107219026
I got the same AIO bundle deal, I thought about selling it and getting a cheap air cooler but fuck it thats too much effort. just gonna use the AIO, plus if we end up putting in a hotter CPU down the road itll be covered. pretty sure most AIO warranties cover damage caused due to leaks if you are really worried about that, but they are pressure tested at the factory and have a very low failure rate

>>107220167
>but they have questionable customer support and have engaged in many anti-consumer practices in the past.
That's literally every single brand.
>MSI
Their motherboards in the past was horrible. I think it was their B450 and Z730 that was poorly made. Of course they didn't honor the warranty.
Their Gaming X GPU had really bad coil whine.
Pretty sure they also sold directly to crypto miners during the shortage. I'm not sure if that was them or Asus.
>Gigabyte
GPUs were cracking and while I believe it's entirely the customer's fault for not using the bracket it was them that mainly had this issue. It was like they used cheaper materials for the PCB.
>Asus
Motherboards and GPUs failing and them refusing the warranty. If you send int a broken GPU they would purposely break it to void the warranty. Even if you provide pictures.
Sometimes they would even send back refurbished items rather than new items when you need a replacement. People found out because they tried to register the item they got and it said it was already registered.

And all these brands all have bloatware associated with their products. And I believe their newer GPUs use liquid metal which seeps out and causes a short.
What I'm saying is, all companies are shit. Just pick one that's less shit AT THE MOMENT.

>Dual tower: A620 PRO SE

Fell for the meme recommendation.

My ordered one was totally bent, not the fins, the whole fucking cooling block is bent to one side.
Packaging is totally fine, meaning it wasn't a transport issue.

>>107220259
>she bought used
oh no no no

thoughts on grabbing a be quiet pure power 12 m 850w? its got an A on the tier list. worth it to spend a bit more on a superflower leadex VII?

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>>107216955
baste

I paid $400 for ram today

>>107220286
They're both good. If you can save a bit of money then get the bequiet.

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>>107217781
But just think how comfy you'll be when it comes in.

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>>107220268
Nope, brand new

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>>107220297
>

can I return my cpu/gpu if I lost the silicon lottery?
microcenter btw

>Refurbished ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR X870E HERO
>$550
>$450 with black friday coupon

Dunno if worth...

>>107220422
Maybe if it were the Apex.
But people return underperforming XOC boards.

>>107219607
It isn't 65 Watts with PBO enabled, buddy. It's close to 150 with +200MHz and -30 Kurwa Optimizer.
The worst part is the lid being too thick, if it wasn't for that any 4-heatpipe tower cooler would be enough.

>>107220490
Tachyon/force benches higher numbers

>>107220366
sure just tell them you couldn't get it to work

>>107220084
NTA, but almost all ASUS products that I've ever had since, like, 2001, were quite shitty. The only exception, ironically, is an N100 mobo.

>>107220366
It's not worth binning CPUs for a daily system.
There are individual cores, IMC, and Infinity Fabric clocks all playing a role.

>try using FreeSync
>stuttering in game is so bad it hurts my eyes
>look at overlay
>Frametime graph looks like a comb
I don't get what I'm doing wrong here I thought Freesync/G-Sync was supposed to be a good thing

>>107220593
You're doing it wrong, then. Check if there' slave generation enabled or something.

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>>107220256
Gigabyte fucked up by cutting a huge hole around the PCB where the weight of the heatsink pushes onto the PCB making it a weaker design than later revisions of the same board and boards from other manufacturers

>>107220643
Also check if AMFM is enabled. Sometimes shit like that is enabled by default in Adrenaline.

DESU, Nwordia, as much as I hate it for being greedy AI fucks, has never allowed stuff like that to happen. Then again, they fucked up in many other ways.

>>107220692
Nothing's enabled in the software side aside from that thing that forces FSR4 is the game uses FSR3 and FreeSync in the monitor settings. When I look at the Hz overlay in the monitor itself it keeps dropping down to 60-70, too

>>107220593
Freesync implementation is not standardized and varies a lot
Do you find other people having the same issue with the same monitor?

>>107220593
freesync sucks ass, the good version of this (gsync) lost

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idk what case to get

>>107220800
fractal meshify 3

>>107220800
lian li lancool 216

>>107220800
Lancool 217 if you are a woodCHAD, meshify 3 XL if you absolutely need your parts to be sub zero temperatures.

>>107218155
If you weren't poor you wouldn't have the 2500K, and would have the 8MB L3 2600K instead.

>>107220881
Jokes on you anon has a 7600k

>>107220800
I got the FRAME 4000D to rub my feet on the front

>>107220888
There's no way the 7th gens have 6MB L3.
Intel experimented with 128MB L4 cache with the 5000 series, ain't no way they went back to L3 at 6MB while dropping L4.
Ain't no way.

>>107220881
>>107220888
>>107220898
it's an i5 4460

going to do my first build that has RGB, I was hoping to use openRGB or something similar so that I dont need to use 50 different bloatware apps installed since Ill be mix and matching different manufactures. If something isnt on the support devices list on openrgbs website, does that mean its 100% not going to work?
in terms of RGB fans, do I need a hub? do cases that come with preinstalled fans usually have their own hub included ? anythingthing else I should look out for / be aware of with this shit?

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>>107220898
yes, yes they did

>>107220963
the supported device list on their site is always very outdated. new devices merged onto their gitlab don't tend to apepar on the website for months
yes a hub would be ideal since the standard argb cables are very messy and annoying to manage. cases do come with hubs sometimes but they're usually pretty basic and don't support software controlled rgb

>>107216806
What case is that? And does it come with a mesh side panel?

>>107221009
- NZXT H Series H5 Flow
- No

Im slightly confused why fractal seems to be so ahead of everyone else when it comes to pc case design

Will I regret buying a GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 5070 Ti Eagle OC?

>>107221036
no

>>107221030
its the white man's case company

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>>107220800
If you had money you would not fuck around and just just get the best.

>>107221053
>open grill
>ash wood
dang you can even grill some chicken while you're gaming

>>107221036
If you're in the US, Walmart's been selling the PNY 5070 Ti for $700.

>>107221006
>the supported device list on their site is always very outdated
fair enough, hopefully everything justwerks then

>they're usually pretty basic and don't support software controlled rgb
i assume by you saying usually that means they sometimes do support software control? I guess I can just check on a case by case basis (killme) and get a hub if not

>>107221087
FUUU I just ordered one of these for $750 a few days ago from newegg. is there anyway I can get them to retroactively pricematch or some other jewish shit ?

>>107218930
> i would like to fill the remaining 6 slots with fans.
Makes no sense only unnecessary noise.
Remove the two fans under the GPU and install one 140mm rear exhaust fan instead. No more fans, one less.

>>107221110
I think you need to return that and buy it from Walmart.
Newegg customer service won't respond during the weekends.

>>107219962
Gigabyte sells more than MSI retard.

>>107220020
>i bought a shitty third-rate motherboard with a terrible reputation for killing cpus

Asrock had by far the best rep on 7000 series and offers the best features at every price point. They completely fucked their reputation now but they were the go to pick for informed customers.

Also you are retarded if you think anyone needs a motherboard worth over 300$.

>>107221087
Aren't PNY MSRP models really terrible?

>>107221171
I hope not i bought one :(

>>107216833
>Product Notice
>PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)
>>107221171
they would be the best option if not for these issues

>>107221025
Thanks.

Are there any good mid or full atx cases with mesh side panels besides the Fractal North?

>>107221243
I bought one of these, if the fans arnt rattling and it survives some stress testing should I be okay? I assume I can register the card with PNY for a warranty or something in case of the caps blowing down the road ? the PNY card seemed like the best MSRP option :(

>>107221256
I got the pny 5080 and haven't had issues but also haven't been able to test it much yet. I wouldn't worry about it, all of these products sell tens to hundreds of thousands, there will always be a few failures. Chances are yours will be just fine.

>>107221256
it means you got a good one (for now) so you should keep it
caps blowing is random afaik

>>107221264
>>107221286
thanks that gives me peace of mind, Im still waiting on it to arrive but if the fans arnt rattling Ill just keep it :)

>>107221256
The capacitor was probably a few faulty ones in a production batch.
PNY may have fixed the fan issues.

>>107221254
i dont really think so, it's actually really weird how you're basically forced into tempered glass. im too paranoid about breaking the glass so im gonna get the north w/ mesh.

>>107220256
>all companies are shit. Just pick one that's less shit AT THE MOMENT.
This is kinda why I really hate the PC market
IDK how people tolerate it. Done my best to distance myself from most major brands in the last 3-5 years.

>>107221154
The Asrock Nova is a really good board if used with a recent BIOS. Many retards grilled their silicon with unreasonable PBO Scalar settings that cranked up voltages sky high. Not Asrock's fault if people put their kitty in the microwave.

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>>107221321
They fucked up the pcb design of the 5070 specifically which makes it cook the components towards the pcie bracket. I don't think it affects the 5070ti or 5080 though since they are on a different pcb

>>107221383
No one cares about this shit. Not even Igor talks about this anymore.
There should be more 5070 capacitors popping if this mattered.

>>107221427
I guess all video card reviews are nearly worthless because temps don't matter

>>107221438
They mostly measure GPU/GPU Hotspot & Memory temps.
Come back in 3~5 years to see how little this shit matters, like all the RTX 30 cards that are still running GDDR6X chips near 100°C.

Is this 5090 any different from the other 5090s? It's discounted so at a relatively good price at the moment.
https://www.microcenter.com/product/690449/gigabyte-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-gaming-overclocked-triple-fan-32gb-gddr7-pcie-50-graphics-card
I've read the specs and it's listed as identical to all the other 5090s on microcenter, except for missing "NVIDIA DLSS 4" under features (other pages have it listed), but I'm not sure if that's just a typographical error by microcenter.

My OLED is starting to bug out and won't turn back on from standby to the point that the only fix is removing the power cable and plugging it back in. I got the service plan from microcenter because Im not a poor but this model isn't sold anymore. Wat do?

>>107221456
A 5090 is a 5090 the chip is identical

If I plan on running an AIO I should probably get a case thats more focused on GPU cooling yeah? Like one of the ones with the psu pushed forward and fans under the GPU ?
I assume the best/default orientation would be to have the AIO on the top with fans in the front? Is the only reason youd go for an AIO in the front if you were running 2 rads/AIOs?

>>107216806
I need help
>Provide specific use cases
Gaming (1440p monitor), Emulation, Programming, Docker/Podman, Multi tasking, Ollama, ComfyUI, Kdenlive, Gimp, OBS, Shit posting, compiling Kernels and Software.
>State BUDGET and COUNTRY
1000€, Germany

>>107221498
You're overthinking things. Unless you're planning on doing some super hot high end GPU, just get a case with decent airflow and have some intake fans blowing towards the fans of the gpu and you'll be golden.

>>107221427
>>107221455
You children are fucking RETARDED.
Most gamers (RETARDED CHILDREN) never max out their GPUs at 100% usage at max clock speed continuously for extended periods of time. Without actually stressing the GPU, hotspots and cooling defects don't matter that much.

For anyone who may be actually putting their GPU to use, this shit absolutely is relevant. The reason why you don't see failure after failure after failure regarding these cards isn't because "it doesn't matter" but because the people who would be affected by it are usually smart enough to not shop for PNY crap and typically read reviews to avoid these problems.

If all you want to do is play fortnite or some AAA slop that's CPU bound because it's mining bitcoins targetting 30FPS with frame gen at 1080p then sure, any card will work.

>>107221809
Uh oh schizo melty, someone get the meds before he hurts himself.

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>>107221809
You nigger faggot, read the file name of the image you posted.
>IR-Torture-Loop-1320x986.jpg
Igor doesn't even disclose his torture test conditions; we don't know what the fuck he did to get that PCB cooked up.
If you're paranoid about this shit, run the most VRM demanding GPU load overnight while you're card's still under warranty.
You have 3 years to do this shit. Start doing it now.

Even people who are paid to shit on NVIDIA didn't make a big deal about these VRM temps under GAMING LOADS.
GN & HWUB didn't even report the VRM temps in their 5070 Ti review.

>>107221827
>one card in a lineup has a bad design
>NOOOO YOU HAVE TO HECKIN EXCUSE IT BECAUSE LIKE, UH, WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT GOT SO HOT!
meanwhile...
Retarded CHILDREN were crying because Amazon's New World game "fried" their poorly designed GPUs at launch because it didn't FPS cap its menus and they all tried to blame the game, instead of the shit hardware designs.
You people are fucking retarded. You never learn. You are retarded on purpose. You willingly choose to opt-in to retardation.

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>>107221857
>Amazon's New World game "fried" their poorly designed GPUs at launch
Grasping at straws, there have been two reports of PNY cards with blown caps.
You can't compare that to the scale of cards that got exposed by New World.

>>107221489
I might as well ask this question since I've been sort of wondering about it for a long time. What's the difference between all the gpu's that are the same chip but put out by different companies? Just difference in fans and cooling? I guess there's difference in customer service too.

Any other hardware differences from a 5090 from ASUS or one from Gigabyte?

>>107221827
>Igor doesn't even disclose his torture test conditions
nvidia cards have always had excellent board level power management that keeps the GPU at nvidia's specified TDP regardless of load so your FUD is just that, FUD. The 5070 will never exceed the 220W tdp that it comes with even if you run furmark for hours on end.

>>107221615
>You're overthinking things
anon ive been overthinking every last detail of this for days :( i cant help it, the worst kind of autism
>just get a case with decent airflow and have some intake fans blowing towards the fans of the gpu and you'll be golden.
sweet okay, thank you anon

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>>107222004
There are different tiers of board partner video card models.
It's usually the base MSRP, mid-tier, high-end, and XOC/exotic models.
Higher-end card models will have better cooling and beefier board power delivery with a higher power limit.

But most 5090s already have a 600W maximum power limit.
The practical difference mostly comes down to operating noise & temps for the 5090.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-5090-astral-liquid-oc/

>>107222023
Even Igor admitted the blown caps were most likely defective, so you're the one who's perpetuating bullshit FUD.
If this is a board thermal design flaw as you claim, there'd be a lot more affected PNY 5070 cards.

>>107222004
Fans and cooling are one differentiator, another is the PCB and PCB components. For instance, asus makes their own custom pcbs with highend power delivery and uses that for their entire lineup. The difference between TUF and Strix is that TUF also uses the same highend components but downgrades the number of phases and uses a less featureful pcb than the strix. Other more budget oriented brands like PNY or zotac simply takes the reference nvidia board and change around minor things like the number of power phases and specific brand of capacitors used.

>>107222004
>Just difference in fans and cooling? I guess there's difference in customer service too.
That about sums it up. Some also offer dual bios or RGB, factory overclocks, etc.
>Any other hardware differences from a 5090 from ASUS or one from Gigabyte?
The AIB partners get the die/GPU chip from Nvidia, then design the rest themselves. they decide how to implement the VRMs, cooling solution, etc. There are some standards I think for certain things, but really the end result is they all fall in a small % of each other in terms of performance

>>107222063
You're the one making up bullshit on the spot to downplay the PCB design problem anon
Don't bother making excuses, you were caught in 4k

>>107222079
There is no PCB design problem.
There is no cascade of PNY 5070 or 5090s being RMA'd with blown caps, like ASRock motherboard is killing Ryzen CPUs.
There is no board revision, because nothing needs to be fixed.
Keep crying about two defective caps.

is CL40 really that big of a downgrade from CL30? I bought 64GB of CL40 since I got a better deal for it, but I'm now seeing 32GB of CL30 for pretty much the same price. Should I bother exchanging?

>>107222838
which ics did you get

>>107222845
I don't know what that is, I'm a newfag that just finished my first build a few weeks ago.

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>>107222864
thaiphoon burner

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>>107220195
>they sold me on their bullshit 7th gen gamer phone
Nobody put a gun to your head and told you to buy the phone retard this is your own fault sucks to sucks i guess

>>107222892
Can't seem to get it to run on Windows 11. Reads to about 11% then stops responding

>>107223024
some vbs or defender bullshit
this would tell you whether you got Hynix, Micron or Samsung ram, hynix being the cl30 sticks that everyone wants.

>>107218067
I did. The inherent OLED flickering with the refreshrate was unbearable for longterm use. Also those IPS Pulsar displays are a cancer in my opinion

pcpp sucks to find monitors right?

>>107223147
Yeah, look at the rtings website instead.

>>107222838
Yeah it's quite a ways off in latency which matters a ton for gaming.

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>>107223196
5% performance diff probably

>>107223579
which cpu is this

>>107223587
Ryzen 9 9950X
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/ddr5-memory-performance-scaling-with-amd-zen-5/16.html

>>107223603
Looks like they only tested expo not properly tuned ram

>>107223626
And communist propaganda in the comment section LOL

>>107217222
>intel INVENTED x86 so they're the default
but AMD made the 64 bit extension while Intel tried to jew everyone with Itanium

>>107217222
i see it the other way. amd made amd64 and intel makes knockoff amd64 cpus

>>107223626
Custom tuning of RAM is probably too much of a gamble for most people.

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Is there a way to bypass the BIOS-locked 30% RPM limit on a GPU's fans?
I find that the 1200rpm (30% minimum RPM limit) on my zotac 5080 is way too loud, but Nvidia and Zotac don't allow you to go any lower, even on other AiB cards. There is no way to edit the BIOS or to force the fans to spin at a lower RPM through software (firestorm, afterburner, fancontrol). They will always start at 1200rpm and stop at 0 once the card reaches a certain temperature.I'm thinking about either a fan swap or a low power adapter like Noctua's, but I have zero experience in rewiring GPUs cables.

>Ehternet network adaptor stopped working.
>Resetting CMOS does not work
Should I bother to RMA or just buy the dongle? X870 Tomahawk

>>107224113
Since their bios is signed and can't be altered, just do a fan swap.

>>107219473
Are you happy with it? Big GPUs? Are you running some kind of riser setup, or just cards in slots?

>>107224178
RMA

>>107217107
The AMD is slightly better for games but worse for everything else.

>>107224113
My inno3d 5070 twin fan does the same and it's annoying. I guess my PC internals get too hot so it can't maintain 0 RPM forever and has to spin up for a little bit every once in a while even when idling.

>>107224113
No, seriously, why don't you just to a fan curve where the fans turn on when your GPU is at 70C if you hate the fan noise so much?

>>107224196
Yes. I use 3 GPUs. They were big GPUs but I use a water block on them to make them thinner so they can fit. No risers, just plugged directly to the MB.

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what's the catch here?
Looking at how the current ram prices are, and having some laptop modules to spare, this shit looks appealing

>>107224113
Deshrouding & Strapping two 120mm will be always be better than whatever fans comes with default for many GPUs.

>>107224309
IIRC you can only do that on Linux. GPU curve and zero rpm stuff is controlled by the open source firmware while everything is proprietary and locked on Windows. Unless it's a RDNA2 GPU where Windows Registry controls that stuff.

>>107224213
May be I should switch from MSI to something else. This board is nothing but trouble

is the KTC H25T7 a good secondary 1080p monitor? I want it to have high refresh rate and be good quality

>what >144hz 1080p monitor would you recommend, anons? not exceeding $120

>>107224178
Power cycle your mainboard for a minute or two.

>>107224192
>>107224334
>deshrounding
>just do a fan swap.
I'm thinking of this as well, maybe something like pic related with a custom shroud and two big-ass noctua fans but I'd need to rewire the fan connector, attach the fans to the GPU, 3d print a shroud etc and I've zero experience with soldering and rewiring.
>>107224309
>fan curve
you see that's the issue. a gradual curve would be fine where they go 500-750-1000rrpm depending on temperature, like literally any other GPU before 2023, but there is NO way to have them spin down lower than 30% of max RPM. Once the GPU reaches a certain temp, the fans will immediately spin up to 1200RPM, which IMHO is a bullshit solution that has literally never ever been a problem on the GPUs I had before, and I've had some low-end shit like 1050ti

>>107224345
It happened since last night. I did try power cycling, CMOS reset, disable and enable bios lan option, updating the bios.
Pulled plug and tested it again this morning, still have the issue.

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>>107224334
>IIRC you can only do that on Linux.
You are dumb. There are open source programs that control fan speeds on Windows.
Here's a simple fan curve of when the GPU hits 70C, it will spin at ~30% and ramps up quickly.
The whole reason your fans start is because it wants to protect the card from overheating, but apparently he doesn't care about that and would rather damage the card. So do this.

>>107224369
THEN FUCKING LEAVE IT OFF AND ONLY TURN THE FANS ON AT 30% WHEN YOU WANT IT TO
Jesus christ, you are fucking retarded.

>>107224375
schizo retard

>>107224334
>everything is proprietary and locked on Windows
locked GPU BIOS is not a windows problem, and I'm, having a hard time believing that Linuxfags don't have this issue
>>107224269
>inno3d 5070 twin
It's been a problem since the 40XX series for AiB card. Not sure about the FEs but the 3080FE does not have this issue, you can go lower than 1000RPM with a cutom curve.

>>107224352
You can connect the fans to the motherboard instead of splicing up cables if your GPU doesn't use non standard plugs. No need for custom shroud either just use zipties.

>>107224375
>>107224381
He wants to adjust the zero rpm temp and you cant do that on Windows, only Linux.

How does HDR work? Is it something that a game specifically needs to have?

>>107224395
It's 10 bit wide color gamut mode that can blow up brightness as high as your displays capable nits. Game needs to support it or mod it in.

>>107224375
>Here's a simple fan curve
motherfucker, that is NOT the issue
I just want to be able to have the fans spin LOWER than 30%, which is not possible on a 1000$+ MSRP product.
>linuxfag is a mouthbreathing retard with ZERO reading comprehension
many such cases, unfortunately
>>107224383
>You can connect the fans to the motherboard
janky solution. I don't know how the card might behave once it "realizes" it has no fans

>>107224394
And he already knows that he can't do it.
I've provided a work around and yet the nigger still doesn't want to do it. Either give up or do it, that's it.
Someone also mentioned to use watercooling to remove the fans which is also an idea. If he doesn't want to do that either then he needs to give up instead of complaining for 3 threads now.

>>107224412
The GPU software will report zero rpm but the fans are 100% controlled by the motherboard. You can use software to make the rpm match GPU temp. Think how water coolers don't have fans on their GPU.

>>107224429
but i dont want to do that

>>107224444
Your only other option is use Linux because it's all open source firmware controlled that ignores vbios.

>>107224414
>I've provided a work around
no you haven't. having up a fan start at higher temperatures does not address the root cause and is a cope "solution" to a problem that should realistically not even exist
thanks for the replies, they've been entertaining. even if some of the suggestions are dogshit
>refusing watercooling
that wasn't me
>>107224429
>You can use software to make the rpm match GPU temp.
I've heard of this and need to read more into it. FanControl does it well IIRC

>>107224458
thanks for the reply but >>107224444
is not me. I'd gladly use a Linux solution but I've worked with it enough to not want to have to deal with it at home. Imagine you're got a problem with a game and you need to waste hours researching and inputting commands in a terminal instead of relaxing while playing vidya. couldn't be me

>wah my gpu is too loud
>me having my PC in my basement while i game upstairs in my room
Fuck, I'm so glad I'm rich. I don't need to worry about fan noise, or coil whine or other shit about noise.

Anyone has a qrd on GPU sold on ebay with no core? Why would they desolder the core and sell the PCB? Some kind of scam?

>>107224498
Probably for parts.

>>107224369
You probably checked the device under the OS as well, drivers and stuff? If it's new I'd consider RMA otherwise.

>>107224498
>desolder the core and sell the PCB?
the core is the most expensive part, and can be reballed to another motherboard. Say you have a dead 4090 where you 100% know the chip is dead, but the motherboard is fine. It's cheaper to get a defective 4090 where you know the GPU chip is not the problem, then take said chip and put it on the working 4090 PCB, then you got a working 4090
I imagine It's a lucrative business since 4090's are still expensive, and the process is not that complicated if you have the right tools and know how to use them

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>>107224113
>WAAAH SO LOUD
>WAAAA XDDDD
Return the card already or do a deshroud mod, ffs.
https://youtu.be/v4JnJPTy2mE?t=1023

>>107224528
then you solder the dead GPU chip to the dead board and sell it on ebay as "for parts untested"

i have bought my 9800x3d and the msi x670e bros

>>107224547
kek
and at half of msrp

I have a 4k screen 60hz for normal use, should I downgrade to a 1440p 144hz+ screen for gayming and getting a pc? t. mac user. The thing is I travel/move often so committing to a rig has been quite difficult.

>>107224664
>60 to 144hz
>Downgrade

Thinking of sinking in 400 eur in to one of those minisforum BD795i SE boards when the stock is refilled (X3D chip boards kinda defeat the purpose when it comes to dollar per coars). Anybody have any encounters with them ?
Planning to mainly have it as a silent workstation with some ultra silent fan and a big case

>>107224545
as an enjoyer of silent PCs I can definitely say that the card is louder that I'd like. What makes it worse is that I can't decide for myself how loud the baseline "loudness" can be.
>deshroud mod
looking into it. no need for ad hominem attacks I genuinely don't understand why anons ITT bootlick Nvidia's decision to limit fan control on a thousand dollar product, and you even try ridiculing me for criticizing the lack of such a basic feature

>>107224757
>louder that I'd like
No one cares about your arbitrary noise level req.
You've already flashed multiple BIOS and none of them solved it. Now fuck off and deal with it.
There's a return period for you to exercise, but you won't because you got that 5080 at a discount.

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>>107224788
>There's a return period for you to exercise
I'm not returning the card as it runs to Nvidia and Zotac spec, and there is nothing particularly defective about it.#
>arbitrary noise
there is nothing arbitrary about wanting go go lower than 30% fan speed
>Now fuck off and deal with it
Yeah fuck me for wanting more control over an overpriced GPU. Hope that Nvidia shill money is worth it

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>>107224757
>Nvidia's decision to limit fan control
Someone already explained why zero-RPM mode is disabled when GeForce card owners override the factory default fan curve.
NVIDIA doesn't want retards to passively cool their GPUs in a heatsink that wasn't meant to handle it at higher temperatures.

Zero RPM mode is supposed to work if you didn't receive a busted Zotac Solid and you've kept it at the stock fan curve.
Undervolt + OC the card if you want the GPU to run more power efficiently and require less active cooling.

>I'm not returning the card as it runs to Nvidia and Zotac spec
>'It's fine! just let me bitch about it!'
Lmao, you know you won't find a better card for the price you paid for, little bitch.

>>107224851
>overpriced GPU.
Return the overpriced GPU then; walk the talk.
Are you a shithead retard? Are you going to keep that overpriced 5080 Zotac Solid?

>>107224897
>Are you going to keep that overpriced 5080 Zotac Solid?
yes because I didn't pay full price, and I like the card
>Return the overpriced GPU
nah, I'm keeping it. Just wish it had better fan control, that's it.
>>107224886
>Zero RPM mode is supposed to work
it does work, the zero RPM mode is not the issue
>NVIDIA doesn't want retards to passively cool
then why not make the minimum RPM start at 700 or something? that's still more than enough
>you know you won't find a better card for the price you paid for
because they all have the same issue, even higher end models. Unless you buy an overpriced Noctua card

>>107224967
>and I like the card
Then deal with its downsides.

>then why not make the minimum RPM start at 700 or something?
Because your opinion and standards don't matter. Get used to it.

>Unless you buy an overpriced Noctua card
It's got a custom heatsink + 3x 120mm G2 fans, Noctua would easily charge $300 for that package alone.

>>107225005
>Noctua would easily charge
I'd gladly pay that money to them but fuck giving 1500€ + shipping to asus. Their GPUs have other problems that I don't want to pay almost one and a half grand eurobux for
>your opinion and standards don't matter
then why did they matter for the 10XX, 20XX and 30XX series? surely I'm not in the minority here
>Then deal with its downsides.
yeah man I'll consoom the the product won't complain about it one bit like a good customer. sounds a bit ridiculous doesn't it? what's more ridiculous is you defending nvidia's practives, LMAO. Hope they pay you well

>>107225060
The fact that you're unwilling to return that Zotac card means it's not a deal breaker that needs to be addressed.
You've decided to keep that "overpriced GPU" and wonder why things won't get better.
You are part of the problem.

You are the ridiculous NVIDIA consoomer who refuses to exercise your right to return a noisy GPU.

>>107225078
me returning the GPU will not help in any way to solve the systmatic fan control issue on 50XX cards that all AIB models have, including mine. I don't see why you're shifting the blame onto me

>>107225195
People already explained this to your shit brain multiple times.
NVIDIA or any other GPU manufacturer is entitled to set a minimum PWM fan RPM as a safety measure when end-users decide to run the card out of the factory default cooling specifications.
You are entitled to disagree with this practice and buy a different GPU. If you decide to keep it, you agree with NVIDIA's minimum fan RPM safety measures.

Hilarious how you refuse to buy a Radeon card if this is something you can't stop bitching about.

>>107225254
>buy a Radeon card
nah, I'm good. I know they have other problems
>you can only disagree with something if you don't use it!
solid logic there man
>disagree with nvidia
it's not about me disagreeing but not having the choice to override it l I'd like to be able to decide what I do with a high-end enthusiast product.
anyway thanks for tehe replies

>>107225511
>not having the choice to override
The point of a fan control safety measure is to prevent end-user overrides.

>high-end enthusiast product
You bought one of the most affordable 5080, and there's no consensus saying Zotac Solids are one of the loudest running RTX 50 card models.
Continue to bitch about this issue while doing nothing to resolve it.
NVIDIA and Zotac got your money already. You are the clown.

>>107225599
>NVIDIA and Zotac got your money already
they didn't. I wasn't the original buyer, they didn't make money off of me.
>Continue to bitch about this issue while doing nothing to resolve it.
I've already taken steps towards finding a solution

>>107225763
They got their money for the card, that's what matters.

>I've already taken steps towards finding a solution
Like the NVIDIA bitch you are.