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Convince me to use anything else. Pro tip, you can't.
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dnf sucks
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>>107236060
Dnf5 doesn't + flatpak
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only if you use the server version
gnome and all de are for the disable and old peoples
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>>107236036
it's fine. I've been using it since forever. it works. it's up to date. if I were to install a new distro, I'd move to NixOS anyway.
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>>107236036
you will soon discover the fact no one cares about your decisions
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>>107236082
I was just baiting. I use fedora but I see people here say that dnf sucks and I really just wanted someone to correct me and educate me.
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Fedora is great. If it does what you want, fine. But pretending there’s no reason to touch anything else is just limiting yourself.

Where Fedora stops being optimal:

Long-term stability
Each release is supported ~13 months. On serious servers or stuff you don’t want to babysit, Debian Stable / Ubuntu LTS / RHEL clones win: 5–10 years of boring, predictable life.

Reproducible, declarative systems
Silverblue is nice, but NixOS/Guix are built around “everything from config files, rollbacks for entire system + config, rebuild this box from git.” Fedora can be scripted; NixOS makes that the default.

Max custom / bleeding edge
Fedora is “fresh but curated.” If you want latest everything + giant repo, Arch + AUR beats it. If you want per-package compile flags and full masochism, Gentoo exists.

Proprietary crap
Some games, anticheat, VPNs, Adobe, CAD etc simply do not work on Linux at all. Then it’s Windows or macOS whether you like it or not. No amount of Fedora enthusiasm fixes missing support.

Normie boxes
For people who hate changes and upgrades, Ubuntu LTS / Mint are easier: less churn, more “copy this exact guide” content.

Realistic setup for many people:

Fedora on personal laptop/desktop
RHEL/Alma/Rocky/Debian/Ubuntu LTS on servers
Windows/macOS for specific proprietary stuff
NixOS where reproducibility really matters

Fedora is a great hammer. It’s just not every tool in the toolbox.
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>>107236036
dnf is by far the slowest package manager out there, i like how you always get the newer stuff but thats kinda redundant on a point realese model since the support time here is short per realese too.
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most of the work on it is made by volunteers, but the whole thing is obviously controlled by Fed Rat, you never know what they might push into fedora (you), like the telemetry horror a few years ago.
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>>107237601
dnf5 is rewrite in c and is much faster.
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>>107237753
uhhh why wasn't it rewritten in rust??
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>>107237764
probably because the DNF4 codebase already leveraged a bunch of specific C libraries. who cares?
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>>107237438
>ai slop
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>>107236036
convince me not to hide your thread
you can't
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>>107237753
which realese was using dnf5? dnf was slow in 41, after i upgraded i havent noticed any real improvement.
i mean, my internet is fast but it was taking some time to sync and run scripts.
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>>107236036
does protip just mean spoiler?
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why do they hide the systemd code at boot screen? kind sus.
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>>107236036
I'm using fedora myself. I can't convince you... the only thing I'd like to see is btrfs rollback, just like on openSUSE. But I guess that will never come, because they have fedora atomic.
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It has SELinux by default which is NSA Spyware
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>>107237901
proof or didnt happen
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>>107237901
It's open source and implemented very well in red hat distros, even in android and now opensuse. It absolutely mogs apparmor and is the best security you can have, after "don't be retarded"
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>>107238033
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>>107238049
Yes, officer
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>>107236036
wait you dont want to have to check archlinux.net/news every time you want to type in pacman -Syu ?
and in reality its going to be yay -Syu because everyone thinks the aur isnt a steaming pile of shit for some reason
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>>107236036
Well as an actual RHEL user I wouldn't tell you to stop using a Red Hat derivative, have fun. For one thing you aren't locked to old versions of everything like I am for "security" reasons and you probably have an easier time with distro upgrades.
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>>107237350
Honestly if I ran Fedora I'd beg Linus to let us use that in our marketing.
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>>107238055
i means, we need concrete proofs. you only think SEL is a NSA backdoor because it was initially authored by them.
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>>107237438
oh fuck, the opinion of someone with no fanboyism AND personal experience with more than one distro
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>>107237862
it means "should be exiled back to /v/"
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>>107236036

>starts thread
>closes own thread
>???

I get that Linux is an autism magnet, but this is pretty ridiculous even by autism standards.
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>>107236036
Yes, Microsoft Windows.
But that's not linux.
>>107237350
>The least shitty distro there is
True.
>>107237764
>uhhh why wasn't it rewritten in rust??
Because it was planned ahead of the rust hype in the kernel
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>>107238251
>it means "should be exiled back to /v/"
What the fuck do you mean have you tried pressing ctrl + s when typing out a reply, that's right.
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RHEL/Alma is more comfy if you don't want to updoot the entire OS every 6 months. Otherwise just keep using it.
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>>107236036
ok
>>107238580
>>>/t/echcommunity.microsoft.com/category/windows
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>>107237350
based
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>>107237350
I suck ass with gimp
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>>107239203
saved hue
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>>107238055
better not use tor either
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>>107241149
tor glows anyway
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>>107236036
what the fuck is proper h264 support
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>>107242789
>"I use le open source but need my proprietary codecs"
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>>107236333
fpbp
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>>107236036
im getting a new pc any day now and I cant wait to install the sway edition :) I think fedora will be the nice middle ground of new and stable.
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>>107236036
I can convince you to kys
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>>107241162
don't we all
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>>107237064
They won't.
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>>107236036
Resume from sleep doesn't work on the newest Fedora which is a regression over the previous version.
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>>107236036
>corporate
>dnf
>containerization
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>>107236060
Why?
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>>107238055
ummm... bros????
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>>107236333
not sure if baiting or retarded
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>>107236036
>IBM
LMAO.
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>>107239203
Truths have been said
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>>107250532
peer-to-peer internet is our only way out
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>>107236036
I installed fedora kinoite on my parents laptop two months ago and so far they had 0 problems, I think that it's the the most normie-friendly and stable a distro can get
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>>107236036
Linus uses it. It's probably pretty good.
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>>107251772
Is plasma buggy on fedora?
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>>107252730
it has mostly been fine for me i had a freeze yesterday while opening panel configuration but i was not able to make it happen again
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>>107236036
>>107236036

this image is enough
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>>107237064
My favourite way to use 4chan
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>>107236036
It's not a mint.
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>>107252830
That's a trilby, not a fedora.
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>>107236036
Everyone knows you're only using Fedora cause you can't install Debian, Linus.
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how fedora is different from ubuntu or debian?
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>>107254678
Much more recent than debian stable and more stable than debian testing.
People will avoid Ubuntu for a few reasons these days.
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>>107250532

1822 is like 8-pin serial cable connector cannot remember that good?
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>>107254782
ive seem some anons claiming sid is very stable, and yes, ubuntu is redundant in big 25.
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>>107242937
enjoy your cpu video encoding



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