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Is it true? Is technology moving backwards?
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>>107237081
>Is it true?
No, that guy is lying about his washing machines
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>>107237081
It's moving forward from the transhumanist panopticon perspective. They don't care about your user experience. They care about tracking and controlling how you wash your panties.
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>>107237081
>ýou have the same amount of programs doing the same shit as before but it's objectively just worse now
>this is progress
How can you be THIS buck broken?
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There's all sorts of examples.
Ask gearfags on /p/ what they think and they will tell you shit's going backwards all the time. I noticed that an old ass DLSR for beginners is faster to operate than some sony mirrorless camera because the latter is too fucking fancy with the menus. It's all more menuing, less just fucking turn a dial and get it done.
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>>107237081
Turn it on and then load the laundry, idiot. My washer from 1990 couldn't message my phone when it was done or when it was out of pre-loaded detergent. It couldn't be upgraded over time with new cycles.
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>>107237195
>. My washer from 1990 couldn't message my phone when it was done or when it was out of pre-loaded detergent.
why does it need to
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>>107237195
>My washer from 1990 couldn't message my phone when it was done or when it was out of pre-loaded detergent.
Really makes you wonder how we made it this far as a species. I can't imagine the absolute horror of having to use your eyes when operating the machine to see it's out of detergent. Literally worse than the 120 days of Sodom.
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>>107237081
Zoomers write with literal pictures now and what isn't some retarded emoji is incomprehensible gibberish, so you tell me
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>>107238149
on god no cap fr fr :skull:
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>>107237215
Smart washing/drying/refrigerating anything is the most thing ever.
>Let's put sensitive electronics and radios inside something that fills with water and/or gets hot/cold as fuck and jiggles around for hours at a time
>Great idea
Thank God there are still Speed Queens
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>>107238161
At least some retarded zoomer speak is just being back old shit. Zoomers today unironically sound like a late 90's Mobb Deep album.
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>>107238174
Would fucking love to get one if they weren't over 2 grand for a single unit.
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>>107237081
He's got it all backwards. If it's worse, then it's not progress.

Obvious slop machine redesigned by zoomer brainrot.
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>>107237081
My washing machine doesn’t work when AWS is down. So yes, we’re regressing rapidly.
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>>107238195
They non-commercial models are less, but not by much.
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>>107237081
I don't boot my washer every time I use it. I leave it on like you're supposed to and it just goes into standby.
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>>107237081
the only business on my street that has lasted over 60 years and still has its original machines is the laundromat

and they still fucking take coins

AND THEY STILL FUCKING WORK
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>>107237215
Because I can't be within earshot of the washer 24/7.
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>>107238341
>AND THEY STILL FUCKING WORK
Ask the mechanic maintaining them how well they work
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>>107237081
buy an ad
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>>107238535
So you just put your clothes in and hope for the best? Do you need to be reminded by the Borg that you're doing laundry?
>Be me
>Load clothes
>Start washer
>Fuck off for an hour
>Come back
>Put in dryer
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>>107238554
>maintaining things requires... maintenance
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>>107238582
I have kids and stuff dude.
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>>107237157
Yeah, and it’s not just cameras either.

Look at cars. With something like a 2004 Honda Civic, you turn the key and it starts. Everything is a knob or a switch. Now you get into a modern car and it’s completely different. Half the features are buried in some touchscreen submenu six taps deep, and the software updates randomly decide whether your heater works today.
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>>107238595
Retard, you have no idea how well they work or how reliable they truly are
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>>107237081
I wouldn't say backwards. I would say technology is moving in a direction hostile and incompatible with human life. But it is so weird to see this trickle all the way down to consumer technology where (presumably) this hostility toward the customer would be punished.
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>>107238649
>but they could break at any moment!
They haven't so far and even if, guess who they're going to call?
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>>107237081
Technology used to require competence.
Apple's influence on the tech world has completely upended the paradigm. Now technology is supposed to be the most dumbed down thing that 'just werks' and gives you a fuzzy and warm feefee when using it. Instead of you having to learn how to use it and developing skills while doing it.
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>>107238633
damn
does that prevent you from putting your stuff into the dryer without an app telling you
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>>107238812
he wants to put his kids into the washer but it won't let him.
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my shitsung washer plays this fucking stupid and annoying startup/shutdown tune
AND IT CAN'T BE DISABLED. you can only disable the notification tune that plays when a cycle completes. other sounds? impossible
and this fucking botnet sets up a wifi network whenever it's on
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>>107238906
And the integrated LLM on the new one told him how to fold his kids so they'd fit inside?
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>>107237081
depends what you think progress is
for the corpos making the machines, progress is financial gain and moving the stock price. in their case, this is progress.
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>>107238812
Sorry you're poor and have to dedicate thoughts to remembering trivial things.
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>>107237081
Yes, you can thank the niggerlicious javascript for that. Win 11 startmenu is a react app, let that sink in.
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>>107239152
Sorry you're mentally stunted and overstimulated by having thoughts.
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>>107237081
My Ryzen 7840U laptop is objectively slower than my 2013 desktop with an FX 6300, obviously I don't mean the hardware, it's the software that is complete shit nowadays.
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>>107239192
half of this is IEEE754, only brainlets filtered by CS101 can be surprised
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>>107239213
I'm just a little more productive, guess that's why I'm not a forever alone incel.
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>>107239232
You're retarded and an incel? That's rough buddy.
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>>107237096
thats what i don't understand whith connected device such as a washing machine. what do they gain from knowing how much weigh or at what time i do the laundry ?
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>>107237081
When I replaced my washing machine I though my new machine was broken.
Turned out I have to press and hold a touch "button" for 5 seconds just to turn it on.

My old machine was always on and I just had to press start once.
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>>107239220
See, I do have a 7840U laptop as well and I have a similar experience. It just feels slow as shit considering what's in there. How the fuck am I having trouble using Photoshop comfortably when roughly 10 fucking years ago on a garbage PC I just wasn't?
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>>107238149
>>107238187
>zoomer this zoomer that
I wonder who's to blame for letting the culture become fully negrified, and who handed zoomers ipads instead of taking responsibility as a parent lmao
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>>107237081
>everything is touch sensitive
>buttons are forbidden
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>>107239246
>what do they gain from knowing how much weigh
So it can prevent itself from running overloaded and save water/energy on a less than full load.

>or at what time i do the laundry ?
This can be handy if you want it to finish at a specific time.
For example I want it to finish just before I go to work so I can hang my clothes to dry but not do the spin cycle while I'm still sleeping.
My washing machine has a delay timer but no clock so I have to manually add the delay time to the current time which isn't a huge problem but not ideal.
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>>107239286
Because the new photoshop is not like the old CS6, I've since switched to Affinity, but it still takes a while to load.
Sometimes even Sumatra PDF takes a while to open a 100kb PDF file for god knows what reason, and this is basic stuff that used to be instant.
Mint + lightweight FOSS software runs significantly better, of course, but Windows and most modern software, not to mention websites are just worse than it used to be.
If I find the .webm I made in 2013 I'll post it here, it's insane how snappy everything used to be.
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>>107239355
>no you don't understand we all have to submit to the communist Stasi because something something timers have never been tried before
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>>107237081
Its all because muh children and apparently they lose any interest if their actions don't have immediate response.
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>>107239355
ok i get the user feedback now ? still being connected to the web is useless for the user
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>>107237081
But I'm not supposed to say the R word.
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>>107239372
Found it, watch and weep.
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>>107237081
>>107238635
Counterpoint
If all functions of a modern vehicle was a switch or dial, you'd have a 747 cockpit situation
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>>107239385
>>107239391
I didn't say it has to be connected to the internet to do those things.

My washing machine has no internet connection but it does weigh the load before starting.
It doesn't say anywhere how heavy it is but if it's too heavy it will beep at me.

It doesn't have a clock but that would be super easy to add.
Since it's always plugged in it can use the electricity grid to keep the time perfectly synchronized.
Radio time broadcast is also a thing and how my non-smart wall clock knows what time it is including when DST starts/ends.
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>>107239437
>you'd have a 747 cockpit situation
That would be awesome though.
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>>107239445
i do get everything you say. the thing i want to know is why those cunts also put in on the interweb ?
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>>107239372
Windows 8.1 was the last version of Windows that ran somewhat smoothly. Reason being, they had to forcefully shove it inside malnourished 32 bit x86 tablets with low RAM and slow eMMCs.
Once that wasn't a requirement they just tossed it all aside. In 2016 I was playing around with virtual machines on garbage PCs and having a really good time myself. Until I tried W10 virtual machines that ran like absolute fucking ass compared to those 8.1 ones. Good lord. Back then even macOS was snappier.
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>>107237081
Smart appliances are a meme
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>>107239431
Yep
There was a time my PC would boot in less than 10 seconds into the desktop after pressing the fucking power button, now that's just a fantasy, a fucking mirage.
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>>107239535
Oh and that's with fast startup disabled I should mention. Because I know it's inevitable, everyone says "well you can do that if you use fast startup!"
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>>107239557
>If you just enable "don't be shit" then it won't be shit
Why is this setting even needed?
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>>107239557
Yes, there was a script going around years ago that would time how long it took for Windows to restart, it took a bit under 13 seconds on the PC I recorded the video on, just booting took a lot less.
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>>107237081
they just bought a shit washing machine, probably a modern bosch, aka overengineered slop
my beko works immediately, has no smart functions and physical buttons
like you're actually just choosing to buy shit
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>>107237081
sometimes progress is being the first person to take a look around and go
>oh shit, we made a wrong turn
and then course correcting rather than plowing through and connecting A to Z while disregarding everything in between. I feel like there hasnt been anything genuinely exciting in close to 15 years to grace the world technologically. All thats been happening is stacking more and more bad decisions on top of others and hoping it all somehow levels out. There are very genuinely very little things that i would say with my full chest that are better than they were 20 years ago. Even then, most of them come with caveats.
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>>107238535
Have you considered setting a fucking timer on that doohickey you carry with you 24/7?
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>>107243235
1990 washer doesn't even have a precise completion time.
2025 washer has a countdown on the display.
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>>107237081
I remember in 1990 my washing machine took like 15 minutes to boot up
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>>107239246
They can sell that data to various companies that can make use of it, for a combined total profit of $0.00002 per machine. Not wanting to give that data to them is as good as stealing from them, you fascist.
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>>107239246
Thats not the only thing it does. It probably listens to you. Also connection to wifi it can cumunicate with base.

There is no economic reason. Goverment agencies want to track you and they will print out enough money to pay for it.
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>>107239437
> Assuming that the switches and dials all have to be analog and not configurable to change specific things, so you don't have to take your eyes off of the road.
Fuck you, buddy.
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>>107237195
this was clearly typed by a washing machine desperately trying to justify it's existence

no no I needed to download 3tb to let you know you were out of detergent



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