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Which phones have the least amount of spyware on them?
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https://replicant.us/supported-devices.php
https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices
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>>107241894
Do you have a better source than a

SHITTTER

SHIT

SHOT

????
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>>107241894
Unironically probably Apple.
They seem to actual push back on governments wanting to put backdoors in their stuff.
>Apple's CEO, Tim Cook, has publicly stated the company's opposition to government demands for access to encrypted data, explaining that it would "undermine decades of security advancements" and put all users at risk from hackers and criminals.
>Apple has fought legal battles, most notably the 2016 case where the FBI demanded it create software to bypass security on an iPhone. Apple opposed the order, calling it "unprecedented" and a threat to customer security.
>In a recent case involving the UK government, Apple temporarily disabled its most advanced security feature, Advanced Data Protection, for users in the UK, rather than comply with a demand for access to end-to-end encrypted iCloud data.
>Apple maintains a policy of never creating backdoors or master keys for its products and services, arguing that any backdoor, even if intended for "good guys," could be exploited by malicious actors.
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>>107242013
na uh. those have been bugged and tapped by cia before.
can+string is the safest phone.
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>>107242189
kek
if this is true why wouldnt drug kingpings use apple? they all use dumbphones and other assorted blackberries
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>>107242198
>Not encrypting your thoughts and communicating telepathically
Shiggy diggy
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>>107241894
They are all corrupt on a hardware level, do you know AMD PSP and Intel ME? Phones have the same thing, iPhones have Secure Enclave and Androids have TrustedZone. They all come with a remote access backdoor. "Stalins Dream" Edward Snowden basically died to deliver this information to yall ignorant cucks. But yea, basically GrapheneOS, or if you are not american and don't mind a bit US spying, iphone.
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>>107241894
in Russia we have a bunch of secure phones on aurora os, redos and alt os.

they are not cheap and not great if you compare them with flagman model phones but the most critical industries are required to use those to protect themselves.
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>>107242397
but you still have no toilets in Russia
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>>107242013
>>107242198
Came here to post picrel, was not disappointed with fpbp and this reply.
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>>107242432
I wonder what kind of brain damage causes you to believe that a country that 30 years ago was main rival to USA has no toilets.

anyway here an example
https://m-infogroup.ru/oborudovanie/corporate-devices/1055-mig-a65/

it is kinda decent and I am thinking of getting something similar.
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>>107242445
ironically those were not safe.

there were no automated relays back then so a human had to physically connect cords in order for you to call.

it was a big deal and people did not trust phones (even in white house) because "phone girls" used to listen in to gossip later on.

there were quite a few big scandals about it.
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>>107242463
Yeah, I know. That's why I was specifically searching for these models.
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>>107242449
just out of curiosity checked what smartphones are produced in russia under redos (we have like 10 mobile operating systems and the most praised one is aurora developed from ground up)

https://ayya.tech/
https://fplustech.ru/product/smartfon-fplus-r570e/
https://byterg.ru/product/smartfon-oko-phone-5-pro/
https://www.aq.ru/product/aquarius-ns-m21/
https://tplabs.ru/catalog/smartfony/smartfon-tp-labs/

we have more of course..
they are not the shiniest things in existence but still.. it is more secure than what is available in mass production.
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is it easier to
>debloat and degoogle a cheap Motorola
>buy a Pixel and run Graphine
>stoop to an iPhone

consequently an iphone Mini13 is the last small phone it looks like any of the major players made so id go with that.

Roast me, idk
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>>107242536
they are not even that expensive...
I might get one just for fun.
https://auroraos.ru/
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>>107242038
Link me some previous threads then
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>>107242189
IOS is compromised as well as per the article. The tweet op is citing is just a ragebait aimed at android users.
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>>107242811
How's it ragebait if its true?
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>>107242823
there is a book from an apple employee where he was bragging that he worked with cia to put some malware into ipods to fuck with iranian nuclear program.

and he is not alone.. that is just what I have read myslelf..
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>>107242198
they've probably already trained an ai model to turn a video of the microscopic vibrations on the string to an intelligible audio file
it's over
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>>107242198
>those have been bugged and tapped by cia before.
Elaborate
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>>107241894
Xiaomi
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>>107242449
if you would have toilets then you shouldn't steal them in other countries

India also has toilets in theory, but everyone knows the truth

India also made plenties of custom roms

Russia = India, same tier
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>>107242189
Every step you take...
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>>107243462
well if your politicians make toilets out of gold it is a shame to not steal them.
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>>107242397
....wouldn't those also have spyware? Just russian spyware instead of angloid spyware
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>>107244267
even so to get certification they have to use libs and repos prechecked and hosted by fsb.
it is literally the closest you can get to a grantee that there will be as little spyware on it as possible.

most open source has been compromised long ago.
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>>107242390
>Secure Enclave
not a backdoor tho
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>>107242390
This. Every modern device with a CPU in it should be treated as compromised really.
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>>107242536
>one is aurora developed from ground up
it's not it's sailfish/jolla reskin
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>>107244377
shit I did not know that.
sad...
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>>107242013
Fpbp
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>>107242811
>IOS is compromised
Then stop using Cisco shit.
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>>107242852
>there is a book from an apple employee
name?
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>>107242449
>>107242536
Are you gonna use that "Max messenger" they are pushing hard?
Also what do people do about telegram being restricted and everything else being blocked?
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>>107244805
>Also what do people do about telegram being restricted and everything else being blocked?
vpn, zapret, goodbyedpi, xray, masque etc etc etc
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Banks really want to force people to use these things to manage their money and people happily comply. Lmao. I'm not doing it
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This isn't new. AppCloud has been known for years. You can read users complaining about it on Samsung's official forums all the way back in 2019.

Anyway, it can be uninstalled via ADB/Shizuku. The S line doesn't come with it, but it comes with Facebook analytics software preinstalled. That, too, can be removed via ADB/Shizuku.
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>>107241894
ZOGDROID BTFO
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>>107242373
not surprised an israeli would try to steal credit for inventing cellphones

Martin Cooper is an American engineer. He is a pioneer in the wireless communications industry, especially in radio spectrum management, with eleven patents in the field. On April 3, 1973, Cooper placed the first public call from a handheld portable cell phone while working at Motorola, from a Manhattan sidewalk to his counterpart at competitor Bell Labs.
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>>107242013
>>107242013
>>107244517
>taps your unencrypted voice line
nothing personnel kid
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>>107241894
Pagers. Real street nigas know this, bitches hate it for real.
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>>107242358
>not tuning every single particle of your brain with the other person to transfer the information via quantum entanglement
come on, man
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>>107246522
Nice try, Moshe.
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>>107242189
> Apple freely gives intel to Israeli intelligence.
> "Bad Cop" FBI/NSA demands a backdoor
> "Good Cop (apple is literally the US military)" Pretends that's morally wrong.
> FBI already has Pegasus license and rooted your Iphone.
Pedotroons always fall for it.
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>>107244805
>>107245196
I am not into social media and if it was not required for work I would not use telegram.

so I could not care less.
also I have a "forever" server in netherlands so I do not notice any blocking going on.


also the other side does blocking and shit too.
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>>107244752
Creative Selection: Inside Apple's Design Process During the Golden Age of Steve Jobs
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>>107242449
russia wasnt even a country 30 years ago, it was a soviet union vassal
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>>107250268
nice cope
ukraine never was a country that is a fact.
it has no history or anything of it's own.
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>>107242373
rms was right
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>>107242013
/thread
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>>107242536
Aurora is very promising. Russia has been focused on getting those devices into government/corporate utility usage so there aren't customer-focused phones yet. That will come, probably within a year or two. They seem to know what it takes to make the OS successful and have a long-term strategy. They're also supporting other mobile OS development and there is a budding competition brewing there in that space.

Much of the most interesting tech developments happening right now are in Russia, but due to the endless spambots and retards you barely see much talk about it.
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>>107244805
telegram and whatsapp have been used by foreign intelligence services to target people inside of Russia for scams and threats and terrorism. They are very smart to shut those down right now. MAX appears to be entirely capable and it's being developed by experienced people so there's no reason to expect it won't thrive.
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>>107250302
funny enough i dont recall mentioning ukraine in my post. soviet union was essentially a georgian contribution to the world. crack open a history book every now and then will ya
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>>107242397
Why do you call it a flagman model instead of a flagship model? Is it because your flagship got sunk in the Black Sea?
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>>107249676
thanks
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>>107250454
oversimplification is nice to start learning something but when you oversimplify everything as a rule you become incapable of seeing the world the way it is.

soviet union was russian empire 2.0 with a different government structure.
it was Russia with a different name.

the rest is just cognitive biases you have or misunderstandings based on the lack of knowledge of our history.



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