>>107252720
Bro needs to get some more keys that don't say "PgDn" to fill out that cluster

>>107252720
Nice keyboard bro, and by bro I mean never my bro, faggot.

>>107253507
Not mine, but if you can't appreciate a beige T9 I wouldn't want to be your bro

>>107252720
Keyboards that make you want to piss then masterbate without washing your hands then type on

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>chink shit keyboard has led animation when powering it on with no way to disable it
fuck aula

>>107254329
I'm not against this in principle but I just know there's nothing tasteful about how the Chinese have done it

>>107254834
no one ever has mentioned that it works in such way, i think i will just buy some tape that can block the leds and just tape the pcb, i do not have neither patience or soldering setup

>>107254329
Fuck you for wanting everything at a cheap price, you ingrate. Go and pay up $300 and then you can get the keyboard of your fantasies.

I fucking love my keyboard

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>>107252720
Looks like it was inspired by the TI 99/4A.

>>107255175
Post pics if you love it so much.

>>107255374
And "inspired by" is being generous lol

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>>107255008
>50000 step analog TMR
>titanium gold alloy case
>maglev haptic switches
>ivory keycaps
>32x32 OLED backlighting
>Gold Weight
>Graphine Plate
>Aerogel sound dampening

My PBT keycaps that I have had less than a year are starting to develop a subtle shine on the spacebar.

I'm not upset about it. If anything I'm glad, because I think a little bit of shine looks good when it develops evenly over years. But I do think it's funny how people talk about ABS vs. PBT like one is unusable shit and the other is invincible. It's actually just a difference in how quickly the shine happens.

>>107256584
Sounds like you got "PBT" keycaps which were actually a mixture of ABS & PBT.

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>>107256584
anon... I......

>>107256612
No, these are one of the few cases where I'm quite certain it's PBT and not a mix.

>>107256768
do the acetone test on the inside of the spacebar

>>107256768
The only time I've heard of PBT keycaps starting to shine up in less than a year is with PBTfans keycaps, which are a mixture with ABS.

I'm getting a V6 Max as my first mechanical keyboard
I just want a decent quality keyboard
I've owned shitty wired HP/microsoft keyboards my entire life

>>107257096
>—
why isn't the filter filtering this

>>107257141
Alt-0151 nigger. You think ChatGPT is the only thing that knows how to em dash—you're wrong and you're a faggot—lol

>>107256504
Sometimes I have dreams about robbing a museum for Ivory then cnc'ing them into keycaps. Glad I'm not the only one.

>>107257167
O_o telling the bot it is getting filtered really pissed it off kek

I'm going to be building my first keyboard. I can't decide if I want to go with mx or choc switches.
Seems like the mx style has a way bigger selection of keycaps to choose from, but the low profile choc has a better generic look imo.

>>107257427
Oh nvm I actually read the post now, it's 100% gpt lol—but em dashes aren't why

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>>107255175
I hate all my keyboards. Fuck this gay earth

>>107256612
Everyone always copes like this. Plastic is plastic, and plastic shines when rubbed consistently over time. There are zero exceptions to this rule.

>>107258471
must suck being so autistic that you keep consooming products in search of the perfect product yet can never be satisfied with what you have

oh well, just keep searching and buying~

>>107258920
Yea, and for PBT it takes several years, not months.

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I want to replace my ancient picrel mx green QFR. Any recommendations for a modern metal case barebones (or even something complete)?

>>107255374
right side could work as a wireless charger for the phone

>>107256504
>>maglev haptic switches
if you use coils instead of magnet, but keep the magnet in the switch, you could make the keyboard type by itself

>>107259445
>barebones (or even something complete)?
>I want something I will have to assemble myself from scratch, but I would be willing to consider something where this is already done for me
How do you people even think like this?

>>107259519
Imagine being so retarded from licking switch lube all day that you can't possibly consider that it comes down to tradeoffs like price and availability.

>>107255175
I love fucking my keyboard

>>107255175
I keyboard my fucking love

my P1 came with metal plate, but they have the dxf file so I imported it into Kicad and can order it as a pcb. what i noticed is metal plate has studs for screws, quite a few of them. how would I solve this issue?

>>107257522
>look
you should be touchtyping anon.
answer me this: do you prefer laptop keyboard flatness or the tall keys from your normal desktop keyboard? there is your answer

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is rain75 from place like aliexpress valid?

they describe switches in a weird manner adding numbers (cocoa axis-1 / cocoa axis-2 etc) but im assuming its all the same.

I'd get from amazon but is retardetly almost twice the price there in my country (>190usd)

The push for linear switches is a sign of falling testosterone levels.

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I'm looking for a keyboard that has the old IBM vintage colour scheme but modern enough to be usable for gaming. Also preferably <A$150.

>>107260350
there's 8bitdo model M edition, scratches that itch a lil bit

>>107260024
>7000mah
>10 year battery life
kinda based honestly

>>107260350
>modern enough to be usable for gaming
in other words something non-clicky, with n-key rollover, Windows keys, and presumably USB?

>>107260593
I don't like all the extra buttons at the top
>>107260682
>something non-clicky
It can be clicky like cherry mx blue which I'm currently using but I saw that Unicomp is selling IBM keyboard remakes and their buckling spring switches seem bad for video games so I wanted to pre-empt that
>with n-key rollover, Windows keys, and presumably USB?
but yes all of these

>>107260640
sounds like a keyboard you'd find in fallout (still works after 300 years lets fucking go)

>>107260061
on the contrary. linear switches translate to control, having more control is a direct sign of higher testosterone levels. only women enjoy losing control over their keypresses
>>107260640
I removed the (battery)) from my keyboard, no reason for high potential explosives under my fingers

>>107259076
Sure bro.

>>107259906
Are they for mounting or are they just for standoffs (pieces that attach it to the PCB)? If it's just standoffs you can make one without them and be just fine

>>107259076
couple of weeks and the keychron "pbt" already shows wear

>>107260061
>"high test" "male" prefers switches which go "yay! you did it!" every time he presses them

>>107262230
they are for keeping the plate attached to PCB. without those screws the switches+plate could move in relation to PCB, since they're magnetic, they have no electric pins

>>107262252
kek

I think I'm ready to try some tactile switches. I want some kind of feedback that I can feel and/or hear upon actuation, but I also want it to be relatively quiet, less scratchy, with a low initial force.

This keyboard I'm typing on right now has MX Reds but I only ever use it for non-gaming tasks since my Gateron G Pro Red keyboard has faster polling and give me a better feeling of how far down they actually actuate. These MX Reds just feel somewhat bland and lifeless besides being scratchy and are solely reliant on bottoming out. If it had just a slight bump or the feeling of something buckling as it toggles that'd be nice. Because somehow even on the Gateron's I can still tell ever so slightly, but on the Cherry's it really isn't the case.

What are the best options these days?

>>107260350
Cherry G80 of some kind perhaps? Those started off as a Model M clone.

>>107259076
I'm gonna try the acetone test today on the spacebar. We'll see. This set was always trumpeted as one of the good PBT dye-subs so if it turns out to be an ABS blend spacebar that'll be interesting.

I've also used the "PBT" blend set from Swagkeys and it shined a LOT faster than this one (indistinguishable from pure ABS)

>>107258920
>>107259076
Why not just fully dye sublimate your PBT keycaps so that they have that painted texture to begin with? Besides, the shine will matter less as much as making sure they still have their surface texture rough. If the keycap has no surface texture whatsoever that will leave prints.

>>107262268
Oh, that complicates things.

>>107262331
yeah, I figured. one solution would be to expose the copper in those spots, and surface mount some studs, but can't easily find those exact dimensions, as SMD spacers with internal thread. at most I'll make holes and use screws from plate side and pcb side to keep everything together.

>>107262286
HMX has a new light tactile, given their rep that's probably(?) OK, unlikely to be scratchy. I would avoid Gateron until we know that their bounce problem is resolved. I don't have much to contribute here, since I've always been fine with MX Browns myself

>>107262402
>until we know that their bounce problem is resolved
What's this all about? I'm a pretty fast typer from my gaming experience and this is the first time I'm hearing about a bounce problem on Gateron switches.

>>107260061
I've always seen beam spring as the most manly switch type. I agree that linears are feminine. They're like a woman in a wedding dress, preem.

Manly ranking of switch type

Beam Spring > Click > Membrane > Torpe > Reed Switch > Alps > Buckling > Leaf spring > Tactile > Butterfly > Linear > Foil >>>>>>>>>> Clears

Hall Effect is the only acceptable linear switch unless your express focus is maximum silence

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The sound of my Corsair keyboard with Cherry MX Red switches is louder than the clap of my girlfriend's butt cheeks when I have sex with her. And it somehow overpowers the sound of people clacking away on their blue switches when I'm in a call.

How do I fix this problem?

>>107262842
>but I need to FEEL things
said no manly high test rugged man ever
>but I need full control and precision over my actions
said every manly high test rugged man ever

>>107263091
there are silent magnetic switches, though not perfectly silent, yet

>>107262698
There have been problems with their tactiles. If I were to guess, I'd say that they're using hardish contact materials that extend the lifespan of their linears, but that it ends up being inappropriate for the mire forceful contact on a tactile switch, and maybe this is only problematic on boards that are slightly out of spec on current through the switches? (Which could explain why the problem is common, but not universal).

I don't know, but I know that lots of people have attested to contact bounce problem with Gateron tactiles recently. Have heard this about Gateron R, Gateron Longjing Tea and Gateron Jupiter Banana. Probably not limited just to those.

>>107263349
>Gateron Longjing Tea and Gateron Jupiter Banana
What the hell are these randomly-generated sounding candy brand names that they put on MX clones these days...

>>107263253
As if I'm going to volunteer my time to help a girlfriend haver. Go have sex with your girlfriend, faggot

anybody care to help me with a recommendation?
>Budget
around 150 usd maximum
>Location (continent at least)
europe (denmark)
>Preferred switch type
brown
>Layout
iso layout (nordic)
>Form factor
75% preferred, can live with 80%
>Backlight
dont care if it has it or not
>Previous/current keyboards
current keyboard is Ducky One 3 SF 65% MX Brown
i miss having f keys

>>107263377
>Go have sex with your girlfriend, faggot

>>107263393
>denmark
>prefers brown
it's over for whitie

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>>107263377
>Go have sex with your girlfriend, faggot

>>107263393
>iso nordic under 150usd
You're basically buying whatever you find, then. The anons in this thread, most of whom are American or Asian, won't have any special kind of knowledge which could help you.

I'd start by looking through the European vendors listed in the Alexotos vendor list in the OP. Also iirc there's a supplier in England that sells european layout boards from Filco/Daskeyboard/etc, they'll probably have something that fits the requirements, but I don't know what duties/etc are like ordering from there into the EU.

>>107263253
Sounds like you and your girlfriend need to lose some weight

>>107263476
i misunderstood the thread, not interested in building my own keyboard, sorry for being a retard
thanks anyway

>>107263393
https://candykeys.com/product/keychron-k2-he-special-edition-iso-nordic
no browns

>>107263264
Feeling nothing is so androgynous tho. And not the good androgeny sourced from a balanced inner world but the bad androgeny of sterile technological manipulation of the material world.

>>107263684
>sterile technological manipulation of the material world.
you talk like a woman, which explains things
men manipulated material world through technological means so high estrogen women such as yourself can have a comfy life

>>107263722
That would make me an expert on why linears are feminine then :<

>>107263750
women are often confused

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>>107260710
That's why it's good to quantify your requirements instead of just asking for something that is "good for gayming".

>buckling spring switches seem bad for video games
Disclaimer: I'm a buckling spring bitch and I play games on them because I can and because I don't give a fuck. First off, buckling springs are loud, louder than most clicky switches. Holding keys pressed down will give you fatigue until/unless you get used to it. Most Model Ms have 2 key rollover, not the best for vidya. The New Unicomp M has made improvements in that regard, but it doesn't come in the colourway that you want (only black+grey+white). The Model F remake *does* have N key rollover AND comes in the beige colour you presumably want, BUT it's hella expensive and allegedly even louder than the M.

Why not just go on ebay and look for any old crusty rubber dome keyboards from the 90s? You'll get the real deal and maybe even for cheap, too.

>>107263568
I never said you had to. I'm just saying that if you come in with narrow requirements on price and layout, the only people who will be able to help are people who happen to live in that area and know the boards for sale there. They won't have any special "keyboard knowledge" that makes them helpful in this.

Here's a link to one example of a board you might find acceptable. But I'm Canadian so I just don't know that market well enough.
https://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/filco-convertible-2-tenkeyless-tactile-action-swedish-finnish-iso-keyboard.asp

>>107263519
>Sounds like you and your girlfriend need to lose some weight
The girlfriend could just have a very high actuation force and the boyfriend could just have very high spring stiffness.

>>107263875
>Filco comes with an optional R3 control and 1.25u caps lock
I'm actually shocked lol. That is so based. Didn't know anyone did this

>>107262307
Tried it. No result. But I couldn't get anything to happen on my Keykobo ABS spacebar either so I think this "acetone" is just too diluted maybe.

>>107264228
>can't test his watered-down PDT keycaps because of his watered-down acetone
capitalism.... its so beautiful

>>107263393
>iso layout
cringe
t. europoor

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Is there a video of people using tranny keyboards?
Like the ones without numpads, F keys, or even a number row?
I'm genuinely curious how people use those. They seem so fucking retarded I don't know what would be the use case. I can see the numpad and F keys to an extent but the number row???

>>107265551
they use this thing called "layers" that the "lower" and "raise" key activate. personally I need the numbers to instantly switch workspaces

>>107265414
I always had ANSI, I switched to ISO and I love it so far. still miss the long left shift tho

>>107265551
it's doable but it's not really practical. must be people who grew with no personal space, they have small desks and live in small rooms. naturally they'll adopt the cuck format

>>107262286
>If it had just a slight bump or the feeling of something buckling as it toggles that'd be nice
the other anon recommended hmx but i disagree. their bumps are right at the top of the switch and the second you press it’s instant bottom out. you sound like you want something with pretravel, where the bump is closer to the actual actuation

i’d give something like bluish whites or penguins a shot. you’re not really going to find super small bumps on tactiles. that tends to happen more with clicky switches. you could try something like gateron lanes, which are more like a clicky without the click but they’re very tactile. they have a steep ramp and then just fall off a cliff

>>107265699
>you want something with pretravel, where the bump is closer to the actual actuation
Yeah, something that feels linear until further down where it essentially feels like it clicks into place or bumps to let you know it has actuated. So perhaps looking for clicky switches might be better.

>>107263377
BASED

>>107265551
actually tranny keyboards are the ones *with* numpads, you have it backwards, trannies stopped using 60% keyboards like 3 years ago and transitioned into full keyboard posers

>>107265699
I agree with you on this actually. Top bump is an unfortunate trend that has ruined most light tactile switches. I'm just not sure what to recommend to someone who prioritizes things like "smoothness" in a tactile.

>>107265551
You set off the looney troon again.

>>107266129
schizophrenia

>>107266557
>>107266523
>T has a numpad on their tranny keyboard they haven't used for 2 years

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>>107266593
lmao kill yourself

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>>107266129
At the Toronto meetup there were transgenders ofc (it's computer people after all) but the only one whose keyboard I saw was a tastefully* understated tented Alice with Dolch keycaps. Improved my opinion of them generally

*other than disgusting mod tilde

>>107266679
>MX blacks, lubed, ???

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>>107262286
For modern switches you unfortunately do not have most, if any, that have tactile events perfectly synced with actuation, but they're "close enough", especially when actually using them. You reeeally have to feather the switch down to see it happens just above the bump, not something you'd encounter when actually tapping away.
Anyway, there's Ergo Clears/MX Purples from Cherry, which are scratchy because they're Cherry. Sucks to say, but there isn't much in the way of "mid press tactile" switches. I use Naevies (not the EC kind), but they're out of stock now. Zealios, maybe? Not the newer, heavier ones IIRC.
Heavy springs mask tactility easily, and in practice make them feel like heavy linears, save for clicky switches like Kailh Box Jade/Navy, which are very tactile to the point of being fatiguing for most people to use regularly.
I wouldn't rule out the better clicky switches, mainly clickbar switches like Kailh's, if you want the tactile event near actuation. Some of them are quieter than others. Also, it might just be me, but I feel like some of their switches made with POM housing instead of PC are a tad more muted with the clicks. Watch some videos to see if you could tolerate it. Personally, I like 'em and don't mind even louder switches, but I do wear headphones, so that helps.
>>107265699
>Penguins
NTA, but I want to try some after using some AEboards Naevies, which I also like. Penguins still haven't been in stock, though, despite saying "in the near future" for basically a damn year now.
"Tactile at the top" switches just kinda suck, so I agree with what you say about the Clear/Brown style kind of mid-press tactiles. They make more intuitive sense. I also like the Bluish Whites mention, because even though they are basically tactile from the get-go, they feel quite similar to better rubber domes, and the rounded tactility feels better than the "tactile at the top" switches that just free-fall to bottom out once you overcome the force needed.

>>107266696
>I wouldn't rule out the better clicky switches,
Perhaps I should be asking about both tactile and clicky switches then because I hear that a lot of clicky switches are more tactile than the tactile branded switches.

>>107266642
If you unironically use a numpad for Blender Work, then you are excused from the tranny tax. (even though you should use a dedicated kingston trackball for rotation)

the problem is with people who suggest Full Keyboards as a standard even though 99.9% of people have no use for them

>>107266709
Hmmm, it depends. I do personally like feeling the tactility when I type, but it can definitely mess you up if you aren't a heavy typer if you immediately go to very tactile switches. I would sooner recommend Box Pink before Box Jade, and especially over Box Navy.
Bit of a tangent here: personally, I'd like if Kailh made a switch that's just one very small step below Box Pinks, as their springs are just a tad too heavy and the clickbar just a touch too thick for me, to be an "all rounder" switch to use for gayming and typing alike. I've tried frankensteining their clickbars into other Kailh switches with ~55g springs and they are a bit sluggish on snapping back up. I'd love if they had introduced a switch with a ~55-60g spring, with a clickbar that is just barely, and I mean barely thinner than the Box Pink's.
Personally, I'm a fan of the Kailh Arctic Fox clickies. They're rather light, (~50g spring) but the tactility is decently noticeable, so long as you aren't the type to hammer your fingers down when typing. They are, however, one of the louder clickbar switches IIRC, but I just love their sound. A touch hollow and glassy.
Also, clickies tend to have a bit "cleaner" or "sharper" feeling tactility than most modern tactiles, and usually a bit more brief, too. Clickbar clickies usually have a click on both the downstroke and upstroke, similar to how pen clicks work. I did actually get some Yunzii Onyx ones, though, that use Kailh's clickbar mechanism, but they add a rubber pad to mute the clickbar when it snaps back up, so it's only clicky on the downstroke. I actually like how they feel, they feel like slightly heavier, slightly more tactile Arctic Fox switches, but they do have some spring ping, which can be bothersome if you don't wear headphones like I do. They also don't have the box shaped stem, like Kail's Box switches do, so keycaps wobble on them a tad more, but not anywhere nearly as bad on some other switches I've tried.

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>>107266709
>>107266862
Also, I forgot where I ordered my Naevies from, but I got them from here:

https://keyboardtreehouse.com/products/naevies-v2?variant=43016062632195

They still seem to be in stock, too, but if you're in the US they seem to be having some trouble with shipping for the coming days. I would not pay any attention to the Naevie's listed spring weight of ~63.5g, as you can see force curves say otherwise. Force curves are the best way to visualize how heavy a switch, and its tactility, are in reality. That's another thing, always see if you can find force curves for the switches you are interested in, since listed specs can be (and often are) misleading/not reflective of their real world performance/feel.
As you can see from these curves, though, the tactility starts around 0.5mm down into the press for some of the tactile switches I mentioned, instead of right from the get-go for something like U4Ts. Clickbar switches are usually around 1.5mm down into the press, closer to where the actuation happens.
If your boards are hotswappable, you can get a switch tester with some Box clickies and put them in to see if you'd be fine with their noise, otherwise you're better off trying to pick up these Naevies I'd say, since that's the best you're going to get from MX style switches with tactility mid-press.

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>>107266593
I input decimals and do calculations on the regular. Don't associate me with obsessed looney troons that larp like yourself, thanks.

>>107266958
yeah in your case its 100% a tranny keyboard

>>107267346
>I'm more normal than normies
weird trip you're on

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I have seen the face of God.

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nth for curve keywells
>>107267567
What switches?

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>>107267567
Are you sure

>>107267420
Normies are bizarre though

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Who buys this

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I think it came out nice.

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>>107268472
Can never unsee this on cyrillic caps.

>>107268472
>RGB shit

>>107268518
tranny

>>107268472
The cutesy shit on the right greatly annoys me but otherwise this lgtm.

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PgDn PgUp is amazing actually

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>>107268640

>>107268319
yuge faggots

>>107267346
>abloobloo
Don't care about your tranny babbling.
>>107267420
He's a legitimate schizophrenic tranny.

>>107266679
>tented Alice
Unbelievable. It was all right there in the name.

>>107267669
SWK Ghost Dragons.
>>107267688
._.

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>>107266679
>tented Alice

Bump

Practicing soldering is fun so far.

>>107265551
I type numbers faster from a layer than I ever could from the number row, I actually tested that on typing sites.
What is the logic behind saying that it's fine to lose the f row but not the number row? I mean it as a genuine question.
I guess it's because you don't use the f row much, so it's fine to use a suboptimal solution for f keys like a layer? I genuinely don't think layers are worse than moving your hand, so far my experience is telling me that layers are actually better. I would have a 300% keyboard if it boosted my productivity, I have a huge desk anyway, I just don't think those extra keys help. It's even clearer with symbols.

>>107265551
i love 40%s especially split

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anyone tried the matte ceramic?

>>107272807
That being said, I consider the number row to be a borderline row, some people should probably keep it. Especially if they have very long fingers and have a high wpm typing numbers on the num row, but I would do some tests with a number heavy text to see if that's actually the case.

holy retards just put the numpad on another layer, when i press both the raise and lower layer keys on my 40% keyboard it goes to a third layer where i have the numpad where my right hand naturally already is

    [_ADJUST] = LAYOUT(
___________________ KC_NUM , KC_P7  , KC_P8  , KC_P9  ,  KC_PMNS, _______,
[left half of board here ] KC_PAST, KC_P4  , KC_P5  , KC_P6  ,  KC_PPLS, _______,
___________________ KC_PSLS, KC_P1  , KC_P2  , KC_P3  ,  KC_PENT, _______,
____________________, _______, KC_P0  , _______

>>107272996
why even bother at that point? you already have the number row.

Hold on, don't Cherry MX Clear and Purple switches break your keycaps due to faulty stems?

I was wrong about multiplexing. This is 100 times better than matrix diodes.

>>107273582
you're stuck in sequential scanning tho, no parallel scanning

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40% keyboards are retarded
cucking yourself out of easy modifier + num just shows you're incompetent at using computers

also printed tall ahh feet for my choc v2 sofle
also sum klp lame saddle with modified homing

>>107272996
Fuck your layers. Give me physical keys on my KEYBOARD. Everything has its proper place and purpose. Using shortcuts to compensate for a lack of physical inputs is just cope of the highest order. Keys, keys, keys. I need keys, I need population, I need surface area.

>>107273440
Anyone using un-modded Cherry switches in 2025 is a retarded normie anyway, so it doesn't matter.

>>107274079
I know that I'm also an exception in this regard but HRMs work perfectly for me. Literally zero misfires since I installed Achordion for Qmk.

>>107274051
ah, you're talking about analog inputs. teensy 4.1 has 18 analog inputs, but might as well scan one column at a time. parallel scanning for all rows, sequential scanning of columns

>>107274107
Pretty sure as long as you're not using those two switches your keycaps should be safe from cracking

Should I consoom a Glare TKL in top tier condition?

>>107274148
or if you wanna go crazy do parallel scanning of all columns and sequential for all rows. should have enough ADCs but not sure teensy can handle it, with averaging for all etc

>>107274148
thats a good idea :<
Im really just trying to beat 1000Hz so there is alot of room. Right now Im giving priority to alpha scanning but maybe that is dumb

Bump

>>107273440
"that's n-n-n-not a problem anym-more you can just buy the $30 geon trimmer. s-s-skill issue"

>>107272996
Dedicated keys > gayers. Cope, troon.

Is there a hidden secret to lubing linears? Like using 3 different types of lube for different contact parts like stem legs/sides/housing rails and whatnot.

>>107275396
dedicated trankeys

>>107275434
Roundabout retardation is the epitome of the troon mindset, though.

>>107275433
The way I lube switches is basically the same as how taeha shows in his old vid. Remember less is more.

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>Budget
Not an issue
>Location (continent at least)
sPAIN
>Preferred switch type
Looking for something hot-swappable, I like tactiles, Maybe ill get the silent boba U4s
>Layout
ISO ISO ISO
>Form factor
100% 100% 100% (or tkl + separate same-'design' keypad) and I want it WHITE
>Backlight
no big issue if not, but preferably yes
>Previous/current keyboards
IBM Model M from '86; a gift from my father in-law

Everything is ANSI, and the few ISO 100% ones I find are not in white. Im looking to it to build a modern-switched replacement that still looks similar to my model M. 4 years ago, I had the chance of getting a keychron Q6 pro in ISO shell white color; but missed it; and ever since, they never re-stocked.

>>107275627
https://www.pccomponentes.com/teclado-mecanico-cherry-touchboard-g80-1190-layout-de-con-touchpad-integrado

>>107275821
That thing is a VERY unconventional layout and definitely not what I am looking for...

gracias por la ayuda de todas formas

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This default lube job is wild. Wtf man

>>107275821
This board transitioned, molested children in a bathroom, then jumped off a bridge

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I think maybe I'm just allergic to saving money. Why the fuck did I buy this

>>107275627
a Keychron would suit that with a Q0 numpad. but white numpad seems out of stock. look at various EU keychron websites, some may have ISOs in stock

>>107276187
Geon says thanks

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Hell yeah CONSOOM

>>107274386
there aren't many micros that support high speed USB and are also compatible with QMK. apart from the teensy ones there's only STM32 F405/F407/H723. wtf
and can't use teensy for a normal PCB, like replacing an existing one in some commercial keyboard. ah yes, and also having at least 16 ADC channels.
btw, teensy says 12bit-ish but actually 10. which leaves 0-1023 for the whole 3.3V input. with 1V signal that's like under 9bit.
so for high speed usb, which allows 0.125ms frames (up to 8kHz polling), and most ADC read data on each scan, needs at least 16 channels for 15 columns (75%), which leaves like three micros that are compatible with QMK

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Vortex PC66 clone at a fraction of the cost. Worth no?

>>107276941
I got my new PC66 for like $55.

F1-8X V2 extra plates are arriving today, I can't wait to build in this BEHEMOTH AAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Just got my first ever set of DCS, the WoB intro set. It looks great and sounds great too. Highly recommend. Shame about the kitting being so basic, but other than that I have no complaints.

>>107277196
the what and what

>>107277196
oh my fauci that's good

>>107277214
Signature Plastics "DCS Intro" in White-on-Black. An alternative to Cherry profile caps like GMK, Keykobo, etc.

>>107277196
Keyboard niggas will look you dead in the eye and tell you this is their "custom keyboard"

Is there any 75% or 100% kb worth picking up for around $50 in amazon at the moment with these Black Friday deals?

>>107277336
U mad bro?

>>107276797 me
there's actually no other micro that supports usb 2.0 high speed, without an external phy. this is insane.
so apart from the teensy, there's no standalone micro that can do over 1kHz polling, due to not having usb 2.0 high speed. crazy shit. and the few that can need an external phy chip. fucking hell. and teensy can't do full 12bit ADCs. what do

>>107277499
No I admire the balls it takes to present the styling of the Logitech K120 as one's personal aesthetic vision

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>>107277561
>>107276797
w-whats wrong with not having real 12bit output...

I was planning on using QMK with my teensy board... please don't tell me I can't

there are other boards out there that act like a teensy, but they get expensive, and you need to use PIC, and generally, the keyboard stack firmware is expensive too

>>107276941
Nice, but no qmk/via and only one (linear, soldered) switch option.

Imagine using a POM keyboard with POM switches and POM plates and endless foam and hands lubed with 205g0.

>>107278015
>https://www.pjrc.com/store/teensy41.html
>Analog Inputs
>18 pins can be used an analog inputs, for reading sensors or other analog signals. Basic analog input is done with the analogRead function. The default resolution is 10 bits (input range 0 to 1023), but can be adjusted with analogReadResolution. The hardware allows up to 12 bits of resolution, but in practice only up to 10 bits are normally usable due to noise. More advanced use is possible with the ADC library.
it can do high polling rates:
>https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2021-05-08-keyboard-input-latency-qmk-kinesis/
but on classical switches. no clue how it fares on ADC. don't know how ADC sampling is implemented in QMK for it, the whole ChibiOS thing
see https://github.com/kinx-project/kint/issues/5
getting polling from 500hz to 1khz means 1ms reduction, at least for matrix scan rate. so from 2ms to 1ms. going from 1khz to 8khz saves you less than that (0.875ms). full 1khz scan rates is ok for me. and apart from teensy, as it's already a ready made board ready to drop in, it isn't work designing around a micro that could support usb hs, but needs an extra phy for it, for >1khz scan rates.

>>107278015
>>107278151
but you need to see resolution of ADCs in practice, as they state 10bit for full range, and you won't get full range ADC input from sensors, you'll get a third of that or thereabouts

>>107278600
What are the big red buttons for?

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>>107278664

>>107278664
Whatever you want them to be for, they're macro buttons.

>>107278664
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00k_Gj8vrfw

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The Cannonkeys Brutal V2 1800 is going to be $149 on Black Friday. I recommend this one, it's good. Nicely soft/muted sound signature with the zinc internal weights, not a 'pingy' or 'metallic' sounding board, runs quieter than most with no foams/etc. The very low front height is extra comfortable. 1800 layout is very usable, the numpad works as nav of course but you can also use the row above or the F13 to add some more nav keys if you don't like having them on the numpad.

This sounds pretty similar to mine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTZkYh-swpM&t=3630s

It's just a bit harder to buy keycaps for it because you'll want the windowed num lock to put an indicator LED there, otherwise can't complain about the board. Using it right now.

Burgers should take this deal imo

>>107278996
I have to correct myself every time I talk about this board... the 96% layout* (NOT true 1800)

Any opinions on the TH99? It's on a sale at around $60
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0DPMH2Z53

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the struggle is real /mkg/

>>107279083
>65% board

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>>107279083
oh no no no no no no

>>107278852
I mean it will work. but for analog there's not much around in QMK, apart from whatever Keychron made.
regarding higher polling rates, have no clue what's possible, I'm locked on usb 2.0 full speed so can't get higher than 1khz.
you can always use a stm32f401 and use keychron's code for it. qmk also has support for stm32f405 and stm32f407 which could do usb high-speed with another phy chip connected, has 12bit ADCs and could probably recycle some of keychron's code

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>>107255418

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>>107278852
keychron c1 pro 8K is 8khz and uses stm32f405, which makes sense since it's one of the two that could do usb 2.0 high-speed. they most likely used the external phy chip. curious to see a teardown of it. it's not analog but at least we know f405 works with qmk and high polling rates.
also this shit is $50 with pbt keycaps wtf lol but it's wired
https://github.com/Keychron/qmk_firmware/blob/2025q3/keyboards/keychron/c1_pro_8k/info.json

>>107279083
Ok but that's a really cheap keyboard

>>107279144
Absolutely pathetic attention-whoring.

>>107279185
Nice F1 bro, what's the plate/switch setup?

https://youtu.be/yWIg6g8kMfg
they just launched Q6 HE 8K couple days ago. no qmk update but probably using f405 as well

>>107279340
mx2a orange(mxblack recolor lmao) on v3 plate, they are nice

>>107279498
Sweet
I'm getting my PP and POM plates later today, I'm gonna try out my lubed/filmed Kailh BCPs and get clacking
gonna retool some new nixies later, try out different springs for an alu build as well. Such a sick board

>>107279522
I’m thinking of getting a PC plate as well

>>107275627
>Everything is ANSI
based, get fucked

>>107279595
Build swapping is so easy on the F1, it's a no-brainer to try out different builds and just swap between them when you want to feel something different.

god these keyboards are so pretty, so much nicer than the old gaudy rainbow colours and pastels
has there been any significant progress in making an actually good trackpoint mechanical keyboard?

>>107279083
oh dear

BOOMP

>>107278686
>see, that's just the thing about all these pointless gimmicky knobs and butans and sliders
>they can do ANYTHING
>the only limit is your *imagination*

>>107280203
Based. As long as one has imagination, strength has no limit.

>>107279609
>muh ANSI
the only thing of value in that layout is the left shift, that's it

How do I get into tactiles? I tried a bunch and I don't get it.

>>107280570
What is there to get?

Lube slide

>>107255175
I my. keyfuck loveboarding

>>107280481
>1 of the 2 keys thats changed is better
not a very compelling argument. the wide enter is also better than the tall one, btw

Vedbdua

Entilzha

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What is a good value Hall Effect Mechanical Keyboard?

>Budget - Up to £100
>Location - UK
>Preferred switch type - HE
>Layout - Regular
>Form factor - ?
>Backlight - IDC
>Previous/current keyboards - Perixx/Logitech basic shit

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The Strawberry Cheesecake R2s sound and feel horrid on alu, markedly better on pc, great on pom and best on pp. Alu is so bad it repressed all of the tactile feeling from the keystroke.

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>budget
unlimited
>location
brazil
>preferred switch type
no preference, but my current keyboard uses cherry mx blues
>layout
ansi
>form factor
80% or 75%
>backlight
don't care
>current keyboard
old hyperx alloy fps pro
>bonus
comes with macOS symbol keycaps for super/command, option, etc (or a link to good ones like that on aliexpress/amazon)

>>107283208
save for a wooting HE80, it's the only real HE keyboard on the market atm. Everything else is a waste of money

>>107283696
KEYCULT NO.1 TKL

>>107283696
https://geon.works/products/f1-8x-v2-barebone-kit
Luckily Geon has some F1 left

>>107282169
nah it isn't, the faggot slim Enter looks like shit. the massive one looks like a chad, gives visual character to the keyboard.
slim Enter is for women. real men use large Enter to issue commands

>>107283996
>KEYCULT
Tainted name, just like Rama they are garbage brands at this point

>>107284034
Cope. Large enter is a waste of space and eats up other keys.

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>>107284034
Based. Trannys will seethe with their dilate button

>>107284125
that is poorfag behavior. live a little will ya

>>107284125
the japanese know what's up, long left shift, large Enter, short space

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>>107284461
forgor picrel

>>107284367
That's a shift retard

>>107284556
found the triggered tranny lol

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today i learned that keychron k3 keyboards have some weird custom switches that you have to pull from the top and the bottom, not the sides, i guess you learn by doing and by buying stuff without reading shit

>>107268518
It's literally just backlight chud.
>>107268613
I can get why but I thought I wanted some contrast for the otherwise plain look I dunno, If I had caps without anything on them I might put them there.

>>107284368
My enter key feels thicc solid and tight because it's a full travel switch with a long spring. I get by.

Glued a choc cap back on that broke

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@tmrfag
here's what I'm thinking, picrel has each sensor from each row connected to an analog mux, output of mux goes into one ADC input. for 15 columns you need 15 muxes, they're pretty small they fit.
this way in one scan cycle you only need to cycle through 6 rows, and then the cycle ends.
cycling through the columns takes almost three times as long, with three times as less ADC channels. might as well parallelize more and get shorter scan cycles which I suppose would translate in faster scanning rates for the whole thing
you also have all the analog sensors powered on, no settling time for being powered on and off on each scan. from what I know power on/off cycles are stressing to electronic components.
think of it this way, with them always on, you get 3000 power on/off cycles in 8 years. with them powered on on each scan cycle you get the same power on/off cycles in 3 seconds, at 1kHz. even less at higher scan rates.
and you could drive U1..U15 with the same A0/A1/A2 signal, in parallel, so you switch the output of a full row each time, into the 15 ADC inputs. if you want to gild the lilly you could also add 4xquad package opamp chips, so you buffer the mux outputs. add some small ceramic decoupling caps on each sensor power supply pins as well.

>>107285507
or if using all the pins from every mux you need 12 x 8:1 muxes for 90 keys (6rows/15columns). maybe even 11 as there's like 83 keys in total

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>>107285507
damn thats really nice I need to make a diagram like that, right now I'm designing the PCB for each lane, but the finalised work won't be done for like a month

I was using the CD74HC4052M96 mux, it seemed easier to be able to switch through channels . But damnit I wasnt really thinking about doing rows / columns when I bought them. The TMUX1308DYYR kinda makes more sense tho. Fuck my design ability is horrible

>>107285507
also from my understanding, you had to use something with multiple addresses to take full advantage of the parallel scanning of the teensy 4.1

>>107285507
damn the TMUX1308DYYR absolutely blows my mux out of the water oh my god

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Gmk wob (japanese) on amazing sale on drop

>>107286466
I didn't do much research on it tho, just searched for 8:1 in kicad lol, but I did know I need an analog mux and around 8 channels.
the whole trick to using one for each column is that all of them can have data pins tied together, so they all cycle through the rows at the same time, thus getting a reading on a full row each cycle.
but you need one for each column, and waste two out of the eight inputs, but upside is you have three wires to control all of them at the same time. so when S0 is on the output of the mux, on each mux, you have your whole row0 into ADC, at once.so the whole scanning code is making A0/A1/A2 cycle from S0 to S5 and that's it.
do check the mux power supply, max Vin etc. ideally power the sensors from 5V and the mux from 3.3V, so you have max 3.3V on the output. since at least hall effect sensors willl have 2.5VDC on the output with no magnet close by. and depending on pole that's coming close to it, it either goes to 5V either drops to 0V. so have 2.5V to 0V or something, with 3.3V on the mux that makes sure it won't output more than 3.3V into the ADC, even if you reverse the magnet on the sensor.

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Hell yeeeeaah

>>107287566
The silkscreen on the PCB is pretty neat. Too bad you'll never fuckin' see it once the board is built.

>>107284061
-_-; can you even put into words why an F1 is better than a KEYCULT NO.1

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>>107287585
The board is gonna look pretty enough, soon. It balances out.

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Breathtaking

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TKL CONSOOOOOOM

are there doubleshot shiny ABS with seethrough legends? that are nice?

>>107288080
>are there doubleshot shiny ABS with seethrough legends?
yes

>that are nice?
no

>>107288115
what about PBT?

>>107288127
you're not going to find any nice keycaps that use shine through anything. GMK, MTwhatever, none of the based, high quality keycaps have shine through.

>>107288163
I already have the Keychron OSA profile, double-shot PBT. MT3 looks interesting but it's not that far off. I would have liked something with shine-through legends so I can keep it on low intensity at night, I had one keyb in the past and like that effect, with barely no glow around keys, just the legends visible during night time

>>107252720
I know it's not fancy or anything but is the logitech K845 any good?

>>107287635
NTA, but the F1 has a better typing feel. The sound is subjective, but most people prefer the sound of the F1 as well.
Funnily enough, KC messed up so badly that their boards are now selling as in-stock on NovelKeys, and you can just buy one right now.

>>107288062
How does the Cycle8 stack up against the F1?

>>107288080
key quality doesn't matter as much with shine through, either, because the shine through obscures all the imperfections in the key.

>>107288328
I'd get a nice set if there is any. I could also experiment with 5-6 aliexpress sets instead but figured I'd ask

>>107288348
>I could also experiment with 5-6 aliexpress sets instead but figured I'd ask
this is honestly your best bet, for my dark room shine throughs I use womier jellys

>>107288318
First impressions, it's great. I have Clouds and Xinhais on my Cycle8 and they feel perfect on it. The BCPs on my F1 feel better and sound better, thanks to the PP plate and the copper weights. The F1 is in its own league but I'll still switch between my other boards, Cycle8 included. They all have their own unique builds inside.

>>107288050
>>107287566
>he even bought geon towel
>he even bought geon plate fork
It's so over for this anon, what's next? Geon's screw driver set?

>>107288348
If you have south facing leds
https://drop.com/buy/drop-dcl-shadow-international-keycap-set
Looks like the standard one is sold out
https://drop.com/buy/drop-dcl-shadow-keycap-set

>>107288444
The previous owner was nice enough to bundle everything Geon with this. I only had to buy the new PP/POM plates.

>>107288485
I have the proper north facing leds

I'm not a keyboard autist so I don't know where else to ask this

I'm wanting a mechanical keyboard that has USB passthrough and the only options I really see seem to be specific Red Dragon (which I get the impression is a cheap/not good brand) and RKGaming, and all of their options are some inane combination of light grey and pastels, and I just want something that's all black or dark grey aside from lighting.

One (1) of their keyboards has a black base so I could in theory just get black keycaps, except I have no fucking clue where to buy keycaps from. Do the people making custom keycaps even make plain black uniform keycaps that just have transparent lettering to let light through? That seems super basic but it's because it's basic I worry nobody would bother making it.

tl;dr

1. Why do enthusiast mechanical keyboards have god awful garish color combinations for the keycaps?
2. Where can I buy non shit (but completely medicore is fine) keycaps that are just black with transparent lettering, no quirky color combos
3. Are there any decent mechanical keyboards with USB passthrough or a built in USB hub that's all black aside from lighting to begin with?

>>107288863
>Why do enthusiast mechanical keyboards have god awful garish color combinations for the keycaps
Any example on this thread?

when are matte black ceramic caps with matte white glass legends coming out?

>>107288444
The Geon screwdriver set is fantastic though. The towel is much dumber.

His plate fork is same price as anyone else's so I don't see why not

t. owns the Geon screwdriver, Geon plate fork, Geon switch opener, Geon wire twisters, Geon stab tuning surface thing, and Geon tweezers

>>107289075
Checked his website to see if I forgot anything. I also have the Geon stem picker

It's useful for lubing stabs actually

>>107288863
Bro you want to plug things into your keyboard, thats the most garish keyboard design I've ever heard

>>107289075
Geon only, brother. It just works.

>>107288863
https://www.daskeyboard.com/daskeyboard-6-professional/

I was going to answer you point-by-point but it sounds like you just want this.

>>107289390
With that said, the fact they changed it to usb-c is kind of annoying. DK4 had usb-A

>>107288863
Also re: keycaps: these are probably some of the better ones:
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/ducky-black-seamless-backlit-108-key-oem-profile-double-shot-pbt-keycap-set
(but still shit obviously, because it's backlit cherry mx)

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>>107289390
>laser etched keycaps
>blue/brown mx
>muh save the planet
meh

>>107289509
Oh nooo it has a stupid button you can disable, unusable

I'm going to spoonfeed you one more usb-hub keyboard and after this you can go look for them yourself faggot
https://drop.com/buy/drop-shift-v2-mechanical-keyboard

Sometimes you gotta just send it and pair a board and a set of caps for life. You can't just keep changing that shit out forever

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>>107289914
>You can't just keep changing that shit out forever

I find I have a lot more patience for shitty cheap keyboards than for shitty cheap keycaps. If you show me a $30 keyboard with $100 keycaps, I might be into it. Far less likely I'll be into a $200 keyboard with $25 keycaps

What kinds of switches are most suitable for programming/general typing if I don't play any vidya with my keyboard?
Currently using the stock gateron browns that came with my keychron V1 but I'm not entirely satisfied with them. I could do with a snappier feel and sound.

>>107290442
The idea that X or Y switch is better for Z use case is 99% bullshit. Just use whatever switches you like the feel of. If you want something more tactile then look at boba U4Ts.

>>107290442
Gateron smoothies lol

>Budget
50-100~
>Location (continent at least)
U.S.
>Preferred switch type
MX Reds/Browns, open to recommendations
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
Optional
>Previous/current keyboards
Corsair K70 (current), Ducky Shine 3, CM Quickfire, and some old logitech boards.
I don't really care much for the RGB or anything like that so long as it has standalone mediakeys (not FN media keys). I do data entry and ghostwrite/freelance articles/stories/reviews so the numpad and arrow keys are a must. Media keys are desired so I don't have to alt+tab everytime I want to change background noise or whatever. I haven't purchased a new keyboard in years, so I'm kind of out of the loop in regards to new tech/brands. I figured I'd get help from /g/ rather than just buy the cheapest option on Amazon or whatever.

>>107290442
linear for gaming
tactile for typing
clicky for being retarded

>>107291075
Ever thought about a macropad with knobs for media etc?

I am no longer that excited about keyboards. I got into splits about 2 months ago and my split works very well, I have perfected my keymap, HRMs work perfectly, I type faster than I ever did on a row stagger etc. but now it's all routine.
Are there any new cool developments? Looks like people just build basically the same 36 to 42 key keyboards and maybe they slightly chande the splay or whatever.

>>107290442
you’re gonna just have to try stuff and figure out what you like. i recommend any hmx tactile for best OOTB experience since their factory lube is better than everything else

>>107278064
>no qmk/via
name a single keyboard on the market i can buy right now that's 100% and does this that also has a simple beige construction like that one

>>107291075
Keychron V5 Max

>>107291158
>linear for gaming
>tactile for typing
I don't know, I type pretty fast on both

HATOR Skyfall 80 Pro for 70€

or

Skyfall MAG Ultima 8K for 90€ ?

In general do Hator make decent keyboards?
According to their own data the more expensive one has double the switch life (50M vs 100M clicks).

or

full risk and order the one from Aliexpress, AJAZZ AK820 PRO for 50€?

>>107290484
Wrong. When Cherry designed the linear MX switch in the 1980s it was explicitly designed to be a more responsive/controllable input for Counter-Strike.

>>107290442
When they do another round of Gateron Lanes (definitely gonna happen since the first sold out immediately) you should get some

>>107294516
y-you mean the Wooting HE80...? right..?

>>107252720
I like the 8BitDo keyboards a lot

>>107289914
But sometimes you have to switch it around to find the right one that clicks permanently.

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>>107292901
Vortex Multix 104 VIA (Autumn}
https://vortexgear.store/products/multix-104-via

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is the Dactyl Manuform still the best split keyboard design, or has technology advanced beyond that?

>>107295795
>no F12

>>107295841
it's probably in layer #2...

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what is the gayest F key? I think it's F7

>>107296211
F8

>>107296211
>>107295876
Insert

>>107296223
that's useful on certain BIOSes, for boot menu or stuff.

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>>107291382
Time to join the curved keywell master race.
>>107295795
There's not a whole lot you could do to improve the dactyl, and I've done a number of them. A way to change the tenting angle that's easy, sturdy, and doesn't change the height of the board would be nice. Not sure how possible nailing all three requirements would be though.

I love heavy Xinhais so much bros

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I found an old keyboard whit one of those big 5 DIN connectors, may it work whit a 5DIN to PS2/ mini din 6 to USB ?

>>107296320
>may it work whit a 5DIN to PS2/ mini din 6 to USB ?
i don't see why not

>be me
>buy chinese corne
>works perfectly after 3 years
>only cost $70, has bluetooth, and included a case
>buy European keeb
>cost $300 (including jizya tax)
>also have to solder it myself, like it’s the 1700s
>no case, only a plate that I paid $50 extra for
>exploded into little bits because I typed haram things

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>>107295620
Excellent, if I had known this existed I would have bought it from start instead of going through some 60% no-name board and an old K95 on my way just because I wanted media keys and an ANSI layout. I've already spent more on them combined than it would have just to get one of these. Such is the learning curve I suppose.

>>107297030
is it compatible with VIA tho?

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>>107297030
I especially appreciate the function row being positioned as close to the 5th row as possible as opposed to half a row or half a unit.

Chassis looks real nice and well layered too. God, I wish I didn't get so sucked up into the money sink already. Guess I can still sell off my other keyboards and get some of my money back.

have the next thread be rape keyboard themed

>>107297628
>>107297628
new