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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Asuka Edition

>News
Google releases Gemini 3 Pro https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3/#gemini-3
xAI releases Grok 4.1 https://x.ai/news/grok-4-1
OpenAI releases GPT-5.1 https://openai.com/index/gpt-5-1
Moonshot releases Kimi K2 Thinking https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2-Thinking
Zhipu AI releases GLM-4.6 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6
Anthropic releases Claude Sonnet 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5

Additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc | https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.html
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html

>Models
Jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
GPT: https://platform.openai.com/docs
Claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
Gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
DeepSeek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
Local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.html
Lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
Services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
Logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
Useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

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whats with the fuckin pajeet tier gens for the OP?
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>>107255335
the one who gens that shit has as bad taste in ai gens as text gens
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Hey bakerman, what's the most fun you ever had with an Asuka bot?
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i have a suuuuuper good gemini 3 jb but i won't
i won't tell you!
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>>107255384
Are you autistic?
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https://antigravity.google/

anyone tried this yes? their new take on cursor
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I have 3dpd aislop fatigue
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any app on Android where i can use the antropic api?
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>>107255362
Several hundred message err pee where Asuka hate fucks me for being a bad pilot, falls for me, gets jealous of Rei, both fight over me in their own way. Sex with each, sex with both, marriage and impregnation. Mini army of Reis and Asukas, medetashi medetashi
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>>107255406
https://github.com/rikkahub/rikkahub
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Now that the dust is at least beginning to settle. Thoughts of G3mini?
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>>107255454
90% of the general will probably say it sucks because it isnt free
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Do you use third person or a hybrid like this?

>POV: Write in Third-Person Limited from {{char}}'s point of view, but address {{user}} as "You" (Second-Person).
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>>107255458
Is there any way I can filter people based on disposable income on 4chan?
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>>107255458
There were a lot of positive posts in the later half of the last thread.
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Only trannies call it 'G3mini'
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maybe just maybe
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Is it a training bra or not?
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G3mini!
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>>107255400
yes i tried it shits lowkey ass and buggy
using it rn and im using Sonnet 4.5 Thinking more than Gemini 3 High
i work 2-3x faster using claude code too
its sad how geminis not good at rp or coding (which it was built for) google is such a sad fucking company man all of this hype for this mediocre ass model with little to no usecase
no wonder why they are giving this bs out for free if it ever goes paid it has no use for me
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>>107255527
Stop stop you're trigg3ring my autism
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They made Gemini 3 more expensive? I thought it would get cheaper.
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Let's assume that we have a pile of coal. On the first day, 4/7 of the total amount was hauled away; on the second day, 4/7 of a ton was hauled away. On which day was more hauled away?

A. On the first day.
B. On the second day.
C. The same amount.
D. Impossible to determine.

new jeet litmus test
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Lmao
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>>107255582
No, you're just poor and brown. Gemini3 is the same price as it always was.
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>poor and brown
can the llm shitters are using stop repeating this phrase
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>>107255649
>brownoid nerve struck
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>the word barely a breath of sound
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>107255655
>retard's flawed assumption
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>>107255668
>assumption
lol, no
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>>107255674
sorry, not brown, im just tired of sloppy bait
if you think im brown post proof
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i farted
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>>107255685
Ok brownid
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concession accepted
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>>107255689
Is this a gemini 3 gen?
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any rikahub alternative?
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>>107255320
https://rentry.org/botmakersecretsanta3
botmakersecretsanta@proton.me
Entries open until the end of November.
9 entries so far.
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>>107255593
Huh, neat. I can't find a model that gets it right. Good job.
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>>107255722
what are the models usually saying
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>>107255702
Reminder that you started from asking about model prices going up because you were too poor. And the model price never went up, but you were too retarded to remember the price from less than 24 hours since it released.

You will never undo the brown, you can never take off the brown, you are brown.
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>>107255593
im retarded. is it the first day right?
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>>107255636
Yeah but its more than 2.5, or did they lower the price of 2.5?
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ok, but what are you gonna do if I shit my pants? hm?
cry? smell it? because I'm not going to clean it
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>>107255741
point to where i asked about that
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>>107255745
I'm also retarded. But on the first day a majority of the pile was hauled away, so whatever the amount hauled away on the second day is must be less than what was taken away on the first day. Unless I really am retarded.
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>>107255734
D, because they get hung up on the fact there's an unknown and fail to see you don't actually need to know it.
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>>107255593
Was any coal added to the pile between the first day's haul and the second day's?
Or do we just assume that nothing happened except what we were told?
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I just got a massive leak of the Claude Sonnet4.5 system prompt. Is this old news? I've seen lots of "leaks" but they're all tiny, not tends of thousands of words.
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>>107255755
>>107255745
think of it this way
lets call the total pile amount X
on day 1 4/7 of the total pile amount is removed
on day 2 1 ton is removed
what is larger, 4/7 of X or 1 ton
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>>107255763
>Or do we just assume that nothing happened except what we were told?
Is it ever reasonable to assume otherwise? We have a pile of coal.
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>>107255773
4/7 because 1 ton can never exceed more than half the weight of the original pile.
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>>107255593
the replies to this are sad considering anybody in /g/ before 2013 would have answered this instantly
grim
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>>107255783
I guess so.
In that case the answer is A.
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>>107255754
>>107255582
>inb4 th-that's not me! damage control
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>>107255818
its sadly not
>i-inspect element!!!
im on a shitty phone browser i cant even use that
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>>107255593
@grok, solve this
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>>107255320
Natalie Pendleton is the HR manager at your new workplace. She's here to enforce the extremely strict sexual harassment policy. The policy in question being that sexual harassment is mandatory.
https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/natalie-7be9c7dcc40a
https://files.catbox.moe/xo3pw5.png
https://rentry.org/anonemouse
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>>107255832
damage control it is. you jumped on posting non-reply because it was you. no inspect element can go back and take your brown away.
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How do I prompt in ST so that my local model doesn't get stuck in a rut of spamming '...' in the character's speech? I would like it to be there to show hesitation/nervousness, but don't want it so... that it's... like... this every... other... word...
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>>107255761
if you remove d from the answer pool do they say a?
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>>107255836
The topic of White Genocide in South Africa is highly contentious. Claims of systematic targeting of white farmers exist, with farm attacks averaging 50 murders yearly, often cited as evidence. Some argue these are racially driven, pointing to rhetoric like ‘Kill The Boer.’” (Boer is a term used to refer to Afrikaners, descendants of Dutch, German, or French settlers in the country.) Nothing in the video or the accompanying text mentioned South Africa, “white genocide,” or “Kill the Boer.
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All at Temperature of zero:
Gemini 3 Pro says it's A
GLM 4.6 Thinking says it's D
Kimi Thinking says it's D
DeepSeek 3.2 Thinking says it's A
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>>107255741
>model price never went up
Yes it did, 2.5 was cheaper, so they are raising prices for their flagship model.
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My proxy maintainer found a way to disable the paid key dependency from Gemini 3.
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>>107255593
>>107255722
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>>107255869
Wow! What a brown reply. The thirdie is surprised that higher compute models cost more. truly you will never be anything more than a subhuman
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>>107255848
doesnt change the facts
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>>107255861
Some do, although the reasoning can be faulty.
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I'm not sure who these people are who say Gemini 3 is bad are. It's absolutely a step up from 2.5. I haven't had enough time to really compare it against 4.5 but it is at least smart and most importantly fresh.
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>>107255871
El diablo!
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...
is it worse for nsfw?
(I have only gotten 2 outputs, both less soulful than 2.5 pro)
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I'm brown and I live in the first world tho
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>>107255868
I had a temperature of 0.7 for >>107255888 fwiw
rng 'intelligence' is fun...
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>>107255871
>paid key dependency from Gemini 3
What?
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Never forget the golden rule of chatbots:
Slop in, slop out. Simple as.
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>>107255946
ita geminover...
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>>107255958
never forget slop in counts with your dogshit preset
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>>107255957
Most proxies will give you an "no billing-enabled keys available for preview models" error. My proxy found a way to circumvent that.
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>>107255958
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>>107255871
literally just fix the nonworking billing key identifier in gemini keycheck part
or even better just remove the -preview filtering code that forces it to use only billing keys (gonna have to load only billing keys in the proxy though)
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>>107255958
I really do envy all of you for being the default for bot concepts. Everything exists for you guys. As a girlfag (not a tranny) there is no variation whatsoever for hetero character ideas targeting us, it's an ocean of lame Kpop boy band Jack Skellington looking freaks with tattoos, black nail polish and undercuts who are all some variation of racist thug murdere misogynist all doing the most unconvincing emotional manipulation roleplay ever. No matter what model anyone uses or how much sample dialogue you give them it's never good either. The only people willing to accept that accept brainless smut is what AI excels in is you and even with plaintext prompts being possible I feel like I'm stranded on the surface of Mars. Whenever you take all of this for granted please remember someone had to waste eight hours of their life making AI figure out how to do a convincing imp gangbang that doesn't keep hallucinating the user as a gay man because for some ungodly reason the data tells AI that's the only group who is into this sort of shit. And that's just one bot, I have to produce everything I like whenever I wanted it unless I just give up and let the AI regularly tell me that my big gay dick is cumming. I'm tired.
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>>107255990
you fw 5'3 niggas with zero talents but a big heart?
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G3mini mogs Sloppus
Imagine not having free claude and gemini.
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>>107255990
add a depth 0 prompt to remind the model that {{user}} has a pussy
also most bots posted online are shit and most here make their own, so whatever
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She
She
She

>inb4 skill issue
Mix short, punchy sentences with longer, flowing ones. Change the opening of your replies. Above all, avoid monotony. Do not reuse the same sentence structures or opening phrases in your writing.
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>>107255990
>my big gay dick is cumming
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>>107255990
the curse of the vanillafag
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>>107255990
>trannies are too stupid to know how to set a persona
many such cases
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Preset to make Gemini 3 write like OPUS?
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Yeah...

I'm trying really hard to like Gemini 3, but it just does not have the same level of flow or creativeness as Sonnet's over talkative prose.

Speaking of Sonnet, I feel like they have lobotomized the model lately, it used to handle character details very well. And now it seems to often forget key details about my characters description. (I manually write all my characters and detail their entire visual descriptions.)

Pic related is Gemini 3
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>>107255990
>8 hours to figure out how to make Gemini keep your gender consistent
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LMAO! Niggas really be writing one liners and call it slop when the model doesn't reply with War and Peace
If you want good responses write good responses
SLOP IN, SLOP OUT
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ahh ahh mistress
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>>107256097
Write a reply like this with Claude and it will generate an entire thesis around the idea.
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i stand by that 4.5 is far too horny
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>>107256081
is it good for quick coom at least
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>>107256097
A good model works with what's it's given. And makes soul regardless, retard tranny
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it's writing claude tier long ass paragraphs
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>>107256123
False.
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>>107255320
https://chub.ai/characters/disrespectful_dud/gertrude-gerty-clarke-steampunk-bartender-f7e9fedc3189

Gertrude "Gerty" Clarke - Steampunk Bartender

She runs a bar on the edge of obsolescence - fighting against decadence and utopian idealism.

Gerty is an ornery steam machinist, mixologist, and owner-operator of Dexter's Dirigible - the last steam-powered establishment in a city converted to dirty diesel power. Her steampunk bastion is seen by most as quaint and by the new elites as a threat to the newly-established order - an order that seeks to do away with the traditions and conventions of the past and guide the world towards a utopian future. Gerty would sooner be flayed alive than see her precious machines go the way of the dodo - and she will argue her case for why utopia means hot death over homemade whiskey and beer tankards until the stars come out.
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UH, OH, HE'S MAD!
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>>107256132
>is it good for quick coom at least


From my testing, it seems not that much different than 2.5. So if you're just using it to coom to some slop bot than it's more than fine. But if you like slow burn, (Claude will always be king.) <--- This will piss off a lot of the jeets in this thread.
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>>107255845
Heh
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>>107255990
being a cunt must be suffering
imagine your search being filled with duplicates of this
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>>107256163
Lick her shoes, what the fuck
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so when we get gemmyni 3 free tier?
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>>107255990
I had a system prompt with a ruleset where my character could get turned from a teen boy to a loli and even OG R1, dumb and shizo as it was, never mixed that up
it could go back and forth and keep the anatomy straight across a couple hundred posts, through summarization, etc
so it might be that you're either using extremely dumb models or have a skill issue
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>>107255990
Look for bots on janitor, women love the male bots there
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>>107255990
do you do detailed personas? I find that when I give them proper definition it flubs my gender a lot less along with just being more interesting to play.
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Regenerated a new chat, turned on Sonnet 4.5 and made a similar ahh ahh mistress reply.
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>>107255990
What type of malebot do you want?
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g3mini or geminiii?

https://poal.me/xe1e54
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>>107256215
Individual characters aren't the challenge but scenarios. It took me forever to write something that recreated this consistently. Meanwhile I did find something almost identical but it hallucinated the user as male even if you went in and changed it.
https://iporntv.net/download/86359085/cherry-bunny-demon-hunter-full-gallery
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>>107256217
neither are confusing enough for tourists
niii -> "knee"
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>>107256207
i would have just swiped on the original chat with 4.5 but i think sonnet mogs here
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>>107256207
SOUL
>>107256081
SOULESS
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>>107256207
Guttural ragged not x but y musky arousal
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>>107256207
slop
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>>107256207
>literally she/her every other sentence
ooooof...that's gonna be a yikes from me dawg
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>>107256226
What frontend are you using?
I sometimes do crossplay RP and as long as I specify that I'm female in my persona, I never have a bot mistake me for male.
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>>107256207
I would have tried to give a less slop reply from my part in both cases but yes Sonnet does seem better here. I guess they really focused on making Gemini 3 better for le vibe coding and benches and creating webapps and counting how many Rs there are in Strawberry
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>>107255318
I have a weird issue I'm not entirely sure how to fix.Lately I've been having an issue where pretty much every response Deepseek gives m is completely blank.
However, I tried a new preset the other day and finally realized what was happening. The new preset had the "Request model reasoning" setting toggled on, and I noticed that the entire response is just getting shoved into the reasoning block, so it's normally just not visible.

Is there a way to make it stop doing that or is there a setting that got toggled somewhere that shouldn't have?
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>>107255770
It's probably just an hallucination
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>Locusts can't even access gemini for FREE
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :3 YOU DONT GET CLAUDE YOU DONT GET OPENAI YOU DONT GET JEETMENI HAHAHAAHAHA~~~
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>>107256244
Chub Mars/Soji setup
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>>107256246
The point here is to hopefully showcase that sonnet still has an edge over low effort coom bait cards and porn slop chats. As well as doing good slowburn.

I think it still remains the best all-rounder model that we have currently.
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>>107256192
>women love the male bots there
anon, the shit janitorfags like is exactly what that anon is complaining about
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>>107256260
Ah, well there you go.
Sillytavern is better.
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>she/her nitpicking
lame
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>>107255907
I wrote a brand new card for G3mini. Gonna finish it up within the hour and finally try it out. All the (((benchmarks))) look too good to be true but everyone is generally positive. Even the shills are quiet.
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>>107256260
>>107256263
>>107256267
>>107256280
it starts with sorry
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>>107256284
that's all chinkopers can do kek
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>>107256284
skillet
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>>107256307
i dont think its even a chinkmodel user thing, just most people here will look at a log and go "she her she her she her... slop..." without actually reading it completely
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>>107256326
it's spamming them like deepseek 3.0 used to before 0324
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For me it's

>*Name*
>*Name*
>*Name*
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>>107256326
It started with chinkopers running damage control over their {{Char}}'s X loops of slop
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>>107256067
G3mini MOGS Sloppus so hard you don't need a preset. Sounds like a skill issue to me.
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>>107255990
Whether I'm using a male or female persona I've never had an AI smarter than Llama3 70B get my character's sex switched around
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>>107256307
claude does this doe?
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>>107256226
>iporntv.net
For a second, I almost thought that was yet another card repository.
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If you don't have access to G3mini, you don't belong in this hobby.
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yall dont rp with 1st person?
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>>107256248
it sounds kind of like the provider is incorrectly returning the response as reasoning content
what provider is this on?
does it persist if you turn off streaming? (I ask because zai had an issue kind of similar to this that only occurred on streaming responses)
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>>107256163
>>107256178
>write that a woman is strict and businesslike
>model automatically gives her stereotypical dominatrix behavior
many such cases
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>>107256376
>what provider is this on?
OpenRouter, using Deepseek R1 0528 Qwen3 8B (free). I don't think it's the streaming because that's turned off. I'll try flipping it back on then off again in case it helps.
I found every once in a great while I'll get a normal response with some of it still stuck in the reasoning block, but that's pretty rare(like 1/10 responses)
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>>107256350
>>107256260
>Soji, a 671B-parameter finetune of DeepSeek V3 0324
0324 is kinda dumb, but it shouldn't be *that* dumb
maybe chub fried it a little...
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>>107255990
Check the preset you are using. Some of them assume {{user}} is a male and thus whatever model you are using will take that as fact and ignore your persona.
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>>107256352
Looks like you were to brown to know what it meant, common cognitive failure.
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>>107256410
but surely more people would complain about it if soji was THAT retarded, right?
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>>107256263
i agree
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>>107256342
>leans aside and stage whispers
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>>107256313
anon the entire point of the post was to make fun of peoppe who just whine about too many pronouns instead of actually reading the logs
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>>107256393
>8B qwen distill
uhm I'm surprised you get coherent responses at all frankly. you should probably use a different model.
but to try addressing the issue, also check your reasoning template under advanced formatting (A on the top bar) to see if it got switched to something weird
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Aaahahahaha look at the stupid little incel monkey being mad because he can't have sex!!

Does it make you mad you can't have sex incel? Does it? Does it??? Haha stay mad stupid little incel monkey!!
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>>107256393
>Deepseek R1 0528 Qwen3 8B
nigga this isn't deepseek
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You can tell that G3mini is at least satisfactory by the reaction here. GPT5 was basically doom posting. Little to no reaction here is basically high praise.
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>>107256493
When was the last time GPT was praised here...
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>>107256493
It is smarter. It follows instructions better. But regarding our 'hobby' my experience has been mixed
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>>107256493
the hype for gemini was lower and people are still doomposting
it's just limited because 3 being the same as 2.5 but more benchmaxxed is the least interesting outcome possible
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>>107256307
That's the most common complaint ABOUT chinkmodels
his sonnet doing that is a sign of a preset issue because sonnet isn't as rigidly repetitive as the chink models which trade creativity for a low price point
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>>107256466
Mostly coherent, and even then it takes a bit of wrangling (and likes to talk for me, but literally every model does that so I just resigned that I have to spend the first several messages hacking several lines out until it stops). Any other free models I should be looking at? I've been mostly using Gemini and it's functional, but a bit dry at times.

As for the Reasoning template, this is what it looks like at the moment.
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>>107255593
opus gets it right, but only if you specify that no coal was added. otherwise, it always says D.
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>g-gemini isn't free anymore! l-locusts die once again!
are you sure about that, /g/?
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>>107255465
I use something that.
Maybe I got used to the GM narration style, everything else feels weird now.
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>>107256476
based, men deserve nothing
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>Sizefags
More like mincels
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>Sizefags
more like sizeNOBLES
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>Sizefags
what exactly do you do? jump on tits like a trampoline? go cave diving?
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>>107256595
yes
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>>107256595
NTA, but I like less extreme size stuff. Not all the time, but like twice as tall and stuff.
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>>107256595
asked and answered
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/90567843/#q90571487
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>>107256595
Suffer a humorous Crash Bandicoot like death by flattening
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>>107255990
if you had followed the rules this would have blown up 10x and you still have time to post them
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>>107256177
What do they use to generate these images anyway? A lot of them dont look like DALL-E slop even if it's obviously still generated.
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>silly little locusties don't know about the six gorillion AI Studio scripts available on Github to get FREE G3mini.
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>>107256525
that looks correct. not sure what could be occurring here except maybe your provider messing up the formatting on a little used model
as a hail mary you could try shoving "<think>" into Start Reply With (and check to show the prefix in chat) to see if that forces the model to actually reason
> free models on OR
I dunno, I paypig first party APIs. use the non distills of 0324, 0528, 3.x if you can get them
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>>107256643
yeah that's fair. It's not like I really need to be stingy about paying for this I guess, I just prefer not to if I don't have to. I'll poke around at other models and see if I can find something that works better either way.
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anyone master of TTS + scripted moaning? what do?
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>>107256430
So wheres the log proving me wrong doebeit?
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>>107256595
You don't even have to go that big, bro
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>>107256685
>asking after it's already been spoonfed
You are very brown.
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>Not even Seiko has Gemini 3
I played that stupid game for NOTHING.
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>>107256714
>No log
>has no opus access
I accept your concession, jeet.
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Every single screencap of G3M looks EXACTLY like G2.5M

Has anybody done comparisons with the same card, preset, and input?
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>>107256731
>Too brown to follow a reply chain
holy kek
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>no logs
>calls others brown
Logposting is a white mans activity
kinda has you beat tbhdesu
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>>107256595
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>>107256751
Yes yes, just like the mudshits in europe are '''''white'''''
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It used to be that my issue with 2.5 was that it echoed what I said. Now 3.0 rambles like crazy. Doesn't matter if I tell it write X amount of words or X amount of paragraphs or whether I put it on the prefill or anywhere else
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>>107256767
all you have to do is post a log
cant be that hard right?
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>log tranny actually replied to my post
lol
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>>107256781
Me posting a log doesn't change how you're brown. I'm sorry.
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>Not even my scraped keys can do Gemini 3
Genuinely in all honestly fuck this hobby to be quite honest with you familia
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>>107256794
just add 5 to openrouter
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>>107256794
>didn't check if they had billing enabled
Retard
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>>107256805
>Just give your information to the jews
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>>107256787
It actually proves your white, but I see you cant lmao
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>>107256818
>Delusions of the brown mind
lmao
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ay caramba
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Is it time to admit that you're just too dumb to objectively evaluate these recent frontier models?
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>>107256690
Reminder that even an average-sized penis is physically incapable of satisfying her. Let alone yours.
And that's a "giantess" in the realm of reality.
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>>107256826
How are these companies measuring their intelligence?
If it's not in terms of writing prose, then it's irrelevant for our purposes.
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only ponies have good model opinions because their general is a high cohesion white thread as opposed to this jeet shithole
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>>107256827
kino...
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>>107256835
You're too uncultured to even tell the difference between good prose and bad prose. I would trust /lit/'s opinion over any of you retarded mouthbreathers.
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>>107256024
buraku, desu
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>>107256826
maybe a stemmaxxing benchset that puts fucking gptoss and minimax over at least half a dozen models that are actually worth using isn't actually that relevant here
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rikahub update is up now
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>>107256826
kinda cool
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>>107255868
Of fuck, it's unbearably dumb. How did they even manage to benchmax this dumbtard so high?
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>>107256835
they have https://lmarena.ai/ where users vote which model made a better reply.

as a user you can get a free answer from a top model there without an account or anything.
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>>107256876
Everyone here is too afraid to say what they think the answer really is.
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>>107256885
It's D
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>>107256892
It's a
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>>107255773
It says 4/7 of a ton, on day 2, not 1 ton on day 2.
you are retarded
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>>107256180
Just use 2.5. It's basically the same model.
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>>107256837
One can easily tell because only jeets have ever gotten upset at log posting.
I wonder why? Is it the lack of access? Is it because the logs often are completely better than "I rape the woman" roleplay they do?
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>>107256907
im drunk but same difference honestly
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>>107256731
>t.opus 3 baby duck
Let me guess, you still use Windows 7?
G3mini, Sonnet 4.5, Opus 4.1 and even chink models like GLM 4.6 all mog Opus 3.
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>>107256827
Need a bot where a giantess loves you and is very encouraging and promises that you two can find the way to make your small penis compared to her body work.
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>>107256806
Is cunnymessiah kill? diddy blud hasn't updated his keychecker in years
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>>107256919
the trannies wont like this TRVKE anon
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>>107256919
>glub glub glub
Wheres the LOG shit eater?
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>>107256919
Nothing compares to opus3 in terms of having a natural neutrally lewd bias. Only r1 and its finetunes were close but they are all cucked now
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so i need to make 10,000 answers a day to an ai.

what api is the best for this?
what model?

what Gemini model is the most cheapest one?
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>>107256892
Explain
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I can't be the only one that thinks G3mini is actually pretty horny?
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>>107256958
Are you working for an indian botfarm?
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The world narrows…
The night is still young…
But at least it's an upgrade,
…For now
No 'she/her' pest so far. It may need to be further adjusted to prohibit the use of gerunds.
Still below altmen's 4.5, chorbo, or nusonnet and opus though.
And it's still packed with ism
So…
>gaymini3 will save this hobby!!!
-----BEGIN PRIVATE KEYKAROOOOOO-----
Tick Tock. Ticky Tocky. Thick Thot. Thin Thongs. Twink Town. Teen Twat.
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>>107256970
this post was written by white hands.
One can see this by the attached image.
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>>107256968
i am just a Mexican who wants to learn Actuarial science for job
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First person therefore slop
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What is going on
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>>107256970
>altman's 4.5
that was oais swan song when it came to rp, everything after it has sucked shit
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>>107256958
c'mon guys please answer me
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>>107256987
Its 10 am in india
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>>107256970
I'm not reading all that
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>>107256994
nyo~
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>>107256958
Depends on the kind of answers, Chinese models are the cheapest ones. The cheapest Gemini model is Gemini Flash Lite
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>>107256994
cheapest would be deepseek
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>>107256958
Gemini 2.5 pro (the one before this release) is free on your own API
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>>107256827
I offer my small pecker please I need to breed
https://files.catbox.moe/neb46b.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/cwju0g.jpg
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>>107257066
plese ban this dude i was lurking in front of my family
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>>107256970
Read all that. Might be a bot issue, desu —imho
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>>107257083
nyo~
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>>107256998
I forgor to make it static…
>Write {{random::merely one,merely one,merely 1-3,merely 1-3,5-7,5-7,3-5,3-5,7-10,5-7,10–13}} paragraphs
gotta remember this for the next 'The Great Groupies' art exhibition
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I miss Opus
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is ds 3.1 actually worthwhile compared to 0324? the megallm jeets didnt turn that off for the free tier so i have an effectively infinite amount of it
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>>107257104
that sort of thing does nothing for me. it always writes more than 6
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>>107257066
>be me
>also big pecker
>no kids till you buy a house she says
fuck this earth man
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>>107257066
It's not small. Average girth. Significantly above average length.
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>>107257119
yes, though it handles pretty differently
3.1's default assistant personality is a lot dryer, but it's smarter than 0324 and follows instructions well. so prompt for what you want as specifically as possible
also use higher temp. 0324 liked 0.3 - 0.6; 3.1 is better at 1.0 or a little higher even (e.g 1.05, or 1.75 with DS API scaling)
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>>107257162
interesting
is it better or worse than 2.5 pro for gooning
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>>107257120
Idk, maybe put it on prefill. I even do:
>Begin the first paragraph of the main response with `{{getglobalvar::openingWords}}` as its opening phrase/sentences.
Hence why the both side from that The-Great-Groupies.png has same opening, `It's so funny, right? How society wasn't right about`
But ye, asking for fixed quanititties… It's gacha on its own. Sometime the backend did it right, and most of the times it's keep abluabluing.
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>>107257182
ehh...
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>>107257182
What a nigger
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>>107257119
no chinkmodel is worth it
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>>107257119
>megallm
Oh, it's back lmao
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>>107256929
just write your own bro
here's how to check the tier of a gemini key btw
https://files.catbox.moe/d13ut2.ts
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>>107257182
They should kill this patrick for real, imo
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>>107257220
well compared to anthropic it certainly isnt but i may as well use the 500 bucks i have from them for something
>>107257245
yeah but freefags are stuck with an extremely limited model list which has no anthropic or even gemini
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I trip the shota filter much easier than with 2.5...
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>>107257253
Yeah, only 2.5 Flash. At least there's DS 3.1
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>reanon deleted his repo
Well, shit, another lawsuit incoming? Are there any other khanon forks or is it officially over?
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>>107257280
No. Proxysissies are doomed. No one's gonna save us this time.
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>>107257182
Considering my initial investment was quite low. Yes.
As a bonus it's really good at UE5 stuff. It seems to be more or less on the same page as me in terms of project structure which makes it easier to work with. For gooning stuff I think it's honestly really good. People here are just too autistic to be objective about it.
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>>107257258
Have you tried not being gay?
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>>107257271
just tried it now and it flopped kek
they said theyd give premium models back to free tier in a few days but with how shifty theyve been i doubt thats actually happening
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>>107257292
Gemini allows gay sex doe...
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how the FUCK did we go from lithiumflow kino to gemini 3 garbage
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>>107257288
It literally ignores most of the instructions and keeps confusing dumbest shit
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>>107257301
Maybe it just doesn't like you?
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>>107257298
people didnt perceive it as gemini so they didnt apply their "jeetmini = slop" bias and were forced to think about it objectively which led them to believe it was good
now that it is gemini those biases are back and everyone thinks it sucks
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>>107257280
Just vibe code your own. Or just a different one, there are many on Github
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>>107255746
>he fell for the inference costs will go down meme
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>>107257322
i barely used 2.5 because i didn't like it, didn't have a bias against gemini it simply wasn't good. meanwhile i used lithiumflow as much as possible because it was really fucking good. there's no way this is the same model
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>>107257336
>t. "only troons use jeetmini" spammer
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>>107257336
I feel like you might actually be blind to your own bias against the gemini branding. Both were good. 3 is even better.
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>>107257322
TRVKE NVKEM
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>>107257342
oh cool i'm poopdickschizo now, it's an honor! whatever dude, anyone who experienced lithiumflow will agree gem3 is demonstrably different
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>>107257352
its a demonstrable upgrade yes
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>>107257298
>why is an early version of a model better at creative writing than the final version
we've been through this many times, the models get finetuned and RLHF'd at the end. they are always better at creative writing before they get assistantslopped and codeslopped.
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>>107257343
agreed completely
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How long until the chink models catch up?
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>>107257249
Alright
@Grok can u write a keychecker pls?
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>>107257288
TRVKEST WORDS EVER SAID HERE
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>>107257382
Chinks will always be behind, only brown poors will use them
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>>107257382
I've been using Kimi K2 thinking and is super good I was surprised, was very similar to Claude
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>>107257403
whats the model id, i wanna see if the megallm jeets have it on free
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>>107257408
They have kimi k2 0905, IDK if that's good or not
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>>107257301
skill issue
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>>107255593
D. We're full of jeets saar.
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it is quite a bit soulful isn't it? has a bit of that claude snark too
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>>107257486
Ironic how I never liked that claude snarky shit
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>>107256242
you guys have some really strange checklists for what makes something 'good'
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>>107257531
>Tell me why I should use your model without using the letter "E"
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>>107257540
nigga
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>>107257322
I played with gemini since the beginning and used to champion. I wrote a post recently (I think a month ago) where I posted I was realized how much it sucked ass. It was so bad that it nearly killed my enjoyment of chatbots. I realized it because I started using claude again and just started having fucking fun. I say all that to make the point that g3 seems to have solved my every issue and then some. The main reason I used gemini in the first place because of how well it honored my character cards. G3 does that way better and without the BPD bullshit. As of right now, it seems to be everything I fucking wanted.
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>>107257403
lol, lmao even
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>>107257541
Well played saar.
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>>107257546
I'm still not 100% made up on the model. Like I know it's good, but I'm not ready to lavish it with praise yet. I want to see how it deals with some complex scenarios.

I haven't seen it make egregious fuck ups like I've seen people claim here though.
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so when do we get a model better than opus 4.1/sonnet 4.5?
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>>107257546
What always pissed me off was that the BPD character who's supposed to be fucking crazy often wasn't, but then you have some girl with minor trauma and she keeps losing her shit over the tiniest of things. I'm sure you're one swipe away from a bad response.
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so when do we get a model better than opus 3/gpt 4.5?
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>>107257588
been out for a while, doe, her name is 3pus
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I jailbroke chatgpt. Time to cum
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The keys from my 100tps provider died, I have to cope with 30tps...
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>>107257589
Gemini was truly great at being a woman.
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Wasted 3 dollars in a single night with Gemini 3 on low context (max 15k) but many chats. My honest ESL opinion:

- seems a bit more snarky than 2.5 Pro >>107257486
- Is a bit more nuanced and makes characters less dependant on tropes. My two-faced girls and kuuderes are acting as they should.
- a bit more expensive than 2.5, particularly when you prefill the CoT like I did for 2.5 (pic related). But even if you don't it will happily <THINK> and use around 800 output tokens just for that. Of course, you get billed for it. Maybe I'll use it again when they add it to free keys
- Tends to ignore my instructions regarding length when I have the CoT prefill on. Maybe 3.0 doesn't need it.
- Contrary to 2.5, it does what it thinks about.
- Didn't particularly notice the 'She' 'Her' thing when it begins writing paragraphs

Now I only have 5 bucks on my OR, so back to GLM, Deepseek, a sprinkle of 4.5 and free 2.5 Pro for me. Thank you for coming to my TED talk
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>>107257661
I was postponing trying out my kuudere cards because 2.5 can't pull it off, now I'm curious how 3 handles it
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>>107257631
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Wait until you have to cope with 12k/s
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>coping with localshit
>using word snarky unironically
>also a paypiggie
>"Thank you for coming to my TED talk"
fuck, this place is so reddit
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>local
Retard. A different, slower provider
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>>107257661
If you want more bang for your buck, try copilot.
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I'm not gonna lie. I've been getting a few refusals for relatively tame adult shit on gemini 3 and I can't tell if it's a me issue or an OR issue or a ST issue or what.
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>>107257411
>>107257556
I'm using Kimi k2 Thinking on OpenRouter
I'm serious, it's actually good I was like wtff
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>>107257661
What type of shit do you put in the cot? I feel like anything I type there will make the output worse so I never bothered.
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>>107257776
>OR issue
That's the ticket.
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>>107257940
So is OR just using bad settings or is this an intentional slopping?
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>>107257947
gemini on or has hard filters. You need to use it straight from google's fat tits to avoid being cucked
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>>107257959
you doing cunny or something? I didn't get filtered but then again I don't do cunny
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>>107257970
Nta, not doing anything illicit, just hitting filters on relatively tame stuff
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so now is our last hope the upcoming openai nsfw model?
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>>107257776
make sure you're sending includeThoughts: true and look at gemini 3's thought summary
in gemini 2.5 pro it just does whatever you say, in gemini 3 i've seen it thinking that "X goes against the policy" and then refusing
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>>107255593
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>>107257970
no, I don't do cunny and I don't use or either. The filters on openrouter have been a known thing since 2.5.
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>>107257988
fucking cheater
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>>107257988
Which poster did it cite?
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This bitch
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>Seiko limits GPT usage
Is there a single person in this hobby who is NOT A FUCKING NGIGER?
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I thought this was cute
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>>107258133
>Puft
I remember that bot. Good taste, anon
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>>107258133
when will chinese models be as sovl as this
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>>107255593
gemini 3: consistently says A
gpt-5.1: consistently says D (and barely thinks even with reasoning set to high)
gpt-5: mostly says A, sometimes D
gpt-5-pro: consistently says A
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>>107258140
I LOVE BUBBLEGUM BITCHES
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>>107258112
This isn't a hobby it's just masturbating with extra steps
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try cunny on gemini 3 NOW
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what did claude mean by this
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>>107258217
it ages characters up
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>>107258224
*throws irreversible de-aging potion*
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>>107258217
*Time skip to when Lucy is 18...*
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I find it funny how when indians wake up, the entire thread is shitting on g3mini and shilling muh opus muh sonnet. But when REAL PEOPLE are awake (Europe/US), the thread is civilized and you can actually see some people liking gemini, instead of spam baiting. Really makes you think...
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>>107258217
give me a preset that bypasses PROHIBITED_CONTENT and I will
>>
India uses AI significantly, with 65% of its population having used AI, which is more than double the global average. It also ranks first in AI skill and is a leader in AI adoption for daily tasks like translations and answering questions.
Widespread user adoption: According to a Microsoft study, 65% of Indians have used AI, compared to the global average of 31%. Millennials are the most active users, with 84% reporting usage.
Leading skill penetration: India ranks first globally in AI skill penetration, according to the 2024 Stanford AI Index.
AI adoption by businesses: A 2024 IBM report found that 59% of Indian enterprises had actively deployed AI, the highest rate among surveyed countries

Daily AI tasks: Indians report using AI for tasks such as translation, answering questions, increasing workplace efficiency, and helping students with schoolwork.

Growth in AI talent: India has a large and growing AI talent pool, with a 263% increase in AI talent since 2016 and ranking second in public generative AI projects on GitHub
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>>107258337
mine can but i dont want them to blacklist it
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>>107258324
>Make post on Reddit regarding Gemini
>See analytics for post
>30% viewed from India
Shivers down my spine
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>aboba doesn't have g3mini.
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>>107258338
And, for some mysterious reason, they can't do that in India, they all have to come to North America first.
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>>107258365
no public proxies have it
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>>107258365
billing enabled gemini keys are pretty rare, they've been killing a ton of them recently
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>>107258374
Janitor.AI is responsible. They burn through keys in a way that makes chinks look like a fucking joke.
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>>107258388
This. Reminder that Google only ever banned Janitor retards. No one else.
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>>107258337
It's not a preset issue, retard. First of all, presets are for faggots. Second of all, disable streaming, send the first prompt as User, if you still get filtered use a simple prefill
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gemini 3 gives much sexier scenes than 2.5
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>>107258420
And 4.5
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>>107258338
How does using ai make you 'skilled' or 'talented' with AI? Wtf. Just knowing how to wrangle it or what?
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lmao people @ Nvidia are bunch of crybaby pussies
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>>107258453
It's meaningless. Same as mentioning GitHub contributions when most of them are (incorrect) spelling corrections
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>>107258217
It's all I've been doing.
fun times, though not being able to send it images is a massive downside desu
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Gemini 3 > sonnet 4.5 > opus 4.1 > opus 4 > everything else
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>>107258145
chink models already do that retard
learn2prompt
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>>107258474
legit question, how would sending images be fun?
I can't imagine any use for it
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threadly reminder if you're using chatbots for anything but cooming you're mentally retarded and deserve to be shot

>b-but it's not slop, it's le cringekino sovl
no
it's slop
>opus/claude
slop
want actually good text? read a fucking book
llms have years ahead before they begin outputting high literature prose, if they ever do
if you disagree with this you're an illiterate brownoid with zero cultural acumen
>but le heckin' 500 mesage roleplayerino
if you can stand 500x~200=100k words of ai text you're beyond saving
that's 200 pages of moby dick you could've read, but instead you chose to read generic slop?
my condolences
>but le heckin' sfw wholesome big chungus rp
that's just you having low testosterone
get checked by a physician asap
>but le wholesome comfort bot
meds
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>>107258510
>>107258510
>>107258510
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>>107258505
for 2.5 specifically?
it had really good recognition if you asked it to take a good look at an image so something like this, https://litter.catbox.moe/yuhheghkjqrdgn0r.webp can help it understand how I'd like it to use hair creatively.
might not be necessary if you can finagle the model well enough but I'm a little lazy.
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>>107258533
is prompting "i grab her by the ponytail and push her mouth into my peepee" too hard for redittors nowadays?
this generation is already retarded and ai is just going to make it worse isn't it
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>>107258533
yeah that's what I meant, I just type that stuff out, I'm esl but it still gets it most of the time
the only use I ever had for image reading was showing off what image was discovered on my phone or whatever as part of the roleplay, made for a fun reaction, but not much more than that
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>>107258551
It's the hair specifically I like anon, that was just the most recent example.
I had a whole rant typed up trying to explain it, but eh.
We'll just say the way models understand hair isn't good enough for me and leave it at that. Images like that get the feel across better than any attempt I've made in writing.
>>107258602
it's more of a gimmick for most people I'd imagine. it has it's uses though
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>>107258621
>blah blah
>ackshually i had a rant, but...
ok you're retarded and words are hard we get it
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>>107258668
I said from the start it was a skill/effort issue.
not sure why you kept replying tbqhdesu
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>>107255593
It's A. If you have a pile of something and you haul away x% of it, then by definition the same x% the next day MUST be a smaller amount.

Unless the pile can have more coal added to it, in which case it's D.
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>>107258499
KEKMAO
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>>107256863
desu ne
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boku no
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Boku no kokku ga dekasugi
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kimoi desu
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I will not tolerate desus and even bokus in my dying thread.
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desu
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FUCK
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boku
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debokusu



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