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So now that Switzerland has demonstrated is doesn't give a fuck about democracy or your privacy, what email and vpn provider will you migrate to?

Proton has been a hallmark provider for these services for many years, but not anymore.

https://tuta.com/blog/switzerland-surveillance-plan
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my own at my own house, you want my emails you gotta raid my house and server
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>>107261843
Does that Luke Smith script for setting up an email server work well, and securely?

https://github.com/LukeSmithxyz/emailwiz
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>>107261822
>email
gmail or outlook as they're the only providers who don't get black holed
>vpn
whoever throws out the DMCAs that I accrue when torrenting
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>>107261843
you act like this is hard to do... i used to host my own box, be ready to see constant attempts to break inside of it through your firewall logs

>>107262015
nice em-dashes
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>>107262015
good job Grok, now fuck off
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i2p
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>>107261822
>tuta
It's always funny when the Stasi starts talking about privacy.
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It's not Switzerland, it's these criminals, the Swiss confederates in Bern. And the Swiss confederates are only trying to do this because they are owned by a worldwide mafia that wants to surveil and control everyone and everything.
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>>107261822
>>107263115
didn't the swizz vote for this?
in a previous thread someone mentioned people voted for this initiative...
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>>107263188
Nope this one specifically was passed while circumnavigating any direct voting that the Swiss usually do. Nothing to see here move along people :^)
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>>107263233
the swizz and every country needs to move to a direct democracy system and completely get rid of all politicians.
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>>107263188
They probably said that because in 2016 the Swiss people voted for more surveillance but that isn't related to the government imposing an executive decree right now.
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>>107261822
The law hasn't passed yet and since not enough parties support it it's unlikely that it will
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>>107263329
>more democracy is the answer
lol. lmao even
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>>107264265
>>107263329
At least we should have the deselection. For instance 3% of the people could deselect anyone of the 3 branches of government.
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>>107264377
P.S. If someone says 3% is too few, it could be 25%. If a judge or politician is really disliked by 1/4 of the people then something must be wrong with him.
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>>107264409
>If a judge or politician is really disliked by 1/4 of the people then something must be wrong with him.

People don't care, they mostly just vote for their cucked out team no matter what. You'd have half the population constantly just ousting people one after the other.
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>>107264409
>If a judge or politician is really disliked by 1/4 of the people then something must be wrong with him.
This is the opposite of the problem.
A politician that's liked by everyone isn't doing their fucking job they're just sucking dick for attention points.
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>>107264440
And that is bad how? I am dead fucking serious, having a totally paralyzed state is still an improvement over most European governments. Didn't the Netherlands literally have that situation for a year or so?
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>>107263188
>people voted
jej, yeah sure, as if votes had ever change a thing.
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>>107263329
all western ideals of liberal democracy is garbage (the people are retarded)
a gathering of unelected engineers should make the important decisions
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>>107264409
>it could be 25%. If a judge or politician is really disliked by 1/4 of the people then something must be wrong with him.
oh it can be more even than that and not matter
can be 70%, if they're demoralized to the point that election turnout is below 55%, as long as you have 27% of cultlike fanatics
just my personal experience with the serb situation
>>107264550
>having a totally paralyzed state is still an improvement over most European governments.
damn straight.
>Didn't the Netherlands literally have that situation for a year or so?
didn't bulgaria have 2 years of caretaker governments because none of the criminas could actually agree on a coalition for that long, kek, fuckin balkan business
and guess what bulgaria hasn't ceased to exist last I checked
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>>107261822
This tuta article is amusing.
>What is more, the law is not introduced by or via the Parliament, but instead the Swiss government, the Federal Council and the Federal Department of Justice and Police (FDJP), want to massively expand internet surveillance by updating the VÜPF - without Parliament having a say.
Switzerland has fallen, it's ogre.
>This comes as a shock in a country proud of its direct democracy with regular people’s decisions on all kinds of laws.
Punchline
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>>107261822
Literally call up some shithole village in Africa, find some dude willing to put a computer somewhere with a locked door and internet access. Have them install a camera that watches the door.

Probably cost you like $500 bucks to setup and $100 a year.

Route all traffic through that computer and keep zero logs.

Ez

>Too expensive
If this is true then you dont actually need a secure vpn
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>>107264377
>>107264409
See>>107264377
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>>107264550
You want a strong, racially aware state that acts for the wellbeing of the people.
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>>107262028
>you act like this is hard to do...
it can be if you configure everything properly
>i used to host my own box, be ready to see constant attempts to break inside of it through your firewall logs
Of course. Every script kiddie jeet is constantly running their pentesting scripts against every host that's reachable from the public internet, 24/7. But they're unlikely to be successful if they have no obvious way in.
But if you're going to self-host something from home that's available to the whole world, you definitely want to make sure your security is on point. You should preferably set up a DMZ for it and keep it separate from the rest of your home network just in case someone does manage to get in.



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