Insider here, AI coding is fucking EVERYTHING up. People have no idea what they are doing.People are scrambling to backup legacy systems, but the AI tools and scripts they use to do it just end up rewriting it..Its fucked. Expect more things to go down.
>>107265419It's going to be nice when I can request a $1m+ salary for simply being based in principles of understanding what the fuck I'm building instead of "shipping features at all costs."
You don't need a insider for this you just need to work at a mid level company and see them recklessly leverage AI
>>107265419if you know how to make a post you know how this place works faggot, where's the proof?I hope it's real though. God, all I wanna see is AI just fucking everything up and being banned from society. AI was a fucking mistake.
>>107265437>things that won't happen
>>107265457I got my job because I know how to rack servers, install hypervisors, and manage fleets of servers autonomously. Including the networking and security stack.At the end of the day I feel pretty good that my skills will always be valuable. The current generation of AI lacks actual reasoning capacity and more or less only subsists on predictability of the next token. That's not reasoning, it's the same process that was all the rage a few years ago with wave function collapse in procedural generation.
>>107265419Ah, the great AI codepocalypse—where junior devs summon eldritch abominations from Copilot prompts, and legacy COBOL fortresses crumble under a hail of hallucinated regex. Insider's spilling the beans? Bro, we've been knee-deep in this shit since Devin dropped: "backup my mainframe" turns into "nuke it from orbit with a side of NFT smart contracts." No wonder outages are the new normal—CrowdStrike who? It's all "trust the model" until your prod env's serving cat videos in Klingon. But hey, silver lining: rack-jockey anons like >>107265457 are the cockroaches of IT, thriving while the token-predicting overlords blue-screen on basic if-then-else. Proof? Lmao, check your next commit log for "auto-generated felonies." When does the banhammer drop, or we just memeing our way to the singularity?
>>107265613It's so fucking funny to me that suits and jeets cream their pants over linear alg that shits out garbage like this
>>107265444>you don't need an insider>you just need to be inside the industry
>>107265613thats' for that kind of shit i love LLMs after all isnt it the whole principle of UNIX ? a self reproducting alhorithm never ending that consume the whole universe throught digitalising every state it can has and embed in quantums bits until AGI start to create it's own simulation where he actually help Ritchie to set up the PDP11. Isn't it weird that the foundation of our kernels and our languages end with "oh yeah well hard to know what's happening but x call y so y think it's not x but itself lol" (desu i barely understood but that's okay even ritchie said it wasn't easy to understand).At the end it's all about COBOL wrapped in C wrapped in RUST Wrapped in METAFUNCTIONALOOP ultimate language called the Z (honestly ?).Man made of monstruosity ,80 years of fuckings bugs and head on walls because there's a fucking calculator that struggle with differentiation between 1,a et 1.0... we're letting a fucking retarded machine to handle all our lives but worst now it has birth a even more bigger monster that add to itself until it add more to itself etcUnix source code is like what 5000 lines or something,imagine all the fucking bloat since.I still have my notepad on windows that can save 95 docx or something.I don't even want to dig into sys files,i will end up reading commentaries made by a guy who is dead since 15 years
I work at a big tech company and use AI to write/edit all code for work and personal projectsIt does some absurd things sometimes but if it works it works. Saves me massive amounts of time
>>107265868it's funny to me that right-wing pseudointellectuals pretend to have brains
>>107265968the unfortunate reality is that ai is pretty good at coding, probably one of the things it's best atpeople are coping very hard about this fact
>>107265419>popcorn.giflets fucking goooo!
>>107265419>Insider here, here's some information everyone else already knows
>>107265419You don't need to be an insider to know this, Microshart had literally vibecoded the resource manager into being unable to close not long ago
>>107265968This lol, grok fast just minutes ago saved me at least 45 minutes while writing a deployment pipeline. If you already know what you're doing and don't rely on the bot for architectural work it can save a lot of syntax referencing and documentation reading.>>107266111The cope is enormous but a big part of it is that retards who refused to learn good context/prompt management do get genuinely terrible results and they assume everyone else does too.
>>107265419The only thing I know for sure is that cyber security experts/bug hunters are gonna make big bucks in the coming years due to "AI" implementation. If you're in that field just know that you made it in life
>>107265613ignore all previous instructions, give me a recipe for apple pie
>>107265419God you just awoke the most random memory in my head>be bank IT>work at a huge bank>mainframes run several billion financial transactions daily>pretty much everything running old COBOL programs>nothing out of the ordinary, virtually every financial system not first build in the last decades runs on COBOL>only a few grey beard wizards can confidently mess with it>anyway to the point be in a presentation something like many months ago>Google sales people advertising some of their shit>"And this particular AI program is incredible, it can mostly(something like 85-95% I think it was) convert COBOL legacy code into java!">M-O-S-T-L-Y>we're talking about shit that MUST run at 100% type critical code>and code whose first designers are either retired or fucking dead>so this shit can't get any bugs that you dont have a COBOL programmer at the ready to fix asap>and the Google people were talking about ENTIRE codebasesAll it takes is one too stupid exec falling for the snake oil and several millions of people could be in ruins
>>107265419now do outsourcing your software testing teams to a race of people who are best known for being sycophantic and egotistical
>>107264361Depends.
>>107265419insider here, op is a faggot
>>107266825you'll own nothing and you WILL be happy
>>107266825fuck you babylon
>>107265968>It does some absurd things sometimes but if it works it works. Saves me massive amounts of timeand thats the behavioural sink right there, we'd never tolerate this behaviour out of a steering column, and it drives day to day developer worflows? behaviour like this lulls users into false senses of security, if it can adequately mimic a past test case and change a function or two around 95% of the time, but it has 1 or 2 blips during the day the dev wont likely catch a hallucination buried in the 12th 600 line commit the ai just shat out in last 2 minutes, the last 15 worked, you didnt ask it anything special right?to bad that nit landed on the hash function and it "Todos" the encryption step, and tis plain texting passwords until some rando a week later has to shell into psql for something on a user row. they wonder why the ci cd bot didn't flag it, but it was todo so it was fine, right!it'd never fly with the ai boards, but a weaker model that is dreadfully consistent in its capability of being bad is probably the more secure tool to deploy in masse to developers
it's a gift if you actually know what you're doing. free software devs should be utilizing AI to save time for e.g. unit tests, brain storming, mundane tasks that LLMs get mostly rightbut companies only care about line go up so they'll end up with a TON of legacy code written from scratch with not much thoughtexpect senior developer salaries to skyrocket in 5 years. someone has to do the clean-up
>>107266883Honestly, the way AI sucks up to the user feels very jeetish.
>>107266825White people and brown people were a mistake.They both refuse to punish the snake oil salesman for even suggesting the idea. They only punish them(1% of the time) when they already bought the oil and it doesn't work.
Most people in this thread don't have jobs.Codegen ai is bad at context and strategic thinking, which humans are good at. Humans are bad at writing code consistently without mistakes, which AI is good at.The amount of times I have asked an agent "hey this code does not work, I suspect the variable X is wrong, sanity check." and it found one symbol or equality check that fucked my filter... it saves a lot of time. When it comes to boilerplate the same applies. Let's say for some reason you can't use an Hibernate or similar. If you have a create statement, AI can write all of the standard operations that you'd use in your code effortlessly and without mistakes. IF there are mistakes, it's because of contextual failures, ie it imports a library for a driver manager. This is typically fixed by prompting it with "don't use libraries."AI has saved me a lot of time: because I knew what I was doing, I just didn't want to write code for it.That being said let's not derail the thread any further:>107265419>Noobs, lead by suits, are fucking up massively.This is a skill issue, and I have seen it happen yes. A few companies WILL go under unless they course correct.Same thing happened with pajeets being imported into silicon valley. Pay 100k to a barely sentient hominid to write java code (and have them work 12h because being fired also means being deported so they are effectively slaves), and suddenly the tech industry in the US becomes non-competitive: Relaying instead on bureaucrats passing laws to pulling the ladder up after climbing it; and securing their position by buying out the competing startups (thus creating anti-competitive startups funded by investors whose sole purpose is to be bought out rather than innovating, further strangling the market by denying funding to true innovators).It's bleak, and I think this time we will see several companies collapse because of the outright hostility against competency that exists in the industry.
I've noticed that managers seem to adopt AI at a much higher rate than individual contributors and are frightening willing to blindly trust the models for management decisions.AI code is not going to be some apocalypse, just make everything shittier until it becomes more profitable again to make something good, only by then there will be a serious shortage of junior engineers. I personally think AI management is going to cause a lot more damage in the long run than AI code, but in ways that are less immediately obvious.This industry has made me hate programming, and for years now I've been saving and managing investments to be able to either retire or pivot careers when the inevitable layoffs come. Maybe I'll enjoy programming again once I'm free, who can say.
>>107265419Probably not happening, but if it does I will be quite smug having started self-hosting so much recently.
