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I have an old PC with GTX 680 and i7 3770k that I need to get rid ofshould I bother listing the parts for like $30? does anyone even buy old hardware like that?
>>107265574Stuff like this always triggers me, why can't it be in line with the exaust at least
my nvidia driver senses are tinglingi predict an r590 driver tomorrow
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>>107265574i caved in, i lost faith in the super series not being cancelled
Upgraded from my ancient TN panel to IPS. Is this fucking normal? How cooked am I?
>>107265679Are you sure that's IPS
>>107265679Yeah that's what modern IPS is now. I told you, it's not 2014 any more, good IPS panels are only kept for professional displays. Everyone else get mid tier slop. OLED is the consumer high end, there is no IPS high end anymore.
>>107265679what monitor is that? my ancient (2014) BenQ IPS is no where near that bad for backlight uniformity.
>>107265686Yeah.
>>10726569310 years ago they cared about making good IPS panels. You guys should understand how trash this market is outside of OLED.
>>107265679perfectly normaldoes it look the same to you as in the picture? because it shouldn't
Is waiting for the gigabyte mo27q28g monitor going to be worth $500? Is paying that much for a monitor really sensible even if it's a cheaper alternative?
Nvidia is worse at Vulkan than AMD?? So emulators?
>>107265679fuck sake sorry to hear that anon. this makes me very paranoid to buy an IPS panel. I bought one years ago, it had bleed and an issue with displaying the color orange; it would have black dots scattering through that color. i took it back and bought a 1080p TN panel. just got a new PC and want to upgrade to 1440p, is OLED the only option to avoid this kind of stuff?
>>107265693AW2725DM. It's not as bad in person but definitely noticeable in dark scenes. So far I don't mind though because I have an OLED TV I play AAA games and movies on this is just for browsing and some fps games.
>>107265679Unironically that bleed is so bad you might actually be warrantable at reputable brands. You should always buy a monitor in person thoughbeit. I bring a laptop and use my car's inverted outlets to test the blacks if they refuse to let me test in store (they always do) then return it immediately if unacceptable. Still every IPS you're gonna get is gonna have some dumb chink child's little manufacturing error.
>>107265728>Nvidia is worse at Vulkan than AMD??at what? parallel proccessing? singel data multiple threads? warps? triangles? dense geometry? memory maganement? vector rendering? data compression? what scene are you even benching to claim shit like that, maybe the code is more optimized for AMD on a particular program or engine but to say shit like that is retarded
>>107265748>AlienWareWhy would you do that to yourself, you could have gotten any non-gaming 1440p and it would look miles better with same MS/HZ.Or dish out ~$100 more and get a ProArt display.
Did they really sell out of an $850 motherboard
>>107265718Hold on let me look into my crystal ball and check how satisfied you are with yourself in the "bought an upmarket monitor" timeline
1440p was a mistake, either 1080p or 4K
>>107265786>>107265770I'll use it a few days and see if it bothers me. It looks alot less bad in person and I usually sit in a bright room and play cartoonish games like Valorant, Overwatch or WoW. Probably return it for a miniled VA if I can't stand it. I think buying IPS screen is like playing the lottery because when I watch/read reviews on this model people say it almost has none.
>>107265807There are lots of tech/crypto whales with no better empty hole in their life to dump cash into.
>>107265679>>107265836google IPS bleed and go to reddit, half of the pictures look the same or worseit's just the way phone cameras capture it and it's meaningless to judge by a picturewhat I can tell you from my experience is that it shouldn't bother you even during dark scenes, if it bothers you - return it
>>107265706horey sheets. i mean, when i got the BenQ I paid good money for it (BL3201PH) because I needed a good 4k display and it was a "budget" 4k at $1000, i figured by now the IPS market would have trickled down the good stuff to the consumer market.>anon should return that IPS and get something else
MSI PSUs anyone have any problems with it?
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>>107265643Unlike CPUs and RAM, mobos don't tend to live forever, so a working mobo from an old socket could potentially hold a good chunk of its original value.
>>107265679>oled is a thing for years now>"naaaah better buy the superior, proven, good ol' IPS because fuck new thing am I right redditors?">gets thisYou can only blame yourself for being a retarded banana.
>>107265908Does this mean that we are not getting the super series?
>>107265900Never had issues with one, but then again, never had issues with any, I think PSUs are all the same garbage nowadays unless you go with a noname brand.
>>107265908I'm happy they get even more money to buy up even more RAM sticks for their AI slop datacenters!
>>107265946THEY'RE ALREADY ON IT
>ASUS TUF x870 disables half of your GPU PCIe lanes when you add a SSDThis is ridiculous. A $300 board at MSRP that fails at such a basic level. Most people would pair a X board with a GPU that would most likely get gimped by bandwidth in PCIe 4.0. Banking it all on PCIe 5.0 (which only works in ryzen 9000, ofc) is bullshit. And the worst part is that their B850 board doesnt have this limitation.
>>107265913>must be a retard then because i ordered a Dell U3225QE to replace the BenQ>then again i'm not a /gaymer/
>>107265609>MINI LEDImagine paying premium for LCD contrast with OLED levels of burn in
>>107265913OLED can't take a beating like LCD
>>107265913I already have OLED TV and a long hdmi cable for movies and some games. I spend 80% of my time shitposting so an oled monitor would be a waste but yeah if I win the lottery I'd get an OLED no doubt.
>>107265913Ah yes I love my burned in taskbar being visible wherever I go
>>107265964seething oledtroon
>>107265971hahaha good one dude! burn-in is sooo baaad, fuck OLED XDXD
>>107265966wat? are you smacking your monitor with your tallywhacker while browsing /y/ or something?>>107265971>>107265985IPS can also get burned in, maybe not as easily as OLED but the possibility exists
>>107265974i love watching oled copers seethe when they see us enjoying the alternatives
Is this still bad?
>>107266004Its awful, but to be expected with modern LCD.
>>107266004Na bro return that shit it looks broken lmao
>>107266004oh dearthat is quite bad yeah you can't blame that on the smartphone camera
>>107266004Even IPS isn't meant to spotlight and bleed that much that is a shitshow and bordering on broken I'd return it What model is that
>>107266004once again, stop trying to judge by the picture, because we all know this is not what you seeyour camera can make it look as bad or as tolerable as you wantuse your own eyes and perception
>>107266004to me (old BenQ haver) that is not acceptable image quality and it would make me pic related to look at.
>>107266004Just put sunglasses on bro change your perception
>>107266004get a refund based bf1 player. Even for ips that's bad enough you should consider it defective
>>107266004turn the brightness down retard
>>107266029This. Just increase the brightness and turn on the lights in your room bro.
>>107266004Jesus I really hope you just got fucked on the isp lottery, been looking at the same monitor since all other alternatives are a good $200 more where I live.
>>107266004damn bro, how come your mom lets you have 176 FPS?
OLED's biggest ad is watching other people use anything else lmao
my miniled va will be here soon, if it's bad I'll cry about it here
>>107266027I know it does not look that bad in real life just want to see how bad it is relatively. I don't usually sit in room this dark also.
>>107266077>miniled vaI hope you like ghosting or flickering.
>>107266077which one did you get brother
>>107265913Not that anon but I'm not spending $800+ on a monitor. That's insane.
>>107265676there's no way in hell that happens.
>>107265368>>107265676>>107266144delivery drivers are some of the dumbest, lowest iq people on the planet he deserved it even if i think what that anon did was wrong he prob fucked over some other people already
>5800x3d is still $300+ over a year post release and AM4 being phased out
>>107266082>just want to see how bad it is relativelythat's the thing, you can'tunless the pictures you are comparing are taken with the same camera and settings, it's meaninglesseven just a small change in camera exposure can make it look 5x worsethe average phone camera is calibrated to make pictures resemble a reference, which not only varies with every model, but also means it will greatly amplify a small IPS glow, but also reduce it if it's too brightthat's why there are so many pictures of IPS glow that look basically the same and why they all look so awful, despite being a lot different in real life
>>107266119buy once, cry once. the only reason i'm upgrading the BenQ is that I wanted to get something that can do KVM, plus it's been 10 years since i bought anything>most of my friends have been though 2 or more budget monitors in the same timeframe
>>107266119€700 for a monitor is not too much if it's quality that runs 10+ years without noteworthy degradation.I paid €1000 in 2016 for a 32"4k that is still great for work and slow games.
>>107266194>>107266207>10 yearsLMAOyou'll get burn-in after 3-5 years
>>107266004>I bought this exact same monitor and it's arriving fridayguess I should go ahead and get the return startedsomeone red pill me on OLED
>>107266207yes, this is the way>>107266229zero burn in or dead pixels or any problems at all on the old BenQ
>>107266164I love it. But 5700X3D is only 10% slower.
>>107266230It's just a blackpillThe idea that quality gaming IPS monitors exist died years ago and I like IPS you have to find professional ones though. VA is garbage no matter what anyone says I see even the so called good ones black smearing immediately and don't understand how anyone can possibly use them.
I was hoping I'd find some cheapish refurb 7950x3d for work and gaming but nothing has popped up. Realistically, what's the lowest price 7800x3d could reach these days?
I have been overthinking cases for days with my new parts just sitting here wanting to be used :( help
>>107266300>7950x3dWhy though? That CPU has way more driver and OS issues with windows than the 9950X3D does. 7800X3Ds have dropped as low as $320 but they're back up now better hope for that BF drop again
>>107266260always thought that a good VA panel is considered better for /gayming/ and /media consumption/ because better overall contrast?agree that a good IPS is better for textcheap displays of any kind are a crapshoot though.
>>107266313I can't I'm in the same spot and can't pick a case eitherthe 217 was perfect but they screwed both versions up for my autism
>>107265643Yes.My BiL makes well into the 6 figures and he’s gaming happily on an i7 3770 and gtx 1070. A 680 isn’t decrepit and any PSU that can power a 680 can power a 1070/1080, and that can play almost anything.
Since RAM prices are fucked and i need to upgrade I'm thinking about reusing my existing DDR4 16gb kit.Are the 5000 seres ryzen cpus still good? they seem like the last ones built for DDR4.
I only have another TN monitor for reference. Guess I've been ok with this for 10 years I'll be fine with this one too. Ghosting and black smearing sounds alot worse tbqh.
>>107266164>tfw you got one of the last $130 5700X3D’s
>>107265643when it comes to PC hardware there is always an autist ready to by some part of othersometimes I am that autist
>>107266350>My BiL makes well into the 6 figures and he’s gaming happily on an i7 3770 and gtx 1070why?is he retarded?
>>107266351they are ok, but the X3D are extremely overpriced and hard to get as they no longer produce them even on the 2nd hand market,so its a waste of money going for anything else besides a 5700x, (some recent games need the extra cores otherwise the 5600x would be the best)
>>107266340>but they screwed both versions up for my autismreally feels like every case has something about it that my tism just cant stand. these new ball snap toolless panels bother me, I just want muh screws on the back. the 207 and Flux rear both have the PSU mounted forward with unobstructed reverse blade fans under the GPU which seems really nice, but they both have those shitty nu-panels.
>>107266323>windows for workand yeah linux can handle my gaming needs currently. Refurb 7950x3ds went as low as $350
>>107266374My 1060 runs every *good* games perfectly at 1080p until 4 months ago.
>>107266351>I'm thinking about reusing my existing DDR4 16gb kitsingle rank DDR4 (2x8) isn't great in 2025, both in terms of capacity and performance>Are the 5000 seres ryzen cpus still good? they seem like the last ones built for DDR4no, 14th gen intel is 50% fasterif you already have an AM4 board it would be an okay upgrade
>>107266246you think I'm a scumbag because I refuse to be raped by jeff bezos and other AI billionare faggots? bro this is the world we live in. if I'm getting raped from every angle I'm gonna fight fire with fire with no remorse whatsoever and you can suck my dick about it.
>>107266382>ball snap toolless panelsindeed. i'm used to having a tool-free case but will be going to a case that has these and worry that my yearly cleaning will eventually break these and then i'll be hosed if i can't get replacement parts.
> i7 3770 and gtx 1070 ran games good? I tried oblivion on my 4790K/1080TI and it called me a corelet and then ran like complete shit
>>107266374He mostly plays EVE. He has a character from release.
>>107266374>retardedif so he's a well paid and happy retard which is the best kind of retard to be
>>107266351Wouldn't make a new AM4 build at this point. If you already have parts, go for it I guess.
>>107266419ngl i never clean my computer unless im inside it to do something else like adding a new drive or something. but those nu-panels just add to the overall chinky low quality feel of modern cases. my current case weighs 50lb, I could throw it down the stairs and it wouldnt be phased. ive seen these new cases arrive dented in like a coke can, cheap thin metal everywhere :(
>>107266409>>107266468I would have to buy a new mobo for it so I might as well just eat the shitty ram prices. Is 16gb of ram still fine in 2025 or do I need to get 32gb of this overpriced garbage?
>>107266469I wonder if I should get a heavy duty case too with some big ass fans but I just know when it comes to cleaning it'd be a PITA to move
>>107266493>Is 16gb of ram still fine in 2025Windows 11 uses 14gb of RAM idling with firefox open.
>>107266546>2025>still using indian "software"
Bought 990 Pro 4TB for €280, berate me anon.
>265K drops from £270 to £224holy fuck yes black friday week delivered my wait paid off
>>107266493>Is 16gb of ram still fine in 2025no, these are literally made from failed dies on DDR5DDR4: 2x16, 4x8 or 2x32DDR5: 2x16, 2x24. 2x32 or 2x48
Are there going to be sales for PC parts around black friday or should I pull the trigger now before ram prices push up costs on everything?
>>107266645>>107265671
I have 32GB of premium CL30 6000MT/s DDR5 Ram I've had sitting in a drawer for 7 months, how much can I offload this for?
>>107266645Possibly, but first and foremost you should take advantage of price guarantees and generous return policies.
>>107266469kek i'm daily driving an old HP Z840 workstation, as built is close to 70lb>cannot wait for all my parts to arrive so i can finally retire the old war horse>/waitfagged/ too long and got screwed by RAM prices
When you have an aio with a display with the USB slot and software.Do you have the USB cable to be permantly connected for the custom bg and settings?Also do you need the software to be running all the time for said stuff?
Why don't they just produce more RAM?
>>107266740300 buckaroos minimum
>>107266924why would they bother ramping up production (which costs money) when they have enough orders outstanding on contract to keep them rolling in money for the next couple of years?
>>107266924Market uncertainty. The last time they did that due to a demand surge, it suddenly went down and they were left holding the bag. Just increasing margins for now nets roughly the same profit with reduced risk.
>>107266740About tree fiddy.
>>107265679I upgraded to an OLED a few days ago and now it's completely ruined IPS screens for me. I'm using my old primary fast IPS (on the left) as my chat monitor, and despite thinking that blacks used to look black on it, when compared to the OLED right next to it, it's just not so anymore. Im not even sure if this screenshot will be visible on a non oled with how black it actually is.
>>107265679Don't use IPS monitors in a dark room; this is like using a QD-OLED monitor where sunlight is hitting the panel.IPS monitors need relatively bright ambient light + a bias lighting behind it to fool your eyes.
thoughts on the 4000d frame?
>>107266924They're producing more server ddr dram and hbm3e/4 at the expense of consumer dram
>>107267233It's a decent, all-rounder case.I prefer the Meshify 3, even with its shorter length (280mm top rad limit).
>>107267254it only comes with the 3x120mm front fans, think adding a rear exhaust would be a good idea? ill be using a 360mm rad up top
>>107267233I have it, and it's kinda bulky. Nothing wrong with it though.>>107267270Yeah you have space for one. I added another 120mm of the same model as the front fans but you can mount a 140mm.
>>107267175I keep telling everyone that OLEDs are a night-and-day over any LCD and the single best upgrade to home PCs since the introduction of SSDs.>>107267270>it only comes with the 3x120mm front fans, think adding a rear exhaust would be a good idea? ill be using a 360mm rad up topYes, it's helpful. Also, if you aren't necessarily wedded to the 4000D Frame's aesthetics there are cheaper cases like the Montech 903 MAX (also supports 360mm rads) that come with 3x Front Intakes + 1x Rear Exhaust preinstalled just as one example:https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2MwmP6/montech-air-903-max-atx-mid-tower-case-air-903-max-b
>>107267270I don't think the rear exhaust fan is mandatory for these new cases with good airflow, especially if you're using an AIO to cool the CPU.But it will cool the case by a few degrees (probably 2~3°C max).Don't spend too much. I'd probably buy a 140mm fan like the Arctic P14 Pro or the RS140 fan if you want to match the fan brand.P14 Pro runs a bit loud past 1000 RPM, btw. Best to keep it around 800~900 RPM if you're a fan noise schizo.
This general sorely needs the monitor schizo back.The display is the actual hardware you're staring at when you use your new/upgraded PC.Get the best possible display that's within your budget. Don't be stupid with your spending, though.
any idea if the new (((situation))) will affect sectors like mini pcs or gaybooks? from what i saw you could buy a gaybook instead of 2 dimms
>>107266924>fuck the consumeris their motto
>>107267296>I have it, and it's kinda bulky. Nothing wrong with it though.Is it pretty solid, like it doesnt feel cheap/flimsy?>>107267311Ive been looking around at different cases, the phantex XT pro ultra seems like a great cheaper buy for getting more fans. But I do kind of like the new trend of mesh panels for the basements on say the 4000d frame, 207, flux, etc>>107267319noted, ill probably grab some arctic fans if I need some, the cheapo non RGB ones have done well for me in the past.
ChinaGODs will save us again
>>107265609I am waiting for RGB-miniLED monitors, Intel Titan Lake, and Arc Druid.
>>107265574>>SSD (Keep firmware updated)>Budget: SN7100, NM790>High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)>Premium: SN8100>https://borecraft.com/I think in Premium category 9100 Pro should be added because they're functionally the same. The 9100 Pro is also the only one that offers top Gen 5 speed with cache and 8TB, the final boss.
>>107267437It feels like it could take a kick
It's never been more over, next gen is only going to be 6080/6090. A minimum computer build will be 4k.
>>107267183Is that IPS? What kind of bias light do you use?
>>107267621SN8100 8tb exists and is generationally better in performance and efficiency than the 9100 PROPhison E28 ssds are even better than the SN8100 but the 8tb models have yet to be released
>>107267639Which is a good thing.
>>107267648Ah my bad. Looks like it's nearly double the price though. I forgot to mention the T710 as well which is slightly better than the 9100 Pro and also super cheap right now. I picked one up. There are a lot of good options in the gen 5 space but only two with 8TB. When the price is right I would pick the cheapest of the three. $170.99 +5% cash back on Amazon for a 2TB T710 was certainly right.
>>107267648picrel>>107267674yeah the prices are insane and it's not getting any better anytime soongen5 drives have finally reached the point where are no longer housefires with the E28 just in time for the AI nand situation to start ruining the market
>>107267639Did you miss the Radeon in which it was revealed that they'll only do a 192 bit bus as the flagship for the discrete market, the future is APU's, and SOC consoles that run on cheap clud LPDDR ram. https://wccftech.com/nvidias-shift-to-consumer-grade-lpddr-for-ai-servers-could-spell-massive-trouble/
>>107267696Radeon Leak*
>>107267696>primarily designed for professional usewhat does that even mean? that they'll have 1 (one) halo tier consumer product and divert the rest to W10900 workstation cards?
>>107267639>Youtubers/redditors cry for years low end 8GB are too shit>"Okay we won't make them any more"shocked pikachu etc.
Can't wait for the schizowars between 10070 XT with 8 GB VRAM vs the 6070 TI with 88GB VRAM
>>107267708>india priced off the internetActually maybe all this inflation isn't so bad if you think about it.
>>107267712>he really thinks this is enough to keep india off the internet
>>107267715Don't take away my hopium bro.
>>107267639>>107267696I think it'd be great if they slowed down the releases. A more realistic pattern would be midrange is skipped for every other generation. Moneybags can replace their class 80s and 90s every single gen, selling it off to 2nd-rate moneybags, however the common working man might pick up a midrange card and hold onto it for multiple generation cycles. Then it will be up to game devs to make their games properly unless they really do want to have a market size of just class 80 and 90 owners.They might have one generation where they have no midrange, get burned for it, make a full range for the next gen afterwards, then try to do this again, and so the above pattern forms naturally.
fuck I cant decide if I want to switch to linux or mess with AI gen. I would rather get a 9070xt but 5070ti is better for work. I do art professionally and feel like I'm going to be forced to use AI but it still seems kind of shit and I dont know if its better to wait for more VRAM 2-3 years from now.
>>107267449Told you dummies! Told that one anon to screenshot my post but I'm sure he was a coward and didn't.>>107267639Nvidia's definitely talking about their 8gb cards. I don't follow AMD's so not sure what their equivalent is.
>>107267704Check the amd financial analyst day slides https://ir.amd.com/news-events/financial-analyst-dayThe Ryzen AI is being replaced with workstation gaming GPU''s dies and the radeon division is being shuffle to take that segment and take over workstation cards, they did not even invite David Wang (president of radeon gaming operation) only Jack Huynh
>>107267724That's why affordable console-like PCs like the gabebox and steam deck are so important. It fills up the entry and midrange market with affordable no nonsense gaming PCs that don't cost your life savings
>>107267724well Gaben knew what he was doing when he announced the gabecube with 8gb of vram, the same day as the Sony CFO said that the ps5 is only in the middle of its lifecycle, we'll probably be stuck with this amount of power until 2030
>>107267449They're eating micron's lunch being the cheapest, good enough supplier and it's good for the world
>>107266924DRAM market is a bitch. Many companies went out of business by expanding their operations too much in a memory boom.
>>107267729Probably talking about the RTX 5060 period. The 8gb sold like shit and the 16gb is a waste of vram going forward.
>MoBo shoppingChrist this is a pain. I have to pick through the fine print of every possible option to check if it will bifurcate my GPU on the GAYMER GAMING XxX #ForTheGamers board.And why the fuck do 200+ mother boards lack a simple POST code display? This shit used to be standard on boards half the price.
>>107267449does this mean RAM prices will stabilise next year or is china ram shit?
>>107267708Let's see uh>The margins are dogshit and reviewers shit on them. >Older high end cards on the used market also step on the toes of the bottom of the stack. Low end shit sits on shelves the longest or isn't sold at all.Easy solution shut this down and spend the resources elsewhere. If they really wanted to get competitive they could even use the savings to reduce the price of the higher end stuff, which they may have to because the consumer is weak.
>>107267642Not my monitor, but it's probably an ROG IPS.There are plenty of ways to add bias lights to your setup.https://youtu.be/2ei1STveLYc?t=319The cheapest way is to use LED light strips (+ a dimmer) on the back of your monitor.https://www.amazon.com/LED-String-Light-TV-Backlight/dp/B01LG99NW4?th=1
>>107267766Those were techtubers lies, the 5060 is the 2nd most popular blackwell card behind the 5070 based on the steam hardware survey, if anything the one that they are considering selling are the 16gb models because no longer vram prices are up but they eat their profits for workstation cards as you can run just quad 5060 ti 16gb farms instead of a blackwell pro to run certain models
>>107267787 if anything the one that they are considering no longer selling are the 16gb models *
>goytubers lied to you, listen to my goytubers instead>just buy low vram goy, it will not become an issue going forward
>>107267787The 8gb or the 16gb is the 2nd most popular model? And at what price was it selling? We're they in prebuilts? Fact is that nobody wanted to buy the 8gb.
>Vram is more expensive eating the margins in 16gb models >surely this mean that my favorite company will stop selling me the products with less vram now
>>107267806there is no 16gb 5060, only the 5060 ti has a 16gb one, the two most popular blackwell cards are unironically the 5070 with 12gb and the 5060 with 8gb of vram, techtubers just make shit uphttps://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
are the nvidia 5000 series drivers still shit?
>>107267819no
>>107267808Seriously, the models that are likely to be discontinued are the 5060 Ti 16GB and the 5070 Ti.They'll raise prices for all the remaining cards in production, including the 5050 & 5060.
ah yes the steam survey, the most accurate data after patchers predictions
>>107267777if i recall correctly, cxmt's ddr4 back in the day was essentially a carbon copy of micron rev e because they were built off stolen micron techno idea about china's ddr5 as those just came to the market like 2 months ago and in very limited quantities
>>107267825Gaben literally put money on his mouth and designed the steam machine based on it https://wccftech.com/steam-machine-offers-equal-or-better-performance-70-gaming-pcs/
>>107267729They both mean their low end 16GB cards actually. It's not worth putting that amount of vram on a fucking budget card. Even AMD won't keep up the charade any more. Nvidia already told channel partners 5060TI 16GB is stopping production and AMD told them prices will be going up
>>107267823>and the 5070 Tiyou aven a lil troll mate?
>>107267844They can probably rip off laptop customers more with those GPU & memory chips.
>>107267823they should make a 5070ti 12gb or 14gb just to troll techtubers
>>107267849A few games breach 14 with some settings now. It will definitely be content for techtubers as they rag on it.
who bought
>>107267844They regret releasing it in 16gb VRAM. It cannibalized 5080 sales.
>>107267769https://youtu.be/bEjH775UeNgwelcome to...god it was 2.5 years ago alreadyyeah mobo makers figured out that post codes are a "premium item" now And to save you time, every single AM5 motherboard bifurcates the top gen5 pcie slot. The only ones that don't are Asrock ones which instead decide to sacrifice your CPU in fire
>>107267864>pnythere used to be something about this brand on the op but the local hero removed it but (((reasons))) you could imagine already
>>107267887i never thought id ever live to see a pny fanboy
>>107267881>every single AM5 motherboard bifurcates the top gen5 pcie slotits primarily an assus problem now. the new gigabyte x870 x3d boards fixed their cursed bifurcation on the original x870 lineup
>>107267901i see reading is not your forte, no wonder you cant stop talking about gaytubers
>>107267881>every single AM5 motherboard bifurcates the top gen5 pcie slotNo they dont
>>107267901are they still the OEM for Nvidia branded cards and the big boys like Dell and HP for Quadro cards? not a brand i think of when looking for performance stuff.
>>107267639>ram shortage continues to get worse each year RTX 6090 and PS6 release with 8gb of VRAM>gabencube proves 8gb of vram is enough well into 2030s
What in the fuck am I supposed to do with my old 3700X? I held on for it too long after I upgraded because I just kind of forgot about it. Somebody's selling one brand new in the box for $29 on ebay so it's really not even worth posting mine. Is it just trash now?
>>107267966>gabencube proves 8gb of vram is enough well into 2030st. only plays vampire survivors and gacha games
>>107267972could always frame it
>>107267972Feed it to the ducks they will go quackers for it.
What's the lowdown on flashing a higher performance BIOS on a 5070 Ti? I have the ASUS TUF model if that matters.
Tech illiterate here.My SSD is failing. It's a Toshiba TR200 240gb from 2017.I wanted to buy a new one so I can keep playing shitty videogames on my puter, but they seem all out of production.Also>I'm poor>I don't know what I'm supposed to do once I get the new SSD (install OS or duplicate the old one?)>I don't know how to pick a new one>all my other parts are from 2017 as well (I don't know if that matters)>I've assembled and built two puters before this one, but I don't remember how I did itCan a sweet anon spoonfed a retard?
>>107267925Yes they primarily make quadros and server GPUs Theyve somewhat recently hired kingpin to spice up their consumer cards so we might see gaming focused stuff next gen
>>107268073you should buy an NVME drive, it's an ssd you put directly on to your motherboard. 1tb will run you 50 dollars for one without a dram controller (thing that makes it a little better) and 80-100 for one with the controller. If you drive is already failing it's a good idea to do a fresh install, but drive cloning exists if you don't feel like it. if you care about dram on your NVME use the borecraft website in the op, if you don't just buy the cheapest one from Newegg/Amazon that's from an established company with a lot of reviews. one last thing is if you're a windows 10 user, if you clone your drive onto your nvme you need to use massgrave to extend your security updates to 2027. if you're doing a fresh install you should download "windows 10 ioT LTSC" from massgrave/wherever for security updates until 2032. check /fwt/ for more if needed, and always check NVME reviews on other websites too, good luck
>>107268119>SSD from 2017 there is a good chance this guy's mobo's PCI ports are gen 1 & 2 and NVME isn't even a thing they can do
>>107268119Sounds cool, I'll do that.>>107268130My mobo can support NVME, so it's fine.
>>107266004you can get good 1440p oled for 500, return and get that instead
>>107268073>Toshiba TR200 240gbis an SATA 6Gbit/s ssd, you can buy most any 2.5" SSD and use that but your system may limit the upper size boundary you can use. a 512gb or 1tb SSD should do the job.>>107268142if you have NVME check the slot - they have different specs so make sure the drive you buy fits the socket, this explains it well: https://www.atpinc.com/blog/what-is-m.2-M-B-BM-key-socket-3you can find (free) software to duplicate the drive but sometimes a clean install is the better way.
Gigabyte control center is still recommending amd stuff after switching the graphics card from amd to nvidia.Any way of solving this if this is a problem I should be concerned about?
>>107265574the OP is so retarded of all the meme cases to add he picks this garbage> Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50all shit cases lol
>>107268047Not worth it imo, some vBIOS are meant for RTX 50 cards with Hynix GDDR7 chips and others for Samsung'sYou can end up bricking one of the two available vBIOS unless you comb through the file.https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/5070-ti-power-limit-questions.333687/page-6>>107268073Samsung 870 EVO is the only good SATA SSD left these days.There are cheaper ones like Crucial BX500 if you just want something for storing games.Crucial MX500 was the better one but out of production now, and these aren't exactly cheap.
>>107267864I did
>>107268266kek>PNY 4070 Super Verto OC but in my defense it was 60 dolla less than anything else and i'm a cheap bastard>does not OC worth a shit
>>107268284you lost the silicon lottery
>>107268284>it was 60 dolla less than anything else and i'm a cheap bastardyeah this was $50 less than MSRP lolhonestly feel better about a PNY card than zotac. the other cards at MSRP price all preformed worse than it. feel like itll be totally fine
>>107267639>devs will now be forced to optimize the fuck out of games, and/or downgrade graphics to return to the previous eras of greatness because the majority of players will eventually be running on [relative] shitboxes>4k will continue to be a meme, rich fag/streamer flex onlyPossible good end out of millions of timelines?
>>107268301all other brands purposely gimp their msrp cards to sell the ultra premium +$200-800 modelsit seems that pny and maybe zotac are the only ones that are more ethical with their offerings
>>107268300i didn't expect much from it in that regard anyway as it's only a two fan cooler. it's at least much better than the Quadro M4000 it replaced and i needed a "low" power card at the time>would not buy again
>>107265679it always looks exaggerated in pictures/cameraI'd be worries if yo see uniformity problems and excessive bleed like that while just looking at it.
>>107268300>>107268284>>107268338anon any card can OC poorly, that is the nature of the silicon lottery. it being a PNY had nothing to do with it
>>107268301>zotacthe only computer that killed itself on my watch was a zotac SFF i bought for HTPC use, cannot recall the model but one day while playing an MKV in PotPlayer it just went black screen and never came back up
>>107265908>>107265953price gouging at its finestanyone who says its not is a massive fucking retard and should kill themselves.
>>107268284>>107268338Undervolting and OC will get you most of the chip's potential at a reasonable power draw
>>107268351errr... thanks for the info?
ayo it bootsguess i fucked up my hsf install somehow though because the all-core boost clocks and cinebench multi score is junk but that's a problem for tomorrow. just glad i didn't stuff it into the case before testing that, woulda had to rip it all back out
>>107267783Thanks bro.
Zotac is Inno3D, Manli, and Sapphire's sister company btw.They are all owned by a OEM/ODM called PC Partner Group Limited (HK).
Is it worth it to overclock my CPU if I got a 9700x? Heard that it's quite good to overlock, only problem is I have no idea at all how to do it
>>107268367ya i played around with it when i first got it with afterburner and only got a couple FPS gain in benchmarks, though the undervolt did quiet it down a bitwish i had made note of the settings since i clean installed since then and would have to do it all again but - meh.
>>107268389You find the PBO menu in bios and set the PPT, TDC, EDC to values that you prefer.
>>107268389there are literal shedloads of information on how 2 OC out there on teh interwebz>keep notes as you go, its helpful>above all have fun
I'm looking to get a 4tb nvme drive. What's the big practical difference between gen 4 and gen 5? It seems like the gen 5 has roughly twice the write and read speed as gen 4, but what applications will that be useful for? Do even local AI models need ~14000mbps read and write speed? Should I get a heatsink for either of them too?Also I'm looking for an internal HDD of larger capacity, to store media files mostly. Does 7200rpm make a big difference vs 5400rpm? If there's not a crippling speed difference then does the 5400 rpm usually have longer longevity?
>>107268369>trying to inform the uninformed>oh lets try to be a sassy little faggotwow you're really smart and cool
>>107268431>can assure you i am not uninformed on the matter>got ya ta take the bait tho, didn't i?
HDR400 actually blinds my eyes why do people say it's not bright enough?
>>107268416>but what applications will that be useful for?Enterprise customers will know the answer to their own questionConsumer N/A
>>107268471It's for my own personal PC and I'm not building a server.
>>107268470maybe you have high astigmatism
>>107268468?you're really confused.
>I was just pretending to be le retarde xD
>>107268485that is my modus operandi and i am quite happy with it
need to order my PSU. got a 5070ti, so stuck with this nuconnector bullshit. atx 3.0 vs atx 3.1, does it matter? I really dont want my gpu to catch on fire
lol
>>107267639>no one have access to vrams anymore>steam machine has 8gb>devtrannies will be forced to optimize>even slops like bf6 and codbo7 caved and reduced their requirements, no one cares anywayThis is a good thing.
>>107268502>hand rubbing intensifies
>>107268501the GPU-on-fire issue is at the GPU side for the most part, is that not correct?post the PSUs you are considering and anons will happily shit on them so you can buy the one you've already picked as your favorite.
>>107268512The connector can melt on the PSU side too if there is high resistance or unbalanced current distribution
>>107268502>>107268508>+1 to image limit>no contribution
>>107268519reports of this seem to be pretty rare compared to reports of the GPU side filling your air with lovely microplastic smoke though
>>107268524the image limit has never been reached in a /pcbg/ thread so far
>>107268512>post the PSUs you are considering and anons will happily shit on them so you can buy the one you've already picked as your favorite.lol i love this placehttps://pcpartpicker.com/product/4XsV3C/be-quiet-pure-power-12-m-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn505https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RdHqqs/super-flower-leadex-vii-xg-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-850f14xgopen to suggestions for any other PSUs, i just found these were high rated on the tier list and not a chinky no name brand
>>107268534pic related>>107268545>not a chinky no namethats the spiriti'd do a be quiet over a super flower but thats just me
>tried the nvidia super resolution bullshit to watch porn on>gpu power usage goes up to 90W from watching a youtube video >it's the exact range my rm750e psu start clicking >my psu prevents me from using a gimmick feature I paid so much money forI hate pc building so fucking much
I just spend a repulsive amount of money on assembling a PC and now I feel physically ill. I am going to return it all and drown myself.
Posted on previous thread, now ive more questions.>Basically, im doing a fresh build. >Installed everything, boot up mobo shows yellow indicator.>Re seated everything, tried 1 stick ram yellow light still on.Now i plug in boot drive, the light goes away. Is this normal? Did i just need to install bios?
>>107268598Just play some game and be happy anon we don't live healthy for long.
>>107268596wat? which GPU/CPU/mobo are you using?
Hesitated on building a PC a few months ago and now just as I finally decide to go through with it this ram thing happens
>>107268617There are 4 diagnostic LEDs. CPU, VGA, RAM, BOOT.If there is no boot drive inserted the boot light will turn on.
>>107268562this is a blueboard anon cmon>i'd do a be quiet over a super flower but thats just mewhys that?
>>107268632I am retarded
>>107268630same for me anon
i bought a 5090 even though i don't need it because i fear for the future
>>107268630>>107268642me too. but I got a GPU under MSRP. I know a guy who paid like $800+ for a 9070xt not long ago. the MSRP GPU offsets the gape caused by the RAM prices, thats my cope and im sticking to it
>>107268632Yes but on my board the boot light is white. What was showing before i plugged in the boot drive was yellow . Im so confused. As of this moment im waiting for windows to finish installing and the yellow dram light hasnt came back on again
>>1072686295060ti 9600X b650 tuf.Apparently the psu starts clicking if my gpu and cpu power usage is around 100-120W combined. It almost never happens but this nvidia upscale feature hits this exact sweet spot.
>>107268638historically superflower was superchinkshit but that was a long time ago>how long is the warranty on those?
>>107268648>the gapei have a pic for that but as i've been minded this is a blue board
>>107268651It's probably memory training I shat myself too when my build took more than 2 minutes to boot.
>>107268648$889 CAD is the going rate for the 9070xt here in Trudeauville by the look of it, that's already on sale and I don't even want to try waiting for Black Friday atp
>>107268596I've never seen vsr use more than 35ish watts on a 5070
>>107268684The only condition for it to happen is if I put it on the highest upscaling quality, play fullscreen on YouTube at 1440p60fps while my resolution is 1440p aswell. Which is regarded why would it upscale 1440p to 1440p?
>>107268654>b650damn that doesn't seem right you're under 300w for cpu/gpu at full tilt, maybe the PSU is dodgy. Can you warranty it?
>>107268656I thought superflower was one of the big name OEMs in PSUs to be trusted, like seasonic.I actually cant find any warranty info for the superflower PSU. not on the amazon listing, or their website. apparently they dont deal with the US sales and such directly. the be quiet has a 10 year warranty. I think that might be the one to go for here
>>107268671>$889 CADis this really the state of canuk PC building? holy fuck i am sorry anon..that is over $1,200 USDis there anyway for you to order a GPU from the US? like even a US ebay listing or some shit ?
>>107268720other vendors have long warranties as well.them being an OEM does not mean as much as you may think, e.g. the PSU designs are not likely shared, internal components can be very different quality, etc..
>>107268719I don't think it's at full tilt from watching a youtube vid. Its a common problem for this psu model and I already got a replacement. They offered me a higher tier psu for 50$ more but I refused. I can request it again whenever I want however.
>>107267710Amd needs to change it's naming scheme again. >Rx 10070xt Lmaooo
>>107268730879, but you get the idea>that is over $1,200 USDNo it isn't, it's like 640, the Canadian dollar is Monopoly money compared to USD.>is there anyway for you to order a GPU from the US? like even a US ebay listing or some shit ?No fucking clue, I'm a total beginner when it comes to building in general and I don't know my way around anything.
>>107268748when i said at full tilt i was referring to CPU/GPU working at theoretical maximums.why not just spend the $50 and upgrade? what-if you get some /gayme/ that triggers this in the future?
Are montech cases shit? I feel like they should be given how fucking cheap they are but I've never seen anything bad about them online
I bought a 9800X3D from MSI and a Belgian flax linen duvet cover from Pottery Barn.
>>107268759Yeah I'll probably do it when I have the time been busy lately. Corsair costumer support is top tier however they told me to contact them again during warranty period if I change my mind.
>>107268763>montechcheap does not mean bad but none of their cases appeal to me>glowie with glass, nothxnotforme
>>107268754Oh im very retarded and did the CAD to USD conversion backwards. yeah $640 is not too bad for a 9070xt honestly.
>>107268782I honestly don't care that much about the aesthetics of something that's realistically going to sit to the side on my desk or maybe even on my floor, I was just looking for ways to cut back on the costs of certain shit without sacrificing too much
>>107266207>10+ years without noteworthy degradation.>OLEDLmao. I know you keep name topping the brand to brag but it's not special lol the lifespan for any OLED is 5 years max. Meanwhile I have old LCDs kicking around from 15+ years ago.
Any thoughts or advice on these? I'm building in a full tower so there's tons of space.It's a solid black side panel so looks don't matter.
>>107268806I bought the PNY triple fan OC. reviews show it preforms better than the MSI ventus. gigabyte has issues with their thermal compound. no idea who palit or gainward are besides recently seeing people claim their cards are shite. havent heard people saying much good about asus's PRIME cards. for me the PNY was $50 cheaper than everything else, and seemed like a reliable no nonsense utilitarian kind of card so I got that.
>>107268804as a confirmed cheap bastard i agree with the low-cost sentiment but would (myself) still look for a cheap case that has no glass and no glowie at all.
>>107268707>Which is regarded why would it upscale 1440p to 1440p?Is there a setting for that? Mine turns off even for 1440p to 4k, it's just 1080p and below.
>>107268821>gigabyte has issues with their thermal compound.why every other gen has these. it's such a lottery to buy a GPU these days, just slap PTM everywhere you cursed penny pinchers!
My OLED experience this year.3325 hours of active time, mixed use. no burn in issues. My only issue is gamma curve is fucked on mine, I have to -10% brightness in everywhing or it looks washed out.
>>107268221The X50 is one of the best airflow cases ever made
>>107268940is it comfy to build in though?why no torrent in there? it's very nice to build in
>>107267639but anon, all AMD cards are mid to low end
>>107265679ypur cooked bro frfr no cap ong
>>107268957
Any reason I shouldn't get SN850X over SN7100?Same price here, for 1tb, don't ask me how it works. Also if my board has m2 heat dispenses, do I remove a sticker on top of NVMe or not? or just don't use motherboard ones?MSI B650-m Mortar board.
>>107268978The sticker is always metallic and meant to spread heat, never remove them.
>>107268221whats wrong with the 4000D frame?
>>107268986but I will put a heat spreader on top of it, see pic, should I?
>>107269006NEVERREMOVE THESTICKER
>>107268978if by "sticker" you mean the manufacturers label, then do not remove it, it won't hurt anything being there and removal voids warranty
I was thinking of getting a 9070 XT. I have been considering between asrock steel legend dark and powercolor reaper, both are at the same price, cheapest I could find. I'm guessing there really is not much of a difference between these two?Looks like the asrock has a thicker heatsink, would that make it better in anyway?
>>107269006Don't let them tell you what to do, anon. If you wanna peel it off, then peel that shit right off. Feels good to peel stickers, doesn't it?
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Wd236QAny other Mobo/PSU people would pick?Got the RAM now before it gets even more expensive a few days ago.
>>107269052Continued:Seems like the reaper has a PSU requirement of 750w while asrock has 800w. I have a 750w so I might be going for the reaper but I still somehow doubt it matters all that much.
>>107268198Update. So those things were related to my amd cpu.Among other things how do I check if I installed my graphics card properly?I’m a bit of a retard.
>>107269075Run some benchmarks maybe, play your fave game and look at the stats?
almost pulled the trigger on an m2 ssd until i saw the "frequently returned item" label on its amazon page
>>107269101which one?
how shit is windows 11, should I just pirate W10 on my new machine?
>>107268978but no advice of SN7100 vs 850x, you guys are useless, but everyone is a sticker expertI want to know which one is more reliable. I need the thing to work at least 5 years, which is hotter?
>>107269075>Among other things how do I check if I installed my graphics card properly?Do the DDU in safe mode before installing a new card like a normal person.
>>107269101which one? also retard break them apparently, it's a really small device. I have a chinese m2 Netac from 5 years back I got for $35, it started "not responding" only recently. I don't know the reason though, when it's in sue it's fine but when I don't use anything from it half a day it "falls off"
>>107269125acer FA100 PCIe 3.0 NVMe SSD 512GBwas looking for a cheap sdd by a decent brand
>>107265679it's not IPS fault, just shitty backlights
>>107269127Im thinking about just going with win10 ESU myself.
>>107269132https://ssd.borecraft.com/SSD_Buying_Guide.png
>>107269127Win 10 IoT LTSC has updates until 2032
Am I right in thinking I can top mount a 420 Arctic LF3 in the meshify 3 XL?https://www.fractal-design.com/app/uploads/2025/05/Meshify-3-XL-Manual-V1.1.pdfp.50 says it can only take a 420x140x30 in the top, but it looks like that's to keep clear of side mounted fans. p.51 has a thicker rad in the top slot, so I'm assuming it's not a motherboard clearance issue.Planning to just leave the stock 3 front fans in place and top mount the 420 AIO.
does it matter that my gen4 nvme drive is on m2_4 and connected to the chipset instead of directly to the CPU?
I don't see a mice/mouse or peripheral thread so I figure I should ask hereI have used the Razer Deathadder platform since they first came out when I was a kid so it's my preferred mouse styleI want to move away from Razer because of their ridiculous third party software and because I read that their quality has further dropped with the V3 and V4 DeathaddersDo any of you know of any mice with similar ergonomics and side buttons? I use the back side button for sprint and the ergonomics on this mouse are unmatched for my handsNothing I've felt in stores has felt as good as the Deathadder
Im starting to think amd is insaneI got 7800x3d and to watch a youtube video it uses very little cpu powerbut one core will TURBO BOOST TO THE MAX UNTIL IT REACHES 89C because MAX POWERthis means 7 cores are like 40c but 1 is >70c and the fan has to immediately ramp fan speed up to cool that 1 fucking corethen it immediately cools down a lot, but then it turbo boosts AGAIN and fan has to follow itso out of any cpu in existance got the one that will produce the absolute max fan ramp up and down imaginable by defaultthanks amd.
>>107269257>>107269257>>107269257
do you need an aio for the 9800x3d? those thermalright $50 coolers like thermal assassin 140 should be enough, right?
>>107269268I know you have the whole amd schizo thing going on but this thread will not archive for like 10h and you can just keep using itits so pointless
alright ladsI have a R7 5700x3d/RX 5700XT build and am considering two upgrade options: Cheap blower 2080 super for $160 or a 6700XT for $150-180.Which makes more sense to get to have RT/mesh shader support?
>>107269260have you tried a logitech g403?
>>107269274I'd just spend extra on an AiO, it'll help your GPU out too
>>107269312I think I tried that one in stores once and the side buttons felt bad to meI also have heard that Logitech has had similar QC issues to Razer over time, but I'll keep it in mind
>>107269313I dont like water stuff near the pc, I don't upgrade often
>>107269283neither upgrade option makes sense. Aim to double your performance. 5700XT can raytrace, should do you fine for another year.
>>107269267Just use an aio bruv
>>107269382I just disabled pbofuck that noise
what the fuck, i just ordered some black friday deal memory and now amazon it telling me its shipping in january?