When will RAM prices go down? This is absolutely fucking ridiculous.
>>107268685Once all the companies are stacked. I'd say end of 2026 early 2027
Glad I stayed on ddr4 and also glad I got another 32 gb ddr4 kit for $98 during the summer to have 64 gb. I wish I had gotten 128, but don’t exactly need it. Ram prices will eventually come down as ai becomes more efficient and requires less resources for the same task. The ai bubble could also burst causing these companies to slow down on their ai labs.
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>>107268685Found this exact RAM package for 230 USD in my area. Should I nab 4 sticks?
>>107268799You can't run 4 sticks with ddr5. What you can do is sell the extra 2 for profit.
>>107268842>can't run 4 sticks with ddr5News to me. How fucking come? Do I have to get 2x64GB sticks to have 128GB DDR5RAM?>sell the extra 2 for profitThe guy apparently is selling only two, but I asked him if he has more. Wondering if these are some chinkese knock-off, or maybe he has no idea what he has.
>>107268886Just to be clear: I want the extra RAM to run local AI slop models. Will 4 sticks of DDR5 RAM really be a problem?
>>107268899depends on the strength of your imc. you may have to drop to ddr4 speed
>>107268906Hard to find any info online. Do you think my CPU could handle it?
>>107268926zen 4 and 5 have the same io diehttps://duckduckgo.com/?q=zen+4+dimm+128gbHere is some info.
>>107268685Haha
>>107268685few years minimum
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>>107268985>3600It's over.
>>107268685Prices will not go down for decades, if ever. AI will grow to encompass at least 120% of the economy by next year and all production capacity for silicon will be bought out 10+ years in advance in whole.
>>107268685>prices go downThis is the cheapest it will ever be.
>>107268685>the ram I bought 2 months ago for $230 is now $775
This is why RAM is expensive.
>>107268685>When will RAM prices go down?2028, maybe
Shoulda gotten some before the trump tariff tantrums, imagine upgrading now after watching the tariffs all year, a truly fecaloid lack of foresight and logic Keep blaming ai lol
>>107269866if it were just about tariffs, the rest of the world wouldn't be impacted too, faggot
>>107268685in 2 weeks when the AI bubble bursts for real this time
>>107269933Most governments follow muttland because they're occupied by mutts, suffer for your ignorance circumcised fecaloid pubehead
Reminds me of 2017 when 16GB DDR4 cost 200€
>>107270116>Most governments follow muttland because they're occupied by muttsname one
>>107270400Ugly circumcised fecaloid downy
>>107270424answer my question
>128 GB RAM in my PC>64 GB RAM in my gf's (female) PC>16 GB RAM in my HTPC>32 GB RAM (DDR3) in my drawerthat's it, lads, I think I made it. where should I retire now?
>>107270503>femaleStop deluding yourself.
>>107268685When companies realize AI isn't going to fix the economy, will actually make it worse and nobody is going to spend money when they don't have a job or a reason to live.
>>107268744Why? You realize there was a period before this price hike when DDR4 and 5 were literally the same price?
>>107268685When there's massive oversupply and little demand. ITT: seething /v/tards mad that supply/demand curve isn't playing in their favor
I'm haven't upgraded my PC in many years so I took a peek at the ram, why does it all look like gay gamer shit?
>>107270741there's gay ram and there's normal ram, like with everything these days. apparently ledfags are willing to pay extra.
>>107268685When you stop being a faggot.
>>107270631It is all locked in a prisoner's dilemma mixed with sunken cost fallacy. The bait was the oversold promise of reducing labor costs by automating menial while collar labor. An economic correction is inevitable. It just happens to have a happy confluence with other avenues that sorely need corrections. The USA hegemony falling. The fall of Taiwan will be the USA's "Suez Crisis" moment.
>>107268685Never. This is the new normal.>>107270638Cause he is on a DDR4 system, duh.
>>107268685it won't go down but the increase will slow down. Unless you're willing to buy ram sticks used.
>>107268685>When will RAM prices go down?If what happened to GPU's and the cost of living crises in terms of food taught me anything. Is that once people have been conditioned in having to pay through the nose, companies never want to go back. My might drop some, but I doubt they will ever go back to how they were. Unless there is a complete industry crash in demand, but even them they will probably just reduce production to keep prices high.
>they fell for the ram meme8 gibibytes is all you need, 16 if you need to flex to your normie friends
>>1072709688 gb is all you need if you never used your computer for anything productive
>>107268886>>107268906What anon means is that it's hard to run ddr5 at any high speed when using 4 sticks. Using 4 sticks at JEDEC speeds is no problem, but then it's fucking slow. You have to weigh your needs for speed vs amount.
>>107271005ye because having 548 chrome tabs open is (((productive))). Rope, tranny.
>>107271078I accept your concession
>>107271090as I do yours.
>>107271146>no ugrim
>>107268685Meanwhile I got my 128gb ddr4 for just $220.
>>107268745terminusbut why you'd want to use it as the sans serif font on your browser is beyond me, it look so ugly
>>107271216got my ddr4 cl22 64gb for 100$fair price
Dont like it? Build your own Memory manufacturing company.
Just dont be poorpic related
>>107271385>laughs in 3090
>>107268685probably in a few months when retards stop mass panic buying and retailers have a chance to restockthey won't go down back to the old levels, but they will go down
>>107268685Soon as you stop posting about it
Reminder, all through this decade and maybe further more, AI companies will want more and more RAM/compute. This trend will continue for the next decade atleast
>>107268685Never. Even when the AI bubble pops and everything goes down in flames, prices will stay absurdly high because fuck you.
>>107269074When you consider the cost of electricity in Europe and the depreciation of PC components this is all just a massive waste of money. For accounting this is understandable due to data regulations but for literally anything else API costs on Openrouter are simply cheaper. Even then, Gemini through GCP has a cheap enterprise option and I'm not sure why wouldn't just do that.You are looking at least 1kW power draw on those gpus and maybe ~300W for everything else, you could a 500B model for $50,000 startup cost + ~$20,000 depreciation of value + $0.50/hr or just run any model you want through an API and unless you are using the LLM constantly it will be cheaper. You don't need ~1TB system RAM, I'm not sure why he bought all that, you would need say ~22-32GB per slot for kv cache if you're serving multiple users with GLM-4.6 but 8 concurrent LLM sessions don't even fill a quarter of that.The smallest model I would consider "usable" that fits on this machine is GLM-4.6 and that doesn't have vision of any kind, meaning you will doing document OCR etc. separately. Now i'm not familiar with professional accounting but I can tell you that accurate document OCR isn't easy, having a vision model that can take information in its "purest form" with no pre-processing will always get you the best results. All open weight models right now are either unusable in practice or not multimodal (i.e. don't have vision).Point is nobody aside from hobbyists is building these massive LLM home servers
>>107274405What are you smoking, dots.ocr is sota for OCR
>>107268685You still don't get it, do you? This will be considered cheap as fuck in 2027. Prices will ALWAYS go up.
Something fishy is going. Price fixing from big three. There was never a hike so fast and dramatic.
>>107268685once the designated sec of the country does their thing. so never.ram manufacturers are salivating at this situation. sell 50%+ for normal price to one entity, artificially creates scarceness, price goes to the moon for everyone else,make 200-300% extra selling your ram stock.
>>107268926yes there are loads of people running 128gb on 4 sticks
>>107268744We're gonna tank the global economy to try to make AI not retarded.
>>107272812Negative, the bubble is already bursting. The sheer momentum is only thing that is stopping it from free-falling into a necessary correction.
>>107273652No, they are still subjected to supply and demand. RAM prices always have gone back and forth with the supply and demand curve. People are just mad that the curve isn't playing in their favor.
>>107275870If it is from hyperinflation, then memory prices are the least of your concerns then.
>>107276407I'd say theres at least 2 years of momentum left, and by then they might have discovered a silver bullet application and the bubble will stabilise into the new economy.
>>107270726We live in a world of abundance.Every supply issue is artificial.Wake up.
>>1072768572 years is very optimistic. It is likely the black swan event that triggered the burst already had happened. 2026 is going to be a brutal year.
>>107274405>muh API>ask completely normal question>thanks to muttmericans completely normal words trip the anti coom filter
>>107276899No, resources are finite kiddo as well as production capacity. The spike is entirely caused by AI/ML types bidding a significant portion of near-future DRAM production. The etailers got wind of and raise prices on their existing inventory. This is triggering a FOMO situation of panic buying that spirals the increases further. This is the same shit that occurred to GPUs during crypto-currency mining.
people talking about the bubble bursting or something are delusional. the bubble is about the stock market but the reality is that crucial, hynix, samsung, ... already have enough orders filled for the next three or four years. it's a production capacity problem. you will never see the ancient prices again.
>>107268685>64gb ramuse case?
>>107278071kde desktop
nvidia is super overrated. its just a pci-express card.
>>107278102lel, no. their server frames are top notch with unparalleled memory bandwidth
Price going up is good for the economy and GDP chud
>>107278126server hopper is pci-e 5.0they're pci-express cardspeople are going crazy over tsmc transistors on gay third party board.
>>107268899The bottleneck for AI slop is the VRAM on your video card. Getting more normal RAM won’t improve your slop generation.
>>107268685Why do you need more than 16GB RAM on your own computer?>I'm a video editorNo you're not, you live vicariously through youtubers that run cinebench and Premiere benchmarks.>AIOK sure>GamingNot needed>VMs and DevelopmentYour work provides gives you the machine>epeendilate
>>107276857>the bubble will stabilise into the new economyoh, the permanently high plateau, haha
The good point about this is that we might be witnessing the second game crash, and may it this time last forever.
they are 110 bucks a piece in my country
This kit was £220 on Monday morning I look forward to what it closes Friday at
>>107278040Retard-take, if the AI/ML bubble bursts hard and necessary correction takes place. The first thing that occurs that most of those future orders as the money disappears get rapidly back-peddled as soon as money disappears and demand evaporates. Prices will stabilize back to what the market is willing to pay.
>>107275889Its etailers and vendors pulling a "COVID-19", FOMO panic buying on existing inventory. They are trying force a new price discovery and make UDIMMs sell as much as RIMMs/LRIMMs. They know that FOMO whales are going to eat it up. They had already pulled this off with GPUs and motherboards. They figured system memory is the next item and used the whole AI/ML spike as the vehicle for it.
>>107268685When all tech CEOs are raped and beheaded.
>>107278468There were a bunch of decent deals on Amazon last weekend. Should have HUKD alerts turned on.
>>107281069>Arriving 10th December-23rd January lol
>>107278040The orders were made by open AI who doesn't have any money. Once the AI bubble pops they have lost the hype that is driving their only funding source. Everything relies on stupid boomer venture capital and whether they believe the hype.
>>107281016its more than that. its memory suppliers renegotiating existing contracts towards retailers with massive price bumps and scalpers buying up dozens to kits to sell to desperate consoomers
>>107281077Wasn't a retailer saying they weren't getting any new stock till late 2026?
>>107277511This is just another toilet paper panic.
>>107281077Just one of many, boyo. Already got a bunch here ready for Ebay.
>>107278221I'm on a laptop.iGPU eats up RAM
>>107268685There's infinite demand, so this is still really cheap right now
>>107278221I turned off memory compression and it's using 15 GB right now without doing any tasks
>>107281035the stock exchange did this
>>107274405one of my friends did this, had fun, and probably recouped all of his cost selling all the parts to the next people looking to do the same thingit's not like any of that hardware becomes obsolete at any significant speed
>>107278221if you buydered enough ram to last through next decade 2 years ago you would be sitting pretty right now.
Ah well, nevertheless. At least monitors are a technology that keeps getting cheaper even if CPUs, GPUs, motherboards, SSD, and RAM aren't
>>107269074No it's not people will do anything but blame billionaires and corporations
>>107281639You can blame billionaires, corporations AND AI faggots.
>>107281639They arn't buying ram sticks, they are buying fully integrated systems with HBM. It's losers like that who are eating up all the regular memory.
>>107268685I'm so happy macs suck shit at AI - at this rate, they're gonna be cheaper than PCs soon.
>>107281742>it's the fault of the demand of private people, not the suppliers rather selling their chips to data centers at premium prices
hopefully they don't cause you zoomers are trash at everything, like posting on /g/
>>107268685you literally don't need more than 16.
>>107268744>Ram prices will eventually come down as ai becomes more efficient and requires less resources for the same task.lollmao even
>price started to skyrockets the moment e-celebs started to talk about the supply issueThis >>107272609Panicfags are the reason the price raised that high within weeks you should be ashamed of yourself.
>>107268685It's fucking insane, building a PC currently and apparently AI enshittified that too. I had to buy the ram, take out the heatsink and place the heatsink onto my old DDR3 ram and send it back to amazon. I'm not paying $800 for RAM because tech bros can't get over AI; Go fuck yourself corporations and whoever gets my DDR3.
>>107278221>Why do you need more than 16GB RAM on your own computer?do you realize windows itself needs 10-14 GB?
>>107268685you don't need 64GB of RAM, if you actually did need it, the price wouldn't matter
I currently have 32gb of ram installed in my computer and was looking to upgrade to 64gb since my web browser has been steadily using more and more ram over the past 7 years up to 24gb in usage from 10gb it use to use I'm not doing anything different that I've always done but some it just takes more ram now look like I'm mega fucked for forcing my self to wait for Black Friday
>>107276448>hurr durrYeah, and grocery prices will go back down once covid ends and the supply chain isn't restricted anymore. OH WAIT, PRICES NEVER GO DOWN.>>107282516>desperately shifting the blame off the aislop corpos buying all the stock
>>107271385>using 192.168.0.0/16 instead of 10.0.0.0/8 absolutely disgusting
>>107280971the companies ordering ram/gpu all have a positive cash balance and have secured enough to pay for the orders. we are not talking about your little startups with a $10 millions cash balance but oracle, tencent, google, amazon, ... those are the ones ordering dozen of thousands NANDs. it has only begun, they are now building nuclear plants to then build even bigger data center. you aren't going to see those prices again before years, trust me.
