Why can no other laptop company begin to come close to the MacBook?How does Apple manage to win, year after year?
Does not matter how 'good' (if you consider 'good' soldered RAM and SSD, and a laptop that can't be booted from an external SSD) the hardware is if it gets shipped with a kindergarten OS
>>107269881welded ram and ssd, becomes e-waste the moment next gen gets announced. also neo-liberal design with soft corner aesthetics.. too feminine for me.
>>107269914>welded ram and ssd, becomes e-waste the moment next gen gets announced.I have a personal M1 MacBook air and see no reason to upgrade in a near future.
uh oh jeety melty
>>107269895>>107269914>old product gets replaced with new productwow, truly a phenomenon that has never, ever happened before
>>107269895i dont want to boot my laptop from an external ssd
>>107270020yeah but idk I have L380 from 2019, upgraded it twice and it's now on 32gig ram and 1tb ssd.with phone tech laptops like macbook you're fucked unless you're ok with using 8gb ram machine in 2025 and idk what size ssd's came with those 256 gigs? Those are not even aliexpress phone specs today.
>>107270043apple got you covered there
>>107270053Sure. It's cool to have upgradability. It's not a feature on a MacBook. It has other features. Besides. You still have a slow budget laptop. It just have 32gigs of ram now.
>>107269895>kindergarten OS whats kindergarten about it? compared to Windows or Gnome/KDE (underlying distro doesn't matter)
>>107270150Short canadian man said it sucks and very limiting.
>>107270134vs having slow budget laptop with 8gb ram as with op's m1 air
>>107270053thats really coolbut it doesnt have all the features i need like airdrop, hand off, find my, macOS etc
Doesn't matter how good it is if it can't run my software.
>>107270210name 5 (five)
>>107270192guess it's a thing if you also use another piece of e-waste called iphone - phone with no filesystem and locked down os to the point that you can't install programs out of apple store.
>>107270220Hentai games.
>>107269881What ever happened to Intel Lunar Lake? Wasn't that supposed to be the Apple M equivalent for Windows Laptops?Apple's hardware could be 10 times more capable and I'd still not buy because of MacOS.
>>107270189that has, better screen, battery life, processor, build quality, trackpad and sound and arguably os. Macbooks are great laptops. It's not 2005. You don't need to take sides like in console wars ps3 vs xbox360.
>>107269895>MacOS makes me more productive because of the Apple ecosystem. It allows me to work seamlessly on all Apple devices. The features that I like are that you can share files and clipboard content wirelessly, answer calls from your iPhone using your Mac, or use your iPad as a second display for your Mac to extend your workspace. These features make my work more efficient. There are still things I didn't mention; you can see more at https://www.apple.com/macos/continuity Also, M1 can run apps that run on iOS and iPadOS. Especially apps that run on iPadOS and then are able to run on Mac, that makes the work more effective. I also like the sleek user interface. The graphical design is clean and elegant.
>>107270279No trackpoint.
>>107270053>phone tech laptopsL380 is a phone tech laptop
>>107269881Because other companies don't have sycophantic fans that will buy anything they release.
>>107270279>build qualityKid I know has macbook and he was showing me some stuff and in the end pulled some kind of a rag that he put over keyboard and then closed it.I was like wtf is that rag for... oh, it's to protect screen from keys... say what? And then proceeds to show me he actually has keymarks on the screen because keys are touching screen on macbook? Crazy stuff and people still buy that shit.
>>107270312I bet my L380 will yield higher frame rate in GTA5 than macbook with 10 core phone cpu.
I just realized something Only white people buy and use Macintosh
Another apple threadvert derailed kek
>>107270312>comparing an eight year old processor to the latest generationshow the real comparison
there has to be something really wrong with you to come to a tech enthusiast forum like /g/ and shill shit like Apple products that's meant to appeal to the literal lowest common denominator drooling babbling retard who needs to have their hand held while using a computer so they don't fuck shit up
why would you ever use a laptop of any kindthey are repulsive
>>107270332>GTA5are you a manchild?
>>107270369>Single thread doesn't even scale to # of physical coresYikes.
>>107270504>what are e-coreseducate yourself
>>107269881Maybe they shouldn't make 30 different models of plastic dogshit laptops every year
>>107270504its a shitty underpowered 1.8 GHz quad core processor what did you expecteven the chip on my ancient 2014 macbook performed better
>>107270053so don't buy an 8GB one? my 128GB laptop is unlikely to just be ewaste when I get a new one. It'll always be useful for something
>>107270170in what way
>>107269914please tell me the access points are functional
>>107270562kek
sell more for less money get big profit margin.
>>107269936Jay is a hero for explaining the truth to Anons.
>>107270286Remember, unemployed autists don't have to be productive.
>>107270392Current macOS is Unix variant, just like Linux.Apple has done a better job with their UI than the 100,000+ Desktop Linux Distributions being shilled on /g/.
>buy macbook>it comes with little storage so pay significantly more for more storage>it only has thunderbolt ports so buy an expensive dock to have ports>actually using a laptop screen sucks dick so budget for a monitor>pay for icloud+ >it's only good for a few years before it slows down and you have to buy the next one>might as well buy airpods (disposable) because muh ecosystem>spedn 5-7K to have a laptop that can't play games and has a smaller software library than a $800 PC poorfag build
I'll probably get a Macbook for my next laptop, trying to use my newer Lenovo laptop for writing C++ and compiling stuff while using I use Arch btw just drains 100% of my battery in an hour and a half. Completely unacceptable.
>>107270053The m1 max 14" MacBook pro I bought 4 years ago has 64gb ram tho
>>107269881>closed system>doesn't give a fuck about gaming>cares about productivity>social statusyou can shit on its os and ios system overall but it's focused on what it wants to do and has never changed since. until it does tryhard and want to enter gaming space, only then will it be shit.
>>107272303If you're not flying, see if Anker has one of their large 20,000+ mAH batteries available. You maybe able to double the time your Arch box can run on battery.
>>107272176>>it only has thunderbolt ports so buy an expensive dock to have portsYou can get an external enclosure for an SSD from MacSales. The 1M2 enclosure uses the entire enclosure top as a heat sink. No need for a dock.I have a dock. I pull it out of the bag every 9+ months. My M1 Max hasn't slowed down.
>>107269881Despite lurking here since 2011 or something and shitposting against apple for years, I had to pull the trigger and use a Pro M1 back when it released. Since then I had the chance to work with a M2 air as well and now I got the M5 as a private non-work laptop. All I can say is, the silicon macbooks are genuinely excellent machines. The recent Liquid Ass aesthetic is very questionable but the OS is solid as well.I would be way more critical if there were better alternatives, but it's hard to find a laptop that both feels and actually is better in terms of hardware; modern Windows being putrid shit seals the deal honestly
>>107270170Who?
>>107270266intel is basically dead
If you use a mac, you do not, in fact, own your computer.
>>107272517The retard isn't even right, all the USB C ports are thunderbolt
>>107273343t. pedo
Give it to me straight Should I buy a refurbished M4 pro MacBook Pro?
>>107273367What if I was? The point is it should be your computer, and nobody should be able to police you in the privacy of your home, whether what you do is legal or not. Because once that door is open, it's open for everyone, the "good guys", and the "bad guys". Your privacy is gone, and your right to decide what you do and what you don't is not yours anymore.Do you like being treated like a child?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTGY4kJRXu0
>>107273367I demand you let me look through all of the pictures in your phone right now. We will publish them on tor. I'm a civil servant, so it's OK. You don't have anything to hide, do you? I'll be the judge of that ;)
>>107273425One of the problems is that even though you pay exorbitant amounts for these devices and their software, they don't simply consider you a customer, they also consider you a product that they can sell to governments and other corporations as well.
>>107273367They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
>>107273343"Protecting the children" will always be their way in. unfortunately, we all know this is just a cover up.If they really wanted to protect children they should make laws that punish parents that do not supervise their children, just like you don't give a car and the keys to a child they should not have access to unlocked smartphones and computers, devices specially made for children would be better.
>>107273508Everyone was losing their shit over windows looking over your shoulder with copilot at all times while apple has been doing it for years now. Apple users are real sheep.
>rights? you don't need those if you don't have anything to hide. apple will decide what you have the right to do and what you don't
>>107273367>plea of emotionAre you a woman? You sound like a woman.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_of_the_children
>>107272448>>closed systemWhat do you mean? Ios is closed. But on Macos you can install whatever you want. You also have full terminal as in linux.
>>107269881>no dude macbooks are so good now!>*plugs in usb keyboard*>find out that the now 20+ year old bug where your usb keyboard stops working still has yet to be fixed
>>107273624You cannot install unsigned software without jumping through hoops made for children, and you cannot modify the system. Only apple can modify (or in some cases access) the full extent of the OS in "your" computer.
>>107273650>You cannot install unsigned software without jumping through hoops made for childrenOpen unsigned programs in setting or a terminal command is not hoops. Windows does the same by the way.
>>107273472So even if the files themselves aren't transferred, they are indexed by apple. Technically, apple employees have access to a record of what is in every single picture you have looked at on your mac. Not to mention your government can potentially have access to it too.Surely that won't backfire ever. LMAO
>>107273508I don't care about that I just want a laptop that has good battery life and runs photoshop and is Unix like
>>107270327Yeah sadly that kid didn't get the memo. You absolutely cannot use a keyboard cover on macbooks, the tolerance is too tight and it will leave marks. Yet some retards insist on using them lmao
>>107270043>corrupted bootloader >"sorry, you'll have to pay $1000 for a repair"
>>107273596Imagine snitching on 30,000 of your customers/friends and then claiming that you are all about data privacy and security. Rotten Apple
it does just work. And dev environments are pretty painless to setup on Mac. So many people are giving up on Windows native and even using WSL can be a fucking pain in the ass sometimes.
I will never buy a Mac because they have a very limited games library. I only use my computer for games
>>107269914>welded
>>107269881>How can nobody else have balls I like to gargle as much as Apple's?Eat shit.
macs are genuinely dogshit devices and there's nothing else to be said.
>>107269881>buys a laptop to only use google chrome>duh this laptop is better for google chrome because uhm lol
>>107269881>How does Apple manage to win, year after year?if it wasn't for apple existing, other laptops would be in a good spotnot for the reason you think though
>buy a mac >become a productivity machine
>>107269881We have gotThe Johny Srouji, and they have not
My company that I work at buy truckload of HP Dragonfly to do documents.
there is no equivalent to macsmacs have:>soldered SSD/RAM/WLANdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>when pajeetOS runs out of RAM it swapfile rapes the SSD to death within 3 yearsdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>when the SSD dies it bricks your entire currybook because the EFI is stored on the soldered SSD to save $0.05doesnt exist on 99% of PCs>components serial numbered and tied to the motherboard to prevent repair and replacement (including battery)doesnt exist on 99% of PCs>riveted keyboard that requires total destruction of the chassis to replacedoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>flexgate cables that are so brittle they crack from opening your screen past 90 degrees more than 2 dozen timesdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>screens so fucking shit they have over 90ms response times (essentially 10Hz)doesnt exist on 99% of PCs>screen made from pajeet trash glass that cracks from temperature change in seasons or tape over the iBotnet webcamdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>so fire and explosion prone the FAA have banned them from all flightsdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>uses phone CPU that's so shit it gets destroyed by decade old i3s from 2017 and can only "compete" by cheating at benchmarks in extreme edge cases with hardware acceleratorsdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>curryniggers at apploo get so full of sniffing their own currynigger silicon shit they ship currybooks with no fans and they run so hot they melt the keyboard keysdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>keyboards with 63.5% failure rateunheard of on PCs, and yet you curryniggers defend it with "jus werx fer me!"just because you're in the 36.5% survivor group doesn't make your currynigger trash any goodthis list goes on foreverthere's no PC laptop as total fucking currynigger shit as crapple's streetshitter booksthey are the biggest heaps of steaming currynigger shit in the history of computing second only to curryPhones
>>107270286>MacOS makes me more productive because of the Apple ecosystemMaybe, but less productive overall because you have to wrestle with the shitty UI.>It allows me to work seamlessly on all Apple devicesAre you working on your phone or something?>you can share files and clipboard content wirelesslyKDE connect.>answer calls from your iPhone using your MacOr I can just use my phone that's right there?>use your iPad as a second displayOr you can use an actual monitor like a normal person.>run apps that run on iOS and iPadOSSuch as? What do you need that isn't on PC?>I also like the sleek user interface. The graphical design is clean and elegantKek. It looks like shit.
Tell me, should I buy a MacBook if I absolutely do not want to spend any money on any software after I buy the MacBook? Unironic question
>>107272168>Current macOS is Unix variantYes, a shitty, locked down one.>Apple has done a better job with their UI than the 100,000+ Desktop Linux DistributionsNo way you're actually serious, right?
>>107269914this post is peak goy
>>107269881I really have no freaking clue. This has always confused me. Mac hasn't realistically been relevant since the iMacs. Remember those? That was the last time they were seen in any real business setting.I think dumb monkeys get used to one thing and never test the waters on what they don't know or understand. They probably order the same meals everytime at fast food restaurants and have a set schedule of what casseroles they're going to eat on which day(s) of the week.
>>107274090>good battery lifeI genuinely don't understand this. Are you using you laptop in the middle of the woods or something? How often are you in a situation where you NEED to work RIGHT NOW and there isn't an outlet within 5 meters for longer than an hour or two?
>>107281188name a single laptop that can compete with a macbook
>>107281234Thinkpad/Latitude/Elitebook
>>107281234There isn't one because competition implies that they're comparable. Instead, every single non apple laptop BTFOs everything made by apple with 0 difficulty.
>>107269881>omg its just so good!>try it out>20-45 fucking fps in nearly every 3d program thrown at it even if its made for their not-arm cpubarfvomitpuke
>>107281140>you have to wrestle with the shitty UI.this what you have to do on windows and linux machines (especially the linux ones)
>>107281405are there non-apple laptops with 128gb of vram
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHAT CHILD ENTERTAINERS SAY TO FAGGOT GUILLIBLE KIDS
>>107269895The soldered SSD thing is just evil, like there's no point at all for it to be designed like that, other than to ensure the user's data is totally fucked if anything happens and to ensure the laptop becomes a worthless brick once the ssd wears out.Even cheap HP laptops have nvme slots and let you boot from usb or the sd card slot etc, and let you boot your own choice of OS.I could never give money to apple, it's literally being cucked. Paying money to get assraped. Paying to get abused.
>>107281188>That was the last time they were seen in any real business setting.Every company I have ever worked with gives Macbooks as standard laptops. Some want to run Linux or whatever, and then it's dell. That's mostly all the corporate computers, basically.
>>107269881>Minus tech tip.Fuck off op.
