Just found an offer for a used MSI 4070 Ti Super with 1 year warranty for 600 euro. The only other card I'm willing to buy is the 5070 Ti but it's 800 euro minimum. It's not worth paying 200 euro more for the 5070 Ti, right?

Need a pair of HDDs to buy for storing media. Not looking for a NAS setup or anything (I’m not that autistic… yet) just looking for a pair to put in my build and setup with raid 1. I’ve only got a 4tb seagate barracuda that’s creeping up to 7 years old (somehow) and I’ve got some stuff in there that I don’t want to risk losing from a drive failure.

Looking for at least 8tb each. Price isn’t an issue. I’ve been looking at potentially getting some NAS drives (more reliable apparently?) or refurbished enterprise drives. But are those suitable for storing in my workstation? I don’t have my pc running 24/7 like a NAS or a server.

>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
RTX 50 Super, 2026 launch? 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super. Potentially cancelled, likely q3 if still being released
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
AMD FSR "Redstone" Arrives December 10, Exclusive to Radeon RX 9000 Series

>Product Notice

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.

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>>107272940
It's usually less than a 20% difference between the two.

>>107272940
5070 Ti is pretty much a 4080 Super levels of performance

basically what >>107272992 said

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if you want to see the real explosion in RAM prices, just wait for every YT influencenigger to hop on the clickfarm and make a video about it over the next few weeks, releasing their chimp viewers unto every online retailer for months to come, creating a self-fulfilling prophecy
all while they're complaining all over reddit that the prices aren't going down soon enough

I have a 5060 ti 16gb and need a new second monitor. Both of my current ones at 1080p, is it worth it to upgrade one of them to 1440p and leave the other as 1080p for a while? Or is it better just to grab a new 1080p one if I want to ride the 5060 TI for at least 5 years?

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>>107272940
is this worth 200 extra eur?

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Every single store is updating me and giving me shipping info for my orders
Except the store I ordered my RAM from
And they have put up the price of that RAM 3 times since I ordered it

>>107273033
1440p and DLSS if you need to

>>107272992
>>107273006
So it's a good idea to just get that 4070 Ti Super? I've read the model (MSI Ventus 2X) isn't very good but I don't know how true that is. People shit talked my Asus GTX 1080 model and yet it's been working fine for a decade now, except for the chink fans that I swapped with Noctua fans after like 3 years and I'm doing the same to this new card after warranty ends.

>>107273040
You bought the RAM when you ordered it.

>>107272940
I would get the 5070 TI if you can afford it, the 5 year warranty alone is worth $200, having said that if you OC the 5070 TI it actually around a 4080 as blackwell have better OC, they also have better temps and you are future proof in terms of features both cards are good though so it depends on your budget

>>107273047
>So it's a good idea to just get that 4070 Ti Super?
Yeah, spend the 200 on something else.

>>107273044
Thanks.

>>107273047
I just always shove as much into GPU as possible since I only upgrade once every 3 gens minimum that's like 5-6 years. So I'd get the 5070TI. What else are you gonna spend the $200? RAM?

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Anyone know if these issues are fixed yet? Apparently Where Winds Meet is not using the transformer model so it's gated to the Nvidia app.

>>107273065
The vanilla warranty in Europe is 2 years though.

>>107273096
>Apparently Where Winds Meet is not using the transformer model so it's gated to the Nvidia app.
Update DLLs manually, set transformer model with NvidiaProfileInspector for WWM.

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>>107273025
ABANDON YOUR COPES
BUY DDR5 NOOOOOW!!!! (use affiliate links in description)

>store slashes $50 of a motherboard price and then immediately lists it as out of stock
I'm getting tired of these jewish tricks. They literally said they had it in stock an hour ago not even marked low stock before the price cut. What do they even gain from pulling this crap

>>107273088
I don't have budget problems, I could buy a 5090, I just don't like spending more than things are worth, I'm a scrooge. I also don't play a lot of AAA crap so I feel like anything more than a 5070 Ti is overkill even though I plan on keeping it for at least 4 years as I always do.
>>107273065
I don't really care about long warranty since I'm eventually going to mod the fans and case and that's going to void it, I just need 1 or 2 years of warranty to ensure the card doesn't have serious issues.

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>>107273126
>I don't have budget problems, I could buy a 5090, I just don't like spending more than things are worth, I'm a scrooge.

>>107273096
It uses dlss 4 with the transformer model that retard is just making shit up https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/dlss-4-multi-frame-gen-arc-raiders-deadzone-rogue-where-winds-meet/

What are the at least "okay" 5070 TIs available? As long as it's not the Shadow 3x or the Ventus 3x?
There's no point in waiting anymore correct? But that doesn't mean I want to use those obvious easily fucked GPUs for years to come.

How do i find out if i damaged my mobo(circuits, loss contact etc) from mishandling?

So, with the recent news, waiting for 50s super is out of the question?

DDR5 was a mistake

>>107273171
you turn it on in a pc and witness something not function

>>107273126
If that's the case just buy the 5070ti for mfg and the newer architecture
That 20% gap will likely be larger like 3/4 years from now anyways
>I also don't play a lot of AAA crap
Then use your old gpu

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hi
where is 128gb ram kits :DDD

>>107273171
try turning it on, why are you suspecting this? have you dropped your motherboard?

>>107273187
We'll know for sure after CES but with the dram price hikes they are gonna be scalped to hell and back. Regardless if you really need the super for the extra vram check if you have access to 60 days return policies. on your country, that way you can buy now some of the msrp cards and then return it if they get announce during CES, if you only have 30 days you'll have to pray that prices are not retarded around the 2nd week of december.(CES IS 6 TO 9 ON JANUARY)

>>107273213
a month ago you could have all you can eat RAM for 200$, get a time machine brozef

>>107273188
What's the point of DDR5 if you can't run more than 2 DIMMs without major problems?

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>>107273225
>get a time machine brozef
I don't like how the default response to every problem nowadays is just "get a time machine"
Even DDR2 is now 10 euros per gigabyte

>>107273160
That article just says they added frame generation.

According to this guy's overlay it uses older preset D upscaler. J and K are the new transformer.
https://youtu.be/Uy9mAn9Q1xs?t=167

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>>107273225
>a month ago you could have all you can eat RAM for 200$
lies
it was already stupidly expensive as it was compared to ddr4

https://old.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1p28d81/if_you_invested_1000_in_nvidia_in_2015_it_would/

NVIDIA WON

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Got all my shit set up.
Didn't really expect how quiet a new computer would be.
I'm here playing Cyberpunk on Maxed bullshit and the computer isn't making a noise and the GPU isn't pushing past like 45C.

I guess no shit going from an I7 6700K & 1080Ti to a 9800X3D & 5080 would be a big leap.

>>107273198
The "newer architecture" and mfg won't carry the 5070 Ti that far. When the 4070 TiS starts struggling, so does the 5070 Ti. He's better off buying the 4070 TiS.

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I should have listened I should have boughted

>>107273238
instead of buying those cuck kits can buy a 6400c42 for 390€

>>107273256
GO 4K MAKE THE LEAP

eu should criminalize use of AI and then we'd all have cheap pc parts

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>>107273248
I have the game retard, you can literally see that it runs 3.10.2 which is DLSS4 with transformer models, are preset including that one use the transformer model, yes you can force a more recent preset using the nvidia app, dlss inspector, dlss tweaker or even replacing the dll manually from the github repository but that doesnt mean that the game is not using the transformer model

https://github.com/NVIDIA/DLSS/releases

>>107273295
eu would just put 500% tariff on them

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>>107273295
how so? US is the one causing all of this because of an imaginary race against chyna

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SHIP MY FUCKING RAM

DON'T YOU DARE CANCEL MY ORDER

>>107273265
When Jensen said "the more you buy the more you said" he meant it because it was a warning for the upcoming shortages

>>107273300
3.10.1*

>>107273295
The EU will soon shut down all its AI sector so they will have more money to pay gibs to moroccan and ethiopian rapists

>>107273195
I been trying to install graphics driver(intel b580) and it crashes midway thru. Gpu is running fine afaics fans and light is running.
>>107273215
It boots up ok, im just stressing if i did some damage as i believe i might have scratched the back side with the stand off screws when i trying to line up the mobo to the rear io shield. Also dropped a couple screws while mounting up the mobo :(

>>107273278
I might do.
I think next year will be the audio-visual update where I get a schitt stack and upgrade my monitors.

>>107273316
the EU has a regulatory body, the US is run by a cripto scammer and tech bros, that's why

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I want a quiet and low-power workstation upgrade, any suggestions for the choice of CPU/motherboard?

The XG27AQDMG is fucking sold out locally

>>107273372
workstation? get an aio and a 16 cores cpu

>>107273385
it's ogre...

half of this general is just gonna be screencaps of RAM listings for the next month

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>>107273251
I told my dad to invest in AMD and NVIDIA stocks in the mid-2010's but he didn't listen or take me seriously because I was still in middle school.

>>107273397
I'm stuck on 32GB because of this, do you think it's funny?

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>>107273397
It should be because this is ridiculous

>>107273295
You retards need to understand that AI is just a buzzword for boomer, even before chatgpt traditional computing was being replaced by accelerated computer at the high level.

What nvidia sells are supercomputers that are extremely fast at doing linear algebra and matrix x matrix operations even without the AI bomb shit would be exactly the same because at the end of the day governemnt or corporation needs faster compute to keep up with the competition, the only difference is that every financial model, predictive analyst or anything that used these type of compute was being calculated in the CPU's in 2015s and now is being done in the GPU's. Which is why AMD and Intel are fuck, most of the big contracts nvidia secure are with governments and macrocorporation, the whole AI shit is just so boomer dont ask themselves why the fuck would my government need so much compute if its not to implemente mass surveillance on my web footprints

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>>107273441
>corsair website
>dominator

Just buy a non-rgb vengeance kit from amazon

>>107273355
Those are just fronts for jews, banks, and the intelligence apparatus, who also work for the jews. Elon Musk went "rocket buying" in Russia in the early 2000s. You can only do that if you are connected to intelligence. Plus he brought with him some intelligence guys: one of them would become the President of In-Q-Tel shortly after that trip.

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>>107273449
forgot pic

>>107273449
>non-rgb
No

>>107273459
Are you a monkey?

>>107273372
285k or 265k and an aio of your choice

285K IS $430, BUY NOW BUY NOW BUY NOW

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Glad I didn't wait.

>>107273500
why?
I dont need estrogen cores on desktop

I need the XG32UCWMG to play hentai games

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>>107273457
You can get that kit for 670 aud on amazon.au which is roughly 375 euro. I'd buy quick if able to elsewise watch it go to 2400 aud like the amazon us listing.

>>107273385
just buy 4k 27" at that point unless you want 500hz
looks tremendously better

>>107273384
>>107273397
>>107273415
>>107273441
>>107273457
>>107273515
should I panic buy the last affordable 128gb kit
I dont even plan to build a pc

>>107273300
DLSS version and DLSS presets are different. Newer DLSS version still supports old presets, out of which J and K are the transformer models.

this might be new information to some but as an oled monitor user it can be disappointing due to the ever present burn in mitigations
a bright picture will look dim because it has a lot of white at high luminance and the monitor "protects" itself by clipping the highlights

I think a miniled VA would be a better experience in many situations, but oled is still best for videogames.

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I wish I got 64GB when I built early this year. Maybe someday I'll splurge on it, if I need to.

>>107273551
Most monitors have settings you can turn off for that. You bought the panel, you should use the whole panel.

this nigga gonna be posting overpriced ram kits no one buys all month

>>107273574
I kinda dont want to completely abandon the hope to use warranty on the thing

>>107273295
>EU
Chyna, Gooks, 11s & USA make all the silicone, Chyna & USA are the AI data center builders, EU can outlaw its own butthole and it won't change shit because it won't impact the market.

Take the 300W desktop pill

>>107273335
if it werks it werks

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>>107273537
Preset K was not added until v310.2.1. it has nothing to do with the transformer model supporting old presets,

As i said 3.10.1 IS the transformer model you moron. read the github link

>>107273584
I turned off a bunch of shit with a service remote and the panel randomly died one day, they replaced it. It's a shitty Samsung monitor though, they're know to do that whether you mess with it or not.

>>107273397
no shit, its a damn clownshow.

>>107273528
are you on a budget? then no, its kinda too late at this point. now if you are a big boy with a thick purse and don't care about money then sure, at leas for the next half a year it should only go up

>>107273601
What could be the cause of the hard crash whenever im installing the driver? Could it be the OS? For context im using a cracked windows11 i found on torrent

the prices are at all time highs, is this the time to buy? use your brain, think.

>>107273637
>what could be the cause of the crash
>im using windows 11
windows 11

>>107273551
>miniled VA
miniled doesn't fix the ghosting, like someone's smearing shit all over it

just buy DDR4

>>107273118
kek

>>107273641
It is the time to buy if you need something now.

>>107273690
That's more expensive than it's ever been

>>107273459
considering how temp sensitive ddr5 is and how much heat the rgb elements emit (based on my ddr4 royal neo kit) you are just cucking yourself

>>107273551
>due to the ever present burn in mitigations
disable everything for best pq and stop coping
>a bright picture will look dim because it has a lot of white at high luminance
not in sdr with no dimming tho

>I think a miniled VA would be a better experience in many situations
enjoy getting cucked by other variants of problems

>>107273559
>c36
that does not even guarantee hynix dies?
brutal

>>107273584
all dimming bullshit is aids pixel refresh is good enough to not cope

>>107273630
last kit that is 390€
considering lower amounts are even same or more, makes no sense
imagine buying a gskill 128gb 6000c32 kit for 1500€ now

>>107273641
GPU's are at msrp

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>>107273690
LMAO

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>>107273603
I don't know man, I'm getting mixed signals here.
https://x.com/i/grok/share/AiclKx4EnitotB3PcElR8Wotr

>>107273646
Is it really that simple?

imagine it
green plate nameless chinknesium RAM
4800 cl 42
for the low low price of 10$ per gb
this is our future

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This is my current PC I'm using.

I'm honestly a bit clueless about how parts work together and what optimal parts to get and stuff, but I feel like I want to upgrade something.

My PC is insanely slow on start up now and takes a good 10-15 minutes before it gets it shit together and starts working, and even then it has the occasional hiccup and slows down for a bit.

If you had this rig, what would you do? Upgrade something? Get an entirely new PC?

Open to any and all help/criticism

Compatability mentioned in the screenshot was about having up to date BIOS to work with the CPU which mine currently does

Is there anything in this rig that's stopping something else from reaching its full potential or anything like that?

>>107273713
>last kit that is 390€
do it, then immediately flip it for x4 profit or x8 a week later
>>107273747
yes just make sure to not buy a "SMART" one

>>107273761
>My PC is insanely slow on start up now and takes a good 10-15 minutes before it gets it shit together and starts working, and even then it has the occasional hiccup and slows down for a bit.
huh? you are on an NVMe, it should take you like 11 seconds from boot to be playing your favorite gaym

>>107273761
the pc is great, there is nothing wrong with it at all, except for the shitty psu, get a decent one, they are cheap
you probably have a bunch of bloatware + w11 + untuned ram + not undervolted cpu, hardware is fine if it's slow it has to be software I think

>>107272447
Ok I've changed the psu to modular and upraded the ram. I've even saved a little bit. Should be solid now yeah?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sXpsqH
The case is Chieftec Pro mini AZ-01B-OP.

>>107273747
They're pretty cool, just avoid foods with starch to avoid giving yourself cancer.

>>107273747
Sometimes it will smell lke burning plastic, although I have the cheapest model. Make sure that your smallest plate can get in, so you won't have to clean the tray when reheating something.

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>>107273776
>wifi air fryer

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>>107273641
>all time high today
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Let's wait
Just wait 1 month
Just wait 2 months
Just wait 3 months
Just wait 6 months
Just wait 1 year
Just wait 2 years
Just wait for AI bubble to burst
Just wait for 8090
Just wait for 2800X3D4

>>107273776
>x4 profit or x8
you can still buy ones for 600€ or even 800€
5600 stuff
6000c32 kits are like 1800€ lmao
I'm getting fomoed into buying a 5090 due to scare tactics
2000€ 5090s will seem like a steal now they will reach release prices back to 4000€
it's over

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>>107273834
what the actual fuck

>>107273776
>do it
they had several in stock but still buyable now but not shipping in months...
last few ones in stock sold out

>>107273834
M.2 money supply

>>107273827
you would think I'm joking but all top end models have it, only the lower power models with dial control don't have the digital cancer in them and yes you VILL need to register and account and UPDOOOT the malware of your fucking air fryer before you can cook something on it.
So get dumb version, with dials and no fucking digital panels.

>>107273823
>Buying an air fryer that uses plastic
Micro-plastic maxing

>>107273789
Sorry, should point out that what I selected is an additional hardrive, my boot drive is a 1TB PCS 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (520MB/R, 470MB/W) (I just copy pasted what the order said)

>>107273791
What would the benefits of a new PSU be? More efficient?
Thanks for the insight, is there any program you know of that specialises in a PC clean up to help me get rid of bloat?
I'm still on Windows 10 if that means anything, are there guides available for what you mentioned about untuned ram and undervolted CPU?
Thanks

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now is the last time to get into hardware
if you dont buy a 5090 now when they will become 4000€ again you wont be able to resell it to buy the 6090 which will release at 3999€ msrp and be 5000-6000€ real retail price
ram will up
ssd will be up
the gpu housing market will become more of a reality
if you haven't bought in like the boomers and flip your 90's series every 2years you will be left behind
it's over

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Asus please can I have a post code? a 7 segment display, that tells me exactly what's wrong with the board? It costs $0.40 to add it to a motherboard
>Asus

>>107273883
windows 10 is better than 11
uninstall all software you don't need or use
turn on xmp settings on the bios for the ram, if you really wanna get into it watch actually hardcore overclocking on youtube
a good gold cybenetics PSU costs less than 150, it powers your pc, you use a bronze one which I assume it's pretty bad
also update your bios and install the latest amd chipset drivers
that's the maintenance I'd suggest

>>107273905
>but I will just buy a lower end car- ACK
the low tier gpus will be axed due to memory costs
the gpu market will be have yachts and have not's
you will either have an igpu and play solitaire all day or you will be playing 12k native with a 5090
we are in the nightmare
abandon all your common sense and buy buy buy

>>107273761
just get a better gpu and wipe all that garbage slowing your system down

>>107273924
You know what's cheaper than a $0.40 7 segment display?
$0.05 of plastic.

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>>107273843
you think this is hot? watch this in the industry we call it VTOL NO HANDS maneuver

Overclocking the 5080, worthwhile? What are some good numbers?

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How the WD SN7100? Pretty cheap now in shithole land. I read it's DRAM less, does it matter that much?

>>107273883
Like even with an old SSD it shouldn't take you 15 minutes to load. In fact it shouldn't take you a minute to load. Software issue

>>107273954
Yes, you can get close to 4090 performance.

>>107273834
The PC market has been stagnating for years due to mild improvements and poor purchasing power, so many people have old hardware, waiting for a better moment to upgrade. So when they see the prices skyrocket, they go into last chance panic buy mode.

A wise person dusts off his old PC and enjoys the profit of selling his midrange hardware to these idiots who think it's gold now.

just buy DDR3

ddr6 in 2028 roughly?
who is taking the waitpill and coping
6090 gonna release before that
bad timing

>>107274104
I built my 64gb ddr 5700x3d system early in the year and now I'm getting a 9070 xt, I'm set until ddr6 in 2032

TAKE THE WAITFAG PLEDGE

NO NEW PURCHASES UNTIL 2029

JOIN ME

>>107273964
you could find that exact model in the op as a recommended budget option. It is a good midrange year old PCI-4 drive.
>does it matter
for workstation tasks

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THE ORDER HAS SHIPPED

THE RAM IS ON ITS WAY

THE RAM GODS HAVE SPARED ME

>>107274149
Are you sure they didn't just make the label?

>>107274149
memento mori

>>107274149
>6 fingers

>>107274161
i dun goofed
So is just every single image on google search AI now

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>>107274117
>5700x3d
too stuttery

>>107274130
I can give you my old clown-wig and the red nose left from the HK era, you will need them.

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I love AMD. When shit isn't stable you know right away.

>>107274130
doing this unironically
can't lose if you don't play

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>>107274130
hmm

>>107273747
Even tho I use an air fryer on more days than not, it still kinda feels like cheating. Devs rly need to buff other cooking tools.

>>107274194
kek

>Only Asus could make a worthwhile mainboard (with a superjew premium)
>Gigabyte ans MSI are jank shits
>Asrock is unreliable as hell

I'm still using a 2080. Is there anything notable coming out in the next year or two that I wouldn't be able to run on this?

>>107272842
What ATX full tower case is the best right now without it costing an absurd amount of money
I also need it to have an external 5.25 bay

>>107274130
Still going strong with Celeron E3200 and 2GB RAM, imagine spending money on hardware in the year of our lord 2025.

>>107274274
Of course not. Nvidia looks after its customers and doesn't abandon them 2 years later. Enjoy DLSS4 buddy!

>>107274244
There are no worthwhile motherboards
It's all segmentation on top of segmentation.
Even the highest end boards are built to a price because at the top end it's not about offering features and sane layouts but extracting from whales.

>>107274308
I can't remember the last time I played a game that actually supported DLSS

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Please Asus a post code I don't have $500 for a motherboard Asus that $500 is for ram Asus

>>107272842
>>107272842
Hey sorry to ask for a spoonfeed but would you guys recommend something for ~2k

USA east coast. Preferably Nvidia card and intel cpu

>>107274370
That's why I went Gigabyte, you can get post codes for cheap from them.

>>107274390
9800X3D AND A RTX 5090

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Asus please I don't need to scratch up my gpu pcie with that quick release just a post code for $200 please

>>107274390
128gb of RAM and you can treat yourself to a happy meal with the change

>>107274399
>>107274421
can you kys
thanks

Is it normal for there to be some fluctuation in aio pump rpm? I set it to 80% but watching it on hwinfo and it's still fluctuating between 3100 and 3150.

>>107274421
Not with how much happy meals cost these days

>>107274415
This looks fake and gay, AI generated. My cards always stuck on the right side and it's impossible the push down that fucking plastic shit.

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ASUS please the LEDs are not enough just 1 post code for $200 I'll go to $250 even

how much should I be worried about ssd failure? I have my OS installed on a ~4 year old sata ssd, and I just ordered a new m.2 to store mostly just games. should I move the OS to the m.2?

>>107274459
buy a simple speaker

>>107274471
Yeah, much faster. The SATA is still good for games.

>>107274471
unless you are buying chinesium mystery meat trash off aliexpress it's not even worth worrying about just make sure you have proper backups for your important data. But the m.2 will be faster than your sata so sure do a swap then

>>107274471
Definitely move it, don't worry about failure. But you should be backing up anyway.

>>107274509
>>107274516
>>107274536
thanks, both drives are kingston so I think they should be ok. The sata only has a new linux install so I hope backing up and switching doesn't take too long

I'm seeing 5080s under msrp and i'm so tempted even though it'd make not much sense

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>>107274558
I hope it's not A400...

>>107274560
Why wouldn't it make sense? They're great cards.

>>107274390
14600 and a 5070ti
Could also do a 265k
>spoonfeed
no

does anyone here have the 9070 xt steel legend? it is severely unpriced and no one buys them, what is the problem? also, can it be used vertically? I heard it has extra problems in that position

>>107274390
Something like this, but an AMD CPU will run games faster.
The front IO panel is located on the bottom of that case btw.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wmqz2x

Corsair RM1000x (2024) 1000 W
good enough for a 5090?
partpicker says estimate 847W or do I want more breathing room?

>>107274560
It's a good card. It's just not good value for money card by price to performance.
But, if you want that performance, you can't buy anything else.

If you can afford it, why not? Honestly, at this rate you could probably buy one, sell it in the middle of next year for a profit and go back to using your current card.

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>>107274590
...It is

>>107274663
Partpicker is already pretty generous with the power recommendation. 1000W is almost certainly more than enough.

>>107274663
I would get at least 1000W, depending on the CPU, number of fans and other peripherals
Also just get the HXi series

>>107274663
1200w minimum, what the fuck, you're already paying $2000 for a card stop being cheap

>>107274663
Probably okay, but you should undervolt the card or at least limit it to run between 900~1000mV.
I would buy a 1200~1300W PSU if I were building a 5090 PC.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3xmNnQ/super-flower-leadex-vii-platinum-pro-1200-w-80-platinum-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-1200f14xp
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FfFmP6/be-quiet-pure-power-12-m-1200-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn513

1000W PSUs aren't causing the connector melt though. It happens on higher-capacity PSUs too.

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>>107274716
It is a 575W card. 575 WATTS

I'm looking for a wireless (USB not Bluetooth) mouse with ultra smooth scrolling. I don't want a mouse that requires software to do smooth scrolling since I'll be using it on Linux
Any suggestions

>>107274725
so you don't know about wattage spikes when gpus "wake up", gotcha

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list
need to change a cooler, but what else could be changed for a middle build?

>>107274727
>linux is soo unstable and buggy he needs to have mice with no software so they're usable
kek

>>107274663
>jewing out on a PSU after paypigging for a 5090
jesus christ some things never change. 1200-1300w minimum or bust anon.

why is intel so obsessed with lakes, what's the deal, i expected after so many generations they would change the name at some point

>>107274775
Cool list bro.

>>107274682
duuuude...

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>>107274390
GEM ALERT

>>107274775
YOU DIDN'T GIVE AN ACTUAL LINK

>>107274775
this was my favorite post in a long while
it actually took me a second cause it opened my current pc list that i keep on pcpp for references
10/10 no notes anon

>>107274775
>Open the link
cool all the exact same parts as me ordered from the same stores too nice one
10/10 imo

>>107274838
wow this anon has great taste

5070 just got a decent discount where i am, cheaper than the 9070
Still i dont think im biting on a 12gb card no matter how fast it is
I understand that the 5060TI 16 is a worse card but i get 16gb ram and keep the 80€ difference to buy yogurt
fuck you jensen

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>>107274799
>>107274826
>>107274834
>>107274838
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dvYGKq
Sorry, i'm a bit retarded

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>>107274390
Good luck.

>>107274880
What currency is that?

>>107274186
then what does that make my 3700x

I'm considering upgrading from my RTX3070.
Lately when I run Stable Diffusion, my rig risks powering off during transient power spikes if I don't limit GPU power draw to 70%.

This is my current build:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/nQ3DBq
And this is what I'm considering:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/fFg7zP

Amazon UK has a MSI SHADOW 2X OC GeForce RTX 5070 12 GB on Black Friday sale for a record low £450, which for me is a two generation bump and +4GB VRAM that'll improve Stable Diffusion and get more stable 4K gaming performance.
This a good graphics card? My current 3070 is a GIGABYTE, my concern with the 50 series was how much bigger they'd gotten, and with bigger power draw.

Also the PSU. If it's not my GPU failing, it's the EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750G Gold 750 W 80+ Gold PSU I'm currently using.
PCPartPicker estimates the new build would have 625W power draw, would a MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold be good enough going by the 1.4x overhead rule, or should I aim higher?
I'm not super confident in EVGA, the current unit I'm running is a replacement from when my previous PSU suddenly died in a middle of a lightweight game of Terraria.

Fuck your 600W 5090's, I'm building something that requires a 300-400W power supply like the good old days instead.

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>>107274907
usd?

>>107274663
On paper, I wouldn't want to routinely go beyond 80% load. Doing otherwise isn't a critical issue, but between efficiency curves, noise, and the PSU aging over the years, there's good reasons to go easy on your PSU.
Which implies a ~1060w PSU here. A 1000w unit seems close enough to this (high) standard.
Also, your components probs typically won't all be going all-out at the same time, so your actual load will be lower. Click on pcpartpicker's power estimate to see details.
tl;dr - 1000w ought to be fine, assuming it's a quality unit.

>>107274920
>A850GL
Get the A850GS it's higher quality and on a deal now too
It's a good price for a 5070 and unless you need 16GB and are willing to pay what would be £700+ for the 5070ti the card is fine
Your issues do sound more PSU related

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>>107274880
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dx2c2x

I don't really know why you're spending $300 on a power supply, or buying 9070XT for more than you could get a 5080 for, but... Don't do that.

>>107274932
If you purchase the mobo from MSI you can add the 9800x3d for 400 so thats 50 off the price
i have no idea about the AIO first time i seen it
Thats a very expensive 9070xt i mean like 400$ more expensive than the cheapest one....
Thats a very expensive PSU anon, i mean like 120$ more expensive than other A psu from the psu list

Im not against the choices but for that money you could tight it up and get a better gpu

>>107274932
These are insane price do not pay $1000+ for a goddamn 9070 XT it is a $600 card. A $300 PSU is also retarded. And well yeah nobody can do anything about ram so you're SOL there. There's an anon that says MSI does 9800X3Ds cheaper if you buy something from MSI

>>107274920
If you get MSI shit in the UK (I think until the end of the month?), they give you steam money.
https://uk.msi.com/Promotion/empower-your-final-quest
https://uk.msi.com/Promotion/RTX50-100STEAM/graphics-cards

>>107274942
Cool, the A850GS is only £10 more.
What's the difference exactly, just better power efficiency or something?
The specs seem near identical, other than the GS being slightly longer (still smaller than my current PSU), and having one fewer PCIe 6+2-pin Connectors (still has 3, should be all I need).

>>107274993
Thanks for the tip.
Looks like the SHADOW 2X OC isn't part of this promotion, but the A850GS PSU gets me a £5 Steam code.

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>>107274880
My take going from the other anons
https://us-store.msi.com/X870-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI msi deal for the mobo & cpu you chose and a keychain for your cuck cage for 600$

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vDQWxg

>>107275031
i remember checking it a few days ago and was 100€ from the 5090 then it was scaling down until like 20€ for a 5060TI

>>107274880
>>107275053
(me) also you didnt add storage, was that by design or an oversight?

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>>107274970
>>107274978
>>107274961
Thx bros, regarding psu, i wanted 850 just in case. And regarding Gpu, that model is sold with an insane discount and cheaper than 5080 by 20% in my shithole of a country.

>>107275068
Yeah, but it's listing models like SUPRIM, VANGUARD, GAMING TRIO, INSPIRE etc.
SHADOW isn't listed.
I could still try, I might get £40 for it, but if not I still get something for the PSU.

Thanks for the advice.

>>107275079
Oh, i just don't have those kind of deals where i am.

>>107275082
>in my shithole of a country
then tell us the country and that you aren't in the US?
else 99% of the advice is useless

>>107275082
its not a matter of the psu being 850w is that in the US that psu was very expensive, we didnt know the list was some sort of placeholder
Nothing wrong with the list if those prices make sense in your country but the gpu and the psu were very expensive in the US
Where are you anon?

pretty good deals on cases rn

>>107275145
>everybody is american

>>107275145
ye got the fractal north from best buy this morning

>>107274663
it better be, my 5090 is supposed to come in today and that's the PSU i've got

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>>107275162
Then it's back to GAMDIAS and GAMEMAX 4 u

>>107275097
>>107275133
Russia, 9070 xt after taxes here is around 870-1000 depending on the model. That elite one is exactly 1000$ and 5080 is around 1350$

the more blue fans you have the cooler your pc simple as

>>107275186
anon that gpu is way lower than a 5080
that gpu competes with the 5070TI
I mean its a fantastic gpu the 9070xt but dont go thinking you are getting the performance of a 5080 out of that card
then what i said about the rest of the list, if those prices make sense in your market then the list seemed good enough
Other than you had not storage

>>107275163
Think I'll do the same, it's the same price as an epoch now. I just wish it came with the momentum fans those are meant to be great I head aspects develop noise issues after a while

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>>107275201
hm, i see. i had my doubts about 5080 simply because it's not in the pinned suggestions list and it's still only 16 gb for that price. I'll try to see if we get that ninja air cooler here, and find cheaper 850 psu. Cheers.

>>107275162
This is an American website retard don't get your booty blasted too much.

rapid access niggers for $500? wowzers!

>>107275280
no it's an anime website you loser

>>107275256
yeah 5080 is only 16gb but more cores and faster than the 5070TI
ao again the 9070xt is a very good card but its about the same as a 5070TI in computing power but cheaper since its amd instead of nvidia
once you find abunch of PSU on your budget you can check them on the psu buying guide so you find the better one

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/htmlview?gid=1973454078

And again, you didn't put any hard drive in your list
Cheers

>>107273399
I asked my mom to buy Bitcoin in 2014 when I learned it could be used for drugs but told her it was an investment and she said no

>>107273399
Do not look at AMD stock right now

>>107275330
Do not look at Bitcoin price right now

>Samsung is reportedly preparing a major shift in its memory production strategy as DRAM demand continues to surge on the back of global AI infrastructure growth. According to Korean industry reports cited by SE Daily, the company plans to convert parts of its NAND flash lines in Pyeongtaek and Hwaseong into DRAM production, and will also run its upcoming Pyeongtaek Fab 4 (P4) as a DRAM-only line using Samsung's latest 1c process. Industry sources say Samsung has become cautious about the NAND market, while demand for standard DRAM has jumped sharply. Prices are rising fast, and some server customers are said to be offering as much as 70% higher prices for 96 GB and 128 GB DDR5 modules but still can't secure enough supply. Big tech firms reportedly expect shortages to run for years and are already negotiating DRAM allocations for 2027.

Is this good or bad for us? More DRAM is good right?

>>107275330
Do not look at your mom right now

>>107275496
Wait reading this again. I should probably buy a bigger nvme. 2 of them.

>>107275496
lemme tell you what is good for us: the Chinese Communist Party and it's Secretary-General and Our Leader Xi Jinping mandates CXMT to increase production of DRAM by tenfold using their unlimited money cheat and absolutely crush the greedy bug gook "people" that run Hynix and Samsung (the DRAM Cartel) and destroy their companies and country.
that's what is good for us.

>>107275496
>years of this shit

>>107275533
>Consumer DRAM prices crash
>Innovation grinds to a halt as there's no money in it any more.
>Still using DDR5 5300MHz in 2030.

>>107275496
>DRAM shortage
>all 2026 NAND bought out by AI goons
>all NAND manufacturers have reduced the NAND output towards the end of 2025 due to low demand
>Samsung shifting even more NAND production into DRAM
1.5k per tb of NVMe here we fucking go

>>107274641
thats gigabyte gpus not asrock. Up to you. I'd get something asap before everything skyrockets.

>>107275553
ddr5 is manufactured in like 12nm or whatever, the chinks can do 6nm, they can do good dram, specially if they invest in it and there's demand to pay some of the costs.

What has AI ever done for you?

>>107275053
Not the same anon but what you think

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VF2c2x

>>107275594
i have masturbated to it

>>107275496
>rich people fucking society over, ep. #149532457
god bless agent orange! good job america!

>>107275594
Reduce time writing emails or team messages, so i can focus more time doing the usefull stuff

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>>107275597
erm

>>107275633
I don't want Noctua to die because they're such a cool niche company that have a god commitment to brand and aesthetics that I wish more companies would adopt.

But also holy fuck who do they think they're kidding with these prices.

>>107275597
You know, it's crazy to think that if RAM prices weren't so crazy, you could get a cheaper CPU cooler and normal priced RAM and you'd be able to get a 5080 system for the same price.

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based retired intel engineer youtuber
LFIII Pro it is then

>>107275597
you dont need a 1kw psu and you dont need that cpu cooler
other than those which seems picks made on purpose and probably have some reason to be... the nvme is on the expensive side
is perfectly fine anon, i would put those extra expenses towards a 5070TI but thats me

>>107275633
I know is stupid but i really need air cooler and something that can last a lot of time and dont make to much noise.

I refuse to go with liquid coolers, i had bad experience

if people can't build their PCs because RAM prices are nuts... does that mean prices of other parts will go down?

>>107275659
>>107275653

Stupid ram prices

>>107275655
link to his shit? i dont really care but i would like to skim over his whole process

>>107275669
Gpu will go up
Storage will go up

Idk about phones or consoles

>>107275679
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlhIZoY6JpE

>>107275669
Everything else will go up because those parts will sell less.

>>107275707
that's not how it works

Unironically, what parts most define how fast Fitgirl repacks take?

>>107275722
That's how it works in the brave new world after COVID

>>107275669
I hope so, i wanna get a cheap OLED or a cheap panther lake proccesor

>>107275741
CPU & RAM

>>107275750
How cheap? They're around $400 right now, unthinkable even last year.

>>107275741
CPU and RAM.
Fitgirl repacks are just extremely compressed self-extracting archives, far beyond your typical 7zip archive with maximum compression level.

Is a 140mm Air cooler a lot better than a 120mm one? They're so goddamn big

>>107275767
$300 i live in a third world shithole so that amazon offers become around $600 with the shipping + international tax fees, the $499 one has free shipping for example and is only $60 more expensive

>>107275687
he got the thermalright air cooler, based but also
>intel
>nvidia
hard pass

>>107275741
>>107275764
>>107275773
A slow HDD could also be a bottleneck if your CPU can push more than ~60mb/s

Basically, if I have the same hardware component it's based otherwise it's cringe

>>107275806
wait no I'm retarded, the theoretical max speed of SATA3 is 600mb/s

>>107273843
TO THE MOOOOOON

>>107275822
yes, it's like how if someone likes the same music you do they have 'good taste'

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>>107273834
This won't last forever, prices will go back to normal and everything will be fire.

>>107275784
Ain't no replacement for displacement my friend.
The biggest factor in cooling is actually the biggest displacement factor of all.
The temperature of the earth's atmosphere. The rest is just how effectively you more air to the atmosphere.

>>107275741
cpu and storage

>>107275773
>>107275764
So is it literally just "Throw more cores at it"?

>>107275945
and RAM

>>107275784
check benchmarks and compare both coolers
a smaller fan can move as much air as a bigger fan, but has to work harder to do it
comparing CFUs can be a rough estimate of relative performance, but chances are the 120mm cooler already removes more heat than you need it to
so just check benchmarks, compare temps and noise levels (bigger fan = quieter)
>>107275945
if you added 10000000 cores to it, you would be bottlenecked by the RAM and >99% of the cores would be idling, waiting for the RAM to respond

>>107275594
its been pretty based, made some great songs. Dong P Bongwater is the goat of AI music.

>>107275945
Depends if the decompression software can utilize multiple cores/threads or not.
If it can then yes, otherwise single-threaded performance is the most important part.

don't worry fellas, the DRAM crash will be here in less than 2 months, this level of gangsterism isn't going to hold on for much longer
https://x.com/shanaka86/status/1991496690537492837

>>107276094
Yeah it's the same roundtripping shit that youtuber already explained weeks ago

>>107276094
>vibe revenue
kek, accurate
what does this mean for (me)?

>>107276139
What youtuber?

What software should I use for controlling my fan speeds? Or can I do it all from bios?

>>107276256
bios, always, why would you want extra software running

>>107276240
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBCujAQtdfQ

>>107276220
expensive ass gpus with driver issues never resolved

>>107276094
buy the dip

>>107276094
surely you are not retarded enough to believe the stockbros boomers

>>107276256
I use fancontrol an old version windows keep screeching about and calling a virus

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I pulled the trigger on it, I'll be doing triple monitor OLED gaming soon

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>According to TrendForce in late September, NAND Flash contract prices across all categories are expected to generally rise, with an average increase of 5–10% in 4Q25. Commercial Time notes that NAND products—including SSDs, eMMC, and UFS—are set to see double-digit quarter-on-quarter growth across the board in Q1 2026, with the price uptrend continuing.

>According to Commercial Times, the market expects NAND demand in 2026 to grow 20%–22% year over year, while supply is projected to rise only 15%–17%, making a widening supply-demand gap inevitable.

>Samsung, SK Hynix, and Kioxia are already in talks with certain big tech firms over 2027 NAND allocations.

Can someone link me a build for $800? Maybe I could stretch it juuust a bit but I'd like to keep it under $900 I don't need a lot, will be gaming at 1080p and nothing triple A.

>>107276398
unironically wait for gabecube

anons i got a 5070 for 460 yesterday. but im kind of conflicted. while i got it for below msrp i dont really need to upgrade from my 3070. i still have decent frames and okay performance at 1440p. part of me wants to learn blender and to do more video editing, but knowing me id get into blender for a few days like last time and completley drop it for months. and i ha e no idea if a gpu upgrade would make premiere any faster to work with.

can an anon tell me to just keep or return it? my buds say to keep it since the market is fucked and the super series wont be out at msrp for another year. but im just retarded and conflicted

>>107276420
I paid 625 euro for my 5070 so you better keep that shit and ENJOY it for my sake.