>>107281274
i've a t14 g1;

searching for an opensource bios;

and didnt find it;

may u help me ?

(https://coreboot.org/ | https://libreboot.org/ | https://canoeboot.org/) they dont maked it

fuck you OP, my X200 doesn't choke on the modern web

>>107281274
I have the choice between a t14 gen 1 and a x13 gen 2. I like the fact that the x13 is small but I am a poor fag and would like to use this computer for a long time. Will I be sacrificing a lot more repeatability/durability if I get an x13?

>>107281682
post temps

>>107281732
post pussy folds

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>>107281274
Why are new thinkpads so damn expensive bros, I want one so bad but God made me a Zoomer so I cannot pay 3 thousand+ yuros for a single appliance.

>>107282276
>new thinkpads
we don't really do that here. If we're being uncharitable, then
>/tpg/ = Thirdworld Poorfag General
if we're being more charitable, this is a general for linux spergs, students, and sysadmins to discuss what 5+ year old former business lease laptop they should get. Doing the most with marginal hardware that's at least somewhat customizable and serviceable.

Other thread was better. Whoever modified the text was a grade A retard.

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upgraded from Latitude 7390 to T14 G3

ThinkPad idles at 12W and Dell at 3W under Arch with all the bullshit powertop optimizations

Keyboard is the same as on Dell
Trackpoint is nice but the touchpad on T14 is fucking garbage

Battery life is 3-4h compared to 6-8h on Dell

new ThinkPads are an absolute meme

>>107281613
Doesn't exist, the DRM hasn't been cracked yet.

>>107281690
>would like to use this computer for a long time
CPU matters a lot. T14/X13 G1 Intel had warmed-over Skylake chips half as fast as the Renoir ones in the AMD version. There's less of a difference in G2.
>repairability
T14 still has a RAM slot, and if the soldered RAM fails, you can disable it by hand-soldering some jumpers and use only the slot. X13 is all soldered so you'd need specialized tools to replace it.
>durability
No big difference here.

I don't understand, which new ThinkPads are actually good? I just opened a few of them, and most of them ship with a 45% NTSC IPS display, that seems wrong?

>>107282276
if you really want to buy less expensive wait for a new gen to come out and buy the former one they are often discounted

I once bought a brand new T15 GEN2 for 800€ directly from lenovo (it was priced 1600€ here when it came out).

still working like a charm, rocking debian trixie

looking for (from most important to least important)
>good battery life (6-8+ hours doing mid tasks like blender3d, light video editing, photoshop)
>some sort of decent GPU, either the intel CPU + quadro, or Ryzen CPU with vega or radeon graphics (pretty much whatever is enough for blender, davinci, photoshop and also light gaming like PS2 emulation or indie games)
>14"-15.6" 16:10 aspect ratio, 1080p
>backlit keyboard because apparently not all thinkpads have that??
>USB-C charging (would be nice if its easily repairable, but not 100% necessary)
budget is around $300usd but I can prob go as high as $450 if it meets all of the criteria.

which gen of Ryzen CPUs have the best battery life? I read that it only started getting really good after the 4th gen of ryzen, is that true? Also, do the thinkpads with only one battery get good battery life, or should I mostly focus on looking at ones like the t480 which has the outside battery as well?

Thanks

>>107283570
that's for companies that buy thinkpads for their wageslaves.
for personal use always pick the HD 100% sRGB or even better the 2k, 3k or 4k display

>>107283905
>>14"-15.6" 16:10 aspect ratio, 1080p
oops, meant 1200p

Want to buy a laptop to install windows 95 and play some old games, any recommendation?

>>107283905
>I want a desktop-class ultraportable
These things are mutually exclusive. No laptop exists with an 8hr battery when you're beating on the CPU/GPU at full tilt doing video editing and rendering.

It's like the old chestnut - Fast, Cheap, Good -- pick 2.

>>107284275
what about one that can get ~8 hours when not doing that stuff, but is capable of handling it when needed?

>>107284328
See L14 G3-G4 with 63 Wh or T14s G2 (57 Wh but soldered RAM saves some)

>>107282276
you need to use either student/nurse discount or whatever is applicable for you, then you will need to wait for doorbuster or black friday sales as they are the largest discounts imo. Then you need to use Rakuten for discount such as they're current 10% cashback discount. They used to have 20% but I haven't seen such discounts since 2023.

All in all for reference I payed post tax 1540 usd for a P16s gen 4 AMD (yes it has no dgpu but I didnt need it) with AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX PRO 370, 64 gb ddr5 ram, 1tb storage.

is e14 gen2 with 16gb ram, ryzen 5 5500u for $130us a good deal? or are e series to be avoided?

>>107281274
found a T23 in the attic, works. what can i do with it? no pic cause chinkshit phone doesnt work

>>107285950
e series are just a lenovo laptop with the thinkpad sticker on it, just poor and bad plastic.

Best series for a 5000 series amd are T, or L

>>107283206
Thank you so much anon. I didn't know about the soldering thing.

>>107286631
>T, or L
thanks, i'll look into those. any gens in particular I should avoid or are they all decent picks?
kind of eyeing some t14 gen2 on ebay, is there much difference between the -s model and non-s one besides the soldered ram on the -s?

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>>107288311
There's been 2 or 3 reports of RAM socket failure in /tpg/ this year.

Did the 1vyrain thing on my x230t. I guess it erased my efi entries because I could only get to bios, nothing would boot even when selected. Even weirder, I could no longer boot tinycore or arch Linux from usb. I could get to the live usb selection screen, but booting tinycore would stall at loading kernel, and arch Linux would stall at the same point.

Oddly enough I was still able to boot the 1vyrain usb, which gives you a shell with networking and wget, so I downloaded Linux mint, flashed another usb, and it booted fine. From there I downloaded the arch Linux iso, which booted fine, then arch-chroot into my old system, and redid grub. Then everything worked. I have no fucking clue what happened.

But now I have a WiFi 6 card in my x230 and it’s awesome so whatever I guess. Took me a couple hours however…

Do the x2x0T series use wacom compatible screens?

Any recommendations for a laptop for a $200-$300 budget? I'm thinking of using that as a linux machine.

>>107289354
Yes

>>107290856
Semi-classic thickpad: P52
Thin and light: T14 G1-G2 AMD or G2 Intel
These are about in the same ballpark for CPU performance but differ in modularity, battery life and GPU

Is it normal for a battery with only 16 cycles have 96% capacity? On Windows it claimed to be at 99%, but I replaced it with Fedora and had been using it for a week, now it claims to be at 96% (50,4 out of 52,5wh). Could this be a calibration issue or is this batt cooked?

>>107293116
Seems normal. My year-old T14G1 battery jumped from 100% to 97% around 10 cycles, then slowly went down to 92% over the next 70.

>>107293346
Oh ok. Is yours the Intel model? I just got a "used" but still new in box Intel T14 G3. Despite how much I've seen people conplaining about its battery life over AMD models, I've been getting about 9hr of light usage (5w to 6w power draw), so It think that is kinda decent. I was just afraid the battery might be a dud from being unused for so long.

>>107289354
The x230t is a Wacom screen, it’s pressure sensitive using the included pen, but the screen does not support battery Wacom pens

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thoughts on p16s gen 3?

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I have a T530 that I've had for about 5-6 years now still runs perfectly. Upgraded 16g ram and 1tb ssd.

I want a 14 or 15" 1080 screen
Fasted USB drive available on older used models
Backlit keys and a decent cpu. Mostly for portable daily driver stuff. May run a DAW like reaper and some amp plug ins.

I am ok with upgrading ssd and ram. Would like a replaceable battery if possible.

Is a T14 my best bet? I don't know much about cpu's, which ones should I look for?

Like to keep it 350-400$ or less.

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>my stinkpad's screen started pink flickering way too often
>it actually began as some regular flickering once in a while that i did not pay enough attention to, and now it decided to suddenly get worse
it's over
drivers are updated, so it is certainly imminent hardware failure (heard keeping the charger plugged in all the time can cause this eventually, don't know if bullshit but it did hit too close to home)
it's going to be at least another year until i manage to save enough money to build a midrange pc, but i guess this girl is going to die on me before that and i'm going to have to spend some of those savings for repair

It’s too new for 3rd worlders to comment on. If you’re looking at it on the official Lenovo store because you’re hoping to snag it while it’s a doorbuster (which is basically clearance, but it’s still a good laptop), then what you’re looking for isn’t tips on whether it’s good or not, since of course it’s good, it’s literally last gen. You only need to know how to get the best discounts from Lenovo retail.
Check the post I made here to find it as cheap as possible >>107285650
Once you get it at the maximum discount, compare it to the "latest" models thats currently in trend in these boards, check eBay prices, and then decide if the price of the new P16s Gen 3 is worth the premium over older models. This includes hardware specs and perceived quality. Additionally, one thing many people overlook is the ports: the P16s Gen 3 and Gen 4 both have 2x Thunderbolt 4 ports, which can significantly change the value equation, depending on your needs.
Read the PSREF for all models online and decide for yourself. You can also assess build quality if you spend time learning how to read PSREFs properly, rather than relying on anecdotes.

find what you need and you will find what thinkpad fits you

this >>107295715 is in response to >>107294911

>>107295715
While of course you're right, and this is solid advice, asking drive-by "wut laptop iz gud?" posters to do even a modicum of research is anathema.

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bought a t14 gen5 with a good deal for black friday, what am I in for?
also how safe are those 10 bucks windows 11 keys on ebay

>>107282276
Honestly it's because you get 3 years of warranty and you can buy a macbook with 1 year of warranty.
The thinkpad T14 costs as much as a macbook air, but in Poland it costs as much as a macbook pro.

>>107296756
correct me if i'm wrong, but don't most thinkpads have a windows key embedded into the bios? if that's the case, then you should be able to install 11 right away, or possibly have to install 10 and then upgrade to 11.

at least with my x260 and thinkcentre tiny desktop pc, they both automatically activated windows while I was installing it from a usb disk, just whatever windows 10 download was on the microsoft site.
but again, I could be wrong and it may be only for specific models, and I just got lucky owning two that have the embedded key.

Latitude 7410
i7-10810U
16gb RAM
256gb SSD
"good" battery health
1920×1080 resolution
All for $170 shipped
Do I do it? Am a poorfag for the record so I doubt I'll find something I can afford at the refurbished outlet even with Black Friday coming. But I need a laptop bad.

I still love my T420.

>>107298298
It will be a great laptop. You can pick up a knockoff ebay battery for $30ish dollars, they work well if your battery health is too low, just takes removing a few small screws.
IMO more anons need to take the Latitude pill. There are more of them out there surplus from wage slaves so parts are more common. Autists have been bidding up clapped out thinkpads for so long a lot of these surplus sellers think they have struck gold.

>>107298298
looks pretty good deal for me
I got i5-8365U latitude 7300 with touchscreen for 160 bucks last year

>>107298527
>>107298546
Yeah that's what I was thinking boys, the chipset seemed beefy enough to overcome being 5 years old, and I'm not going to be doing anything crazy with it.
The
>soldered RAM
meme kind of scares me but through actual research it seems to be almost completely overblown. Yeah, I prefer replaceable parts too, but.

>>107298655
>soldered RAM
if you can find 5410 around the same price, then grab the 5410 one.
I forgot my latitude is the last uncucked modular generation

>>107298831
If the 5410 is the same generation as 7410, just lower end, would it not also have soldered on RAM? How appreciable is the build quality difference between the 7k and 5k series?

>>107299073
5000 series are bulkier and heavier, the equivalent of regular T and X series of thinkpad
7000 series are the ultrabook option, just like T14s.
My 5480 was built like a tank compared to other laptops of its generation while my 7300 is flimsier with worse bottom cover compared to the X series, still love this little modular guy.

7300 and 7400 are the last 7000 series with crazy modularity, including replaceable charging port and power button. 5310 is the last 13 inch series with replaceable ram. But all 14 inch 54xx series has 2 sodimm slots.

>>107299277
also don't bother with 3k series, they're the E serIes of Latitude

>>107299277
I see, I tend to prefer ultrabooks these days but the idea of not having much system control on them sucks. My previous laptop was an ultrabook but the mobo died (which I realize would kill any laptop) so I'm wary of not being able to replace things easily. The soldered RAM meme is overblown though, I feel.

>>107299423
well you do you. even with soldered ram, believe 7410 is still a solid machine.

>>107299481
*I believe

>>107294000
I have the AMD, and in G1 AMD has the worse battery life. Doesn't go under 8 W unless it's just sitting there with nothing open.

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>>107281274
Is $100 for a 1TB SSD worth it? I bought a refurbished T480, but it only had 250 GB of storage

>>107297071
I have already a usb win11 key for another pc so that's not a problem, however the version I bought did specifically say without OS so I guess maybe it's just not installed from the bios?

>>107301334
You can go to a quiet corner of a coffee shop and use the massgrave HWID script. Hasn't failed me yet and works for LTSC too in case you want less bloat.

>>107281274
Any rumors/news yet regarding a 35th anniversary Thinkpad? Still rocking a TP25 because the 7 row layout is just sane and logical, and am curious if they'll do something similar again. It still runs fine for my usecase so I'm not worried about upgrading just yet, but I'd like to run dual 4k monitors and even a single one gets it decently hot.

>>107304177
I wish. I can see the otherwise normal X1C or P1 with a token blue enter key already.

The 25 keyboard can sort of be retrofitted into newer models. There was a listing on Taobao some time ago for a T14 G2 mangled to fit one. Needs nontrivial changes to the palmrest, especially on the right side where making space for the extra row completely eats the sliver of magnesium frame between keyboard and smart card slot so it has to be reinforced somehow.

>>107304596
>T14 G2 mangled to fit one
Interesting. I knew about people modding it onto the T480, never realized that some were dedicated enough to hack it into something that new. I'd be fine with chiclet keys if it was just arranged like the 7 rows, I use a Tex keyboard so it's nice to have the same layout/muscle memory whether I'm using it docked or on the go.

If whatever the 35th ends up being isn't something that interests me I'll probably jump ship to one of the frankenpad projects. The X210 Ai thing looks neat, and even the T700 should be ok.

>>107305013
>T700
Is this active again? Last I heard, the guy making it went missing

>>107310034
>Is this active again?
No. When I made my post I didn't realize the T700 guy was no longer around, I thought he was since his site is still up. Hope he's okay.

Funnily enough the X210Ai guy has a T700 and a spare fan for sale, possibly his old one. More niche is that he also sells upgraded motherboards for the X61 and the 1400x1050 screen, since that was always a super niche mod that was technically possible but rarely done even in the X61's heyday. Might get that as a project since mine has a cracked screen..

Ended up buying the X210 since he's almost sold out and his blog/reddit posts point to a second run being unlikely. Maybe I'm pessimistic but I do doubt Lenovo will do something neat with a 35th anniversary model, especially since historically even during IBM's time anniversary models were generally low effort shinier/more exclusive versions of their current lineup. And Lenovo sure as hell won't have a 3:2 aspect ratio screen on it.

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>>107310365
>Lenovo sure as hell won't have a 3:2 aspect ratio screen on it
3:2 display is way more likely than a classic 7-row keyboard.
Something like X1 Titanium with a modern CPU sounds exactly like the kind of low effort exclusivity lenovo would do.

>>107304177
>and am curious if they'll do something similar again
Thinkpad 25 was David Hill's last project right before his retirement at the age of 60. I doubt anyone, not even the IBM employees which are still around care about the 7 row keyboards.

>>107304177
soldered camm2 ram
soldered ssd
zero-lattice keyboard

>>107283055
Yes, they suck. I first came here when they were actually and unironically good. Now they are trash and yet people still shill this crap for some reason.

How dumb are brand suckers? Like really? What is the fucking problem with going out AND NOT being a fucking fanboy?

Héy, you, fanboy. YOU are the problem. Don't eat the shit that they throw at you, because THAT is the ONLY reason for companies to fix their shit.

Don't be a stupid fanboy.

>>107311760
>Héy, you, fanboy. YOU are the problem. Don't eat the shit that they throw at you, because THAT is the ONLY reason for companies to fix their shit.
Did you forget where you are? This is a general for smelly Jeets buying $200 used laptops. Jeets love shit. Lenovo will never change because they get most of their Thinkpad revenue from contracts with businesses.

>>107311822
Yes, they do. But not for mine anymore. I bought several T14 new years ago. They are crap and they should be ashamed of themselves.

Still, the wankers in this thread who still get off that brand are worse even. You get absolutely nothing by discussing these laptops.
Yes, buying them cheap used may make sense. But discussing them? As if they were really better AND worth a debate? Come on. Don't be stupid. Don't be a fanboy. It's that simple.
>>107311154
The modern keyboards are simply shitty and I have no respect for anybody who is still buying their crap. And I am not talking about the layout. I am talking about the fact that they ARE NOT spill proof anymore. Something they were for fucking 20 years. I am talking about the fact that the keys feel like shit. I am talking about the fact that the infamous sync issue (which most often seems to be a thing for "4" cluster) is still a thing how many years after they have been told about it? And the trackpoint/trackpad buttons being pieces of flimsy shit which so so much that they are not debounced correctly.

>>107311897
Yeah man, jokes aside really the only 15 inch laptop with a full sized keyboard I'd buy would be a Framework, but they don't have a trackpad with physical buttons, and HP doesn't sell an Elitebook with a full keyboard, and honestly they keyboards are pretty shit on those. Really the only advantage to those is that they have 2 dimm slots and they held out on a barrel charger a bit longer before using USB-C. Pretty much everything is a compromise to some extent in the modern laptop market.

>>107311958
Framework still has a trackpoint keyboard on their backburner for development. When they finally implement that I'll jump ship to them; if all keyboards are shit and most models across the brands are the same nowadays I'm going to stick with whatever has the most features I personally use, and the chinks at Lenovo are the only ones who still have a clitmouse. Probably just for the aesthetic at this point, but they still have it.

Or maybe one of the esoteric Japan-only laptops, like the Fujitsus or Panasonics that still pack a disc drive. God bless the nips, them supporting legacy business protocols like ancient projectors, CDs, and fax have helped insulate their laptops against the same enshittification you see plague laptops in the west.

>>107312175
I haven't laid a hand on them since they lost the trackpoint. About five years ago they had a more solid case but a thinner, less comfy keyboard than ThinkPads.

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>>107282854
>this is a general for linux spergs, students, and sysadmins
I am all three. Debian 11 on my T540p, Debian 12 on my Desktop, currently migrating the servers at work to Debian 13.
>Doing the most with marginal hardware that's at least somewhat customizable and serviceable.
I'm aware, I've been coming here since 2020. I just think the P16 G3 looks so good, we're back to angular shapes after almost a decade of ugly dildo shaped devices.
>>107283649
>if you really want to buy less expensive wait for a new gen to come out and buy the former one they are often discounted
I'm counting the days
>I once bought a brand new T15 GEN2 for 800€ directly from lenovo (it was priced 1600€ here when it came out).
KINO snipe
>>107285650
>you need to use either student/nurse discount or whatever is applicable for you, then you will need to wait for doorbuster or black friday sales as they are the largest discounts imo
I guess, but even so they're unaffordable, pic rel: https://www.campuspoint.de/mobile/notebooks/lenovocampus/campus-thinkpads/p-serie/thinkpad-p16-fuer-studenten/where/notebook_mobiltechnologie/intel%C2%AE-core%E2%84%A2-ultra-prozessor-series-2-(intel%C2%AE-arrow-lake)/order/view_count/dir/desc/limit/9/p/2.html
These are the campus edition models that are cheaper and even have some massive discounts on top. That's still 4 to 6 months of rent.
The doorbuster models (P16 Gen2) haven't budged much either.
>>107296874
>Honestly it's because you get 3 years of warranty and you can buy a macbook with 1 year of warranty.
I'd even put 5 years on it if I had the money lmao.
>The thinkpad T14 costs as much as a macbook air, but in Poland it costs as much as a macbook pro.
RIP bro

>>107294911
>>107295942
There's not a single YouTube video by the large channels, only some >literal who who talk about their lifestyle. I assume everyone interested has already memorized them by heart like I did.

I wish Coreboot and Libreboot never existed.
Fuck them. It makes me obsessed.

>>107281682
this
posted from my gnubooted x200 running gentoo gnu/linux-libre

slightly off topic but do any of you know how to find previous versions of the bios for lenovo stuff? I can't find any but the current version on their website. I upgraded to it over the weekend but my loq's been sluggish and stutterish since and the right shift key stops working occasionally

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>>107295615
>thinking that maybe i should get a nicer screen because why not
>first option is what i have, found some for sale
>second and third option looking really good, very considerable quality upgrade without breaking the bank
>but for some reason they do not exist for sale in my shithole, not a single one for sale
>fourth option which is basically the 120hz version of my low tier screen is the only one i found
just fuck my shit up, this is going to be a cursed week to me, i need to decide and this constant pink flickering is killing my eyes

>>107311958
>>107312158
At this point, with all these crappy hardware around, I am SO close to actually building my own meme portable laptop in a pizza box. Like SOO fucking close.
Seriously, fuck all that crap all around.

Even the trackpoint in thinkpads suck arse. The one in my shinobi? Freaking perfect. The one in the T14, the x1 nano or the the X280? God, these are awful in comparison.

>>107312775
>>107281682
Lies. Or do you consider this hellhole modern web?

>>107313074
Believe it or not, if you have a good adblocking solution, you can use the """modern""" web on just about anything.

I can get a refurbished T14 G2 for 400 euros. Is it a good price?

>>107313827
post temps. post video with temps visible in video.

>>107313843
Not those anons, but desu I don't see what they have to prove to you. It's a fact that a high end Core 2 is still perfectly capable CPU in 2025.

>>107313843
Different anon, but I think the laggiest part about the modern web is all the video elements. Was running an X61 with a Core 2 Duo T9300 up until 2020 and it would only really chug on youtube. It's not heavy work to process the text and images hosted by most websites once you filter all the ads out.

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>>107312158
Honestly same. The only reason I never got one of those meme Panasonic laptops is the tiny space bar. I have an old Japanese ALPs keyboard from the 90's and I hate the small space bar. If Framework gets around to it, I'm right there with you.
>>107313059
Hell yeah brother

>>107313936
>"my dick is gigantic"
>pics or didn't happen
>"y would I want to prove anything?"

>>107314005
>2020
Anon, how may I prepare the news for you, but...

It's almost fucking 2026. 2020 firefox at that point was version 70+. We are not at well over 140. Go figure and tell me how 5 years ago a 10 years CPU was still kicking it today.

Look, I do not endorse that shit. I hate the fact that programmers are so fucking lazy and that everything takes such a performance penalty. Especially for tasks that have not changed at all. But that does not mean shit once you update your software.

>>107314086
With all of them parts being so small these days, like portable USB C screens and ready to use ARM SoC, I guess one could relatively easy create a portable computer that does not look like arse.

>>107314203
Firefox is a heck of a lot more efficient now than it was then. If anything, it should be smoother.

>>107314238
You could probably 3D print a case fairly easily. Maybe even rob a keyboard from an old ewaste netbook.

>>107314282
post temps then. post a video. prove your inane claim that a freaking core 2 duo laptop from 15 years ago still does "modern" web. Come on. You can do it. You are free to use your phone to record the stream if the CPU can't handle taking a recording at the same time...

>>107314304
I do not care about thickness. So I'd either put my 8855 or the shinobi in it. Like, why not go all the way?

>>107314322
Again, NTA (so please stop saying my claim), but I think a lot of people here are confused about what do you mean by modern web? And why do you care so much about this? If anons can use their laptops to meet their needs, why does it bother you that a 15 year old CPU can handle it? The web hasn't drastically changed much between 2020 and 2025, and in some cases it's even better (for example X/Twitter is much better since Elon optimized the code).

>>107281274
what is the configuration of a 4-drive p53?

I have a T480s but it's a model with the nvidia gpu, looking at libreboot it says that it's not supported. What are the odds it will get supported sometime in the future?

>>107314537
Isn't it funny, that the people who lie to themselves (e.g. talking crap about ancient laptops being able to run "modern" anything) are kinda in the same thread who lie to themselves how great modern thinkpads are? Who are the same people who fall for the lies that lenovo sells them?

I do not care about your lies. You can do whatever you want. If you feel like this is the truth, then maybe it is. For you.

But that does not make it reality. So to answer your question...
>what do you mean by modern web?
I was not the one who brought that crap up.
It was >>107313827 and >>107281682
>And why do you care so much about this?
Because dumb people might believe this crap. And as a responsible human being it is my duty to warn dumb people and educate them. Thank me later.

>>107314804
I think the biggest thing you're failing to realize here is that different people have different needs. I would say it's reasonable to assert that most of the "modern" web is easily accessible from a 64-bit Core 2. This isn't lying, nor do I believe less informed people would assume that a 15 year old Core 2 is going to be able to literally take anything you throw at it. Unless you're doing video editing, gayming, or driving a 4k disiplay, most regular everyday tasks should be perfectly fine. Again, this goes back to expectations, and everyone's expectations are going to be different, same as needs. My advice, stop being a dick, and let people enjoy their classic ThinkPads while realizing there's more nuance than a simple binary outcome of it's either completely impossible or completely possible.

>>107314886
>I think the biggest thing you're failing to realize here is that different people have different needs.
No, I realize that these neets have some needs. But certainly they are NOT modern web if all they can come up with is fucking claim. If you make a claim, you prove it. Or *you* are
>a dick
Damn, would you believe me without a proof if I told you in fucking 2005 that I was still browsing /b/ with my Macintosh LC? Are you one of those? Really?

>>107313059
>Even the trackpoint in thinkpads suck arse.
I used to think this but I'm convinced now that the new ones just take getting used to. After using classic 6 mm and 2016-2021 era 4 mm versions daily for a year, both feel comfortable and switching between them is barely an annoyance. Only have trouble using ones where the chassis is too weak to keep the keyboard from bending, like some L models.

>>107314630
Three drives as in the spec and a fourth in the WWAN slot, NVMe, limited to one lane

>>107315088
It seems everything I said just completely went over your head. I'm sure as soon as one of the anons posts a screenshot you're going to claim it isn't enough proof and then just keep moving the goalpost. Either way, real world benchmarks show that a high end Core 2 found in the T400 is on par with a high end first gen i7 found in the T410 (https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/1043vs850/Intel-Core2-Quad-Q9100-vs-Intel-i7-640M). I think this is what it boils down to is, OP's claim that the xx10(s) "won't choke on the modern web" is a misguided way to divide things and more open to interpretation. A better delineation would be to say: 64-bit Core 2 for most everyday tasks, and then Skylake (6th gen) or higher for more demanding tasks. At least two levels give a bit more nuance than a hard single break.

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>>107281274
What should I do with my t420?
I'm learning how to use mint to prepare for my Windows exodus on my powerful machine. currently stuck using this as a work machine, which it was planned of being anyways.

I dropped 16gb of ram and a new SSD into it, which made it 1000x more responsive over stock.
its the version without the videocard, and I have a bluetooth dongle in the back to link with my earbuds.

managed to play GTA Vice City with my PS1 controller yesterday through proton with zero issues. Very happy about that.

lol chapta GTA8d

>>107316046
>t420
>1366x768
straight into the trash

>>107316079
ever hear of an external monitor, retard?

>>107316656
because that makes so much sense with a freaking laptop from almost 15 years ago.

>>107316777
it has displayport and can run a 1080p monitor, what else do you want?

>>107316851
being able to watch a yt video without out the fans going full blast

>>107316079
>>107316046
Huh, looks like you can drop a 1600x900 screen into it fairly easily, if you wanted https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/T420_and_T430_HD%2B_Screen_Upgrade
Alternatively, for better screens you can do this more involved mod https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Replacing_T430_screen_with_a_better_one

I'd personally do the 1600x900 screen because I hate how 1366x768 feels like a shitty stretched 1024x720, but it all depends on what you want to do with it before you get your more powerful machine up to snuff.

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After ignoring /g/'s advice for a decade, I finally bought a P14s and it's great. Shame on me for taking this long.

>>107312775
hi sui

>>107315688
I wanted to put two levels there (light use: x61, Youtube/Gmail: xx10) but had to axe this and a lot of other details to fit within 2000 chars

T15 (gen 1) NVME drive keeps disconnecting itself - seems correlate with load/heat but not always. Adopted the machine about 6 months ago, problem started 5 months ago, has only gotten worse despite very aggressive cooling settings. Have heard issues of bad soldering on other Lenovo tops of this era but nothing specific to T15 or this drive. Is it the drive? Is it the MB? Fan? does God hate me? Don't want to bother ordering a drive replacement unless I am sure that is the culprit.

>>107319623
You should *really* into the problem before doing something. I don't know what's up with your specific problem, but going by all the terror that I've had with them, I'd say chances are lenovo dun goofd and your machine is wrecked.

>>107283206
>yet
are there any ongoing efforts?

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>>107281274
I guess I'll just KMS.

I really like classic ThinkPad keyboards

>>107315460
weird, in my experience it didn't work at all (rtx 3000, so 4xm2

>>107316046
it's always nice to have a spare computer ready for anything that pops up.
keep it is a backup, try other distros or find dedicated use for it... you may even need to install windows for something unexpected.
I personally think 2 is insufficient - get more thinkpads.

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Got a X250 from 2015, bought it refurbished in 2018, have occasionally used it on vacation or when away sometimes, recently came back to it after so inactivity. I run Ubuntu on it.
I noticed that no matter how charged the battery is, the internal one is never charged. Can I make a check somehow to see if it is truly dead or maybe just loose or something? I think I already excahnged this once before.
Dont have any tools with me here in the hotle, will be back on Friday evening.

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Ok new keyboard is in. Kids can sit and watch me struggle to replace it as punishment.
They really didn't make the 40 series easy to replace the board. Seems like everyone breaks a key or 2 in disassembly.

>>107315460
Well, my T14 one is arse and does not work for shit. It's a KNOWN hardware bug that they have not fixed, despite them claiming to do so. You do not consider a 1k5 machine (5 years ago, sigh), to be a low end version where some chassis flex is expected. But even THAT is the case.

That being said, NO lenovo/ibm trackpoint compares to the one in my tex shinobi.