TKL/full-size editionPrevious: >>107297628 #>Keyboard recommendation template:https://pastebin.com/n220xk9V>Find vendorshttps://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list // Up-to-date list of reputable vendors with brief descriptionshttps://keycaplendar.firebaseapp.com // Tracker for current and upcoming keycap group buys>This keyboard stuff is so expensive!https://aliexpress.com (or Taobao if you know how)>Learn about MX-type switches ("mechanical keyboard switches")https://rentry.org/mkg_switches // Introductory guidehttps://www.theremingoat.com // Switch reviewshttps://www.switchesdb.com // Compare force curves>Split and non-standard layout resourceshttps://compare.splitkb.comhttps://keyboard-design.com>What does ______ do to a keyboard's sound?https://blacksimon.tv/science (Google sheet)>Practice typinghttps://monkeytype.comhttps://www.keybr.comhttps://thetypingcat.comhttps://play.typeracer.com>How Cherry switches do backlighting, and why it's not idealhttps://rentry.org/mkg_backlight
>>107332515Budget: 200 eur and below (ignoring shipping)Location: IrelandPreferred switch type: linear or tactile, no preference beyond thatLayout: ISO UK QWERTYForm factor: 100% and it doesn't need to be compressedBacklight: so long as each key is "lit" so I can type in low light environments, I don't really care. wanted to buy a V6, but they're only in ES or DE layouts from Keychron, the rest are sold out in EuropeRip Gentildonna
>>107329676yeah right, INA823 or similar, they are integrated instrumentation amplifiers, they fit the job. not sure how to use them with the MUX, as you want as few as possible.what do you want to achieve tho, do you want lowest possible power? or don't care about power and how many extra parts, you just want to use TMR sensors and that's that? what is your goal?
>>107332515>full-sizebet
>>107332915wish i could find a gmk set or mtnu or something modern and nice that had f keys up to f24 and maybe 8 or so macro buttons on row 0. i want to make a board with a 32 key function row
>>107332971but wait, there's MORE! :^)
>Budget: <$120>Location (continent at least): East coast USA. I have a MicroCenter nearby.>Preferred switch type: something that's not too loud and/or clicky>Layout: ANSI US QWERTY >Form factor: 65%, 75%, or TKL>Backlight: not a priority but a nice to have>Previous/current keyboards: Logitech K120Thought about getting a Keychron. Went to MicroCenter to try the keycaps but they were to smooth - can't imagine anyone using them, they are too slippery. Want something more matte, textured. Even K120's keycaps are more ergonomic and it's a $7 kb. inb4: You can change the keycaps. Ok.Other than that, Keychron seems great. Maybe even a cheap K series would be fine.
Brutal V2 sale today at Cannonkeys, I'm gonna shill it one last time. The 65% last I checked had many colors still available, the 96% nearly sold out. When I checked this morning they only had lavender and navy
>>107334059Royal Kludge RK84 / RK84 Proif their entire stock wasn't gone I'd recc a Keychron K8
>>107332996s-surely this is the limit of human capability right...?//what the fuck is the point of that keyboard actually
>>107332515I fell for the keychron meme, and here I am 4 months later waking up with my board not working as intended.Keychron Keychron V6 Max on linux, I've plugged it into every usb port I could, my older GMMK1 is working flawlessly still... but the keychron even after doing the fn+j+z (or whatever combination to reset it) it's still not working. It lights up, but what happens is if I press any key there's a green blinking light under the 4 instead of the input being sent. I am always 100% of the time wired fwiw.Was working perfectly fine last night. What's up with this thing? Anyone experience this before?
>>107334790>s-surely this is the limit of human capability right...?yeah, probably>//what the fuck is the point of that keyboard actuallychinese
>>107335279wheres the spacebar... what the fuck? who designed this
>>107335186Have you tried flashing new QMK firmware just to be sure?
>>107335279I don't understand people who sQy out over stuff like this, to me this is boring, a visual gag that isn't actually particularly funny.
>>107335864I did a bit ago, full factory reset, flashed firmware, forced update to newest firmware, and now it doesn't even blink. Idunno, never buying keychron again that's for sure. At least I can gut it for switches and caps.
>>107335910 never seen it beforewoe to you, who mocks a child for their joy and wonder of the world
>>107335692I think it's an additional piece, not a main keyboard. There seems to be another on the right, and cables are going in all directions. Think Tom Scott's emoji keyboard
talk me out of it.
>>107336291Have you used a split before? If not I thing 34 keys might be hard to get used to, I would at least get a 3x6.
>>107332971
what are the normal keycaps called? not the flat ones that macbooks use but the taller ones
>>107336348there is no such thing as "normal" in keycaps
Pretty sure I'm going to be buying a Keychron K1 Max soon. How does /mkg/ feel about it?Just trying to decide between red and brown switches. Been using red for the past decade and I do like them but I don't game on PC any more and feel like trying something new so I ordered a switch tester and will see which I prefer.
alright, any good 100% boards? my absolute limit on my budget is 300. I'd also be willing to have a standalone numpad but I need function keys. I'd like to buy something that isn't from China, but that seems almost entirely impossible with mechanical keyboards for some reason.
>>107336674It's 96% rather than 100 but you missed out by mere hours lol:https://cannonkeys.com/products/brutal-v2-1800-keyboard(Unless you like purple)
>>107336674https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/topre-realforce-r3s-wiredMade in Japan
No.... even the wheatstone bridge gives me phantom presses...... how in God's Green Earth do people get this to work in a keyboard
Ordered some cheap keycaps from aliexpress. Hopefully they're better than the gay stock ones on my keychron board.
>>107337303Which ones did you order? Keychron's caps are actually pretty OK so there's a real chance you're getting a downgrade
>>107337400https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806714244805.htmlI don't mind the feel of the stock ones but I HATE the shine-through letters.
>>107337623>shine-throughOh, you meant the Keychrons with the shitty keycaps. Probably better then
>>107337105Starting to see the beauty of Mechanical X-point yet?
how is fucking krytox 205g0 $10 for 10g
nth for black on black
>>107337749Krytox is an expensive industrial grease, and way overkill for use in keyboards. Don't know what else to tell you anon.
>>10733774910g goes a long way.
>>107337777>overkillmore like marked up 20x for keyboard goys
>>107337940Normally a business would buy a whole tub, not just a couple of mL. So no shit the higher volume amount costs less per mL.
>>107337985it still costs $0.001
My quest for budget creamy out of the box is almost over.tested 6 so far, 2 more to go. Listening to youtube tests is cool but nothing beats RL sound.Im glad I tried 75 because i see now TKL is the bare minimum for me. Knob is also cool to have.
Anyone knows where to get Gerber files for a LEDless Corne V3 PCB?
>>107338057>source: it came to me in a dream
>>107338057Ok but you also think your keyboard cost $5 to make and your keycaps cost $2 to make and so on
thoughts? i have keychron reds and theyre too heavy for mehttps://www.rtings.com/keyboard-switch/reviews/kailh/super-speed-silver
>>107337721kinda of. If anything, it's making me see how awesome Hall Effect is while how much of a meme TMR is. MX tho, it is beautiful that you can make this work without even needing a microcontroller, and that the pcb design is so simple a 12 year old can make it. TMR feels like you are emulating a keyboard through firmware, while HE and MX are actual engineering.
>tfw handing UPS a $74 check like a cuck to pay DAP for a custom keyboard PCB that cost $5 to make in China because of some tariff black magic, customs fee completely raping me
>>107338872Just go to milktooth and buy any meme switch that has 50g switches or lighter. HMX are popular.
>>107330879oh my god man its beautiful, how do you make these things so fast, sorry I didn't see this sooner the thread saged. Give me some time to wrap my head around your design, but trust me its pinned to my wall with the description as a sort of ideal to shoot for. I'm beginning the first phases of a basic TMUX + 3 tmr2083s keyboard, this will have a teensy 4.1 connected to two TMUXs that each have 3 TMR2083s connected to them. They don't have an op-amp so the resolution is awful, only like 40 steps, but it will be a good way to test until I have the amp figured out. TMUX is actually insanely small, its not really a problem for me since I have a 10x camera, but still lol, look how tiny those pins are, my 34 awg magnetic wire is barely small enough
>>107341292yikes, here is a better picture of the keyboard parts, tmux is ludicrously small.
I like my mechanical keyboards very much.
>>107341685you're nuts
>>107341685Neat, but also why mix low profile & regular size switches?
I went to the dark side and ordered a pair of Logitech MX Mechanical Minis for Black Friday. Going to try both and return one.Keychron lost a sale by not implementing Bluetooth Low Energy. There's no way I'm charging my keyboard twice a month if I can instead use it for 6 months on end.
>>107341339Anon that is impossible to hand solder.
>>107341763No U.>>107341856My use case is , I can't touch type well so enter and back space being raised helps me find without looking . the F keys I couldn't find any easily available low profile f keys without function legends like brightness, media keys etc which I dislike. TaiHao THT might have some . Strangely comfy now that I got used to the different heights thoughbeit..
>>107341880Nah, if you actually need battery and good wireless, logitech is in a league of its own.
>>107341920you're dangerously insane
>>107341880Nice schiit stack.
>corne v4 has the microcontroller on the boardwhat the fuck is this shit why do they keep doing it? i think the lily58 pro v2 also does this
>>107342314Nothing wrong with the controller being on the board. A separate pro-micro being soldered on isn't done because it's necessarily the best solution.
>>107341913>AnOn ThAt iS ImPosSibLe tO hAnD sOlDer
>>107342099not really :p
>>107336007did you fully disable the RGB? tried building QMK and flashing it? not from their online interface.
>>107337105listen anon, that Wheatstone bridge is not designed to be fed into ADC directly. you need to at least buffer it, if not amplify it.you shouldn't even connect anything to it, that's not the point at this moment. the only thing you should have done is measure with DMM between V+/V- when switch is depressed and fully pressed, that's it. take those two data points.ideally, power the sensor with 5V, not 3.3. measure with switch in rest position between GND and V+ (one half of the bridge), between GND and V-, and between V+ and V-. takes these three data points for switch unpressed and fully pressed.based on the obtained data you design the PCB. connecting the micro to the TMR core makes no sense.and yeah, HE is simpler to use, as they are fully integrated, they have the amplifier on die, but they are not as versatile in implementation
>>107337623>shine-throughthose are ABS and you got PBT. update on how you like them
>>107341292here's using INA integrated instrumentation amplifiers. I skipped the analog switches, those were for swapping polarity of the magnet in case you need it. I think that complicates things too much.so for just the TMR core you'd need the amplifier and a way to scan the matrix. since you'd need one amplifier for each ADC you're better off scanning one column at a time, fast.are the teensy ADC pins 5V tolerant? also RG resistor is the gain resistor, for INA amplifier. no resistor = buffer (gain of 1). 100K (for INA823 or smth) measn gain of 2, and going lower increases the gain. you can adjust that resistor value based on your initial readings with just the sensor.for example, if you measure 100mV between V+/V- when fully pressed, and you need 3V into ADC, then you need 30x amplification factor. so RG becomes ... something dunno. 3K or sum shit. look into teh datasheet for whatever you end up using
>>107343000yes I know, I'm working on getting an amp setup in the meantime. This is what a quick press looks like. I know this is TRASH compared to what it can look like. I am listening to you and reading up on op-amps and the science behind them. Its going to take me a few days to catch up to all the stuff youve been saying. this is more of just a proof of concept. The bridge DOES work even if very poorly. I have renewed hope in this project and will be studying amps and inus
>>107341339you could use that tmux1308 but you'd need two of them, one for one half of the bridge, one for the other half of the bridge. so you can switch the full bridge into the INA amplifier. I'll think about it, ideally there's two channel switches, do you use one for four TMR sensors. like 4:1 two channel switches. if going this route you'd need 4 chips for a whole row.just measure what I told you, first of all. considering picrel, get GND/X1 and GND/X2 and X1/X2 without the switch installed, should be 2.5V for both GND/X1 and X2, and should be 0V between X1/X2.then install the switch and repeat these three measurements.then press the switch fully and repeat these three measurements
>>107341880based Schiit enjoyer
>>107341913it's not only easy to solder, I can also desolder that tssop16 package, with the soldering iron
>>107343091the bridge can only work poorly. if that's what you're getting from one half of the bridge, that's fucking amazing!listen, that core isn't designed to output 3V on full press lmao. ALL such sensors are amplified to fit the ADC, you ideally want as much signal out of it before amplification, but I'd be amazed if getting 100mV out of it.there's some strain gauges (still in wheatstone bridge) that barely move 1-2mV, and that signal is amplified as fuck into ADCs. and still works fine.in this case, the TMR core should have low noise, and 30x-100x amplification should be nothingso, explain that picrel, each half of the bridge into one teensy ADC input? do you measure 2.5V on each with no switch installed?
>>107341920Having bigger or higher keys sounds like a good idea. One thing about most ortho splits that I find suboptimal is that they often only use 1u keys. It's easier to build, but bigger keys are simply easier to hit, so the outer columns should use bigger keys. Just use 1.75u so you don't need stabilizers.That being said, practicing touch typing is worth it imo. I was still typing with 6 fingers in August but I made good progress with 10 fingers since then, keybr helped the most.
>>107343048This looks like a big microphone array. Is TMR listening to us through the vibration of our key caps?
Wireless keyboard for desktop is stupidest shit every. Used mine for 2 years, only bother to go wireless a few week at first but the recharging with USB cable is too bothersome. Now the battery is swollen and I have to RMA. Got partial refund since they nolonger sell that model.For mouse it still somewhat make sense since you have to move it around the high end models normally come with receiver with USB cable plug so you can just easily unplug it to recharge.
>>107344625Most of the good mechanical ones these days you can just remove the battery and it still works as a wired keyboard.
How do you design a keyboard so beautiful as the Keychron Q6 HE but at the same time fail to deliver on n-key rollover?
Tired of shitty rubberdome keyboards in the officeBudget: 100€Location: AustriaPreferred switch type: Something fairly quiet, but tactile would be nice. Using GX Blue at home.>Layout: ISO-DE QWERTZ>Form factor: 100%>Backlight: some backlight would be great, but can do without>Previous/current keyboards: Logitech G513 GX Blue, some 12 year old CoolerMaster with MX Blue
>>107345529>ISO>100%>BacklightEvery time. See >>107332566 >>107336674
>>107345477my HE has it. are you sure yours doesn't? their QMK config says it's enabled
>>107341292bro the INA82x instrumentation amplifiers are expensive as fuck lol I think I'll use opamps instead
>>107345562You know what you're right. I had tried making my own keyboard tester and my program failed. But using the official one included with their webapp it works just fine.This is what I get for trusting myself.
>Looking for a wireless Keyboard for my dad>NEEDS to be ISO-IT>and 98%>with backlight and with a fixed colour option>and with nicely coloured keycaps>impossible to find an ISO-IT keyboard (especially one that meets his requirements) and it's just as impossible to find IT specific keycapsI'm going insane. I might just buy a Rii Gaming RK909, switch out a few of the keycaps so they're not orange coloured and call it a day, this shit is impossible>inb4 "Buy a Keychron" I have one and he doesn't like them. Plus they're expensive and even more so since i'd still have to buy replacement keycaps
>>107345596Fn+8 to activate it. You might accidentally turn it of when battery checking with Fn B.I just got my K10 HE too. Gonna take while to use keyboard without knob after using one for years.
>>107345596>>107345860Nevermind it seems to be turn off by default.
>>107344292makes sense, the TMR Wheatstone bridge is a low signal sensor, similar to a microphone capsule
>>107332566https://keychron.com.es/products/keychron-k10-qmk-wireless-mechanical-keyboardiso-layout-version-2?variant=46592808878246https://keychron.com.es/products/keychron-k10-wireless-mechanical-keyboard-uk-iso-layout?variant=45756380676262
>>107332566>>107346464or K10 HE white:https://keychron.com.es/products/keychron-k10-he-wireless-magnetic-switch-custom-keyboard-iso-layout-collection?variant=46651865923750if you're paying that much, might as well go for a HE
I got a keychain v5 max and I like it. I wanted a full size wireless mechanical keyboard with minimal weight and this was the best I could find for those requirements. The space bar stabilizers are clicky though which is annoying because I swapped in silent tactile switches. I've some 205g0 coming in the mail to fix that. Overall it's not bad, definitely my endgame keyboard.
I hate this piece of shitIt dies after like 5 minutes with the lights onGoes apeshit with stuck keys just 3ft away from the computerAlso I just ordered the K2 HE
What's a good linux ffriendly 3D printer to make split keyboard cases?
I have the Logitech G515 Tactile keyboard and I hate ithttps://www.logitechg.com/en-us/shop/p/g515-tkl-wireless-keyboard.920-012423The keyboard I had prior to this one was the original Logitech G Pro keyboard which I believe had Romer keys (The G Pro has since been changed to GX Blue clicky switches). I typed so much better on that keyboard than this new G515. With this new G515, the keys are so easily pressed that I routinely press two buttons as once as I type. These keys are way too sensitive for me. For someone whose heavy fingers move quickly but sometimes ever so slightly inaccurately, what kind of switch is good for me?
>>107347454I bought a Bambu a few days ago. People criticize the company for various reasons, but it should work on Linux (Otherwise I will return it)
>>107347454I have a Creality K1C which is pretty good, you can easily ssh into it to push it beyond its OOB capabilities. (Changing the max bed temp to print carbon filament or installing alternative Web UIs, for example). If you're willing to tinker a bit you can get great prints out of it. I'd recommend printing bed shims and taking time to level the bed and getting a 0.2mm nozzle if you want to print keycaps. Also if your default extruder gets clogged it's a bit of a pain to open and fix but you can easily swap it for something better which will be my next upgrade, probably.It's been working pretty flawlessly for me. Only minor issue I have is that Orca Slicer is a bit unstable outside of X sessions.
Anything better than the Ajazz AK820 Pro for 50€?Need German layout as well.
can anyone identify this? I know it's a Keychron of some sort, K series. But I can't find one that looks exactly like that with the enter key size with only the arrow and only an arrow on the right shift key
Newfag here. Do all keyboards clown around by scanning a grid of diodes or are there sane alternatives that use something like https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/data-sheet/PCAL6524DS.pdf on an interrupt?
>>107338117I must say galaxies are beating other budget options I looked at by a mile. 70 with petal switches and thick caps out of the box is great but I prefer 80 tkl aesthetics more. Tough choice.
I ask once more. I bought a group buy keyboard in 2024 july from keygem. I still havent received it. Everytime I ask about it they tell me its been shipped and everytime I get a new excuse. People tell me keygem is a trustworthy site but I dont know anymore. I would resect delays but it feels like they are lying to me. how can you tell your customer its been shipped in february and once again tell him its been shipped in may and then once again tell him NOW its actually been shipped in october... I still havent received it.
>>107347555>heavy fingers move quickly but sometimes ever so slightly inaccuratelyThat's me and I prefer black switches but more importantly full size keycaps with cherry or similar profile so my fat fingers can slide along the diagonal sides of wrong keys without triggering them.
>>107344292Why does /mkg/ have so many schizos
Received my gateron melodics today, really liking em so far. Far better than the random blue switches I had before. Really liking the feel and sound of these.
How can I solve this Bluetooth issue?>sofle keyboard with nice nano>keyboard has 5 different profiles that allows me to connect to multiple devices>computer dual boots. One Linux one windows>keyboard will only connect to one operating system. Will fail to connect to Linux if connected to Windows and vice versaIs the solution having two Bluetooth dongles on my computer? I'm guessing my keyboard sees the one dongle and doesn't line having two profiles attached to if from different operating systems? Is there a way to bypass this?
>>107348927what keycaps are those
>>107344292I was thinking these keyboards would make for a nice larger magnet field mapping, since they have 80-100 sensors. with some position tracking you could 3D map a magnet's field, in detail. would need a gyro or use the one in the phone, keep it fixed to the PCB while moving it around
Ok so this is interesting. I checked Cherry's stat sheet for their MX switches, both MX1A and MX2A, and in both cases they say they are rated for anywhere from 10 microamperes to 10 milliamperes. Well out of four of my keyboards I just tested only one of them has current within that range through the switches:Keychron V6 Max - 6 microamperesDaring Run Flip 6P - 6 microamperesTypface Monospace (solder pcb) - 5 microamperesCannonkeys Photon - 11 microamperesMight desolder a switch from my other keyboard to give that a test too. Unless I'm measuring wrong (entirely possible lol) most keyboards seem to be out of spec...
>>107350497"Rated for" is probably just a CYA, and the switches will work outside of that range.
>>107350497how are you measuring ucurrent anon?
>Budget~75$usd, ideally less. Mainly looking for a big black friday sale.>Location (continent at least)NA>Preferred switch typeI do gaming and mainly heavy coding (vim btw), so they need to last a long time and be comfortable. Not too loud, ideally.>LayoutUS>Form factor75%+, ideally. Could do 65% if it's a really good deal.>BacklightWill turn off, so I don't care.Thank you in advance for the advice :)
>>107350570With a DMM (BM786) touching the contacts on a mutilated cherry brown (for hotswap), or touching the through-hole on a solder pcbWhich is why I say it's entirely possible that I'm doing this wrong lol I'm not an electrical engineer
>>107349807they both come in stock with the keyboardTKL below is epomaker galaxy80, above it galaxy70
>>107350512Quite possibly. Obviously the keyboards function normally right now, so of course they 'work'. But whether that has implications for lifespan when switches get a bit more worn out, I don't know. I'd certainly like to know more about how Cherry chose those numbers.In a strict sense though it would still be true that the keyboards are operating outside of Cherry's published specs. (Again, if my measurements aren't wrong.)
Joe Rogan wanted to switch to Dvorak. he "went down the rabbit hole"
Some keys had to be removed over time due to various political and safety reasons, such as the "abort" key (anti-choice vs anti-life nonsense), the "greek" key (need I say more?), the "Top" key (sexual connotations), and the hyper key mainly due to suicides caused by receiving a Hyper+Thumbs_down.
>>107350748>rub outgooner key>shifttrannie key
>>107350609seems to be MDA profile
>>107350780>>rub out>gooner keyBRING IT BACK.
>>107350748>Some keys had to be removed over time due to various political and safety reasons,Maybe we could stop pretending faggot lawyers and spineless bureaucrats are always having their hands forced by overwhelming outside pressure, when what's actually happening is that they are habitually making comically extreme shows of unforced cowardice, cringing in anticipation that the wind might blow
>>107350996_SUPER+_LIKE
>>107350834it is MDA inspired, i do not have experience but some youtube reviewers mentioned they are more flat than regular MDA.Personally, I like the looks but not so comfy to type on. Probably would need several days to get used to it
>>107341121i dont live in the usalso theyre expensive
>>107332996where can I get this? i want to feel like a ztard in a nuclear silo
G-guys, I'm really liking the LICHICX raw silent tactiles with the big bump. No clack, no thock, and yet it feels and sounds so good.
>>107351810I can't help but like lots of sublegends like that.
>>107351767Welcome to the club
>>107332515what are the go-to tactiles these days? A few years ago I built a keyboard for the office with boba u4t silents swapped to 90g springs and these days im starting to like it more than my clicky board at home. I dont mind the u4t silents, but I would like more tactility. I'll probably be spring swapping whatever I go with for something heavier, but I'd like to try them out first of course. Ideally dont want the switches to be unobtanium or horrifically expensive, but otherwise pretty open to suggestions.
how do homerow mods work with games? can i disable them when gaymen?
>>107346557>https://keychron.com.es/products/keychron-k10-he-wireless-magnetic-switch-custom-keyboard-iso-layout-collection?variant=46651865923750explain to me why is the q3/8k twice the price of the k10
are choc switches good for gaming?
>>107352589see >>107351767https://divinikey.com/products/lichicx-raw-switches?variant=40488105246785Also Gateron Lanes are a fun new one. Probably R2 soon
>>107348795Logitech MX Mechanical
>>107332996I like how even with a 204 keys each still has FUCKING 9~12 characters per KEY!
>>107350711The real rabbit hole is that human brains are weird as heck, and the efficiency of the interface is completely meaningless
what are the most silent choc v1 switches?
>>107332515Been happy with the NuPhy Air75 v2, Cowberry (45gf) switches feels nice and smooth, sounds good.
>>107353336>Logitech MX Mechanicalfantastic, thank you
>>107353206Got it, will check them both out. For this I dont really need/care if they're silent or not, those lichicx still a good pick? Only reason I went with the silents for my other board was to minimize noise in the office since I got some complaints/comments with other non silent tactiles. I think those were kiwis, which were ok, but I wanted stiffer springs.
>>107353125>explain to me why is the q3/8k twice the price of the k10just came out, full metal body, supposedly TMR sensors, 8kHz polling and 400 steps instead of 40 steps like on Hall Effect older versions.it's basically their latest slop, got released not one week ago
>>107354492I am not a silent guy and I like them just because of the sound and feel. They're not THAT silent. Similar to these (not the same switches but reminds me a lot of my board):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWtH3yA73Vg&t=8660s
>>107352988Yes you can disable them. Just have a second base layer for gaming without HRMs, since it's a base layer and not a normal layer you don't have to hold a key down and if you use transparent keys on your other layers, those will also work as expected.
>>107332515keychron c1 pro with cherry clears is endgame tier
Is this set worth it for ~$20? It has Outemu red switches.
>>107355519I'd rather buy logitech membrane shit at that price. Outemu Red are garbage
>>107355052c1 pro 8k is nicer, for 50 bucks
TKL or 65% keyboard?I have a full size but I keep hitting it with my right hand when playing vidya TKL is 139€65% is 99€I was tempted for the 65% but there's no tilde key which I use a lot when playing Skyrim or other games that have a console access, but it's a QMK keyboard and I can make a macro for it apparently
>>107355695on 65% some people map tilde to the right of backspace and put esc in tidle's old spot.you can also get a board with split backspace where backspace becomes two keys, backslash and tilde, and then backspace goes where backslash used to be. i use a split backspace 60% and I like it like that
>>107355736>>107355695also, you can map tilde to function as esc normally, shift+tilde becomes tilde and alt+tilde becomes backtick
>>107355695missing F-row looks wrong
>>107355744nah
>>107355736>>107355741Yeah I'll have to see to map it along with some keys to pause/unpause music>>107355744My only usage for the f rows is pausing/unpausing music, f12 for steam screenshots and changing seats in Battlefield, still yeah without it It feels weirdI think I might go for a TKL, although I wish they'd have a 65% form with f rows so it's still small in length
>>107355836>I wish they'd have a 65% form with f rows so it's still small in lengththey do, it's called 75%
>>107355869They sell a 75% but it's a lower quality than their 65%/TKL/Full size(Also I want one in white, they don't have the 75% in white yet)
>>107355695>Available with Red Blood and Brown Raccoon switchesWhere's the Pink Pussy switches?
>>107355992Coming 2026
>>107335279>chineseNope,japanesehttps://web.archive.org/web/20141111013928/http://twentytwowords.com/old-japanese-keyboard-has-216-keys-that-can-make-12-characters-each/>>107351685No idea :/>>107353359It has over 7000 charachters (cuz layers). The funniest part? You only need ~3000 to read and write fluently. And the funnier part? You can write any japanese word, ANY, using nothing but a set of 45 characters (hiragana). So this keyboard is beyond unnecessary, yet they made it anyway, for the love of the game. It truly was a better time, when men would invent not only for profit and necessity, but as way to impose their vision upon the world
cherry is dead lol
>>107356225Very much doubt it.
if you don't care about getting a random color, brutalist v1s are on clearance for like 70 bucks for black fridayI think they're solder only tho
>>107356283You forgot to mention that it comes with stabs and "mystery" switches and keycaps, so it's a fully functional keyboard (some assembly required)Chances are you'll get something that looks like picrel and it'll be b-stock, lol. But at that price you could do worse.
>>107356382Also you can all call me "Mr. G80" from now on. This is my sign that I need to pull the trigger on a G80-3000...
>>107355519maj frend, do yourself a favor and get aula f75 for like 180-200zł on aliexpres/temu. starts to behave like a solid mechanical at this level
>>107356382i couldn't help myself and gambled on the alice, 1.) because i am never going to pay full price for an alice without trying it first and i do want to try it and 2.) the alice colors are way more constrained so i don't think i'll end up with something super uglyI'll probably just get some shitty linears but I'll be super happy if I manage to get durock ceruleans because they are one of the switches on clearance and they were a mid bump tactile i strongly considered getting years ago. in any case, a full alu cannonkeys board for 80 bucks, with switches and keycaps, i really can't complain either way. i can't believe i just pulled the trigger on an alice but it just felt too good to pass up on
>>107356496I currently have an old HyperX Alloy with cherry blues. I like ticky tacky, but my spacebar is locking out recently when I push it in. But I need something quieter.
>>107356577I have an akluminum yunzi al71 on my desk for testing. It has linear switches, aiming to be thocky but the result is pretty clacky and typing feels okay if that's your style
>$31 ANSI-US JC Studio beige caps at milktooth for black fridayI already have two good beige sets so I can't justify this but for anyone who just wants a set of decent keycaps in the best colorway ever invented for computer accessories:https://milktooth.com/products/jcs-ansi-us-black
>>107356602Thanks for the feedback, I'll look into it.
Someone needs to invent a switch that's only like 25% dampened and you put it in your spacebar so it doesn't clack so hard
Lost track of time looking at black friday sales and now it's 7am. What the fuck. I've never done this before. The sales weren't even good
Hey, I'm now in need of a decent MK. Would really appreciate your advice, mkg:>Budget$200-$300, but might consider spending a bit more>Location (continent at least)North America>Preferred switch typeLinear, but I'd like to try Tactile switches. I have more experience with the former, but I'd prefer something hot-swappable to try out Tactiles.>LayoutANSI>Form factor60%>BacklightPer-key/full rgb>Previous/current keyboardsAnne Pro 2 (unironically). It's served well for quite a while when I was a upstart dev. Some keys have started to stop working, so I'm in need of a replacement.
>>107346557>UK-ISOs sold out fuck>>107346464quite literally the only QWERTY boards on their entire site left at 100% ... thank you fren
>>107358627>>UK-ISOs sold outdamn, was in stock when I linked it. sorry anonwas kinda high price anyway. 80% one is like $110 or € or sum shit. good price for the 100% is like 140€ or something.
apart from more specialized applications, like long battery life, are keyboard manufacturers using QMK? I only know of Keychron ones being compatible, everything else seems to have their own shit software. why?
I just got 98 wpm on 10 words. I know it's the easiest setting but I'm happy for now, I'm slowly and steadily improving.
>>107359294you're improving to fucking your fingers up. where are you going? 80wpm is enough to rage-post when you're being bated
https://www.pckeyboard.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=M_WHITEONBLACKUnicomp selling Mini Ms with NOS M13 WOB caps
I need new switches; the whatevers in my board are doing bad things, its "hot swapable" I will buy the first suggestion that are on black friday sale on Amazon, they cant be HE only normal switches gogogogogo
>>107355551Fair enough, I haven't paid attention to the keyboard market for about a year. Still, the only upgrade compared to the regular Pro is an 8K polling rate as opposed to a 1K polling rate so if you have one then there's really no reason to get the other
>>107361042https://www.amazon.com/GATERON-Keyboard-Dual-Rail-Compatible-Mechanical/dp/B0CW37W9CB
>>107356225>cherry is dead lolThey're not dead. They're just moving all production out of Germany and into Slovakia and China. Not like anyone cares, they've been stagnant for like a decade now and the switches they were making out of their German plant were absolute garbage from running the molds into the ground.
>>107359249
>>107361826ok ty
>>107362088You have to tell me if they're good, I've never tried them. They seem like they'd be good though.
>>107362146ok but im sure they are better than the "30g clears" im using right nwo that I got for free
>>107362254I was about to laugh at you for buying ultra meme light 3.5mm actuation switches but glob damn. How on earth do you type on 30g clears?
What's the deal with the Aula F75 knob slider not waking the keyboard up from sleep? It's annoying to have to choose a key that doesn't interrupt anything I'm doing, in the dark, just to make a key work to increase the volume. Why is it like this?
>>107356652Might as well spend like $10 extra for 21kb ones.
>>107362544Temporal knob actuator nor processing the valve pressure change correctly
>>107363425I don't know much about hardware. Can you explain in more layman terms?
>>107361139yeah 8k is a meme but I still would take it if given the choice between them. but I know I don't *need* 8k
is 50mm HE switches?
>>107364096>50mm*5mm. but I'd try 50mm as well
>>107364107what sort of wrist rests do you use for tenting split keyboards?
>>107364120I use a strap for mine
>>107362466i do not understand your question and i feel liek you are a faggott
>>107363218People who spend $30 on keycaps are pretty sensitive about spending $10 more. I'm not sure that XMI (iirc they sell XMI, no?) is really going to be noticeably better than JC Studio, as far as I know it's the same blanks and JC Studio dye sub is perfectly good.I like XMI and I even have some CRP caps, so I'm happy to be reminded of 21kb which I tend to forget exists. But I think there are anons who'd be more into JC Studio if it's $10 cheaper
>>107357963https://kbdfans.com/products/tofu60-redux-kit-1?_pos=4&_psq=Tofu&_ss=e&_v=1.0Then add switches and keycaps of your choice.
i'm about to order a few ferris sweep pcbs but i want to remove the stupid rust crab and the text on the back, anyone knows how to work with kicad files? is it just as easy as selecting the drawing and pressing delete?https://github.com/davidphilipbarr/Sweep/tree/main/Sweep%20v2.2
>>107364850>is it just as easy as selecting the drawing and pressing delete?ye but export the gerber files again, the files you actually send to the fab house
>>107364850:(
>>107364263Fuck you retard, look at your shit typing. You can't type for shit with your light switches. Have fun with ultra light silvers fucking moron.
>Budget$150-ish or lower>Location (continent at least)United States>Preferred switch typeHard to say, but I do like the click of Cherry Blues and do a lot of coding/gaming>LayoutANSI>Form factorTKL>BacklightNot necessary but nice to have, don't care for any faggy gamer RGB shit either>Previous/current keyboardsSome old-ass Razer Blackwidow, which I like the feel of but I want something a bit nicerI went to Micro Center today and tried out a bunch of Keychrons, was not huge on the feeling of the brown switches in the K8 and it was the only one they had in stock. The red switches on the Q5 felt really good, but missing some "click" that I guess I'm used to. So far, I've been looking at:Realforce R3SEpomaker Magcore 87NuPhy Gem80Keychron Q3 MaxEvoworks Evo80I've heard shitty things about NuPhy and Keychron in terms of customer service, and really the biggest downside of the Realforce is very shallow customization. I was interested in the Wooting 80HE but the magnetic switch Keychron K2 HE I tried at Micro Center wasn't too impressive, plus Wooting seems like it's kind of a meme for anything but competitive gaming.
>>107366333Evo 80 easy, don't even think about it
>>107366333either realforce or evo80. nuphy's only good product is the air v3. keychron and epomaker are budget brands role-playing as quality keyboards. Realforce has a better typing experience and setting the accusation point is actually pretty neat for gaming. But evo80 is in another galaxy of build quality and design. Realforce is meant for an office. Evo80 has the Chinese design look that works better in a home if you don't mind the "toy" look to it. You are also cucking yourself out of an entire keyboard ecosystem with the Realforce.
>>107332515Well. Give me your thoughts.
>>107367438bruh where f-row and arrows
>>107366333Keychron C1 Pro (8K) with Keychron Banana/Mint if in stock, or Cherry Clears if out of stock
>>107367438not TKL or full size therefore trash tier build
Just got this thing. I set it to 0.2mm to register but it doesn't feel that much different to type on. Pretty underwhelming.What are some cool macros to use
>>107332515Hey mkgnons, is there anything like the G80-3000 in modern? Proper case, large bezels, no battery illness? Need to buy a new keyboard for my uncle, but dear lord the market looks grim.
I boughted keychron silent bananas
>>107369451depends on your typing style. lower actuation points means less accidental presses. if you feather each key you probably want it right up
Which one of you is this?
>>107368614>full sizelittle baby
>>107371456seek help whoever you are
>>107369514just buy a new G80-3000?
>>107371561nothing is wrong with him
>>107371754I think it's more healthy to accept you won't have some nice things. obsessive collectors are ODing on fomo
>>107371456its funny this used to be like $10k in keycaps before GMK started reprinting their old stufff
>>107366333I'd just get something like e.g. a Leopold with MX Blueshttps://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/leopold-fc750rbt-bluetooth-greyblue-pdAlternatively, if you like the styling of any if the 8bitdo keyboards, you'll probably enjoy Kailh Box White clicky switches.Is the Evo80 a better deal in some sense? Yes. But it doesn't come with clicky switches, and I'm not certain that they would sound any nicer in an aluminum case.
>>107371733Ok, by "modern" i actually meant "attempts to achieve value", besides the form factor it falls short in every category, especially cap and case quality.
>BudgetUp to €110 / $130>Location (continent at least)Central europe (the poor part)>Preferred switch typeSomething that takes some force to activate. Linear switches. Been using cherry mx black since forever.I might consider tactile switches if there are any that don't make sound.>LayoutISO UK>Form factor100% or even higher (like pic rel)>BacklightDoesn't matter.>Previous/current keyboardsSteel Series 6GV2It took countless amount of hammer punches back when i was still enjoying video games and i had to re-solder switches many times. Once every blue moon some key won't register. Not sure if it's because of the puching or semen that accidentally got there.I need something wireless because i need it for work and home.Also, i want something that has retro colors.
I saw a transgendered person today and it reminded me of 100% keyboards
>>107332515What should I search up about split keyboards?
>>107374798that depends, what do you want and already know
>>107374872I would like to purchase or build my first quality keyboard with the main intent of ergonomics for programming.probably linear, backlight would be cool, ansi?previously used KBParadise V60 bluescurrently using ducky one 2 mini reds
Which keyboard would be ideal for giving me the image of a gamer who hates Valve, hates Gabe Newell, hates the Steam Deck and hates the Steam Machine, hates Half-Life and hates all PC gaming in general?
>>107372922what scancodes does the left cluster send?
>>107374901Apple keyboard
why do they keep making keyboards smallerwhere are they taking the keys? and why?
>>107374928Why would an Apple keyboard be ideal for me?
>>107374901>gamerignore >>107374928picrel
>>107374947I would prefer a keyboard with a completely anti-gaming design that is totally useless for gaming.
>>107374964>anti-gaming>totally useless
>>107374992Which keyboard is that?
I'm a retard with 35 years of experience in typing using the wrong fingers.I was wondering if getting a split keyboard would allow me to re-learn how to type correctly faster.Are there any budget options for split mechanical keyboards?Europoor here.
>>107375002laser projection keyboard, there are multiple models, that's just first search result.
f1-8x v2 is so good it might have cured my keyboard autism for real this time
>>107375023Why a laser projection keyboard the anti-gaming keyboard I'm looking for?
>>107375056it's totally useless and you will break your fingers and make misclicks all the time trying to game on it. it's basically impossible to touch-type or rest your fingers when using one, there is zero tactile guidance.
>>107375056because it's fucking doshit. if your finger is in front of the other, it can't detect the hidden finger's keypress. you could try gaming on one, will make you want kill yourself. a win win for everyone
>>107375013>Are there any budget options for split mechanical keyboards?aliexpress
>>107375056imagine capacitive touch keyboard, but worse
>>107374901the seneca is the most aggressively anti gamer keyboard on the market, followed by apple magic keyboard, then anything made by YUNZI
>>107375503>the seneca is the most aggressively anti gamer keyboard on the marketwhy? the 50mm front case height? the EC switches?
Any keycap recommendations?
>>107376710glossy ceramic ones.you'll never want to touch plastic again.
>>107376710Try MT3, they feel pretty nice. Only bad thing about 'em is being owned by Drop.
Is it possible to train oneself into not bottoming out the switches?
>>107374964this is the mind of a true retard: he does not actually care about finding a good keyboard; he only cares about making a statement of their worthless personality.
whats with the boomer obsession over fkeys and numpads? why do retarded redditors understand layers better than an autistic technology board?
>>107376990yes, use sub 40g switches or topre boards with 40g switches and 2mm actuation. its very easy to develop a light touch.
>>107376990why would you do this? there's really no benefit to it
>>107377032/g/ is full of contradictory ideologies; they hate Ubuntu but also hate Arch. They hate C++ but also hate Rust. 60% keyboards are for trannies, while full keyboards are also for trannies. /g/ showcases the bottomless malice at the depths of the human heart
how the FUCK do I design a pcb?I want to make a wireless split columnar stagger keyboard with rotary encoders and 5 rows so I can have escape/function keys. And a second one that's the same thing but with low profile choc switches instead.
>>107377178KiCad. It's not hard. It's basically like playing sim city.
>>107377082>60% keyboards are for tranniesTrue.>while full keyboards are also for trannies. Also true.
>>107376990Using short springs helps, since the switch starts light and gets heavy. I do bottom out on my 14mm mx browns but not hard
>>107377082
spring-swapping 100 cherry browns that I already spring-swapped because the springs I used last time pinged. Kill me.
>>107378066why wouldn't you just get a new set of browns?
>>107378066>>107378078why even use browns in 2025? they feel like linears and you have a gorillian choices available for actual tactile switches
>>107378078These were already lubed and filmed and not used very heavily, so why wouldn't I just swap the springs?
>>107374901Intro S100 in Half-Life colorway.
>>107376741nta I'm waiting for matte black ones, with white matte glass legends for shine-through. please someone make it happen
>>107377178https://zmk.dev/docs/hardwareand some random example from there: https://github.com/davidphilipbarr/Sweepjust get one project you think is closer to what you want and start modifying it.
>>107374901The 8bitdo xbox keyboard
Hows the crush 80? I see its on sale for 150 on amazon.
>>107379515Or this one
Hate the rgb tho. Why do keyboard makers put that shit everywhere.Evo 80, crush 80, aurora80 any other tkl suggestions
>>107379515Crush 80 for the 2 day shipping
>>107379544Novelkeys Classic-TKL, NCR 80, Neo80, Neo80 cu
>>107379587Neo 80 isnt in stock.
>>107379622Oh wow they finally stopped making them I guess. Must be because they didn't want to compete with their own Neo80 cu run.
34 keys is the sweet spot. Anything higher is bloat
>>107332515Budget: depends on how close it is to what I'm looking for, preferably under 300€.Location: NetherlandsPreferred switch type: Tactilelayout: ANSIFF: 100% or TKLBacklight: Don't care.My unicomp model M is dead and I'm sick of typing on the cheapest USB keyboard I could find at the store. Looking for something at least as loud and tactile. Bonus points if fits the rest of my desk.
What's the big deal over the F1? How is it not just a bunch of snake oil bullshit?>muh foamless copper bottomwhat a stupid fucking idea. And everyone just eats it up.
>>107380202NCR80 with Haimu whisper silent switches and SA profile keycaps. It'll sound like a Topre too.
>>107380357>NCR80I came across that one but it doesn't come in black :/. For switches I have my eyes on Box Navy or Arctic Fox and MT3 Susuwatari for keycaps.I've been looking for something that more or less matches my speakers (wood sides, brushed metal or black body). The keychron HE keyboards kind of fit that definition but they use hall effect switches and they come with a bunch of shit I don't really want. I guess best description is pircel stretched out to keyboard proportions.
Ducky Origin Black for 100€. Any reason not to get it when looking for the most boring ISO-DE, full sized keyboard with PBT caps?
budget 96%~100% boards for a poorfag?not really an enthusiast, but felt like giving mkb a try>buy a cheap board, then buy a gateron milky top black bottom switch setgot this advice a while ago, don't know if still valid today
>>107380570The go to for iso de used to be DAS keyboard but they stopped selling them along time agoNow your only option is keychron
>>107380457K SE series is perfect for your need.>but I don't want HEtough luck anon. I get it, it's the latest shit people like it and you don't wanna be branded some normie. guess you'll have to wait it out for 30 years until you switch to HE. it would be obscure enough by that point
>>107381512Yes that is good advice. >>107380457Just try the HE keyboard, stop being scared of new thing
>>107382018You can get a DE layout DK still though, in various flavours: https://geizhals.eu/?cat=kb&xf=1041_Das+Keyboard~7008_DEaloneThey aren't worth their price these days though, they are just too expensive for a decent quality no-frills keyboard. I'd only consider one only if found on a massive discount. Same goes for Ducky
>>107382309What the HECKIES their mid as heck keyboards used to be 99 dollars oh my
>>107332515Budget: something like 300 Euro maxLocation: PolandPreferred switch type: Linear I guess, I'm a newbie. I fell for the "magnetic switch" buzzword.Layout: No preferenceForm factor: 100%Backlight: Yes, any kind
>>107382445DK4 apparently had an MSRP of $169.00 back in 2014. Can't remember what I paid for mine in eurobucks, but it was something like thathttps://www.pcmag.com/reviews/das-keyboard-4-professional
>ordered the same low-profile keyboard in with both red and brown Kailh switches>keep switching between the two for a week>easily typing 110 wpm with 98% accuracy on the brown switches>can barely type 103 wpm with 96% accuracy on the red switcheshow do people tolerate linear, man....thankfully I used my brain and decided to try out both for myself instead of trusting ChatGPT, which said that I would be faster on the reds
>>107372629>https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/leopold-fc750rbt-bluetooth-greyblue-pdThis one is pretty interesting actually. I'll narrow it down between this and the Evo80, I suppose; however, I think it'll come down to what deals pop up come Monday, since the Evo80 seems to be staying largely at $160 new for any given color/switch combo across multiple sites.I'm also not crazy about the 8bitdo keyboards but I'll check out those switches. Since switches are cheap I could just change them around later in whatever model I buy. I'm honestly more floored by how expensive keycap kits are.
>>107382475https://keychron.com.es/products/keychron-q6-he-8k-magnetic-switch-keyboard-us-ansi-layout?variant=46704901226662this one probably fits but it's expensive. still, TMR and 8kHz, and 100%. I'd like to see closeups for the chips on its PCB, that's a lot of columns to be driving like their older HE models, at 8kHz
>>107383664>The Q6 HE 8K is compatible exclusively with the Keychron Ultra-fast Lime Magnetic Switch. It does not support other magnetic switches, such as the Gateron Magnetic Jade or Gateron KS-20 Magnetic switches.and it still seems like they're using KS-37B switches, with south pole facing the sensor. the nebula switches should theoretically be compatible
>>107382125I get why people like them, but I've tried linear switches in the past and... I don't like them, at all, personally. I come from a model M so I prefer tactile and loud as fuck. It just doesn't make sense to spend ~140€ on a board I'm unlikely to enjoy typing on, I'd rather buy another guitar pedal.
>>107382638Reds are trash. Use tuned Blacks on PP/PC next time instead of being a cuck.
Are GMk keycaps a meme? I got a set during Black Friday for like $80 shipped and while it looks nice, it doesn’t feel or sound better than AliExpress stuff that’s $20. I guess I do like the deeper groove on the f and j keys but honestly pretty underwhelming. And they develop that ugly greasy look over time while pbt doesn’t
>>107380457YMDKey sells one in black
>>107384113>That ugly greasy lookThis is a mental thing that only guys with Cheeto fingers get. To me it just looks like shined up abraded plastic, because I do not think of myself as greasy
>>107384334I just hate that it’s uneven. since I do some gaming the wasd keys are going to develop it first. If it was uniform through the whole set I’d be ok with it
>>107384334holy mother of COPIUM overloadLMAOeven I feel second hand cope from that one
Ok I never knew about the evo80 until u guys, does the casing being above make a better sound?
>>107383680Alright, thanks anon.
>>107384391just pop out all the keys and put back randomly. boom, even wear. you do touch type, right?
Geon boards are overpriced trash.
>>107384612Honestly that’s a pretty good idea lol. It’s just the dashes and non alphabetical I can’t touch type
>>107384113Like hell it doesn't. Lay off the lies, man. GMK caps sound amazing, as does KeyKobo and other name brand caps. Your $20 caps are ass and they look and feel ass. You're just coping really, really hard. And PBT doesn't? All plastic caps shine with time. Maybe don't let your finger grease stay on your keycaps after using them all day, wipe them down and keep them clean. Fucking retard.
>>107332515what's the best way to build a dactyl manuform in europe? just print the plastic in some online 3d shop, and build the rest myself, or buy some kit?
>>107384696Calm down sis! They aren’t bad or anything and the legends are very nice. Certainly better than the AliExpress caps in that regard. I see you feel strongly about this so I’ll just leave a pic of my Momo Yume for you. I took them off as I think a different keyboard would look better with them
>>107384980I'm not serious. Never back down. We need to respond hard to the GMK mafia. They're the reason we don't get any good PBT keycaps, all the designs get funneled to GMK and they only use ABS shite and won't touch PBT unless it's for the meme MTNU profile.
>>107382266Any idea if the PCB from a regular K8 will fit a K8 HE?
why does nuphy take so long to ship to eu i hate these chinks so much
>>107385159Just be glad you're not paying gay freedom tariffs.
>>107384495ball catch can either sound decent or sound like shit and it isn’t really consistent
>>107384755I could send you the parts you need to build one, but shipping from milkbagland to yurop won't exactly be cheap.
>>107385413It’s a cool concept and it looks nice but I don’t need another keyboard at this point…
>>107384291>YMDKeyOut of stock. :/That one and pretty much all of the other aesthetically pleasing cases I found were.
I know this isn't exactly the right thread to ask, but you are all keyboard nerds here, so you are probably anal about your mice too.I'm in need of a new mouse but discovered they are all cheap plastic shits across all brands now.Not a single mouse has a god damn scroll wheel that isn't made out of plastic anymore, and the most popular mouse in the world is suddenly a lightweight cheap plastic piece of shit with a ridiculous price tag.In other words the following brands are completely fucking out of ever being bought;>Logitech, Razer, Corsair, Steelseries, Asus, and GloriousThe jews have shaved off corporations like they used to shave coins, it's getting ridiculous.Please, does anyone have any mouse suggestions that don't suck?>Scroll wheel that isn't plastic or rubber>2 extra mouse buttons on thumb (mouse 4 and 5)>Isn't some cheap plastic piece of shit
>>107386323Find an old Logitech Proteus core G502 on ebay etc.
>>107382309Yeah but what is the alternative? >>107382018 is in the same boat due to all available models being even more expensive than the ducky. Frankly the V6 case also looks like mass produced tranny case.
>>107386323just want to say, the logitech pro x is the best mouse in the world for a reason. But if you must have a non- plasic mouse the pulsar - feinmann F01 is your best bet. It is made out of magnesium and has a metal scroll wheel. It's not quite as technically good as the pro x, but the build quality is real.
>>107332515wanna add to this, maybe full sized keyboard, wireless and not over $150. i will provide switches and caps if possible.
>>107386778You should've got the mojo pad as well.
>>107386450I don't know, but 100 € seems like a lot for ducky origin. You can get a ducky one 3 for less than 80 € in binland, and it is supposedly a higher quality board. If 100 € was my budget, I'd just wait for sales and get something with a large discount. There might have been something this weekend>V6 case also looks like mass produced tranny caseI think it looks like a normal, healthy, not-surgically-altered keeb. I'm kinda iffy about the translucent ISO versions though, even if I haven't actually seen one live. In any case, I don't think it is realistic to look for a new non-mass produced full size keyboard
I demand to know why the F1 is hyped to hell.
>>107386778oh nice I think I just bought those orange accent caps off drop for 5 dollars :3 they are gonna look good
>>107387218>You can get a ducky one 3 for less than 80 € in binlandI don't see a single one below double the price. God, this country has gone downhill..
