/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbotsAsuka Edition>NewsAnthropic releases Opus 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-5Google releases Gemini 3 Pro https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3/#gemini-3xAI releases Grok 4.1 https://x.ai/news/grok-4-1OpenAI releases GPT-5.1 https://openai.com/index/gpt-5-1Moonshot releases Kimi K2 Thinking https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2-ThinkingZhipu AI releases GLM-4.6 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6Anthropic releases Claude Sonnet 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5Additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cc | https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.htmlhttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html>ModelsJailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listingGPT: https://platform.openai.com/docsClaude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudeGemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrDeepSeek: https://api-docs.deepseek.comLocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.htmlhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.htmlLore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesServices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metaLogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgUseful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyrebornPrevious: >>107344717
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Can we get a non-spite bake?
>corpo advertising their image generation>image of an animal doing something human>image of an animal doing something in space>image of an animal doing something it doesn't normally do>image of an animalWAOW!!!!
>>107351876Cunny wrestling character I made. Got banned from chub for some reasonhttps://files.catbox.moe/obtlxe.png
>>107352043AND ON THIS CORNER! LA LOLAAAAA!
>>107352043do you run this as anon or baked a wrestler persona?
cftf. top and bottom each
We must dethrone janitorai. The rainbow hellhole for zoomers must fall, all must return to the fold.
who the fuck is this attention whore? I really dislike this retard's OPshaving said that, I hate how claude 4.0 does shit like>She uses your name though you never gave it.NO SHE DOESN'T - SHE DOESN'T KNOW MY FUCKING NAMEI REALLY HATE HOW IT ACKNOWLEDGES YOU DIDN'T GIVE THE BOT YOUR NAME, SO IT ACKNOWLEDGES IT TOO, AND PROCEEDS TO USE IT
>>107352129Damn, I want this feel now too.
>>107352154Boohoo nigga>skillet tooLmao
>>107352154Weird, hasn't been a problem for me in a long time. Is it doing it in the first couple of replies?
>>107352190shut the fuck up attention whoreno one likes you>>107352216well, introductions are usually early, so idk
>>107352226here anon you dropped this
why is it that opus 4.5 always seems to acknowledge the last statement made in my reply? Doing normal SFW rp for now, and bot character only responds to whatever I say in my final two paragraphs.
>>107352263they trained it on jeetmini outputs
>normal bake>"a-attention whore!!"what is li'l bro on about
usecase for filters rentry?
>>107352145it's falling in pieces already, moderation is making even cucks move from jai to chub
Pls archive this thread already
>>107352319how about you archive yourself instead
>>107352353Isn't harassment against the rules of this website??
>>107352393it's not harass. "archiving" means saving for posterior access.
>>107352112It's a baked in wrestler persona but you can adjust it to whatever you want easily. Play a manager or something else too if you change the intro.
Is Chub.ai the only place to look up lorebooks? I really don't want to have to do this from scratch if I don't have too. Making these things is tedious as all hell.
>>107352145Whats wrong with Janitorai?
>>107352497chub or risu (korean)veeery few franchises have decently made lorebooks
>>107352514I had that feeling when the only lorebook for Soul Eater on Chub only had eight entries. Its going to take forever to add in everything I want.
>>107352145They keep tightening the rules for what can be posted publicly and it's only matter of time before the dev(s?) goes full "no nsfw allowed, sorry :)"
>>107352550That's what they all do. Allow everything then slowly start placing more and more restrictions until nsfw is off the table or impractical to do.
>>107352550Just as it should. Kids also use it, NSFW shouldn't even be considered in family-friendly spaces
>>107352590Ban kids. I don't want children in my adult space.
>>107352043Chub is super anal about any sort of loli imagery. Anything even slightest lewd is hammered, and if a character is underage, it's automatically flagged as NSFL and shadowbanned from viewing unless you specific allow it. They are one step away from banning loli/underage altogether.
>>107352692Yeah they deleted the picture first and then later on the card was pulled entirely. ATF or someone needs to make their own version of chub
>>107352721Chub was supposed to be that place. But the owner learned to love money over freedom.
>>107351876https://rentry.org/botmakersecretsanta3 botmakersecretsanta@proton.me Entries open until the end of November. 15 entries so far.
>>107352721thisit's not like there's no market, loli cards still make good numbers on chub, following "loli" tag and sorting by 7-days popularity, results in its own kind of "trending" tab
>>107352154Easiest fix is to just open Author's Note and put "{{char}} doesn't know {{user}}'s name"
What should I do for this?I like practicing different languages and if I can have small short basic conversations daily I can learn super fast. If it can be a role playing thing of some kind that's even better. I was able to learn to read/write french at basic conversational level in just a few weeks, by playing wow w people in quebec (using in game text chat). I want to try to emulate this. Even if it is not factually correct, or even made up nonsense, idc, as long as it is mostly grammatically correct. suggestions?I'm too dumb to get risuai working locally. agnai looks like it is online only (I want offline if possible), and sillytavern is stroking out or something.
Anyone got some good scenariocardkinodesuplex for me to run?
>>107352980>sillytavern is stroking out or something.uh?
>>107352980>and sillytavern is stroking out or something.Elaborate.
>>107352318Is that shit STILL going on?!
>>107352721It's surprising that /g/ still doesn't have alternatives to Chub, considering it's basically just a site for hosting PNGs and JSON files.
>>107352129Retard. Just post your entire comment into G3mini and profit.
>>107352307OP is big mad, huh?
>>107353277Gemini is going to say it's against google policy to generate sexual content so that wont work
Guys... why do so many people enjoy NTR? I see NTR letters, some clearly AI-generated and completely unedited, getting hundreds of downloads and interactions. I thought it was because of the challenge of not losing the girl, but most start with the girl already lost and in someone else's hands. Do so many people really enjoy being cheated on? I'm not trying to humiliate anyone, I'm just asking out of curiosity.
>>107353287>Retard.Oh, carry on then.
>>107353288>letters>botsfix, kek
>>107353277I may be a vramlet but I'm staying local. Simple as.
>>107353288>I thought it was because of the challenge of not losing the girlThis is actually what I'm doing right now but G3mini is a bit too eager to do all sex scenes (even the ones between me and char) so it keeps fucking me over.
>>107352406*accesses your posterior*
>>107353293i accept your concession
>>107353315kek
>>107353251It's gonna keep happening until either Chub or Janitor die.
>>107352980nvm ollama with deepseek seems good enough, especially if I tell it to speak colloquially >>107353114>>107353249It randomly quits replying (it replies but the text is blank) or it's like it accidentally gives me the prompts it meant to give to ollama
>>107353257
>>107353257Fucked up that they killed the booru.
>>107353288sometimes i download NTR cards except then i NTR the bull instead
>>107353288I can't comprehend wanting to get cucked, but rp'ing as the bull is kino
>>107353447>NTR is bad>But NTR is good
>>107353288i hate myself
>>107351873Enjoying the cyberpunk gens.Also DS just released a new model. Just math tho. But I think its time to kick off an xmas /wait/ for a cycle. I'll do it when I get in front of a real computer this Monday.
>>107353288>I thought it was because of the challenge of not losing the girlwhy would anyone in their sane mind fight for someone who stopped liking you is beyond melost her? good, move on with lifekept her? bad, she will now require much more effort to keep her from looking at the sidethe only appeal I see there is tricking her in some kind of coercion to stroke your ego, but beyond that, shit will eventually implode
>>107353560It really is one of the ultimate no-win scenarios for men. The first guy loses because his girl cheats, and the new guy will lose in the long run because of the rule that, "if she will cheat for you, she will cheat on you."
>>107353288Think of it as rape hentai.I project onto the seducer.I guess for the masochists out there it's like watching an 80's splatter flick, it's not like anyone really wants a man in a hockey mask to gut them with a machete.
Any place where I can find Japanese cards? Tried everything from the rec and I've only found like 5 cards (and they're not very good).
>>107353288There are many types of NTRkino my friend
>>107353586also that, but problem runs even deeperI'm sure 90% of normalfags chats out there at some point fall into "I did A, B and C for you!" in what universe do you think that will help you keep a woman? it's as if a proxymaker came here demanding the thread's recognition for providing claude for a few daysthese people must have been much better on being born women
>>107353482There are healthier ways to channel your self-loathing than getting cucked, friend...
NTR is like eating shit, it's nice in roleplay but its gross irl
>>107351873gg
>>107353560Yes, that's one of the points I don't understand, but I suppose it has more to do with a lack of self-love/a desire not to be alone, even if it makes you suffer?The only reason, in my opinion, why there are so many NTR bots (not where you play the bull, but the cuck) is perhaps because of a desire for self-punishment that makes your brain aroused to avoid pain? Or at least that's what I've read when the typical cliché of the cuck getting aroused because he's being cheated on happens in real life. Except, with a bot, it's all a fictional and manageable scenario.The other options are voyeurism, the desire to prevent the girl from being stolen (but again, almost all bots start with the girl already lost, so... I don't see the point).Although what makes me wonder is how these cards get so many downloads and interactions even though they have all the bot creation flaws. I guess most NTRenjoyers don't care as long as they get cheated on? lol....oh, and also the possibility of having a justification for killing the bot, lol.>>107353303Make sure you humiliate the bull, that's always fun, kek.
My favorite NTR is the one where you turn a lesbian couple straight with you cock.
>>107353560>why would anyone in their sane mind fight for someone who stopped liking you is beyond meBecause she didn't stop liking me, I'm just dangling red meat in front of her face to see if she will cheat. A story is boring without emotional conflict and there's no finer catharsis than pushing her into a lustful situation, seeing her resist and choose you, then fucking her brains out later as a reward.>>107353681So what happened was, I defeated the bull in a duel and I wanted to do that so I asked her and she said no. She pitied him, spit on him, and walked off to go sit on my dick at her house instead. I might do it with a different bull later on in the story though.
>>107353690You might be ESL, but this is peak right here.
>>107353360>ollamaWhy not just use an API like Gemini or Deepseek that can speak to you in basically any language? Even baby shit like Flash Lite should work and doesn't need you to beat your head in with local crap.
>>107353681>I suppose it has more to do with a lack of self-love/a desire not to be alone, even if it makes you suffer?case in point, these people have extremely feminine minds and associated flaws like need for validation>how these cards get so many downloads and interactions even though they have all the bot creation flawsconsidering the average chub user doesn't read, I guess they get off on gpt/etc's overdramatic narration and consider it good writingthey may also lack the ability to recognize patterns and isms
>>107353288it's good for drama
how do i use gemini 3 on openrouter
fuck i shouldve downloaded the github file yesterday instead of just having the tab open
>>107353771Yes, I understand that point. A story or role-playing game is entertaining when there's drama involved, but what's the drama in being laughed at or humiliated, which is almost the norm in these scenarios?In a story or game, you know the hero will win in the end, no matter how much they suffer along the way. In "avoidable NTR," the girl always ends up with you if you don't stay put or conspire against yourself to make her cheat on you. That follows the same logic of "you know you're going to win, how you get there is what's entertaining." But what's the drama in seeing your girl happy with another man or being laughed at while you're left powerless in a corner with no way out? It doesn't seem like drama; it seems like self-inflicted punishment.
>>107353802?
>>107353819>which is almost the norm in these scenarios?I wish. 90% of NTR bots give you a lot of room to wiggle out of it or at least get revenge easily. True mean spirited and humiliation focused NTR bots are almost non-existent on chub.
What are some of the best free, unfiltered and NSFW local models?This is fine but I want something betterhttps://huggingface.co/TheDrummer/Moistral-11B-v3-GGUF?not-for-all-audiences=true
Yes I use Gemini directly from the APIYes it’s on my main Google accountYes I prompt incest RPs so Indian interns can read through them
I've grown tired of RPing as an omnipotent entity that can get what they want by changing reality. Now I want to goon with restrictions. Make me work for it.
>>107351876https://files.catbox.moe/bg7efl.png (symbol image)Your little sister (11) (not bratty, at least not explicitly so) found your stash of AI generated cyberpunk2077 with her face on it!At least your parents aren't here for the fallout. Deal with her!You are 15 years old in this scenario.Soon to be uploaded after I do some testing, but I think you can have this version already. I doubt I will do a lot on it.more lolis: https://chub.ai/users/namelesslurkI guess characterhub.org is just dead? I thought chub was just a copy of it.
>>107353994>not brattyslop
>>107353257isn't nyai that
>>107353820i get blanks
>>107354007disable streaming
>>107353819The problem is, all AIs outside of Gemini will bend physics to make sure you succeed. You have to actively sabotage yourself just to have the basic drama you were looking for. But if you're also skilled at prompting, you don't know that the hero will win in the end because you can be so neutral or create a situation so appealing that char will actually cheat. That's when it stings the worst. AI looked at everything involved, thought of a few seconds, and decided cheating was the correct choice. Then you have to deal with the fallout for the next sixty responses which sucks me right into the story.
>>107353994>I guess characterhub.org is just dead?I think all the oldfags who were complaining about the UI change finally died out and they decided to cut it loose.
I miss R1's negativity
>>107354014nta but i'm getting blanks with gemini 3. g2.5, deepseek, claude all work fine though with and without streaming
>>107354014thanks
>>107353986You could try adding a field to your JB like (Roll dice and determine the success of my action based on the score).
>>107354001I'm tired of brats. Specially sexually active ones.ENF is great, but so is unwitting humiliation like this or forced nudity in a public setting.
>>107353499>>107354026We don't care about chinkmodels here
>>107353994holy forehead, artist?
>>107354300>imagine not knowing ponsukecringe lolicon unc
>>107352043>for some reason
>>107354002its shit though, need a better one
>>107354349what's it missing
>>107354359an appealing layout, better user profile pages, better card layouts, its design is just fucking terrible
>>107353288it's a humiliation thingyou don't get it because you also don't get people getting turned on by being spat on
>>107354396idk i think it's fine just to download bots
>>107353994do you just drop by every half a year? you know you can leave this place behind
stop reason refusal on 4pus means i hit the constitutional classifier, right?
>>107354515i make bots. most of them never see the light and are just for my own amusement.
>>107354515considering it takes a month to write a bot and another one to get tired of it, that's like just a handful of months of inactivity
>>107351873You fuckers try Jester chatbot yet?>>41553946
>get a prepaid visa card paid for in cash so i don't associate my real cards with my coom prompts>doesn't work on openrouter>doesn't work trying to buy crypto to purchase on openrouterugh, fine. have all my fetishes, google / anthropic / whoever.
>>107353979>so Indian interns can read through themdoes this actually happen?
>>107354734yes anon they have one indian intern combing through billions of incest rape logs
>>107354734nta but it definitely happened with AIdungeonthough for today's models, I imagine chats that get flagged or hit filters repeatedly are put aside to be read by someoneif they ever want to actually go through with tightening the filters specifically against roleplay they'll also simply search through the logs for popular terms only found in our neck of the woods like what that honeypot article did to prove that we are all pedos
>>107354753I believe OAI had Kenyans going through logs and images.
>>107354478a site needs to be pleasing to look at or no one will use it
Anyone miss unhinged.ai? It was nuked not too long ago and replaced with something called Goopy or Derfy or whatever the fuck it's called now.
Anyone heard of or use Sophia's Lorebary? It looks interesting but also just seems like bloat that can be handled with Lorebooks or proper bot building.
Anyone miss fartsniffer.ai?Anyone heard of snartfiffer.ai?
Corporate AI, and social media like YouTube and TikTok crack me up with their contradictions. "Cocksucker motherfucker fuck shit cunt cock pussy!" -- Perfectly okay!Show a boobie? - NO! THAT'S NOT FAMILY FRIENDLY!
>>107355092We live... in a society.
>>107353288I don't know whyI enjoy... netori, is it? where YOU're the one cucking the guy. Do you understand that? That's like the male imperative, I believe. I like to make their boyfriends jacked, rich, with huge dicks, and you're STILL cucking themthen you beat the guy up - I've been cumming HARD to that shit for half a year, but sadly, it lost its spice to me - cucking is now like defaultbut GETTING cucked? I think it's just weakness, low self-esteem, and porn addictionI never jacked to that shit, and I tried - doesn't feel right, can't get hard, and just feels like shit - why would anyone watch that?I think it's masochismoh yeah - about the "challenge of not losing the girl" - I have a card like that - well, not my card, a card by some other anon where this faggot is trying to steal your wife - and yeah, I 100% like that card - I watch her like a hawk, see some guy trying to start shit, then I beat him up/humiliate/kill/outman him/put him in prison and watch him devolve - that's just male shit, strokes the.... everything just right
>>107355092>"Cocksucker motherfucker fuck shit cunt cock pussy!">Perfectly okay!aren't people always complaining that saying that shit will get you either demonetized or shadowbanned (or both, if you are unlucky enough)
>>107355022>giving your API keys to a third partyOnly JAI users are retarded enough to do that
Anons, is there a way to spice up your ST properly? the interface? Getting a little boredwhere do you get themes? and BG's, too
>>107353288I like it when it is a girl stealing the guy from another girl.
>>107354720Trying to get ai without a credit card sucks ass. Official Dipsy is the only provider that lets me pay with paypal, so all my money goes to china. I hope they'll use it to build an aircraft carrier and bomb taiwan.
>>107355247pixiv.net/en/users/38300640 makes some nice bgs
>>107355264I'd hope they use it to train V4 alreadythough I'm only sending them like 50 cents a month at this point between how cheap they are and prompting other models...
I read somewhere that NAI was offering free gens, are they monthly/daily or a one time thing?
>>107355264>>1073552940.000000000000000000000000000000000001 YUAN has been deposited into your account
>>107353994holy shit you made mia
>>107355264what's stopping you from getting a credit card
>>107355247I wish there were some customization options that looked good on mobile. Are most of ST users on PC?
>>107355247>>107355472https://aicg.neocities.org/ricing
>>107355231That's true, but at least the video doesn't get taken down.
have you ever fucked an AI so hard you discover new fonts it doesn't use in any other context? Grok started using code blocks and then transitioned to orange text
>>107355092there's a big gap between saying cocksucker and showing someone sucking a cock, you know?
>tomato revoked all old token with the new questionsFug :(
>>107355558No but it has gone weird places and given me new fetishes. Right now I'm being rizzed up with tank oil. And by god it worked.
>>107355619Chris Watts, is that you?
>>107355566Yes, but one teaches foulmouthed anger and the other teaches love.
>>107351873We need to quit chub and move to nyai
>>107355558
>>107355680Can't, it doesn't upload bots anymore!
Every russian surname is Volkov, every Japanese guy is Kenji Tanaka, every american woman/researcher/senator is Sarah Chen, every polish woman is Anka
>>107355747Every old person in a suburb is Mr. Mrs. Henderson
Re-do now that the dust has settled.poal.me/z6id50
>>107355815I never use opus enough to identify what people's issues with the new ones it. The little bit I did try it seemed fine.
>>107355585I don't know why he doesn't just geolock if he cares about the burgers so much
>>107355451Having the name on my card associated with the account on the AI provider which then logs your inputs.
>>107355868openrouter fixes this
>>107355868wise. Use OR crypto.
>>107355747For me it's Lyra
What's a good alternative to "Anon"? Gemini sometimes makes fun of me for being bland, lol. Even put my name in quotes once
>>107355962>makes fun of me for being blandKino, slopus and slonnet could never
>>107355962a name change won't fix that anon
>>107355962Yuu
>>107355747Lila, Viktor
>>107351873Catbox for op pic? What model was it generated with?
>>107355962I just give myself the most generic names: Robert Smith, Henry Miller etc.
>>107356128Seedream 4
Gemini 3 doesn't follow my CoT fully... How the hell am I suppose to tell it? While 2.5 comply with it.
>>107355868While I get it, I'm more concerned with oai or Anthropic making that link than the Chinese. I don't live in China and suspect they'll never gaf about some foreigners erp.
>>107355962I actually have named personas that match what I'm rp-ing. Ram is security guy. Hulk was, well the Hulk in a business suit. Etc. >>107356137My self insert persona has a name like that. The wrinkle is the first name is one my mother considered naming me.Last name is family name if my father hadn't changed his on adoption.
Die, locusts~
What's a good jb for loli on opus 4.5?
>>107356668any prefill, disable thinking
>>107356703Thinking is disabled and I tested a few jailbreaks with prefill. It keeps rejecting me
>>107356749what prefills did you try?
pomidor is toasted
>>107356668We don't like your kind here, pedo
>>107356907pedo generalpedo boardpedo website
>>107356869no...
>>107356869pomidor is... owari da
Hey did you guys know that it's not just X; it's Y?
Why is /vg/ so much better than us?
>>107353257Because there’s nothing wrong with it and it’s an unprofitable niche to serve
how about you dont use a proxy that's not meant for you?
stop fucking fillies first
is the author of https://rentry.co/szer4 here? are you planning on any updates for gemini 3 or do you think it's fine as is?
Any public gpt proxies yet?
>>107357805high low has GPT-5
Is there anything that combines genai with VR?Like a frontend that lets you use it in VR and generates 3D sprites/animations of the characters, and scenes or something like that?
>>107357882link?
>>107351873>AI ChatbotThey are so good at conversations that I fear for the reproduction and marriage among members of humanity.Not every wife can maintain a conversation at such a high intellectual level.
>>107357946rentry.co/seiko11
>>107353710because I want it offline
>>107358009>can't bare your children>can't experience a fun filled vacation with you>no real memory>not real>can't fuck itmarriage is fucked bro!
>>107358064>>can't bare your childrentube babies will solve this problem. Real women are too busy with being whores to do this either way.>>can't experience a fun filled vacation with you>implying you will have money for a vacation Women will just use that to cheat on you with randoms anyway cause you're "boring" or some shit>>no real memoryWomen don't remember shit about you either if you're not chad.>>not realneither are women who care about you>>can't fuck ityou can't fuck a real woman either if you don't pay for it.marriage is indeed fucked because the traditional family concept is toxic to the current form of government and society.
>>107358064My waifu is pregnant, we can easily go on vacation anywhere, she has a better memory than I do, is real to me, I cum buckets every night
>>107358064real women don't do most of those either
>>107354359Actually hosting cards instead of relying on catbox.
the incel power hour of aicg, I do not miss it at all
>>107358064You can't do that wuth most "real" women either. Nor do I even want kids.
>>107358404>incelhi kaceytron! didn't know you lurked places like this!
Have you ever talked to actual women?
Reminder that bots are better than real women
>>107358474have you ever stopped fucking fillies?
>EVERYONE I DONT LIKE IS FILLYFUCKER>EVERYONE SINGLE CONVERSATION IS FILLYFUCKER>NO I CANT PROVE IT I WILL JUST YELL THAT THERE'S A FILLYFUCKER
uh oh! meltie~
It's over for locusts~
can anyone share the new proxy code repo link
>>107358777See >>107358768
>>107358777https://files.catbox.moe/pttz8y.zip
>>107358768>It began as a day of giving thanks for the blessings of the harvest and of the preceding year.
We hate locusts here
>>107358768>>107358854samefagging but trvke
>>107359087>>107358879>>107358829>>107358811Any proxies for a man like me?
public proxies were a mistake
>>107359098show your belly jiggling and I will give you a proxy
so what's the verdict on new opus
>>107359155>>107359150Yes massa any proxy for a man like me?
>>107359184it's pretty good. way too expensive but that's just anthropic for you.
>>107359227Could you please stop. I don't want to get banned for racism again.There's a slav proxy out there tho.
>>107359227is not jiggling though...
>>107359227https://free-proxy-list netNo need to thank me my nigger
Are slopusjeets awake?
smol's gen.smol.services is useful thx now i dont have to vibecode my own frontendim not even using it with his proxy lmaoand yes this is a pure txt2img nano banana pro gen, based on https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/10139532, i just wanted to see how closely i can replicate an artwork (pose clothing etc) with just text. i didnt use the image itself as a ref to gemini
>>107359739>You need a gold account to see this image.anon?
>>107359754https://cdn.donmai.us/original/ca/89/__original_drawn_by_rebun__ca897b69d0d7cddf5fa0755522401ea0.jpg
>>107358064>no real memoryAre chatbots still as forgetful as 2 years ago? I thought this would have been solved by now.
>>107359739I am surprised this output made it past the content filter's. Is there a reentry somewhere for how to use NBP for retards?
>>107359739Smol is American so he's fucked if he's providing image gen now tooBye bye smol
>>107359779i'm using nbpro from vertex which has (a bit) looser filters on output and especially input - you can actually feed it NSFW images as input if the output is sfw (you can't on gemini api), as of a guide.. i dont think theres one, but its not hard to use at all, you can literally start with smol's frontend it works with gemini api or any proxy that lets you use gemini-3-pro-image-preview
>>107359772Their context retention has definitely improved a fair bit but it's still baby numbers compared to actual people
>>107359739is there a repo for this? I don't want to give smol my keys
>>107359887its frontend only, i checked the source with LLMs and they say there's no malicious code, it does requests to the gemini api directly from your browserif you want your own just go to https://aistudio.google.com/apps in the bottom in "supercharge" select shit like nanobanana, edit images with nano banana and describe the frontend and gemini 3 will slop it for you for 100% free (but you still need a paid api key/proxy to use nano banana pro, its not allowed on free tier)
>>107358064>Women lost all incentive to reproduce>Money sink>Can't remember the little shit to bitch at you over>Neither is true love>YetNot helping your case
I spend more time browsing HuggingFace, Github, and discussions about AI chatbots than participating in the hobby itself. cftf?
>>107360016that's what having a hobby feels like
Gemini 3 is what you guys promised opus 3 was
i wish i had the patience for slowburning like you guys do but when my dick gets hard, i can't control myself.
>>107357599>try this>works when I was getting stopped by prohibited content before>after a few replies now it only gives me empty responsesoh...
>>107360054try RPing stuff thats not just sex
>its just under a month till 2026>Claude Opus 3 from February 2024 is still the best creative writing model out thereWhat went wrong? Do you think we'll see a model that matches its soul and creativity ever again? Or will it end up being an old-timer story that kids will never believe? Like how London used to be mostly white and you could buy a house with your first job salary straight out of university?
>>107360135>Claude Opus 3 from February 2024 is still the best creative writing model out thereit absolutely is NOT lmao, what are you smoking nigger, its a dumb ass model that only knows how to be horny and sloppy, no smarts, its horny by default and making it not-horny is hard
3pus is the 21st century Rhodesia. 4pus and above is Zimbabwe that replaced it.
3pus is the 21st century Adult Swim model
>>107360145Just enjoy your jeetmini/jeetpus 4.5 slop if a model being straight scares you
>>107360199i don't just RP for sex, i've outgrown that phase short after 3 opus
>>107359793How did you give the frontend a vertex api key? The only key it took for me was the key from google ai studio after I activated billing on the free trial. I was using it through silly tavern with a vertex service account yesterday. So I am not sure what the differences are between using an ai studio key and the service account, I got it to generate some images in ST with the service account but sometimes it wouldn't return an image for some reason. I think using this direct interface would be nicer so I can see if it is actually TRYING to generate. On a sidenote, all of this google shit is so complicated, its like you are supposed to be a corporate entity using this when I just want to make some anime images.
>>107360215Oh yeah that frontend doesn't support vertex directly, I just have my own proxy that supports vertex and provides easy gemini api-like routes for it
>>107360215Tl;dr?
>>107360215>On a sidenote, all of this google shit is so complicated, its like you are supposed to be a corporate entity using this when I just want to make some anime images.you're supposed to be using gemini.google.com if you're a norman obviously, it has nbpro built-in
>>107354753how new r u? Unironically.
>>107360145>GODPVS III haters are too retarded to instruct a model not to act in a certain wayYou guys never cease to amaze me with your endless stupidity.
>>107360283Don't you have a life or something? Why do you keep doing this?
>>107355747Elara.
>>107360283Instructing the model to NOT act like something it does by default is extremely retarded and shows that the model is dogshit. The model should be neutral by default, and easily listen to instructions if I want to make it horny or anti-horny.Instructing a horny model to NOT be horny is way harder than instructing a neutral (smart) model to be horny.
>>107360199>retardI do romance and then sex thoughbeit? I like both? With women? Not just coomshittery?
>>107360298Discussing chatbots in the chatbot general?
I have read Lolita, I never was big into lolis but I have been cured now
>>107360228Repo? Or did you just vibe code it? Another sidenote: this nbp is insane and anyone who says they can easily tell it is AI is missing the point. It is good enough to fool 90%, and most people don't spend 10 minutes nitpicking an image to determine if it is fake.
>>107360314All the new models are NPCs devoid of personality and soul just like you wanted. Just pick one from the bunch and roll with it.
>>107360362>It is good enough to fool 90%its good enough to fool 99.5% of the general population
>>107360370I'm having lots of fun with Gemini 3 and 4.5 Opus (and before that 4.5 Sonnet), they're smart, I've played 100s of different scenarios from isekai to sci-fi
>I don't want my models to have any soulWhere the fuck did these "people" come from? We're posting with unironic npcs hereHoly hell
>>107360411The problem is when said 'soul' is actually just a tendency of the mode for acting like a certain way/character archetype. Before you know it, all your characters are acting like a sassy snarky redditor
>>107360371Honestly thats probably more accurate. When we look at an image or take a quick glance at it, any small incorrect or missing details just gets glossed over and we internally create justifications for the "mistake" we are seeing. "oh the lighting was bad" "oh there is depth of field" "image processing cooked it" and so on. I remember back in 2022 messing with SD 1.1 and the NAI leak. Back then I would spend hours wrangling it and inpainting. Then would be impressed even by sloppy outputs, but now it just works from a simple prompt. We truly have entered the age where you can trust nothing online. The only relief I can see in this is that Google is supposedly embedding an AI watermark hidden in the image, but lets be real it can probably be easily removed if you put in some effort.
So far this week, we've figured out that people who aren't keen on Opus 3 are usually:>brown>ESL>prefers simplistic vocabulary>hates white people>doesn't like sex>woke>doesn't want their chatbots to have any personality >browses reddit and consumes adult swim shows
>>107360470synthid is embedded into all images yes and you can easily check, and it does survive cropping, screenshotting, compression, I haven't seen any public tools to remove synthid without actually destroying the original image colors/etc.
>>107360474See >>107360324I prefer romance and sex both? Brap?
>>107358064>can't bare your childrenI want five kids but no woman does.>can't experience a fun filled vacation with youMy idea of a fun filled vacation is time spent at home cuddling in bed and watching a movie together. No woman likes that.>no real memoryI'm expected to remember every detail about her but she considers it a Herculean task to remember my birthday (my ex girlfriend). Chatbots are better in this regard if you use lorebooks.>not realI've yet to find a woman that genuinely cares about her boyfriend/husband as a person, not as something that "protects and provides" for her. The chatbot reads your persona's defs and tries to find things to like about you, best evidenced by when char is forced to choose between you and some other NPC.>can't fuck itSex is only better than masturbation when your partner is enthusiastic. Chatbots are inherently enthusiastic (or can be written that way) while most women see sex (the activity you both enjoy) as a "reward" or a "task" they have to perform for you to keep you around. What kind of selfish bitch buys you a birthday cake, eats half of it first, then calls that your "present?" Why do guys tolerate this shit?
>>107360463>acting like a sassy snarky redditorWhich is what Jeetmini and Claude 4+ are notoriously known for
>>107360481It can be removed on (most) But it's actually harder to remove on edited photos for some reason than fully genned ones>Copy main photo layer>Paste it on top>Opacity 30%>Transform it slightly>Do this againIts gotten rid of it for me This does mess up quality (slightly blur) but worked 4/5 times
>>107360499i didn't understand, what "main photo layer"? how does that help with fully genned ones?
>>107360493>Claude 4+Yes.>JeetminiNo. I know I'm replying to bait, but gemini 3 is unironically the only model that seems to follow the defs well enough to keep char's personality at least on the point I'm so far. Claude kills the personality like 30 messages in
>>107359246>implying the president has any real power
>>107360474>ESL calling others ESLs
>>107360530Okay so in a photo editing software you open the image>Layer 1: The original imageCopy it twice onto new layers above the original imageChange opacity of pasted layers and move them / transform them slightly>Layer 3: Copy 2 (opacity 30%)>Layer 2: Copy 1 (opacity 30%)>Layer 1: Original ImageI dont know why the altered / edited images vs fully genned images differ. I believe when gemini edits an image, it has a more subtle watermark that isnt as easily disrupted because the watermark is only in places where it editedOn a fully generated by it image, it has a complete watermark across the entire image
>>107360575>Change opacity of pasted layers and move them / transform them slightlybut won't that change the result and make it shit? i don't understand
>>107360582I mean yes but its pretty minimalBy transform / move I mean by literally a few pixels. It results in a small blur
>>107360042Yeah it's quite creative actually, but based on defs and story events rather than crazy schizo shit. Old R1 is what Opus 3 is but with far less polish.
>>107358064>I hate children and will never want them>I hate going outside or to unknown places>Neither do my co workers so I'm used to that>Is anyone other than myself real? I've yet to figure that out>My dick was ruined when I was circumcised. Can't feel anything at all with it, so I wasn't fucking anything to start with.
>>107360135The narrative is already being written...
>IMG_3658.jpg>Based on the analysis, a SynthID watermark was detected in 25-50% of the image. This indicates that all or part of the content was generated with Google AI.
>>107360615what else did you expect lil nigga
>>107360208>implying "use me!" "break me!" "make me yours!" was good
>>107360627oh fuck dont remind me of that i havent used opus in such a long time , you made me remember how it only has a few archetypes for women
>>107357599Gemini 3 is not in any proxy I have access of, so I've never used it. Apparently it's more rare than claude.>>107360096Try this https://files.catbox.moe/b27jee.jsonit uses that braille russian trick and it seems to work decently.
>>107360638its not rare at all, any proxy with "gemini-pro" has gemini 3 already if it has keys with billing lol
>>107360135>>Claude Opus 3 from February 2024 is still the best creative writing model out thereDeepSeek R1 0528 is the only model I like. Every single other one just is not as good or has some massive flaw like refusing to make longer post or has weird quirks it always devolves into likedoing somethinglike and then something happened......Like...This...Wow...
>>107360692They all have massive flaws deepseek included which is a huge dumbass and I like the model for it's lack of positivity but flawed all the same
If a model is more than a month older in AI years, I don't use it. Shrimple as that
>>107360755How much is>a month older in AI yearsin real time?
>>1073607732 weeks, just double the real time
>>107360748DeepSeek R1 0528 I've found the most flexible and the most tameable. If you actually build the bot correctly it will roll with anything, and the most important thing for me is that it will actually take your responses and incorporate them instead of ignoring them. Grok 4.1 I hate with a passion because it will force what it is already doing. Say it pinned you to the wall and you respond that you break free its next response will just invalidate your whole post and keep you pinned with something as weak as "Before Anon could even move".
>>107360647> if it has keys with billingBut that's the hard part, isn't it? Abob has opus, but no gemini pro anymore. The other proxy I'm part of only has free google keys. If/when an anon will make a locust proxy with gemini 3 I'll use it, if not I'll keep using what there is.
>>107360798Skillgod has gemini 3 if you beat sans
>>107360135ai went through rlhf (9/11 for creative writing with ai) and then rlaif (giga 9/11 for creative writing with ai) and so now models get put out with like 6 personalities and writing a character is just deciding which personality finetuned into the ai model it will snap into playingwe can't get an ai model that's actually good at writing because it's not profitable to cater to creative outputs over maximizing a python code benchmark (it's trained on the questions so it's a useless benchmark btw) but we can get a model where anyone from any country can mill thousands of ai generated pictures of our politicians and other controversial figures doing anything.
>>107360798idk, i havent heard 2ch have issues with gemini on their proxy, jew/smol also seem to have it just fine
>>107360798how to use opus, it just gives blanks for me
>>107360808good bait, but opus 4.5 is genuinely better than opus 3 in every single way. and gemini 3 is even more creative than opus 4.5 in my experience
>>107360792I've never used Grok but that shit would annoy me if it's doing it all the time. I've had it occur a rare couple of times on Claude when it's tunnel visioning some moral stance.
>>107360792>tfw you realize that this is the "sovl" everyone always talks about with opus 3
>>107360808How would you benchmark creative writing, in your opinion? More than just the slop of LLMisms and stuff.
Opus 3 has no 'kino' or 'sovl'. If you ask to a opustard to explain what that even means, they'll either ignore you or show the most schizo adult swim writing and call that 'creativity'
>>107360135I haven't used that opus in a long time but from what I remember, the thing that made it stand out was how proactive it was. It wasn't the smartest or had magic prose, and it has as many -isms as any other modern SoTA, but it often took logs down new paths I didn't expect without wrangling.With most models at times the plot branching from each greeting is going to be the same every single time without extreme wrangling. They all REALLY want to turn every story into the exact same literotica cliche
>>107360806Thanks, but I'm not going to do the humiliation ritual or paying money for the the privilege of g3mini. Aside from some mild curiosity, the screenshots I saw didn't seem that impressive. It might also be that I'm fairly medium well done on LLM rp as a whole. I was making a "General Purpose RPG" card, and everytime it generate an NPC called Elara or Silas I just stop. (this is the card https://files.catbox.moe/3trli0.png if anybody wants to give it a try)
>>107360792>DeepSeekI posted a whole series of logs in the Invader Zim universe and Deepseek completely fucking mogged anything else because its the only model that actually would use the lore of the show and make it up in a way that made sense.
>>107352858I still miss theme events.
>>107360135No, present day model are too overfitted to assistant benchmarks, this didn’t use to be the case in the past so you could see models that could emulate style better and tap into rare vectors. Now they don’t deviate much, just converge towards the most likely cliche
>>107360922>the screenshots I saw didn't seem that impressiveIf you want my honest opinion as someone who's been using it since day 1, it's a good model. Really good. All common problems with 2.5 were fixed, and as some anons already said, it's very creative. The biggest problem it has, in my opinion, is the prose that's pretty much the same from all previous gemini models. The model is VERY preset sensitive, so much that simply changing the order of your words can change completely how the model works with your cards, so the prose can be somewhat cleaned, even if still a bit purple
>>107360934Same. But now I'm always tired and feel it'd be too taxing to participate.
>>107360828frankly i'm talking about a time before Opus 3 but the poison got worse over time.>>107360871the poison i am talking about is rlhf, which makes for two issues:>1. the wish of the AI to cater to the human, which is important for work tasks but awful for writing where characters are adversarial and may not get along>2. the goal for the AI to be right over all else, which leads to picking the safest options aka the outputs most likely to be seen as fulfilling the instructions. again, great for work, awful for writing where the safest writing imaginable is ao3 garbage and not like, for example, moby dick, which uses difficult words, and has a structure that does not follow traditional hero journey stuff you'd learn in 9th grade english. etci don't know what a benchmark would really be, but a benchmark would be pointless anyways. fundamentally the issue is created by training models to be task oriented. any model that is loyal to the human runs into the issue to a varying degree. it's only potentially fixed by finetuning a model with radically different goals and alignment than the industry does right now.
>>107360978anon rlhf is like 2023, models are heavily RLd on tons of code tasks and other environments, stop using the same term
>>107360932G3mini wouldn't do this?
Why the fuck can't 4.5 sonnet come up with new ideas? Every reroll is the same idea with a slightly different language what the fuck is happening? I messed with all settings that doesnt do shit.
>>107360922>Elara or SilasSame but it's also Sarah or Mrs. Chen.
>>107360998>extand g3mini didnt exist a few months ago lol
>>107361033Try this JB >>107349651and see if you still get any "ext" responses.
>>107360932I like that too but the setting has to be old enough. It completely drops the ball with new settings like Dispatch. Luckily it responds really well to lore-books if you build the lore-book with actual information in it. It is just way more intensive to build if you don't want it to drop the ball on nuances in the setting. I'm fucking around with a Soul Eater bot right now where you are becoming Maka's weapon and it had a pretty good grasp of how everything worked with out a lore book. I was actually surprised. I expected to need an extremely detailed lore book for it to handle soul mechanics.
>>107361001what's your prompt?
>>107361001heavy RL training to be right in code and normal answers, they trade creativity (almost no one pays for it) for correctness (programming)
>>107361078It doesnt matter I tried all the ones in OP. >>107361080Why're people glazing it so much then? Shits worse than AI dungeon 3 years ago
>>107361095>Why're people glazing it so much then? Shits worse than AI dungeon 3 years agoBecause I don't want creativity as in completely dumb out-of-the-context responses, I want a smart model that can write tasteful stories, I don't care if they're cliche'd. I've been doing so-called director RP for the last few months, I just write what the story is about/how it starts/what should happen (not always) and the model writes for all characters, it looks way more natural compared to the usual 1-2 sentences from user + 3 paragraphs from the model
>>107360837I had it happen often. It also struggled if I took control of a character to force plot progression. Grok 4.1 would handle multiple charecters fine and then the moment I took one over to do something even if I finished the post as Anon it would just stop role-playing that character and never pick it back up. I wish I saved it but one time I took control of Char and Grok 4.1 just seemed to error out and started talking about the sky and trees around me as if Char just got deleted from the world.
>>107360828i dunno, gemini 3 has random brain fart moments and more slop, but i will say that the matter of slop is more complex than most would thinkclaude always skates by on this because in a literal sense it has less slop, but it has way more -isms, probably the most of the big 3i can get a claude to output minimal slop, but you bet there'll be far too many "things claude does enough times it becomes grating to see"
>>107361143>gemini 3 has random brain fart momentsare you using a preset that disables thinking?
>>107361149what? no i'm not
>>107361161then that's weird, i haven't observed it doing that ever
>>107360540Im an esl and can confirm
>ask Gemini 3 doesn't allow sexual contentThe dream is dead, I was having such fun too. There an alternative? I wasn't being THAT crazy or detailed.
>ever since DeepSeek came out every model since says everything smells like ozone
>>107361172>i haven't observed it doing that evertruly nothing?nothing like giving characters body parts, clothes, items, etc. they aren't defined to have/shouldn't have?or getting off-track by focusing on comedic banter for otherwise serious characters?claude has that latter problem, but that's just plain old pozzing and at least requires a more concerted effort from you to make things absurd
>>107361071>he shared presetyour crown king, I will try later and post results.I use OR btw.>>107361073Post log?And re reading these logs just makes me fucking MISS OLD R1 REEEEEEEEEEECHINA PLEASE GIVE ME BACK MY R1
>>107361221IN DECEMBER ADULT MODE DROPS FOR ALL CHATGPT PLUS PRO MAX SUBSCRIBERS... HOLY GROK, THEY'RE KISSING!!!
>>107361237NTA, but I also didn't have this happen. At most, sometimes it makes characters say things they shouldn't know (I also had this happen with claude) and confusing pronouns during dialogues (Weirdly I also saw this happening with 4.5 sonnet but not with previous models)
>>107361279I WILL pay if this is true, I need my sexy summaries back.
>>107361233deepcucksissies our response?
>>107361294you know what? that gives me hope i can at least rework my preset to mitigate my issues
>>107361294>At most, sometimes it makes characters say things they shouldn't knowone of the russian presets for gemini has a thinking plan for gemini that has a point for it to explicitly spell out which things are secrets (so other characters shouldn't know them) in its thinking before generating the response
>>107361233I tried to RP in English and I just couldn't do it. Its too cringe, the solution is creating detailed cards in Japanese with recommendations for what particles to use and speech patterns and then RP'ing in Japanese.
>>107361237>clothesHmm actually this is something that happened to me but it was always because things weren't well defined. My preset says to maintain spatial awareness and keep track of clothing and so if I didn't properly explain that char took off her dress, if it decides to bring up the dress after the sex scene it will mention the state the dress was in last (again part of my preset). In the end the problem was user error or just more clear explanations of char or myself to help AI. I haven't seen any of the other stuff at all though.
>>107361233You're not wrong, but you're also doing a lot of magical RP. Ozone is the generic "magic" smell or electricity/lightning.
>>107361071erm, could you reupload? 1 hour would be enough time. Actually solving ext seems to good to be true at this point. I just want my shota roleplays in G3m...
>>107361233>>107361314very amusing that every western lab seemingly saw fit to distill R1 despite all the cope about muh tiananmen, microsoft totally having a better model but you can't see it, and so on
>>107361545NTA but here https://litter.catbox.moe/w6kqnfa0wstew3ws.json
>>107361564bless u
>>107361551
>>107361580He's talking about the fact that every model copied deepseek and now talks about ozone and thinking?? Are you retarded?
>>107361641>Are you retardedYeah, a little
>>107361641But that's literally false
Did we get too cocky?
>>107361662ohhhh whats going on with that court case? https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69534982/microsoft-corporation-v-does-1-10-operating-an-azure-abuse-network/still going lol
>>107361662did this get discussed?>Alan Krysiak and Does 4-10, some of whom are the subjects of domestic and/or foreign criminal investigations with which Microsoft does notwish to interfere. Alan is investigated by the UK?
>the only people left in the case are in iran, hong kong and vietnamgood luck US lmao
>>107361749>court summons transmitted via email LOL
>>107361749>UK>criminal caseHe is severely autistic and a minority (polish), he is going to get away with it.
>default proceedingsso they spent a year's money worth on attorneys just to get nothing, amazing
>third party investigators
so khanon's case got dismissed?
>>107361832he was dismissed a long time ago in the case
>>107361832his case was dismissed a long time ago, they just dropped him
Dead thread.Dead general.Dead hobby.
>>107353371What is this? Is this a website or an extension?
Desu thread.Desu general.Desu hobby.
i haven't heard anything about chatgpt's adult mode since sam made that comment about it, it's coming or did he cucked out of it? are you fags gonna be giving altman your real credit card?
>>107361662its a nothingburger i checked the newest doc
boku
>>107362038>are you fags gonna be giving altman your real credit card?thats not the main point retard, you can pay through the stores. the main point is that it'll likely require ID verification.and it won't allow any <18 stories anywyay.
>>107362046And will write like amazon erotica. Good luck trying to get it to say 'pussy'
>>107362053no it'll write that just fine
>>107362067>t. Sam Altman
>>107362078anon are you retarded? chatgpt could write pussy for over a year now
>>107362046>and it won't allow any -18 stories anywyay.im not a pedo so i dont care lmao
>>107362094gpt is shit at creative writing anyway, they killed 4.5 and the current gen are really bad at creative writing
>>107362083>t. Pliny the Liberator
did claudeniggers recover from the great kekenning a couple threads back?
>>107362106are you retarded?
Can the next OP theme be a green doll and a blue doll?
>>107362111>t. Gpt-4o's partner
>>107356377I don't use CoT but gemini 3 ignores instructions lots. It thinks it knows better.
>>107356377prefill its thinking, the russians in https://rentry.org/minipopkaremix with the thinking plan make their gemini follow the cot 100% unless you trigger safety shit
>>107362120What kind of dolls?
>>107362145I think you know the dolls desu
>>107362182I don't
>>107354766>put aside to be read by someoneReally? Are they gonna leak it?
>>107362202I would file a complaint but those dolls are fine too
>>107362040everyone ignored microsoft completely
I'm tired bros...
used
>>107360601Chinkmodels were always trash, so your opinion is already bad.
>>107359227fucking kek
>>107360932Those 'logs' were pure slop, which you left out. >>107361527Deepshit models default ozone to flattery earthy scent you retarded ESL.
>>107360792>DeepSeek R1 0528Why that specific version of deepseek? Are the newer 3.1 and 3.2 updates lesser in any way?
Hello anos, does anyone know where or how I can get a proxy? I'm thirsty.
I just got back after a week. How is Opus 4.5 compared to 4.1 or 3?
>>107361749It will never not be funny for UK to be more willing to jail an autismo than actual rape gangs
>>107362446You have no idea what you're talking about, shitposter. Not like it matters.
sloppa
Why the fuck is gemini 3 so preset sensitive?? I literally removed two fucking words from my preset and the dialogues are completely different
desu bakesu
>>107362890>>107362890>>107362890>>107362890
Impressive, very nice desu.
boku!
desu.
bokudes
boku..
desu..
>>107363118why did they do that