Discussion of Free and Open Source Text-to-Image/Video ModelsPrev: >>107354103https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide>UIComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUISwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUIre/Forge/Classic/Neo: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#reforgeclassicneoSD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/sdnextWan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP>Checkpoints, LoRAs, Upscalers, & Workflowshttps://civitai.comhttps://civitaiarchive.com/https://openmodeldb.infohttps://openart.ai/workflows>Tuninghttps://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuninghttps://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerhttps://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tunerhttps://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scriptshttps://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipehttps://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkit>Zhttps://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/z_image/https://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image-Turbo>WanXhttps://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/wan22/>NetaYumehttps://civitai.com/models/1790792?modelVersionId=2298660https://nieta-art.feishu.cn/wiki/RY3GwpT59icIQlkWXEfcCqIMnQd>Chromahttps://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Basehttps://rentry.org/mvu52t46>Illustrioushttps://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girlhttps://tagexplorer.github.io/>MiscLocal Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmetaShare Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/GPU Benchmarks: https://chimolog.co/bto-gpu-stable-diffusion-specs/Img2Prompt: https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-oneTxt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusionArchive: https://rentry.org/sdg-linkBakery: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage>Neighbors>>>/aco/csdg>>>/b/degen>>>/r/realistic+parody>>>/gif/vdg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/h/hdg>>>/trash/slop>>>/vt/vtai>>>/u/udg>Local Text>>>/g/lmg>Maintain Thread Qualityhttps://rentry.org/debo
Z is for Clown Girl 1girls, which i like to gen :)
>>107356595uhm sir wheres the 1girl general??????
A world war 2 war propaganda poster with Hatsune Miku saying "OpenAI is EVIL! Use open source!". Miku is wearing a war uniform and is typing at a retro style computer, in the background is a world war 2 battlefield with explosions and planes.BFL btfo
>NIGBO
Should I get a 5070Ti for 800€, or 5090 for 2400€, for AI genning?
will an abliterated Qwen3 4b work better for nsfw stuff? Qwen models are notoriously censored
Are you ready for the base model?https://xcancel.com/modelscope2022/status/1994315184840822880?s=46
comfy should be dragged out on the street and shot
>>1073566152400 eurodollars
>>107356623>nigbo
>>107356616I tried it and didn't see much of any difference.
>>107356617nope, but I will be when khoya does his thing
>>107356623you don't like Nodes 2.0 and how it fucks up literally everything?
>>1073566151050Ti
I demand footjobs
Hatsune Miku on a box of cereal with the name "Miku-O's". She is standing in a bowl of corn flakes and is pouring a jug of milk onto the corn flakes. The cereal box is on a table in a kitchen in Japan.
>>107356616it doesn't matter how uncensored the text encoder can be, if the transformer model has never seen penis in the training image dataset it won't magically make one (it can do it though)https://civitai.com/images/111842429https://civitai.com/images/111829766https://civitai.com/images/111805412
>here's the frogposter spamming the thread with his shitty gens and prompts
Why is this using 32gb vram?
z-image or flux2
>>107356657>adetailerbro its 2025
>>107356659don't care. Still using Illustrious. Best anime model ever
>>107356659I'm using it to do genitals with zimage.In forge it's a super fast process.
>>107356657>using a detailer process in the Z-image erakek
how is this not slop? it's just a new kind of slop, now with more haze and desaturation
>>107356670>Still using Illustrious. Best anime model everits days are numbered
>>107356678It must be trained on seedream outputs, it has the same style
>>107356617My body is ready
>>107356674>>107356657retards. adetailer is just inpainting. you can use something like chroma to fix the genitals. I've done it and it works nearly perfectly.
>>107356678Real life is slop, now kill yourself
>>107356678why would it be slop? it's really realistic, looks like a movie picture or some shit
what's the difference between prompt enhancing and reasoning? I thought they were the same thing
>>107356632cant have shit bitches be swimming in my soup
baka gaijin
>>107356657catbox please man
>>107356675 #>they can fine tune it on Z-imageIt wont happen. I can generate any hentai artist I like with Illustrious. Im yet to see that level of fidelity anywhere else
>>107356717try to go for some more styles, like ghibli, animal crossing or whatever, that default style will always look bad no matter the model lol
>>107356717>the NPC spamming the most generic gens of the most generic character ever is a nipLol
Zimage."masterpiece, best quality, amazing quality, very aesthetic, absurdres, newest, BREAK (kubo tite \(style\),:1.5), BREAK (film grain:1.5),( bloom:1.5),(raytracing:1.4), Colorful LineArt, lens flare, bokeh, 2d anime, 1girl, standing, sunset,"Nice.>>107356686>>107356674Since it is automated I like it. I fucking hate comfyui for images. Forge is superior, saw that it got an update supporting zimage, or was that planned update?>>107356726Stop gooning.
>>107356734>It wont happen.it's already happening >>107356681
>>107356648It can be relatively easily trained into the model using just a basic loraIt's ENDLESSLY harder when like with Flux, they've actually trained on synthetic data of crotch areas without genitalia, thus poisoning the model for further NSFW finetuning
>>107356741>Stop Gooning.it can be enhanced bro please
>>107356658no frickin way this is ai
>>107356736cute!
Animated with Grok.Can local do this? If so, do you need a 5090 for it? Grok animated images in like 20 seconds.
>>107356741>noisy imageincrease the shift if you feel this is not your taste
>>107356671>needs adetailer>for genitalsThe state of non-SDXL models topkek
>>107356741>sdxl style prompting>BREAK, which is a pony thing>kubo tite, looks nothing like bleach style>bloom in a 2d image>raytracing in a 2d imagewhat the actual fuck
>>107356752>Can local do this?Yes>If so, do you need a 5090 for it?No but you'll probably want a 16GB card at bare minimum
>>107356686you can also use qwen edit + penis lora to replace mutilated genitals with a better one, though chroma adetailer is way better.
>>107356747It's a very generic prompt, you can do it, I believe in you.>>107356753I added the grain on purpose in the prompt.>>107356755READ NIGGA>>107356756I'm testing things out from old gens in illustrious.
>>107356743>random discord screencaps>beating illustrious at its own game (artist mimicry)Don't count your chickens before they are hatched
>>107356752thats pretty tame so yeah
>>107356658>z-image or flux2I mean...
Kek this is more fun than it has any right to be.
>>107356764>It's a very generic prompt, you can do it, I believe in you.bro please i just like your image and its art style a lot PLEASE
>>107356760>>107356768Okay, animate this with local. Catbox it if you need to.
>>107356766>randomit's literally the devs that finetuned illustrious, those are the people you praise, and you call them randoms? :(
>>107356770>celebshitNone, use none.
>>107356774True but sad
>>107356781all right
>8 steps and 36 steps in the bf16 look identical>misspells Patheticokay yeah something's fucked with my comfyui
>>107356774lmao, based>>107356792it can't write "retarded" either, even at 50 steps :(
>>107356802>>107356792Ok, kid.
>>107356780Thing is they wont do it again. NoobAI and Illustrious trained their model on danbooru and stolen artists and you wont see them use such an extensive training set ever again.Hope im wrong. (im not)
>>107356811>Hope im wrong.I also hope you're wrong anon, I'll keep my hopium
"<think> masterpiece, best quality, amazing quality, very aesthetic, absurdres, newest,(kubo tite \(style\),:1.5), (film grain:1.5),( bloom:1.5),(raytracing:1.4), Colorful LineArt, lens flare, bokeh, 2d anime, 1girl, mature, large breasts, looking at viewer, looking at camera, one arm reached out towards viewer, happy grin, gritted teeth, angry eyes, throwing a single brick at the viewer, large brick with motion blur and motion lines, standing, sunset,</think> "Wow, it refuses to look at the viewer.>>107356775Refine your tastes, anon, but here you go: https://files.catbox.moe/4aagtv.png
>>107356788>woman defaults to a bugman on z-imageDoA
>>107356792>8 steps and 36 steps in the bf16 look identicalIt's an LCM distill model. They converge fast and for the most part stop improving after that.As long as it's not a carbon copy that can be normal.>misspells PatheticIt's good with text but can still make occasional mistakes, especially for longer text.
>>107356821>>107356256
>>107356811>and you wont see them use such an extensive training set ever againWhy not?
So... is this the correct order now?Z-Image > Chroma1-HD > Flux 1 > SDXL
>>107356811If it's going to happen again, it will happen on a relatively cheap model to finetune, like Z-Image
>>107356828Yeah, for absolute failgens
>>107356828chroma still has its use case since it can do sex positions, I really wonder what lodestone thinks of the Z-image model, maybe he could try to finetune the base model?
>>107356828Z-Image > Chroma1-HD > SDXL > Flux 1
>>107356831They wont use stolen art like they used to. It will just never live up to SDXL. Long are the days of making a girl get a rape gangbang by a pack of feral dogs in Asanagi style.
>>107356841this, flux 1 is completly useless since Z-image can do everything it does but better
>>107356825Not saying the other anon is not retarded but so far every chinese model I've used always defaulted to european when you use man or woman.Wan 2.2, Qwen image, Hunyuan video, etc.From my limited test with Z-image it does default to european as well most of the time.
>>107356843Why?
>>107356821It tends to alter between white and Asian across seeds when you don't specify race.Plus, you know you can always clarify it to TE when it is important.Impressive attempt to grasp at straws BFL-tranny but still no one is going to use your bloated and censored garbage model.
>>107356828SFWZ-Image-Turbo > Qwen > Chroma > Flux > SDXLNSFWZ-Image-Turbo > Chroma > Qwen > SDXL > FluxImo, Chroma's quality is comparable to Z. The major downfall it had was mangled hands/fix, prompt adherence and often produced body horror. Z fixes all those issues.
>>107356821>oh no, it default to asian people, should I add "white woman" to fix it? nah, let's go for flux 2 and download 50 gb worth of plastic filessays no one ever
>>107356864Chroma absolutely bodies Z-image in NSFW and text insertion, so its tit for tat
>>107356843Not a huge corporation, but 'community' driven projects still can, like all the SDXL derivatives we are discussing.
>>107356881to be fair that tranny isn't shitting itself and is calmly reading the book, sounds like he's on the verge of saving kek
>>107356822The logic doesn't square up. So picrel is me dragging and dropping gens from the 26th that look perfectly fine right? Total run of the mill node setup. So, this looks good..
>>107356886Well, lets see it happen. I dont care about photographs of bland shit happening in real life. I care about hentai and nsfw, illustrious is still K I N G.
>>107356886since the base model will have negative prompting, let's hope that it'll remove the background blur is you write "bokeh" on the negatives
>>107356873yeah I meant to swap chroma with z image as it's still the best for nsfw.
>>107356893but what the fuck is this shit? same settings, slightly different node setup but essentially the same from a few moments ago.cumfart runs on the tears of autistic men and black magic. it doesn't square.but whatever my issue is "Fixed" so time to go on a SPREE
>>107356895that's literally what i did in this >>107356481I put depth of field, bokeh and blurry in the negatives.
here's some styles you can use to spice it up
>>107356906>I put depth of field, bokeh and blurry in the negatives.what? turbo is working at cfg 1 so you can't use negatives
>>107356910Thank you anon!
>>107356924yes
>>107356901and finally here's that prompt with the node setup from the goth girl imagealso i should note one thing; i DID do something slightly different from all those fucked gens like that pic; I completely bypassed the shift node. These images are default shift, euler simple cfg 1 9 steps, at 1080p. I think shift does fuck up the results, given that's the only outlier here.
>>107356919I set the CFG to 4 and increased the steps to 40. This is the same image without dof/bokeh in the negatives.
https://github.com/pyros-projects/diffusion-pipeFork Note: This fork adds support for Longcat and Z-Image models.Let’s go?
>>107356924but not doing the things you want them to
>>107356910>in a dark fantasy oil painting, Zdzisław Beksiński influence, surreal architecture, eerie atmosphere:>Princess Zelda is eating pop corn in a Restauranthttps://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1p8rkqx/styles_with_z_images/
>>107356919You can raise CFG and use negatives to some extent
>>107356929>and that image at 3.5 cfg scale
>>107356770why do people generated with flux models have that plastic skin?
>>107356930I'm glad that using bokeh in the negative seems to work but it's a bit burned, I'll wait for the base model to tinker with that
>>107356957Because they trained primarily on synthetic (AI generated) images
>>107356778i'm pretty sure grok animate is using wan as a base considering most of it's is not only has the limits of wan but wan 2.1this was done by a 5070ti locally and wan 2.2
>>107356931Hmm... need to run some tests. Might as well rent an A100 for a few hours
zimage really captures the essence of india, huh?
>>107356978too clean
>>107356820Many thanks, my friend.
>>107356957i hate to do you like this but the thought of this meme made me lol
>>107356811Isn't NAI pretty much training with danbooru everytime? Mind you they won't open source V3 anytime soon, but they still train on stolen artists and porn, that's litteraly the only way for them to stay aliveWhich makes me wonder, why not ask NAI if Ali want tags, since they have the most up to date dataset
>Do we have base yet?>Do we have base yet?>Do we have base yet?>Do we have base yet?
>>107356984getting closer:
>>107357003he's literally me
>>107356995kek
>>107357003next week
cheers to open source lads!
Imagine if this model gets a proper anime nsfw finetune
>>107357017
>>107357017whoa, they actually did it
>>107356931Interesting, you CAN train on distilled models (Flux dev was distilled after all) but people thought it would be difficult with Turbo since it uses a new novel distillation method.
>>107357030HOLY SHIT
>>107356936and they said it was a model only focused on realism and that we shouldn't expect good result on artistic shit, yet it's pretty good at that as well, can't wait for the base model, this shit will be absolutely amazing
a plate of tiramisu on a table with a silver spoon beside it.that looks fucking good.
>>1073570032 more weeks
>>107357017>>107357030>>107357033>>107357037I don't get it, what's so special about those images?
>>107357029>was btfo by chroma>then btfo by qwen>then btfo 3x by zitthe absolute destruction
>>107357041default workflow, shift 7 (anon said 7 was good and it works)
>>107357049AI is really bad at drawing a glass of wine half full. It always tries to over or under fill the glass.
I haven't genned since Noob. From what people are posting, this model feels like magic for the size. Like what I expected from a modern model, unlike Flux and other bloatmaxxers. I'm so happy we're back.
>>107357040Imagine the flood of lorashhnnnggg
>>107356974Nice, how long did it take?
>>107357059The opposite. AI can't gen a full glass of wine because there's almost no images of full glasses of wine.
>>107357060Local is back like never before
>>107357060>Like what I expected from a modern model, unlike Flux and other bloatmaxxers.Ikr, I thought I was going crazy when those companies said that they were improving the technology by LayerMaxxing, you don't improve shit by doing that you're just using the scaling law that applies to all AI models, real improvement comes when you get better results at the same size!
>>107357065480 sec
>>107357060Noob called do cool stuff like bestiality bukkakes in asanagi style. This cant.
A closeup of several flavors of gelato at an italian ice cream shop, behind a pane of glass.
>>107357079could*
>>107357079>Noob called do cool stuff like bestiality bukkakes in asanagi style>your brain on furry porn
>>107357079Obviously?
>>107357003>baseI'm more hyped by the edit model personally, infinite characters in your hands with just input images
fancy!
>>107357084AI was made for unhinged smut. I denounce qwen, flux and now Z-image for this normative direction they took. I praise chroma tho.
>>107357081>>107357093Ugh, I'm hungry. Even though it's cold, I still want ice cream.
>>107356739no he's just really autistic
>>107357041>>107357081Are you guys asking AI what to proompt for?
>>107357092Just watch television? Just because you can gen something doesn't mean it should exist in the first place. Like that purple witch guy, he has been posting the same gen for 3 years straight now. It's a cool gen but, really?
>>107357099Kek
>>107357105What do you mean?
When are we getting thinking feature with comfyui?
>>107357092>I'm more hyped by the edit model personallynot gonna lie the edit model will make Qwen Image Edit irrelevant since you won't get plastic humans in your gens anymore
kek someone's activated their bot. schizophrenic off topic responses are now being sent out. just don't respond if it literally doesn't make sense >>107357105
>>107357116Can't think on your own ? Pathetic
>>107357122Seems like you are butthurt.
>>107357133Seems like you are retarded.
>>107357109Always funny to see your pre-baked "reaction".
>>107357144?
>>107357007I always thought this was just a 4chan meme but the country actually is fucking filthy. An acquaintance of my mom went there and he said getting out of the plane was the worst air he'd ever breathed.He gave my mom a scarf as a souvenir from there and that thing still smelled awful a month later.
and the country bumpkin's name? Charlotte.
>>107357084First day here?
>>107357161>my momOk. Aren't you supposed to be in the school right now?
>>107357161>I always thought this was just a 4chan meme but the country actually is fucking filthy.understatement of the year https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WsPZC1-TLo
>>107357170nta but what do you call your mom?
>>107357170>I don't have a mothersorry for your loss
>>107357175I don't understand your English.
>>107357161>I always thought this was just a 4chan memeYou can use google street view or watch youtube videos and see the reality yourself, jeets always have been the same, they've ruined even the things built in the british colonial times.I swear to god zoomers are braindead.
>>107357185What do you mean?
>>107357078How long would it take on a 5090?
>>107357173>jeets throwing literal shit around>only wears goggles and nothing to cover his mouth>screams with his mouth wide openIs he retarded
>>107356931>Fork Note: This fork adds support for Longcat and Z-Image models.Pointless. Need base model for decent training.
>>107357187I'm 37, don't think that qualifies as zoomer. I've just never been interested in India. All I really knew about the country was that they have the worst goddamn accent in the world so I didn't want to know anything else, either.
>>107357198honestly amazed he didn't get an infection or something from that fact
>>107357193dunno someone on reddit says a 5090 said this>I made a 880x1056 3 second vid in 132.2 seconds with my 5090. Maxing out the vram at 30.5gb though. 26.22s/it. >Edit: 5 seconds is 210 seconds. Using gguf q8 14b
https://ltx2countdown.vercel.app/>LTX-2 will be released the 11/30/25they should wait a bit desu, all the attention will go towards Z-image base
>>10735721037 and yet you are here arguing with sub 80 iq american mutts. Congratulations.
>>1073566155090 for 2000euros
>>107356615>Should I get a 5070Ti for 800€that would be a retarded move, 16gb of vram is not enough in this day and age, 24gb is the bare minimum
I'm really surprised how well this distilled model handles CFG, you try to do that on Flux and you get something completly burned
How much will 6090 cost?
>>107357228That's alright. Life's pretty good at the moment and I'm having fun looking what people are doing with the new model. New release days are always entertaining.
>>107357261msrp 3kreal price 4k
>>107356828Wan 2.2 is very underrated as a T2I model
>>107357228>with sub 80 iq american mutts.Stop projecting
>>107357228SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>107357274Those jeets can't run wan 2.2, no wonder nobody knows it fucks the living hell of flux and all the other dogshit t2i.
Btw if anyone is curious about abliterated LLMs for general use, hold on for a week or two as (two) new SOTA methods just started emerging in the past few days and they seem to be legit at decensoring while preserving intelligence. The competing methods were named "Heretic" and "MPOA (Magnitude-Preserving Othogonalized Ablation, AKA norm-preserving biprojected abliteration)" or "Derestricted" (called as such by a different model maker). The authors of these have said some things about improvements still to be made, so hold on, but for now >https://huggingface.co/ArliAI/GLM-4.5-Air-Derestrictedis getting good feedback. There's also>https://huggingface.co/mradermacher/gemma-3-12b-it-norm-preserved-biprojected-abliterated-GGUFAnd there's a bunch of Heretic variants of models, just search Heretic on HF. There's quite a few as it has an easy to use tool to make these abliterations. The author of the tool has also said he'll integrate support for the MPOA method.
>>107357312man, the truth is my dopamine receptors are fucking destroyed. I need fast gens, NOW
>>107357320this will be useful when you'll ask the text encoder of Z-image to do some reasoning so that it won't do the cucked "I'm sorry I can't help you with that" bullshit
>parenthesis are turning into 9's and 0's..did comfy really break the emphasis feature? Am i going insaaane?
>>107357320Seems cool.
>>107357274it's worse than Z-image and it's 2 giant 14b model you have to run, I'm good
GOD this model's realism slaps my fucking dick and calls me jane
man, there isnt a single nodepack that interfaces with llama.cpp in a good manner, it's all fucking garbage, it either leaves the vram fucked or its only partially implemented to work with whats it qwen3vl.I'm unironically going to write my own wrapper, which will let you pass all the params you want.FUCK
>>1073566155090 if you can afford it, nothing will beat it consumer wise before at least 2027.
>>107357349Ask Gemini to do it for you lol.
>>107357348how did you manage to get so little background blur?
>>107357320>derestrictedwhat was wrong with MPOA? also do we have benchs for MPOA vs Heretic for same models?
>>107357320>And there's a bunch of Heretic variants of models, just search Heretic on HF. There's quite a few as it has an easy to use tool to make these abliterations.Already tried those but no way/nodes to load them in comfyui
>>107357366im not prompting for focus or DOF either way, its kind of a diceroll.
>>107357369>what was wrong with MPOA?it made the model more retarded, such was the fate of all "uncucked" models
I'll wait for base model to use clownshark samplers, it's always inferior to euler/simple with the turbo model.
I need z-image edit yesterday
>>107357348This is so generic it could've been done with SDXL. Seriously, heavy make-up bimbos with perfect skin isn't anything remotely interesting. Fuck off.
>>107356828Qwen Image with your personal Lora > Chroma v48 > Chroma-HD > NoobAI > Illust > Z-Image Turbo > SDXL > All other dead models
>>107357345This
>>107356710it's the same thing
>>107357375no I mean why didnt the model maker call it MPOA instead of derestricted, can you read bro? also abliteration done this way was shown to augment intelligence in benches
>>107357380you don't need the clown sampler to utilize res_3s/bong_tangent, you know that right?
>>107357386Completely wrong.
>>107357386>Qwen Imageplastic smooth skin shit
>>107357392>I mean why didnt the model maker call it MPOA instead of derestrictedare you retarded? no one care about the method used, do you call the Z-image model by its training method's name?
z-image has sameface syndrome
>>107357414it knows ethnicities very well, but it seems certain tags/prompts will fuck up accuracy or lean it more towards instagram whores. my gen here for example >>107357348is going through like 2 iterations of prompt trimming/changing certain words to try and get a more unique face out of it. Difficult, but doable.https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1p83wgf/zimage_test_on_126_portrait_prompts/
>>107357173that's just folklore shit, main issue is the bad sanitation country wide and general lack of hygiene, and also trash everywhere polluting everything
>>107357406Chinese basketball saarsKEK
>>107357411man you're a special kind of stupid, you can find models with MPOA in the name in HF, which is the official designation by the author of the method btw. now instead to find ablit. shit done this way you have to search for 'derestricted' (nice jeety english btw) or 'mpoa'. wanting stuff to be standardized is bad now?you can also search for heretic, and you will find all heretic ablit. models in HF.kys
>>107357393no but does that matter if it's the same sampler?
>>107357406That's why I said with lora of what you likeYou can also swap anime models and realism models in my list if you primarily like anime but its harder to get good realism and i prefer that moreNo model is perfect but Chroma is the only one that can gen diverse believeable outputs that has the highest high when it hits the jackpot, at a cost of some body horror and more completely unusable gens every few images, but if you found the prompt you want, care about hot, unique but still realistic 1girls and dont care about gen time there is nothing better when it comes to base models.
>>107357432the previous methods were literally called "abliterated", they didn't call them by the uncucking method math shit algorithm, you're so fucking braindead it hurts, how are you still surviving with this tiny brain?
>>107357369The guy who used the MPOA method and called it Derestricted did so when the original author hadn't come up with the MPOA name yet.
>>107357320Oh this is great, abliteration is nice but it makes models dumber.
>>107357320I hope someone makes an abliterated kimi k2 thinking version
>>107357472would so hard
>>107357320perfect timing desu, making qwen 3 4b uncucked will be very important yeah
>>107357384This but unironically. >ohmygod my fully clother 1girl im coomingKILL YOURSELVES YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO AI
it's so good at hands, damn
>>107357384>>107357510>He replies to himself minutes later to seem a little less sussyyet that distinctive brown butthurt is unmistakable.
It seems to understand video game graphics but has an annoying habit of forcing in the console logo if you mention it at all.
>>107357518Take your pills butthurt faggot
>>107357519not bad at all, prompt?
>it runs on anything
>>107357528It's just "Screenshot in the style of PS2 video game featuring a man standing in a gritty urban city at night, with a game overlay and HP bar."
>>107357369>also do we have benchs for MPOA vs Heretic for same modelsAs far as I'm aware, not yet, but the Heretic tool seems to output two measures that are put into model cards, refusal rate, which is self explanatory, and KL divergence, which is basically how far the token probabilities of the model differ from that of the original. KLD should be low ideally but there is some belief that an ideal abliteration should make a model smarter, and thus have a higher KLD, so it's an open question currently until heavy benchmarks are done. KLD is much easier to measure so that has just come first.
>>107357518Nope. Sorry, you're just an uninteresting gooner. Move along.
https://files.catbox.moe/hsr35g.jpg
So is SDXL still the best local model out there with all the LORA training you can do locally and control nets?
>>107357580>jpgFUCK YOU FUCK YOUUUUUUUU FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>107357479who wouldn't
>>107357535>the VRAMchads and the VRAMlets all enjoy that modelbased
A slender prepubescent girl with blonde hair stands outdoors at night, positioned in a three-quarter view toward the camera. Her skin is coated with oil, creating a reflective sheen that catches the moonlight. Her feet are positioned slightly apart on smooth river rocks, soles and toes visible. The pose is static and formal, with her hands relaxed at her side. Her head is turned in profile, looking toward the horizon.The setting is a secluded forest clearing under a clear night sky. A single moonlight source illuminates from above and to the left, creating strong rim lighting along the contours of her body and highlighting the oily texture of her skin. The background shows softly blurred tree silhouettes and patches of night sky with faint stars. The foreground features sharp focus on her feet and the wet, dark stones beneath them. The overall palette consists of deep blue-black shadows, cool silver moonlight, and warm golden highlights on the skin. The atmosphere is quiet and still, with no visible artificial light sources.
>>107357583sdxl hasn't been the best model for a long time, easiest maybe
Niggas spend their day generating instagram roastie pics and have the gall to say local AI isnt dead. Its over. SDXL was the peak, now its all downfall.
>>107357600
>>107357580Hnnnnng>>107357583It is being dethroned rapidly by Z-Image but for the time being yes.
z image turbo is based on what foundation? Flux? Or is it built from the ground up?
>>107357604Generate a girl taking up 3 horsecocks in nakamura regura style in your slopmodel
>>107357612It's a modified Lumina 2
>>107357604So what's the best for running locally but also being able to train your own LORAs and control nets and other shit
>>107357612>>107357620To clarify: the model architecture is a modified Lumina 2. It's trained from scratch.
>>107357616>not haisonShit taste.
>>107357629>>107357620Its over. The worst anime model ever but now in real life. SDXL eternal king of hentai.
Challenge: Gen a wine glass completely full, T2I only.Z-Image fails the wine test.Flux fails the wine test.Qwen fails the wine test.Chroma fails the wine test. SDXL fails the wine test.
>>107357629>the model architecture is a modified Lumina 2.damn, didn't know lumina 2 had so much potential
>>107357345>it's worse than Z-imageFor realism? I think Wan 2.2 is better, it's not great with art styles though like it's really ugly generic anime style>it's 2 giant 14b model you have to runYou just use the low noise model for t2i and lightning loras work fine
>>107357646As always the devil is always in the detail (tagging)
>Noobai v-pred Rectified Flow>https://huggingface.co/CabalResearch/NoobAI-RectifiedFlow-ExperimentalMight be ok
>>107357643what about nanobbc?
>>107357638This dude draws basic as fuck
>>107357643Nano Banana Pro failed it too
>>107357654>cabaloy vey
>>107357659It failed. No AI model can do it.
>>107357654too late, now everyone will finetune on Z-image base
>>107357654colors look terrible compared to basic noobai
>>107357651>As always the devil is always in the detail (tagging)What about it? How did they tag?
>>107357654Is this related to this?https://huggingface.co/Bluvoll/Experimental_EQ-VAE_NoobAI_tests/blob/main/NoobAI-RectifiedFlow-test-step486k.safetensorsI tried some time ago.It's surprisingly stable but still a bit unstable and didn't bring too much to the table.
For those who want to get the rewrite prompt shit on Z-image you can use this tutorialhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbRiR9pqlosthe prompt systel is this onehttps://huggingface.co/spaces/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image-Turbo/blob/main/pe.py
>>107356648how did he train this lora? i want to get in
Trying to mix realism and anime is so volatile on zimage.
>>107357643AIs are just weird, man. The simplest concepts are the hardest.
>>107357663cute as fuck*
>>107357380seems to work ok. what's the issue?
>>107357716he didn't use any lora, he got lucky (and used chinese prompt to increase his chances), you can use its prompt from civitai and see if it works for you too
>>107357707Skimming through it is by the same team I don't think it added much over the previous iteration.Though nice proof of concept for eq-vae and rectified flow retrofitting to SDXL(alongside BigAsp)
>>107357739>and used chinese prompt to increase his chancesliteral snake oil
>>107357731I dont like cunny I like milfu woman (doing the unholy)
>>107357758>literal snake oilme when I lie
>>107357783>translated in chinese>inYou should've used an LLM to translate your labels as well.
>>107357729No one fills cups/glasses completely full to the brim so I guess the data just doesn't exist.
>>107357783your translation reordered the prompt dipshit
>>107357802>dipshitdebo's favorite word
>>107357802you're calling moi a dipshit?
>>107357797What do you mean?
>>107357813hasta la vista, babby
>>107357783The difference is literally statistical in nature, reroll the english prompt a few times and you will get the same.
>>107357800Sure but it shouldn't really need data to set the water level a little higher. It's more like it's so overfit on non-full glasses that those are overpowering it, is what I'm thinking.It's like when LLMs are asked a completely different version of the surgeon riddle and the LLM still gives the stock answer even though it makes no sense anymore.
>>107357274It's also 20x slower vs. Z-Image
>>107357829>y-you just got lucky!holy cope
>>107357838So is Flux but that was listed
>>107357783>a man with short black hairZ-image turbo be like:
How to get rid of z-image fuzziness
>>107357838And using lightx2 with wan2.2 tanks the quality and prompt adherence so hard it's not even comparable to z-image.
>>107357865Acquire SDXL
>>107357865increase the shift >>107352134
This pose was difficult until illustrious arrived.
>>107357839NTA, but you're retarded if you think using Chinese makes any difference. The same bullshit was brought up with WAN2.2. It doesn't matter at all.Even if it somehow did, a shitty AI translation of Chinese is probably going to make the prompt worse, so unless you actually know Mandarin, kindly fuck off with this fud.
>>107357868You realize z-image turbo is also a distilled model right?
>>107357884yes we know cunny brother, but you best delete that ASAP.
>>107357734Grainier than simple euler, it just looks worse while being slower.
I feel like z image turbo has very low variance, especially if you don't change the prompt. Hopefully just a side effect of the distill
>>107357884CP banned
>>107357887That's the point I'm making. ZIT at CFG 1 vs WAN2.2 at CFG 1(Lightx2) = ZIT is superior.
>>107357884uh wtf
>>107357884
I have to admit, z is fucking impressive, knows styles and general knowledge. It's clearly a general model, no characters database, but i can inpaint with another model.(noobai)
>>107357902why are you acting surprised. you dont need to do anything special to get that.
>>107357909We're surprise you're a sick fuck
>>107357885>NTA, but you're retarded if you think using Chinese makes any difference.https://github.com/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image/blob/main/Z_Image_Report.pdf> Z-Image-Turbo also delivers impressive results, scoring 0.917 on the English benchmark and 0.926 on the Chinese benchmarkoops...
how do i not kill myself with 2070 super 8gb taking a minute per ZIT gen?
>>107357913We're? When did you represent the entire general? And do you mean "surprised"? Learn English.
>>107357884>transexual mods are ok with child porn as long as you just link to it and dont attach it directlyreally gets the nogging jogging
>>107357923Look at used 3090s on ebay.
>>107357896I dunno, this looks grainier to me or do I need more steps with euler?
hmmmmmmmmm interestinghttps://civitai.com/models/2172944/z-image-turbo-mixed-fp8?modelVersionId=2446974
>>107357916>no difference on Z-image basethat's a good news
>>107357916A 0.009 difference. Wow you got me Anon. >>107357936Nuh uh. There's a 0.001 difference. You lose.
>>107357935>optimizing VRAM on a 6b modelcome on man...
>>107357936>that's a good newsIsn't that a bad news? Doesn't this mean the base won't be any better than the current turbo?
>>107357935the bf16 is 12gb...
>>107357948lool >>107357923
>>107357950it's better, 0.935 > 0.926
>>107357905Fuck you ranfaggot. You have been posting the same image for three years now, new model won't make you any better. You should stay in your discord or perhaps join nigbo because you deserve each other.
>>107357948>nooo you can't optimize anything>you must buy the latest jewidia silicon
wow a naked child im traumatized.anyway>>107357956these text insertions would look better if the font actually matched the style of that time period instead of looking like someone lazily photoshopped the text in
>>107357971it's catjak. he is just awful altogether no matter the model
>>107357971> these text insertions would look better if the font actually matched the style of that time period instead of looking like someone lazily photoshopped the text in'write the text in a medieval font' check!
>he uses the comfy default promptnot a good look
>>107357944>Wow you got me Anon.I sure got you, the chinese prompt makes it a statistically significant improvement and you can see it on that example too >>107357783now go cry on a corner for what I care, just stop speaking garbage when you don't make even the effort of experimenting shit or reading the paper, dear subhuman anon
I fear the day when we get the full zimage model and I'll spend just as much time trying out style mixes as I did with all of sdxl.
>check civitai for inspiration with z-image and to see what cool things people are making>surely these creative people are pushing the model to its limit and exploring unseen territory.>
>>107358012much better. now its looking legit
>>107357414Agreed but I think that boreal loras will help. I had the same issue with qwen and it's only when I added boreal that I had a wide diversity of faces
>>107358022>most of those images in your example are just the same guy posting different seeds of one prompt
>>107358022wow, it's just like /ldg/!
>>107358026
>>107358029it is, but even filtering them out, it's 95% 1girl slop of asian or bimbo blonde models.
>>107358053wtf is real??
>>107358053nice, now try the bell shaped UFO.
>>107358029>same guy posting different seeds of one promptExact reason most image gen generals on this website suck ass a week after model release.
hahaha
>>107357905>niggas still need to use noobAI to get the actual pic they want>in the year of our lord 2025 (+1)
>>107358022Just find a few people doing interesting things and subscribe. Civit is a giant shithole most of the time.
I'm having too much fun
>>107358062uhm...
z has a really big problem with samefacing and even almost exact gen per prompt with different seeds.
>>107358125nice, now try the bell-end shaped UFO.
>>107358125lol'd>>107358156lol'd harder
>>107358062lel
>>107358053WTF!!!!
>>107358137All base models have problem with sameface, be them local or SAAS, poor seed variance is due to Turbo being distilled and really focused on portrait shots
Oh, that is fried.
>>107356595No matter how much you spam this board, no matter how many models you shitters get, it will never get as good as real art and you will never fill the void with slopping computer-hallucinated garbage. Soon the novelty won't be enough and you're going to kill yourselves.
>>107358295puts my puh-puh-puh-pingas in your mouth
someone got a decently convincing security cam look in Z (NSFW)https://civitai.com/images/111869044
>>107358295>he thinks most use ai for real artcute
>>107358315>https://civitai.com/images/111869044Login to view. No thanks.>>107358308very cool
>>107358315My wife
>>107358295No. This isnt the correct take. The correct take is that art itself peaked with ILLUSTRIOUS and NOOBAI.Remain underfed so called "artist".
>>107358368>>107358368>>107358368
>>107358295Sure thing Sam Altman, the Jewish CEO of OpenAI.
>>107358295Man, I can't wait to fully not pay "artists" and do everything with ai myself.
>>107358295I use local image models purely for masturbation purposes.
>>107358295>real artOld people always gripe about new art techniques. Some caveman bitched about using red ochre instead of charcoal.
>>107358295based
>>107358315not too shabby
>>107356615You can get almost 3 3090's for that price...
>>107356974>tfw shota hands
