Sup /g/Its' almost 2026, do you own an EV already? >carposted from my new EV
No I have a Nissan Sentra with 200000 miles and dents on every panel.
>>107403154why is your car flipped
>>107403154You could've had a BMW
>>107403154benjamin netanyahu can remotely detonate your engine
>>107403154How come your mom lets you have 2 tablets
>>107403154I have a volkswagen touran from 2007 with 350k kilometers.I love it it's a great car
>>107403154nice vin retard. the fuck even is a leapmotor
>>107403240>detonatebatteries cant detonate
>>107403333look up what happens when a battery's housing is pierced
>>107403154They made a Linkin Park car?
>>107403154Some winters here are -50F, would an EV even work at those temps... like, would it even start?
>>107403154No, I own a 2015 Honda Jazz (FIt)
>>107403154outdated tech with 4 wheels attached lmao
>>107403193this guy fucks while on meth
>chink car>VIN is written in typical chinkshit fontit was over before it began
>texting and driving is a serious distraction that kills thousands every year>let's slap a fatass ipad on the dash about itwhy is this legal?
>>107403154>Chinese Tesla clone with no buttons or even a gear shifter
EVs are forced memes - that is all
>>107403154I bought a used Nissan Leaf beginning of 2020. I have changed the tyres but otherwise spent $0 on maintenance since I bought it. Battery hasn't degraded at all (kinda suprised desu). Electricity costs are a third I was spending on petrol. It's not exactly a pussy magnet but I'm married anyway. I personally would never go back to a petrol vehicle.
>>107403767
>>107403154>ecar detects you've visited 4chud>locks doors and drives you to nearest police station
>>107403154No, I don't even have a car with cruise control, VVT, VVI, or direct injection.
>>107403154Fixed the pic
>>107404880very nice
I have a Fiat Panda
>>107404106Say "Tesla!" to start your ECar (TM).
>>107403197The car drives, OP has a toy wheel like maggie in the simpsons intro.
>>107403767>Electricity costs are a thirdTho only if you can charge it at home. Public charger are now as expensive as gas where I live.
>>107404940Public fast chargers are actually more expensive per mile of range than petrol here as well. Unless you have a very small BEV, and Charge only at home, its less economical because of insanely low fuel costs. BEV's even with tax credits and only paying road tax every other year are still more expensive to keep on the road from a legal perspective, and often have much higher insurance rates (on account of being new) than an older petrol car. I am sure you save on repair costs long term, but most people do not factor that into a new car purchase.Basically electric cars just need to be better before they are viable here, or the government will need to go to war with petrol POV's by taxing them through fuel fees and taxes to make them less financially appealing.
>>107403154Imagine being the malnourished indian midget who can fit inside that plastic turd
>>107404978I'm absolutely positive that manufacturers + govt and all the "car industry" parasitic chain will manage to make ownership of EVs more expensive than ICE in the end. What is happening with public chargers is fucking disgrace with owners jewing up ~500% profits on electricity while govt is watching their back.
>>107403154Anon, that's a toymobile. Cars have the driver's seat on the correct side.
>>107404910Based
>>107403250my mom unironically gifted it to me>>107404880but can you shitpost on 4chan?>>107405011it's a pretty huge car tho. in europe it would be classified as a D-Segment car.
>>107403154Driving anything that can be remotely disabled is for cucks sorry
>>107403154>software update required lol u cant driveFuck that noise, and also fuck designs that make you use a touchscreen to control anything other than satnav and entertainment. I want a car that simply runs when I turn the key, and has buttons and knobs to control stuff that I'd reasonably need to change while moving.
>>107405593fuck designs that have any kind of touchscreen at all for anything, or that include navigation or """infotainment""" at all
>>107403154I tried to buy a Leaf in 2023. They literally did not exist for sale. Bought a used Impreza instead.
>>107405593>Fuck that noiseIt's still free update vs 200€ flash at dealer for most ICE cars.
>>107405637What does the update add? I never asked for an update. It's the car maker that wants it and holds the car hostage until you install it.
>>107405646Updates add ads and/or brick the vehicle. Many such cases.
>>107405646idk last reflash I did on mine was to update gearbox software for new atf flud since old one is not available anymore. shelled out 150€ for it and had to leave car at the stealership for two days.I would have preferred free ota update I shit you not.
>>107403154I got a second hand grey import japanese 2018 leaf a couple years ago. Good car, goes well. Only thing that's slightly annoying is the DC fast charge port is CHADemo but they're being replaced with CCS here. Not a huge deal since I rarely ever fast charge unless on a road trip.
>>107403154I'm gonna keep driving my 26 years old Laguna till it breaks.
>>107405795get a 2nd gen Laguna, when my brother scrapped his 2004 one last year due to failed diesel motor (his fault - he neglected belt changes) , there was not a speck of rust on it.
>>107403343unc
>>107405637>UPDOOTERS CAR GETS BRICKED BY RANJEESH. Can’t believe retards are okay with forced or remote updates FOR VEHICLES.
>>107403154>carbrain thinks he's allowed an opinionBe a good goy and keep paying your jewish car insurance and taxesBicyclechads rise up
>>107403623>why is this legal?When I was in the US earlier this year I had a rental car. I shit you not with the navigation system on it would play adverts as I was coming to a turnoff. If the turnoff had a McDonald's it would advertise the McDonald's and what specials they had. As far as I could see there wasn't an option to disable it.
Lift kits are technology!!!
I bought a new pure gas car this year. I kind of figured this will probably be the last pure gas vehicle I own before I jump onto hybrids. I like the way gas engines sound, even the smaller ones.EVs are kind of cool, but I would want one that I can get 500+ miles of range that costs about as much as a new Camry since I go on pretty decent road trips.The actual charging network needs to be improved as well.Until then, I'm just gonna stick to gas & hybrids.
>>107406890I bought a prius last month.Once you go into a hybrid, you don't want to go back. Every pure ICE vehicle seems insanely archaic now mechanically.
>>107407438I've driven my mom's '23 Prius and I hadn't realized just how irritating and obnoxious modern cars had gotten, I hated driving it
>>1074031542010 toyota stick shift. manual locks manual windows. no blue tooth no screens.
>>107407438The only thing that bothers me about gas cars currently is the energy lost during braking. To me, regenerative braking is the biggest selling point on a hybrid, especially being able to drive one pedal. Also, I guess the auto start-stop feature is annoying. My infotainment actually keeps track of it, and in the 90 minutes my engine has been off, it has only save about 0.4 gallons. It doesn't make much sense on a two litter engine. I would like to eventually look into disabling it entirely. Congrats on the Prius though, I really like the new ones.
>>107407592'rolla?
>>107404897oh now that's a proper car right there
>>107403154I don't want a budget smartphone built into my car, miss me with that shit.
>>107403240EV's don't have an engine silly.
>>107403154this is such slop man, we're going backwards
>>107403360>Some winters here are -50F, would an EV even work at those temps... like, would it even start?Yes, no problem.
>>107407747For me personally it's not the wasted energy but it's the relative complexity on modern vehicles.I don't like modern vehicle transmissions. I know there are some vehicles with good classic automatics and even some good belted CVTs but look at the inside if some hybrid transxles and there is nothing to them. No torque converter, no clutches, no belts, just gears, motors and fluid.Even on the engine themselves there are no accessory belts. All replaced with electric versions. Even the engine starter is MG1 in the transaxle.If Automakers could figure out how to make batteries more replaceable and plentiful. The scorge of terrible transmissions could go away.
>>107403629>or even a gear shifterWhy would you need a gear shifter in a car without a gearbox?
>>107408130You're complaining there isn't enough that can break?
I'll be interested in an EV when all the street parking in the country has public chargers on it, so I can plug in my car anywhere I park it and leave it plugged in indefinitely. Until that happens, gasoline is the way.
>>107403154Remove the FUCKING cling film.
>>107408233i didn't know all street parking in the country had gas pumps readily availablethat's kinda neat
i would if the only non gay looking ev wasnt 2.6 metric tons
>>107408297Not him but limited range compared to ICE would be offset if you could easily charge anywhere you happened to stop.And I think this will become the norm eventually.Maybe not every single parking spot but at least every parking spot close to a street light which is a big portion of them.
>>107408362street parking makes me think this is for daily driving, not road tripstypical daily range on an EV is generally pretty decent if you're going for a good one and means you can drive the full range at the start of any given regular day with a home charger whereas with a gas car you have to generally remember to fill up when convenient depending on usage after commute/etc.
>>107403154If Im gonna get an EV I want silly shapes and plush interiors.Noore homosexually egg shapes, I want a 60s Cadillac EV
>>107408408cadillac makes EVs don't they
>>107403154No, I'm too poor.
>>107408389I was assuming he didn't have his own driveway/garage so couldn't install a home charger.Idea is to charge every day or at least every couple of days so you only have to use fast chargers a few times a year on long trips.This would offset going to a fuel station maybe 25 times a year even if you fast charge 6 times and it takes 4 times longer.
>>107408408>I want a 60s Cadillac EVThere was a company near me that retrofitted old classic cars into EV's.Unfortunately they make for lousy EV's because there is no place to put large batteries and the conversion cost nearly as much as a brand new Model 3.I think modern EV's could develop some more funky shapes as batteries become better so aerodynamic efficiency will no longer be as important.The platforms look like skateboards so you could build pretty much anything on top.
>>107408203Out of all the wrenching I've done, I've never replaced any complex electronics. Some Coils, MAF, temp and map sensors but never anything major like an ECU of TCMPlenty of starters, water pumps and alternators have been replaced tho.Not really understanding why people think electronics are somehow the major weak link, even if it comes to it I'd much rather replace an inverter underneath the hood rather than drop a whole transmission. Even a battery isn't hard.
>>107403333Tell it to the Cybertruck that exploded into shrapnel all over the street like a car-sized cluster-grenade.
>>107403154>remember, you're here for the next... 3 hours and 45 minutes.
>>107403154>ChinkEnjoy burning the whole neighborhood down, but you do you.,
>>107409339And he's already at 90% so presumably a full charge takes 37.5 hours.
>>107403154>10% charge>3h 45minno thanks buddy
>>107409428>>107409434While I find the current crop of evs laughable and Op to be a homozexual of unbound proportions, how do you chucklefucks not understand the way lithium cells charge?
>>107408130If only there was a simple alternative propulsion method that didn't involve the hundreds of moving parts required for an internal combustion engine!!!?
>>107403240more likebenjamin netanyahu can override your autopilot gimmick to drive yourself off the cliff
>>107409449Does it take 37 hours to charge your phone?The guy is clearly limited by something else, probably charging from a 110V domestic wall socket at something like 8A.Even the most shit EV's can charge overnight using a home charger.
>>107409557What I meant is fast charge is only done to about 70-80% cells capacity then the rest is done at a much lower current. hence while going from 20% to 90% might only take three hours, going from 90 to 100 will take another three.
>>107403333They definitely can. This is the reason that old batteries are considered hazardous waste and have to be stored in fire proof containers.
>>107403154I don't own an EV because I fucking hate having computers in cars and every EV has a fancy-smancy infotainment system with a touchscreen and everythingI want buttons and I want an AM/FM radio and CD player at most
>>107403154I'm waiting for the inevitable crash in car prices to buy a 5-year old Toyota Corolla hybrid.
>>107403154I've got a cybertruckI upgraded it to fully self driving the other dayI get it to tow my trailer home to work while I take a shower and cook my breakfastI basically never stop driving because faggot police will lock you up if you park too longI just get my cybertruck to drive in circles around the citySeriously, whoever made it illegal to park long term should be killed, no exceptions
>>107403193Same but a 2013 V6 Mustang lol.
>>107409792based
>>107403154because i dont use liberal shit
>>107409574That only applies to fast chargers.20% to 90% might take 20 to 30 minutes.90% to 100% might take 10 to 20 minutes.It's not going to take hours to go from 90% to 100% unless there is some other bottleneck that has nothing to do with the battery cells.Again: does your phone take hours to go from 90% to 100%?
EV might as well stand for Ealwaysonline Vehicle.I have nothing against electric engines per se, in fact I live in a large city in a small European country, so an electric car would be pretty much perfect for me. Most of my driving is sub 50mph and even the occasional roadtrip is usually below 100 miles long. The problem is that nobody makes normal cars with electric engines.
>>107410085>does your phone take hours to go from 90% to 100%?https://www.androidauthority.com/android-adaptive-battery-explained-3223097/Yes, you monumental retard.
>>107408472>I was assuming he didn't have his own driveway/garage so couldn't install a home charger.Precisely. Houses with driveways are very much the minority over here, so like most people I rely on street parking. But I'm not going to plug in to a nearby public charger and hope that it's available that day every three weeks and then come pick up my car three hours later. If I am going to use an EV, I need to be able to keep it charged in much the same way as a home charger, plug it in as you park and leave it plugged in. But on the public street parking spots. All of them, not just a limited fraction of them, or it will inevitably not be available when I need it most.
>>107403154ICE or bust
I drive a 20 year old v8 bmw, NO ONE can stop me from buying old german land yachts and driving them til they die.
>>107412167I used to have a 30 year old BMW 318iThat thing cost more in repairs than the initial price to buy itFuck BMWJapanese cars all the way
>>107403154Nah, I'm not gay.
>>107403193>>107404880I thought Nissan was a basketball American brand?
>>107412310I consider dying to be when they get too expensive to repair. A lot of boomers out in california buy these fucking 7 series and NEVER drive them. Mine has a bit under 73k miles, paint is a bit scuffed but oh well.
>>107403333Do you want to be stuck in an ev when it turns into an incinerator?
>>107412909It's a people with poor credit brand, same as chrysler/fca/stellantis whatever the fuck they're called now.So yeah, nigs.
>>107403154>EVthank you God for not making me a homosexual
>>107404897looks arabic now
>>107405472From my car? No. Why Would I want to do that? My car 30 years old, it doesn't do the internet thankfully.
>>107412998why are you acting like this is exclusive to evs? do you drive in fear of blowing a rod and catching a piston with your skull?
>>107413809No, but my door handles actually work the door.
>>107413935>dude i saw this one video this one time, that means every single ev ever made is exactly like thisfind 3 examples and post them or you are retarded.
No. I own a 2015 manual transmission 4-banger gas car with no onboard telemetry. The thing doesn't even have GPS.I like it that way, I will never buy an electric car, and at this point my commute is usually short enough that I would actually like to have a 2-stroke lawnmower engine go-kart to drive on sunny days instead.Fuck electric cars. Fuck iPads on wheels. Fuck things like GMC OnStar. Fuck emission sensors too, like Evap and O2 sensors, mufflers, and ventless gas cans that you have to hold the nozzle down on while they choke and spurt like it's deep throating a dragon dildo the whole time.
>>107414120>not understanding what I mean by manual doors.By all accounts, continue trusting your safety to glossy piano button.https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/us-opens-probe-into-174000-tesla-model-y-cars-over-door-handle-failures-2025-09-16/the same types of reports exist in the eu for byd.
>>107414187>there are manual door release handles from the insideso im not getting trapped in an incinerator then. fuck the kids and their dumbass soccer moms, they arent relevant to the discussion.
>>107414342>ask for proof>it is provided>nuh-uhwell, not much more to do.>panicked situation, assuming you've retained consciousness.>the door you've used thousands of times suddenly no longer works and using the emergency release requires a secret masonic handshake to find and operate>hurr it won't happen to me.You might be genuinely retarded.
>>107414433yeah okay retard have fun doing backflips in that prison of a mind of yours
>>107414433so what you are saying is, my vehicle is going to spontaneously go up in flames, the door handles are going to fail, and the manual door release is somehow going to be so complex to operate that i'm going to be trapped? you were already moving the goalposts (the door handles fail from the outside), now you are in an entirely different field.
>>107414433I can't imagine living your life just by looking at random online news articles. I take it you live in the south and in the country?
>>107403154>it doesn't even have a cassette playerWhat a piece of shit.
>>107414433>panicked situation, im not a woman>assuming you've retained consciousness.manual door handles arent helping you here>the door you've used thousands of times suddenly no longer works and using the emergency release requires a secret masonic handshake to find and operatethis is an insane reach, nothing designed to be used in an emergency is difficult to operate
>>107403154>do you own an EV already?YeahBut only because it drives itself
>>107409776Corolla hybrids are insane. I rented one once and I legitimately got 500 miles on a 10 gallon tank. It was magical.
I have a 2002 Accord and it runs fine why would I need more
>>107403575>it was over before it beganWhich is why the CEO of ford came back from china with a chinkshit car to use as a daily driver. It's over.
>>107405011Imagine being that fat due to stupidity and laziness you can't fit into something literally designed to fit 90%+ of the global population.
>>107406706>As far as I could see there wasn't an option to disable it.I've got a hammer.But you did charge them for forcing you to endure advarts? Or at least get an advert-per-mile discount on the rental?
>>107403154why would i?they suck
>>107403154I own a Hyundai ioniq 5. But this thread should be on /o/
>>107413935>EVS CAN NEVER HAVE PHYSICAL DOOR HANDLES BRO>ITS ACTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE PHYSICAL DOOR HANDLES IN EVS BROKill yourself.
>>107403154From a purely technical standpoint EV's are amazing, they even had them in the early 1900s. However my car needs neither a central nervous system nor software. I still miss my Mark II VW Golf. Old shit beater car, but it was mostly reliable (aside from an alternator I had to change), while new car, you start and get an OTA update that takes two hours and pray to the Omnissiah it doesn't fuck up the update so that it gets bricked. Would love a modern electrified VW Golf Mark II, but without the software nuisance. Like the CityGolf but with good battery tech.
/g/ only have two kind of people:the one, who can afford everythingvsthe one who can't buy anything
>>107417229>Would love a modern electrified VW Golf Mark II, but without the software nuisanceThis will never happen because lithium batteries can't be produced without software because they're too unstable. Meanwhile, a flooded lead-acid battery just needs a zener diode and a capacitor to keep it controlled.Shit technology all to make our lives worse.
>>107417547Yes but even if it requires software there is no reason for this software to be in any way connected to the internet.
>>107417156NTA but it feels that way for a lot of things>IT'S PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR EVS TO NOT HAVE A GIANT IPAD DASH WITH "APPS" FOR BASIC FUNCTIONALITY>ITS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR EVS TO FUNCTION WITHOUT AN INTERNET CONNECTION AND REGULAR SOFTWARE UPDATES, JUST CAN'T DO IT BRODoor handles are just another symptom of the same thing.I fucking wish this wasn't the case. I just want a normal ass fucking car that I can drive across the city and charge in my driveway. My usage habits are literally perfect for an electric engine and I can even charge it at home and never pay for public charging, I even have space to install solar fucking panels on my roof (I got a quote and everything, it would actually work out well in my area) so I could get nearly free driving if I went ahead with it.But no it's literally physically impossible to put an electric engine into a normal car. They're only able to make them work inside funky smart gadgets on wheels. Can't do it bro, all the manufacturers and engineers in the world haven't been able to solve this problem, maybe in 50 years we'll finally get fusion and then all the top physicists can switch to trying to invent an electric car that doesn't have more botnet software failure points than a budget non-rootable android with ads on the lockscreen.
>>107403154>EVHow about I EVict you back to India, Ranjeet
>>107418473The screen makes sense.There are no actual dedicated switches for anything in a car anymore. Turning on the AC fan isn't directly interacting with a relay to turn the fan on.No, your flipping a switch which sends a command trough canbus to tell the body control module to send a command to the fan to turn on.It's easier to skip the theatrics and just use the infotainment to send those commands. Touchscreens are so dirt cheap and already demanded by the normie population for their android auto and carplay shit.Having fully electric doors when they dont open automatically is fucking retarded tho.
>>107414186Kek based extremely based
>>107403154>the snake oil of our time
I own a diesel golf 8 just like picrel. 115hp stock > 192hp with a stage 1 and will soon bump it to 265hp after I install new head bolts and a bigger turbogaysoline h/o/mos need no reply
>>107418805Looks like an EU Karen car, taking the kids to the footy?
>>107418805>115hp to 192hp with a chiptune>in a dieselwhat the fuck?
>>107418904Anon just wants to wreck his engine real fast, let him be.
>>107418552>bro it's electric control that means you need a bootleg ipad welded to your car's dash! it makes sense!!A button can be part of an extremely simple control circuit. The central control module can basically run bare metal firmware that reacts to dash button inputs and changes the behaviour of various systems accordingly.A tablet dash basically needs a fully fledged OS. You need layers of software, you need touchscreen drivers, you need UI libraries, you need "apps" running in userspace, you need window management, and under the hood you still need "drivers" for either individual hardware (like the AC unit) or more likely the actual underlying control module that still handles it directly. Unless that doesn't exist anymore and the infotainment itself directly interfaces with every subsystem? But in that case I'm pretty sure the AC will have its own controller with its own firmware anyway, there's no way the dash CPU is wired directly into the hardware control of everything.So I'd much rather press a button to send a signal to the control firmware than fucking tap a touchscreen on an app running on either a bootleg homegrown OS stack or stripped down android or something (and I'm not sure which is worse) and hope it sends the correct signal to the firmware controller.I realise that maybe I'm in the minority because I don't even know what the fuck android auto does exactly, but I do know that it's infotainment and having a big screen for that in your car that's independent of the hardware control is not at all the same thing as having basic functions of your car be controlled by fifty layers of software indirection.
>>107403154Because I live in Australia. Useless here.Everyone's buying Diesel trucks it seems because roads are getting worse and the outback is unforgiving.
>>107403629Honestly, Chinese Tesla doesn't sound any worse than Tesla, period. Both are shit.Tesla drivers are the new Volvo drivers.
>>107418904The 2 liter tdi outputs 150hp base and bumps up to 192hp with a stage 1, which is the same as the gtd golf. The 115hp tdi is literally the same as the 150hp but electronically capped to comply with emissions laws.
>>107419061>gimps your engine>charges you 5k more to ungimp itwhy are krauts like this?
>>107404880>late 90s/00s luxury cars were still kinda nice insideThen something happened around 2008 and now ALL cars have shit interiors now. But really the damage was done in the late 70s and 80s with car designs.Fucking oil crisis fucked up car designs.We could have had good looking cars but for that crisis and laws that were implemented for safety (that unironically making less safe cars kek).
>>107406779I miss this era of hot rods. Sigh.Used to see so many Falcons and Commodores like this in the 00s. Nowadays, you get neither, just crappy mustangs and whatever crap GM sells nowadays. I will never forgive this government for letting this happen. Cars in this country have been garbage since letting them go. You can't even service them correctly.
>>107403154This shit is from 2002. Hand crank windows, CD player that you can pull of the faceplate from, no power mirrors, windows anything, no seat warmer not whatever the fuck you retards want to have in your car nowadays.Best car ever.
>>107403154I can glide a few kilometers...
>>107419145wtf is a power mirror
>>107419001>A tablet dash basically needs a fully fledged OS. You need layers of software, you need touchscreen drivers, you need UI libraries, you need "apps" running in userspace, you need window management, and under the hood you still need "drivers"It seems overly complex but unlike your ever changing Linux distro on your PC, most car infotainment software is often based on pretty well understood software. Automotive grade Linux just now supports the 5.5 kernal which is 5 years old.Once the software is in the car it's going to be fairly unchanging, aside from bug fixes the OS is going to be immutable and will never see any new versions of anything. If it works today it'll work forever unless there is a hardware failure.Apps that interact with the internet are a different story but it seems that recently that car manufacturers have discouraged actual apps in exchange for android auto/carplay which is basically screen mirroring from a phone. Unless Google/Apple massively changes the protocol that will also work almost forever.
>>107419574I confess I have never used an EV myself but isn't it common for EV owners to have to install software updates? I hear about it regularly.If it really is mostly static and offline, then, well I'll still complain because a touchscreen UI is fundamentally worse than buttons, but at least it wouldn't be egregious. (Still, almost all the ones I've seen make you click several times for simple things, like selecting "climate settings" to adjust the A/C instead of a normal dash where you just press the control buttons you want.)
>>107419675You mostly hear about it on Teslas as Teslas really are like an actual tablet with full software updates that change things regularly. Most of the shit you hear about EVs is from Teslas because they are the most common EVThey are the exception however. Most of your others have head unit software that is going to be relatively unchanging. I do agree with the button thing tho, they are just better for getting at things without fumbling, I understood however why they aren't always present and it's because they are redundant from a business and design perspective.
>>107418473youre just describing modern manufacturing in general. nothing of what you stated is exclusive to ev. your 2025 f150 is going to have an ipad in the center console that gives you popup advertisements for the mcdonalds at the next turn out, and an internet connection to do "software updates" (refresh the mcdonalds location registry)
>>107403154your "new" ev looks like a third world piece of shit. what an ABSOLUTELY disgusting interior. so cheap and nasty. you are fucking moron, op.
>>107403154I don't have a car. I don't want to be a slave and drive myself and other people around.
>>107403333W A S T E D D I G I T SASTED I G I T S
>>107403154I only drive analog panel with physical buttons. I don't want to look to a screen when I'm driving and even worse trying to touch a screen while driving. Cuckest shit ever
>>107403154I have an ebike that I use like a car does that count?
>>107419024that's trueI just meant its clearly meant to imitate a Tesla by the design If anything that thing will be better quality than a Tesla
>>107419412On larger and newer cars they fold in for space.I have a button to fold my mirrors in on the Cedric to fit in smaller spaces. It also just helps prevent them from getting hit by idiots that can't park.My car is to long for many spaces, and it's too wide with the mirrors out for compact space widths. I also admit I will fold them in before parking to fit closer to a wall or pole and give more space to the adjacent parking stall to minimize chance of door dings. My car is old, but it's nice and I don't want it messed up.
>>107421358Oh yeah makes sense. To be honest the difference between power folding and manual folding is so minimal I have literally never considered it when looking through a car's features.
>>107421498I don't care on my old car because it was a small s segment car. The cedric is e segment and pretty much a small boat. The front axle tends to be in line with the limits of the space, meaning the bumper hangs into the drive aisles when parked. Biggest car I've ever owned personally.
>>107418473I don't know where you live or what electric cars you have looked at but I'm pretty sure the issues you are describing are unique to the Tesla.My nissan leaf has mechanical door handles, mechanical A/C and a CD player. I've driven a few electric cars (different models) from the work fleet too and all of them had mechanical door handles and the same shit on the dash that all new cars have no matter the propulsion method.
>>107423701Interesting.>I don't know what electric cars you have looked atI haven't really looked at a lot of them, I'm mostly just being angry based on hearsay without actually researching the topic myself.
>>107419412Yeah you know when you have that little joystick looking thing on your driver's side door that you can adjust the mirrors with. My old dog just has a knob sticking out of either side door to adjust the mirrors with from the inside.
>>107423991lol, based and honest reply. I agree that mandatory internet connectivity and touch-screen everything in vehicles is cancer, but this is all easily avoidable while still getting the myriad benefits of electric propulsion.
>>107419114It was the adoption of brutalism that fucked up car styling in the 1980s. Judaized boomers were designing cars with only a pencil and a ruler, they would have made the wheels square if they could.
>>107403154I cannot fathom the chain of poor decisions that led you to this moment, OP.
>>107403154How tall is that center console?wtf
Sauce on this image?
>>107403154Too expensive
>>107426409Incredible
This is where they put the corn cobs
>>107426429https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/give%20one%20%281%29%20good/
>>107424843Can you get them without a gigantic "infotainment" screen in general? I recognise this is popular on modern cars in general for some reason and not just EVs, but I can still easily buy an ICE from 2015 or so without one, whereas with EVs you're forced to buy pretty new (both becaues the technology is improving so much and because the battery will be shot if you buy a ten year old one).
>>107404880FUCK, that interior looks comfy
>>107403154because the future is powered by gasoline and coal
>>107403154my mechanic friend said these things are effectively worthless without the warranty because the battery costs so much and WILL need to be replaced at some pointhe said electric cars will be the future, but what we have right now will not. i guess i'm thankful for early adopters beta testing the tech for me
>>107427981I like it a lot more than many newer "nicer" cars I've sat in. Good quality cloth, open design. Not overly cluttered. Held up well considering it's 30yr old.
>>107429032>he said electric cars will be the futureyour friend is retarded then. with the housing situation of most people alone electric cars will never be viable. they are only an option for people with a garage. most people dont have the luxury of having their own parking spot
>>107403154So how do you even charge this thing if you're a normal person?Like, unless you have your own home with a garage then ???? what if you live in an apartment or if you live in a house in the city without a garage, you're supposed to plug a long ass cable to the street? I don't understand. I could stomach waiting 15 minuets for the battery to charge in some station, but waiting an entire hour, or three? that's insane.I only see EVs working in China where the government makes a lot of infrastructure and there's electric plugs everywhere, otherwise it's impossible and I don't see these things replacing normal cars ever, it's like the VR tech of cars, everyone saying is the future but never comes
>>107403154>imagine getting an EV instead of RV
>>107431083>>107431217Anyone living in suburbs can charge at home.Anyone living in an appartment is shit out of luck that's true. There's street charging but only a tiny amount of parking spaces that have that, there's almost zero chance you'll be able to charge at home so you'll have to hope you get lucky that wherever you're driving to has charging spots you can leave your car at while you do whatever.But appartments are horrible for parking in general. You have a house with 5 people living in it and the street in front of it is 2 cars wide, to the left and to the right each is another house with 5 people in it. Street parking is already gay as all fuck.One can imagine that as electric cars get more and more popular on-street charging will also expand. If one day charging spots make up most of parking spots, then having an EV while living in an appartment will become just as viable as having a car in the first place: if you can find the street parking for it then you can just charge it "at home" (overnight). The cost could be covered by a municipal subscription similar to residential parking permits are right now, so you'd be able to park and charge for free anywhere that you qualify for priority street parking as a local resident.In the meantime, you don't need a garage, just a driveway. And I may be wrong but I feel like suburb residents make up the majority of car owners, because public transport is often garbage in suburbs, while if you live in an appartment owning a car is much more annoying in the first place and you also have a lot more options for getting around inside the city. At least that's how it is in europe, dunno how american cities work since you guys have niggers.
>>107432165as rare as they are, apartments with garages do exist and those garages usually have a 12v outlet that you could charge with and its totally fine if you aren't using your car for something like rideshare every day
