You need ECC.
>>107406408You need foot based desktop environments
>>107406408Use case for ECC RAM?
>>107406408Everyone knows ECC is a marketing scam.
>>107406537yeah i'll listen to you over the greatest programmer who ever lived
I wasn't aware that DDR had some ECC built in, even if it's not the the same degree as actual ECC memory.
more cpus and motherboards need to properly support ecc ram first
>>107406546He ain't terry davis
>>107406408ECC DDR5 is like 10 times more expensive than normal ram.
>>107406553basically the DDR5 built-in "ECC" is because the chips are internally much more error-prone, they need that just to bring them up to the level of DDR4 non-ECC. It's a bit like QLC flash vs TLC/MLC. If you want the equivalent of DDR4 or earlier ECC you need DDR5 with real ECC, that is, the 9th chip on the module.
>>107406408linus:>I don't understand why people don't require thatebussy:>you don't need that
>>107406537Linus most likely bought some shit ass RAM 30 years ago and it fucked up his 12 hour kernel compilation and is now forever traumatized.
I have ECC DDR4 on my laptop and the fucking piece of shit is still unstable as shit. It was worse with the factory RAM.
>>107406408I noticed something with Linus, is if you are fat and then suddenly start to take care of your weight at 50+ yo, you will then look like you are 70+ I think fat people should stay fat if they are over 50 and want to look their age, I had the same realization while looking at Gabe Newell, the dude aged 20 years since he went on a diet
>>107406553congrats, you fell for their lies.
>>107406699There are legitimate issues with RAM in shelf built desktops.With like 95% of DIMMs on the market being overclocked it's no wonder people have issues and ECC would solve it but it skirts around the actual problem.
>>107406761Stress is the biggest cause of aging after all
ECC makes RAM slower but its a cool feature to have like TSME or Data Scramble.
>>107406408correct
>>107406408i dont need ECC for gaming, checking if the data is actually OK only adds latency
>>107406408I really don't, but if I developed high-stake software like Linus, I would actually want it.
>>107406749oh dear! what are the symptoms?
>>107406546He's obviously a very important programmer who programmed a very important thing, but I don't think even Linus (Mr. Torvalds or Mr. Tech Tips) himself would call himself the greatest programmer who ever lived, nor would he claim to be all that well versed in anything outside of the Linux kernel.He's said a few times that outside of the kernel, he's not actually that good with computers.
>>107410299General intelligence is a thing, if he's not good with computers than he's a retard.
>she doesn't use cloud storage as vramngmi
>>107410336I think he just doesn't use them all that often or in that much depth. Certainly general intelligence is a thing, but many skills require practice too.
>>107406699he literally tells a recent story in the video.
>>107406546>the poor linux atheist gaylord leader mr torvalds>greatest programmer who ever lived
>>107406546That's not Donald Knuth though.
>>107410336Here's the thing. General intelligence means understanding time=money. Wasting money is a retard thing. Therefore, Linux users are retards.
>>107406568>>107410450Terry is not that impressive a programmer either as much as I respect him.
>>107410470
>>107410489newfags are so easy to spot man
>>107406537On the used market it is often massively cheaper than normal ram though, making old Xeon workstations easy to get up to 32GB-64GB of, e.g., DDR3.
>>107410336>>107410470Indeed - Linux usage outside single-use servers is a autistic thing, unironically.Not that it's a lack of intelligence - It's a mental illness that makes the person interested in technology itself instead of using it for rational objectives like spreading your genes through gaining wealth.The linux user is one step further detached, he is more interested in tinkering with the OS than actually using the OS for it's sole intended purpose, to run third party applications and games.
>>107410470I have wasted more of time trying to get basic stuff working on Windows than I have on Linux.What's that? You want to run a sh script? Fuck you! Even though most of professional devs have used *nix systems, you can't do that on Windows!Aww? You really need to? Then use **Linux-Subsystem for Windows**! (Or minGW)I suppose this applies a bit less to normies, but even try to get a printer to work on Windows takes massively longer than on Linux.
>>107410509See >>107410461Knuth has always been the true /g/ ideal. Terry is nice, but he truly is not very impressive.Even sizeof.cat schizo has his own OS going which has more features than Terry's.
>>107410284Memory corruption at boot, random freezes. It's been working fine for a few weeks now after I cleaned out the contacts and reseated the modules. But I've done it before and it never stops feeling like a ticking timebomb.
>>107410427what video?
We need ECC for every single part of the computer.
>>107410450Terry was a literal tweaker hobo
>>107406408now serious question, i may need to do a workstation for simulating mechanical stuff, basically finite element analiys or fluid analysis, is ecc something really useful? these tasks may take less than a day
>>107410762If you have a PC with DDR5 RAM you already have at least some form of (somewhat questionable) ECCBut if you want 100% accuracy then having actual ECC is always better. There are lots of types of ECC. If you don't mind the calculations taking a bit longer you can get an old workstation with a server-grade Haswell Xeon CPU and ECC RAM for pretty cheap these days
>>107410825isnt the price of ram really fucked up nowadays? or is only the modern one?bc i may need lots of ram...
>>107410825>>107410866>you can get an old workstation with a server-grade Haswell Xeon CPU and ECC RAM for pretty cheap these daysBeyond just "pretty"--I regularly see 512GB ECC DDR3 dual 32T Xeon servers selling for ~$300 (+$50 for shipping) on eBay.>>107410866Desktop/server DRR4 and 5 are absurd now, but anything older is super cheap.
>>107406761>if you are fat and then suddenly start to take care of your weight at 50+ yo, you will then look like you are 70+keyword "look"better to be 50 and look 70 than to be 50 and die from a heart attack
>>107406546good bait.
>>107410903To clarify, prices are in USD and in the USA
>>107410903ddr4 too? shit. so i will end using a server as old as my fx8350 kek
>>107406408wtf he looks older than my dad, who is more than 20 years older.
>>107411106I hadn't seen seen Linus in a while, and without thinking, just had assumed it was a rando in his 70s.
>>107411062You can also get old desktop-case "server workstations" for around that same price but they often have just 128-256GB--but at least they don't need a server rack.
>>107410707this onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
>>107406408Undetected RAM errors are awful. They make your programs crash and corrupt your data, and the problems tend to cascade.
>>107406408>threadripper>xeonyeah, I'll pass, I hope openai and google get bit flips all the time during training
>>107411264The embed auto preview literally shows that's a rickroll
>>107411280did you like it?
No i dont, im not doing anything important
If ECC had no downsides whatsoever it would be ok I guess but for real a single bitflip every wheneverthefuck isnt going to matter to most people
>>107411312The only downside is the extra expense. Most people are not interested in paying extra for things they get no cred for.
>>107406408Once you start looking at rasdaemon reports on a system equipped with ECC you realize how uncomfortably common correctable errors can be. Never going back to "normal" RAM. ECC is what all RAM should be.A spike in ECC errors also alerted me to a PCIe device misbehaving electrically some years ago. Not directly but the spike caused me to investigate, and after confirming the RAM was good, I re-inserted the PCIe devices one by one, until the bad one caused the ECC errors to begin again.
>>107411378I am angery, angery that my 8945HS does not support ECC RAM.
>>107411106he does look really old, but he doesn't sound really oldhe needs to stop aging so fast tho...
>>107411570>https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/ryzen-9-pro-8945hs.c3569>Architecture > ECC Memory: YesIt appears that it does, provided your mobo does too.
>>107411570This is why I buy only the most pristine e-waste
I have a server that runs 24/7 and never had issues with memory corruption or flipped bits
>>107411805>be me>Chad buys a lottery ticket>Chad wins the lottery>thus, if I buy a lottery ticket, I will win too
>>107410578>using it for rational objectives like spreading your genes through gaining wealth.That sounds boring.What am I going to do with a billion dollars? Landlording?Too lazy.
>>107406408Damn he's getting old :\
>>107411890nigga bilions of consumer devices run fine without the general populous asking for ecc ,what fucking lottery are you talking about
>>107411952>What am I going to do with a billion dollars?Follow Escobar's example:1. Have money2. Buy zoo animals3. Feed them cocaine4. ???5. Fun
>>107406602So that's why DDR5 RAM has fuck huge latency?
>>107411997Yes, and billions of consumers experience issues caused by memory corruption without ever knowing it.IRC, a research paper found that a 10 Windows system running for ~30 days was the median time for a bitflip to cause the BSOF.
>>107411279I run ECC on my Ryzen 5950X. There are a decent number of motherboards that support it unofficially and also 4 or 5 mobos that have true vendor support with ECC QVLs and everything.
>>107412038Lots of even cheap-ish AMD CPUs support ECC unofficially too
>>107412033>>107411890That's cool bro, i'm not speeding an extra $500 for ECC when it's never benefited me once in over 25 years of using computers.
>>107412033>without ever knowing it.they dont notice because is DONT MATTER> a research paper found that a 10 Windows system running for ~30 days was the median time for a bitflip to cause the BSOF.people dont have their computer on for a full month, mine is usually up for 2 months and that is cause I restart to updoot and refresh my shityou have to understand that these problems can be solved by turning the machine on and off once, why would I spend extra money and performance to avoid something so simple, that happens anyway already
>>107412080Are you not aware that older used ECC ram is often much cheaper? As stated by myself and others, one can easily get an old Xeon 32T-64T CPU with 128-512GiB ram for much less than your $500 figure
>>107412113My system uptime averages 30-70 days, and before I switched to Linux, Windows often crashed before I restarted it/shutdown.
>>107412133are you implying here that linux is less prone to bit flipping? do you know how this phenomenon occurs?
>>107412152No, I mean that Windows is more likely to crash than Linux--shrimple as that.>do you know how this phenomenon occurs?Yes
>>107412004No. DDR5 has huge latency because it was a tradeoff for the high bandwidth. Specifically because it uses a prefetch buffer that's twice the size of DDR4, along with double the burst length. With chips including huge amounts of cache, latency to system memory has mattered less than it did before. ECC doesn't affect this at all.The big problem with DDR5 ECC is that it is only on the chip itself. Unlike true ECC it can't catch or correct errors during transmission or for the memory controller on the CPU itself.
>>107406408what the fuck?>>107411157
>>107406568Exactly.
>>107411805you're just not aware.>>107412038at what speed?
>>107406408without ecc the glowies have the technology that can bitflip malware into your ram
>>107406408I fell for the ECC meme for one of my servers, the shit broke my DIMM slots after like 4 years
>>107412701They apparently can do it even with ECC>https://www.darkreading.com/vulnerabilities-threats/rowhammer-vulnerability-can-bypass-ecc-memory-chips
>>107411785That looks like a fine computer.
>>107412820>However, the researchers realized that if you got three bit flips to occur without accidentally getting two first and triggering a crash, you could bypass ECC.So having more ECC bits would make it massively more difficult/rare to happen?
planes need ecchttps://www.bbc.com/future/article/20251201-how-cosmic-rays-grounded-thousands-of-aircrafti also remember cisco blaming crashes on solar flares and having it in a manual.
>>107410903DDR4 server RDIMMs are as cheap as before. 16GB sticks cost like 40 bucks
>>107412071All DDR5 boards support it unofficially
>>107413356i wouldn't buy relying on this statement.
>>107413388I wouldn't buy any consumer board if I wanted ECC
>>107406408>demands ECC on his computer>constantly vulnerable to buffer overflows, memory leaks by writing programs in C
COME COSMIC RAYS! MAKE MY MARIO TELEPORT!
>>107413228Isn't dealing with cosmic ray a total lost cause?NASA solution is to use 9 years old Zbook and 18 years old T61p.
>>107413517In space yes, but with some atmosphere, it's some bits getting fucked, not space radiation treating your memory like a cheese grater does a raccoon.
>>107413228The modern philosophy on Carrington-tier solar storms is that they are nothing burgers, but people really underestimate the damage 10^30 high energy protons hitting ground level over the span of 12 hours can cause
>>107413337Source?
>>107413572ebay
>>10741333732gb sticks are like 400 dollars now
>>107413337>DDR4 server RDIMMs are as cheap as before.BSI paid $20 per 16gb a few months ago
>>107413459Zig > Rust > CIf they wanted something with the high-level and memory-safety features of rust whilst still being able to have low-level access, they should have chosen Ada. The compile times of Ada are closer to C than rust, and a separate compiler wouldn't need to be used since GCC has had official Ada support for decades.
that was some harebrained shit about ram going bad in 2 years. Linus Torvalds might be a programmer but he sucks at computers and is wrong. I couldn't watch the whole video, LTT is a brace face, lisping faggot. His viewership has halved since he got braces. It's disgusting. I only like braces on pigtail girls in adult videos
>>107413608nta but these was 195 dollars just a few days ago
Fine, I'll askwhat the fuck is ECC?
>>107413664these for example are even worse
>>107413679The content of RAM can get corrupted because of certain things like cosmic raysECC detects and corrects such issues
>>107413664guess I'm not upgrading anytime soon.I want to use OpenZFS and they recommend ECC.
>>107413679It is a memory type that uses some form of error correction that detects and corrects bitfilps/other errors by using an extra ram chip and circuity that preforms algorithms to determine exactly which bit should be changed.
>>107406558Literally any Ryzen
>>107406408Yeah but it's $400 for two 32GB DDR4 DIMMs on AliExpress so I'll wait
>>107410578Why are you on this board then? Day trader Reddit is over there -->
>>107412118>used ECC ram is often much cheaperThe silicon in those is very tired. There is a reason they are much cheaper.
>>107406408sure let me just raid an AI data center...
>>107406408My home server has 768GB of DDR4 3200MHz ECC SDRAM in it. What do I win? [spoiler]It was 100% free, took it home from work (I work in a datacenter).[/spoiler]
>>107414114Fair; the only ram I have ever had "fail" was old DDR3 ECC 2GiB sticks--they technically still worked and didn't have unrecoverable error but errored so often that even Arch with only xfce4 open looked like a slideshow.However, aside from that, I have never had any problems with them.
>>107414149Did they really just give it to you?
>>107414164I'm the Datacenter lead so yeah. We were decomming old gear (three year cycle) and I said, "can I take this" and they said "sure, give me the asset tag so I can zero it out in inventory." It is either me get it or it goes to some 3rd party company who refurbishes it and sells it.
>>107413631I read a comment from some guy who worked with large deployments of computers who said that he changes ram every 3 years since they tend to go bad within that period and cause strange issues so there might be some truth to that
>>107414149Just some perks of the jobDo you get to bring home old xeons, 100gbit nics and Nvidia accelerators too
>>107414149>768GBWhat do you do with it?
>>107414149the more ram you have, the easier it gets bit error
>>107411785i have something similar, though i sort of regret it. cpu hardly does anything, ever, 36 threads idling.oh well, at least my data is fairly safe.
>>107414192So many dockers/containers my guy. Emby, nextcloud, sonarr, radarr, lidarr, minstrel model I trained for some shit, pihole, grafana, bitwarden, searxng, duplicati, rocket chat, some game servers, couple of web servers, a dozen or so VMs for testing/learning (about half of them are replicated from my work environment or other business environments I want to work in), home assistant and probably some other shit. Base OS is Proxmox and everything else is virtualized. I have two of these bad boys too so failover and about 270TB of usable storage with 1/3rd drive redundancy.
Your RAM will go bad!
>>107414275>anon is an AWS region
>>107414393Nah man I haven't had a major outage in 9 months. Way better than AWS.
>>107410489His shit was two megGRUB alone is bigger than two meg!
In Band ECC is the best answer.normies and gaymers can leave it off and autists or people with suspect memory can switch it on if you want to sacrifice 1/32 of memory space and some bandwidthSome Mini-PC and SoC boards randomly support it, most don't.
>>107406408Kind of late to the party desu. If you're doing anything important you really should have switched a decade or so ago.
>>107412038AMD CPUs have long supported ECC RAM.
>>107414765This, AMD were such based motherfuckers during the FX Vishera days, that you could run ECC ram on the 8350 even though it wasn't an opteron or an expensive ass Xeon CPU, the opterons were basically pointless due to the basedness of AMD FX
>>107410470brown hands typed this
>>107414275>sonarr>radarr>lidarrfucking redditor
>>107414925You manually look for all your content rather than build out a list of parameters, feed it titles and let it grab it for you?
>>107410450He literally ran TempleOS inside virtualbox on Ubuntu
Why he looking like pre force lighning palpatine
>>107415346
>>107406408Fedorabros... we won!
>>107406408Apparently ClosedAI doesn’t need it, since they’re buying up all DRAM regardless.Doesn’t really make much sense unless they have ECC controllers they’re looking to solder on.
>>107415417Don't ECC matter a lot less in AI training/running since AI is already lossy and the massive chunk of model data is more likely to get corrupted than the tiny amount of data required for the OS and other stuff to run properly? Or am I misunderstanding something?
>>107412220hol up. are you implying that linux is just ok with a bitflip that would take down a windows system?
>>107415460I don’t know, supposedly they’re leaders in AI safety so i trust their judgement on the matter.
>>107406761>I noticed something with Linus, is if you are fat and then suddenly start to take care of your weight at 50+ yo, you will then look like you are 70+Do you ever stop spreading harmful bullshit, Alenka? Fucking AIDS cockmutant.
>>107415473No not at all. What I am saying is that Linux tends to have fewer bugs in it that make it crash, mostly due to the massive amount of commercial development on Linux to make it so stable--which is part of why Linux is much, much more widely used for servers than Windows. Aside from normal, non-bitflip-related error, Linux's kernel is smaller and, thus, is less likely to get bitfliped than Window's; this also applies to when applications are being used since they tend to be smaller and more modular such that they won't cause os issues if/when they crash.The latter can still be problematic if the application is something like xorg on a desktop environment because it would prevent the user from logging in or switching to Linux's integrated ttys to kill xorg (as it would be capturing all input but not processing it). This has happened to me several times in my life.
>>107406408Maybe another time. Even regular RAM costs stupidly much right now.
>>107415549As an aside, lots of problems in Linux can be recovered from with a simple one-liner--such as when xfce4's taskbar(s) get kill from lack of ram because you decided to have >3300 FF tabs open and let it get 20GiB deep in swap (I really did that). Perhaps Window's taskbar can be relaunched too though...
>>107415588That isn't much tho, I have gotten up past 5700 tabs--I remember bragging about it at school.
>>107414422And grub has more functionality than his shit.
>>107413228I dont have a plane under my desk so no ecc usecase for me
>>107414936I look for media content maybe once a month so that's not a problem what amount of goyslop do you consume every day that you need automation for?
>>107415517what harmful content? just look at Linus and Gabe photos before and after their weight loss, they clearly look like 20 years apart even tho its only a couple years.
Why the fuck would I need ECC?>devvingNever had an issue, this isn't 1998 where a compile can take 12 hours.>gamingNo benefit.>general useAgain, no benefit.ECC for consumers is just another non-feature they can slap on the box to justify a higher price.
>>107406408I would have gotten ECC if I actually could fucking find some to buy along with a platform that supports it.
>>107418823>Why the fuck would I need ECC?So you don't get blue screens and memory artifacts like on GPUs, workstation GPUs have ECC too I think
>>107406537bait used to be believable
>>10740669930 years ago he'd at least have parity checking even on cheap system
>>107414275>So many dockers/containersWhat do you use to manage the containers?
>>107411785Where do you even get these, and how much? I live in third world and everything costs so much I give up before even trying. Being born in first world is honestly a cheat code, it's like living life on easy mode. Sorry to vent but you guys have it way easier, regards to tech, general life, etc.
>>107406408what happened to him?
>>107419723ozempic overdose (maybe)
Gee I wonder who is behind this push for ECC for consumers that have zero benefits from lmao. Even more laughable how all the shills in here are so poor from wasting money on it that they have to resort to using older DDR3 and older builds just to afford it at considerably less total ram lmao
>>107406546That’s not Fabrice Ballard
>>107417183It is about owning the best version of a thing for retention. Studios rerelease and remaster constantly. Rippers constantly redo encodings. Generally early after a release the best you have are webrips, then maybe a year later you'll get a proper remux with all 7.1 channel lossless audio tracks, then 6 months after that you'll get proper high quality AV1 or H265 encoding so you can reduce wasted space.There is also the issue of older shows vanishing for several years at a time on the web and lost episodes (Looking at you Space Ghost Coast to Coast, only 2 missing episodes to go). I don't have time to hunt those down and the amount of time rarer versions of things spends on the internet maybe at most 24 hours. So if you aren't always looking you'll never find it. But I'm a discerning collector and only want the best for viewing if I find the time on my 65" G4 OLED and 9.1.4 surround sound system. If it isn't 4K, HDR, with lossless surround I'm not interested (or the best version of a thing available at least).
>>107406643LMAO
>>107406408don't mind me chilling with 16GiB DDR3Labout half of it gets wasted on caching things I don't need
>>107419639Proxmox QEMU VMs. I'd run them as CTs but proxmox doesn't it do it that well yet. You lose the ability to live-migrate when/if failures happen or if you need to do maintenance. Which is silly but maybe one day.
>>107419666the mobos for the old xeons are expensive as fuck.you get more value and performance by unironically getting a shitboard + something like a 10100f from e-waste
>>107420425I envy your simple life.
>>107419723Lost 20kg and gained 20 years as a consequence
>>107406408I worked at large company building custom computers, we tested the stability and it was the fucking RAM every time.. like once per 10-20RAM sets there was one bad ram module ram giving errors in memtest... it was only ram so many times that we stopped stability testing the rest and just tested ramit was 15y ago, not sure how the latest - DDR5 reliability is now
>>107414164>asking permission to stealbro, I stole so much shit from work i started to actually feel some guilt at some point
>>107406522errors don't fuck your shit up>>107407157how much slower? give an example
>>107413608>micron is axing crucial and leaving the consumer marketis this how I'm going to buy ram now?
>>107422175ECC works by reserving some cycles to check for errors, hence its slower by default. Treat it like a secondary timing thing like TRFC.
>>107410644>See >>107410461>Knuth has always been the true /g/ ideal. Terry is nice, but he truly is not very impressive.>Even sizeof.cat schizo has his own OS going which has more features than Terry's.Tell me you have no idea what you're talking abouy without explicitly saying so.Phoneposting so ill spare the details, but Terry wrote the bulk of TempleOS back in the late 2000s/early 2010s. Only a true retard would even attempt to compare his work to something done today in the age of instantaneous help & feedback through sophisticated LLMs. Terrys shit was confirmably original, whereas this false idol you jerk off to clearly took his supposed features from elsewhere. Not that anyone blames him, OSDev is as hard as it gets and definitely not suited for everyone. But to put him above King Terry is just straight off blasphamous you disgusting fucking kikePlease just go back to redd!t/jewtube/wherever the fuck you came from and leave the discussion to nonretards
>>107406408Changes anything, it's snake oil. My server has 512gb of non ECC ram and never had problems.
>>107406408Already have now I need HRT
>>107412038ECC on standard DIMM is just half the solution, only RDIMM (R for registered) with ECC can truly reduce memory issues
>>107406985naw, most ram is underclocked if anything, your average ddr4 ram stick will easily clock 20-50% higher within voltage tolerances. The real trouble comes from cosmic radiation causing bitflips, on a system with small amounts of ram and limited uptime it doesn't matter much, but if you're running a server with >512gb of ram and its almost never restarted, those flips can start to add up, not to mention when emr from solar flares hit at the right now.
>>107424879>naw, most ram is underclocked if anythingThis, back in the DDR3 days, I had a HyperX 1866 kit that would do 2052MHz stable just by cranking up the bus on the FX-8350, no voltage increases on a memory controller that probably wasn't even the best, the thing would've done an easy 2133MHz+ if I overvolted but I didn't want to hurt anything, it does show how little these DIMMs are being pushed.
>>107424003you got lucky, for a time, one day you will get page fault, and you will be humbled
>>107419723He started snorting iron oxide whilst programming.
>>107421831What if you get caught though? Most companies I have worked for would fire anyone for stealing even like a $50 item or something similar.
>>107425606if it doesn't have an asset tag they aren't tracking it.
>>107423203LLMs are so bad that I often have trouble getting them to write a simple 80 line pyqt script without messing up. Also, lots of osdev documentation extisted even back in the early 2000s. And by ~2010, https://wiki.osdev.org had become a very good resource.
>>107423203>Please just go back to redd!t/jewtube/wherever the fuck you came from and leave the discussion to nonretardsUses 4Chan = autistic = retard
>>107425625And nobody would notice/see you taking it?
>>107413228I like how they admit they have no proof that it was a bit flip and it's just the result of them giving up trying to explain it.No one has never confirmed a bit flip in a real life event, it's impossible. Ultimately it's far more likely that there's a genuine bug. Claiming a bit flip seems like such a cope, basically for insurance purposes.
>>107406408Why would I need it? I upgraded my server from 32 to 64 GB for free by selling the ECC modules because I wanted a better APU and will not overpay for those shitty "Ryzen Pro" because they are just rebranded regular APUs with ECC but for triple the price. Desktop Ryzens have ECC but they draw far too much power for a server, I tested 5 different ones.
>>107424879>cosmic radiationLmao
>>107426872yeah, look it up
>>107426872https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20251201-how-cosmic-rays-grounded-thousands-of-aircraft
my pc actually crashes pretty often for no reason and it might be the ram although i have ran memtest and nothing shows upmaybe psu, no clue
>>107423203also the fact that having a lot of features was never the idea behind templeos. I think one of the most valuable comments about terry (and something I choose to believe as true) is in a reddit thread, some posts from an old coworker at ticketmaster, who said something like terry wanted to rebuild the network stack even back then and was already working on his own implementations of things from a bizarrely stubborn ground up kind of way, and wanted to enforce it in the company. like he already had an entire canon of what computing should be in his head back then, and finally realized it in temple. and even then it could only have been a partial realization
how much does a 128gb ddr4 ecc platform cost?
>>107406408I've been running ECC on my desktops and servers for 10 years
>>107425314Nah
>>107425673>>Please just go back to redd!t/jewtube/wherever the fuck you came from and leave the discussion to nonretards>Uses 4Chan = autistic = retardUses /g/ = troon
>>107425673Shut the fuck up you ignorant fucking retard. First of all, sizeof.cat schizo is a pathetic excuse of a human being, but he started writing his OS in 2013 or sth, way before LLMs were a thing. Terry had enough documentation in his age as it does now.And nobody has the right to call anyone a kike or newfag when he doesn't know who Donald Fucking Knuth is.You have never even read TAoCP.I never said Terry was not an excellent programmer, but he's not very impressive in terms of being the "greatest" programmer ever.>Please just go back to redd!t/jewtube/wherever the fuck you came from and leave the discussion to nonretards>He says while never having read TAoCPThe lack of self awareness is disturbing>>107427608Nobody here is discussing the ethos of Temple OS, we were discussing Terry's skill as a programmer and his understanding of computers, spazlord. You're(Or the one you're replying to, if you're nta, is) the one who jumped into this conversation with any semblance of hostility.
>>107429921Meant to quote >>107423203
>>107413620>Zig > Rust > Cada isn't in this list
>>107406553it's not end to end. so it might as well be useless.
>>107406575you can thank intel for that. with adoption the price of tech usually goes down.
>>107406761living longer > looking young
>>107419723Covid vaccine he got psyopped into
>>107406408I will buy ddr6 ecc
>>107428112You can run it on AM4 provided you don't need the advanced features and only need reporting and autocorrection. The problem is prices are through the roof and it's more expensive when it first launched and I brought it with an expensive impact to my wallet when it was almost $700. I am considering selling mine if this continues since I am considering downgrading to a 32GB pack and upgrading GPU instead but adjusted for inflation, it hasn't hit that mark yet.
>>107420575I don't play any modern vidya nor do I work on my *personal* computer.
>>107420487>VMsThose are not containers.I was asking what tools do you use to manage the containers (i.e. docker-compose).
>>107414164bro, we just throwing the old servers in e-waste, just few months ago we threw away over 500GB RAM it was DDR3 ECC i thinkfunny shit, before we threw them in ewaste some of our workers "took" CPUs out of them, one guy "took" the power supplies for his home projects... but nobody took the ram, its some old DDR3 ECC who the fuck cares, throw them in garbage
>>107419723>katana linuskek. That's ackshually a Finnish doctoral sword
>>107425779there has been a speedrunner running some mario game and a bit flip caused him to skip some part of the level, which was confirmed later by others that the recorded behavior only happens if a specific bit flips at the right time
