>unused RAM is wasted RAMTurns out efficient software was indeed the way of the future.
>>107425808Firefox is the most efficient software. Makes sure you don't waste anything.
>>10742599916gb goblin detected
kneel poorfags
>>107425808i love how gayeye negatively effects everyone even people who just want to buy some RAM.
>>107426134soon they will start human sacrifices to improve ai
>>107425808Not my problem>t. 4GB DDR3 ram thirdie
>>107425808>saaaaaaar my electron slop with react need 8gb to run, saar plz download ram saar
>>107425808Not sure if this is a smart move. They're going to alienate a lot of people and stores.
>>107425808When this all crashes and burns, I hope on everything that these companies lose every single cent of worth.
>>107426159Unironically believable.
>>107426077>GPD Win mini
why dont they just make more ram to help curb the supply shortage as well as making ai ram? wouldnt they make more money that way?
>>107426496Why would they? The world is rewarding them for doing nothing
>>107426015It literally says 50gb being used in the picture, dumbass
>>107425808Oh no... anyway...
>>107426496They profit from higher prices. Why would they change that? Every few years when they get flooded by tsunamis since their factories are all along coastal lines they do it again. Could they change locations, of course. But why would they? It's part of their profit model to raise prices.
>>107426526>>107426610they can still raise the prices while also continuing to make consumer ram, no?
>>107426635spoiler: there's no actual shortage.
What's the usecase for RAM exactly? Just stream your OS.
>>107426496They don't have capacity. Ignore the idiot anos, Mícron would absolutely love to have more capacity right now to outmatch Samsung and SK Helix. They just don't.
>>107426635AI companies are using consumer RAM. However this plan will ultimately fail, it's inevitable. They're building a lot of roads, when cars are super expensive. It will piss of developers, who are the big users of AI, and making PCs prohibitively expensive. Companies will have a hard time buying laptops for developers. This whole problem will collapse AI when users decline.
Do people actually believe AI companies are using non-ECC ram for workloads that 100% require ECC? One of the biggest scams of the decade.
ram is free, you can just download it... doe
>>107426211It won’t early enough. Shovelsellers like NVIDIA are making real profits, and the true losers like OpenAI and Anthropic are private companies, they don’t have to release any financial data and they are backed by companies like Microsoft and Google that make half a trillion in revenue. Only once they build those Manhattan-sized data enters that require 50% of current US electricity production to operate each will the bubble finally pop, because they will reach levels of AI buildout that are physically impossible for our current civilisation even with infinite money.
>>107426561DDR3 manlet inbred goblinYour goblin father fuck a aboriginal
>>107426211When this crashes it's taking the rest of the economy and everyone's 401k down with it. Buy guns, buy ammo, learn decentralized means of communication, get to know your neighbors, and train.
>>107426754Wouldn't non-ECC RAM be better because they want to generate slop ASAP?
>>107426754the chips are the same, just the dimm configuration is different.
>>107425999>has ram sitting unused>loads software>constantly makes software use resources>mad that the software is using the resources he told it to usefor a board centered around tech, there sure are a lot of literal retards that don't know a single thing about computers
>>107425808I don't know if they're actually to blame, but I'm going to blame them anyway: I hate Indians so much
>>107425808kek why THE FUCK did they not delay their exiting of the consumer market when ram is priced 4x higher than usual and is set to be this way until 2027?are their leadership asleep at the wheel or what
>>107426077>russian nigger calling others poor when he needs to steal toiletsnice
>>107426496Because it's too risky and takes too long to build more lines. Yeah, they could build a new factory but it would take years and there would be no guarantee that the demmand would be there 5 years down the line.Their consumers are willing to pay extra for their product, so for them it's good business times.
>>107428783this is the only good decision micron leadership has made in like 10 years. This fiscally makes an insane amount of sense. You do not matter as a consumer. They don't care.
>>107425808Say yo, or anyone really,had an unopened box of GSKILL Trident Z5 neo RGB DDR5 RAM; 32 GB; they found it at a thrift store for like $10 because the seller is stupid and didn't know what it was...Would you be better off hoarding it a PC upgrade, or should you sell it NOW for the market price? which is like ~$700 i believe (not sure )Or will the price keep increasing drastically and you should just hold on to what you have? or is now the ideal time to sell it?
>>107428846this is just the beginning of the ram shortage and supply seems to be gone for the entirety of 2026 so I'm guessing the worst is yet to come
Let me guess how this will all go>data centers need computer components in huge quantities>computer component manufacturers want these huge long term contracts>computer components become prohibitively expensive for the average consumer>the consumer will get used to having a bare bones terminal-like device and all of the processing will be done through a subscription service off-site
>>107427711Now you know what will force the next kardashev level. Gooning.
>>107428865so hold on to it?
>>107428898up to you. i'm personally holding onto my spare 48gb and 64gb hynix kits for future builds or to sell if prices get too high
remember to rotate your ram.
>>107428866That video is antisemitic.
>>107425808you are mistaken. the way of the future is increasingly inefficient software, coupled with increasingly expensive hardware.
>>107428767well, well, well
>>107425808>unused RAM is wasted RAMramlet cope
>>107426496Because they know that AI bubble is going to burst and they wouldn't afford to maintain extra lines, so they just abuse their current capacities to extract extra profit from it.
>>107425808No shit?
>>107426159Well to be fair, they ARE going to need to get their human brains somewhere to plug into their data centers once the world is all out of RAM. You wouldn't want to stifle development, would you?
Ai is cute and all. I have fun chatting with Llms and playing with sdxl/flux but come on is it really necessary to drain computing resources like this?This tells me that the current system reeks of lack of optimization and in the future when things will start being more optimized many of those businesses will fall. They can't sell ram and gpus forever
>>107425999>169 processes you don’t need that many tabs or windows. use archive.is, wayback machine, bookmarks or save the page offline
>>1074264961. RAM companies are trying to shakedown the AI companies to get in on the gravy train.2. They know that it's a bubble and don't want to cannibalize their own business by flooding the market when AI implodes.RAM spike is a key signal we are nearing the top. If HDD/SSD prices spike too we may be nearing the end of the bubble cycle, if this is anything like crypto.
>>107427788Read this shit in a chink accent and gave myself a good chuckle
>>107430819Funnily enough even AI if asked about this will basically come to the same conclusion.
>>107425808Why does it look like american companies are doing everything they can to benefit chinese companies? Why exit the market right when DRAM prices went up and SSD prices never reached HDD levels?
>>107430723Wrong. That video is demonic thus pro-semitic.
Are they using scarcity as a lever to draw people to the cloud and thus big brother approved computing
>>107430914It would be funny if they suffer scarcity themselves so no cloud or AI happens.>>107427917
>>107428865Supply reports from myltiple OEM procurements are saying normalization won't happen till 2028. DDR5/GDDR5 are already spoken for through till then and companies are already out of RAM chips.
>>107430788No one is actually looking to honestly move from llm. Even hlm models aren't being trained or looked at, execs and investors like the idea of data centers and infrastructure building forever if it means their values still go up in the stock market.
>>107430914Yes, all the ai data centers will be converted to server farms that will run consumer OS for millions of users, while "your" PC will be nothing but an empty box with a Windows 12 streaming subscription.Putting actual useful technology in the hands of the end user with personal computing is our overlords' worst mistake and they've been seething about it for the past two decades. They're finally about to fix it.
>>107430819SSD prices have already been going up. Prices are already 30% up since 3 weeks ago. Not as bad as ram but substantial.
>>107430793t. tablet
>>107425808Never, AI has ruined entire generationunless you can do "Hey, AI Optimize this piece of shit"
don't forget to enable zswap.
>>107430788>>107430980>investors like the idea of data centers and infrastructure building forever if it means their values still go up in the stock market.Until someone finally comes out with breakthrough research data that proves all of that can be done with consumer grade hardware and the whole thing comes crashing down.Remember when DeepSeek claimed they were able to train a model capable of competing with GPT4 with a fraction of the hardware and power used by OpenAI and Nvidia's stocks almost tanked overnight? I'm looking forward to seeing that happen again on a larger scale.
>>107430984I remember oracle in the 90s talking about returning to dumb terminals... And somehow they are involved in Stargate
>>107430730
glad i never listened to /g/ and maxed my ram on my 5800x3d build (128gb) as soon as i could
>>107426648There is a shortage on RDIMM/LRDIMMs. There isn't a shortage on UDIMM inventory. Memory vendors are trying to artificially induce a new price discovery. They are trying to make UDIMMs have the same margins that they enjoy with RDIMMs/LRDIMMs. They saw that got got away with this with GPU and COVID shortages with gayming GPUs and motherboards. Notice how bulk of the price spike are on "gayming" UDIMM SKUs? Not a coincidence. The whole ML/AI thing is just a convenient excuse. The lack of "out of stock/back orders" on most UDIMM speaks for itself. Historically, memory cartel has done plenty of shenanigans. They are pulling a fast one again.
>>107428866>the consumer will get used to having a bare bones terminal-like device and all of the processing will be done through a subscription service off-sitestop noticing, goy
>>107431096Why would you need so much RAM on basically a gamer processor? It would've made sense on, 7950x3d so you could compile heavy software, render or run local llm
>>107428767>two jeets at the topOf course they gonna slurp their AI overlord.
>>107428866>>the consumer will get used to having a bare bones terminal-like device and all of the processing will be done through a subscription service off-siteand thats the part where kikes get high on their own farts and crash
>>107431195i didn't use ai back then but now i do. you never know
>>107431096smart move, i did the same got 4 sticks of 48GB i doubt i will think about ram for the next 10 years
I have 32GB of DDR5, bought right as the prices were starting to go up, and glad I did. That being said, I'm running CachyOS and am struggling to even use a fraction of it since I mostly use the OS for gaming. I installed Preload and used it for the web browser and Steam, but what else should I use it for? Don't want ram to go to waste after all.
>>107425808fuck sake i will probably need in a couple of months to make a new pc with whatever max ddr5 is avalaible at the moment for work, and this crap is skyrocketingdo we have already 64 sticks or are we still on 48?I will end buying an outdated ddr3 server...
>>107426170Fuck me I ran win 10 on a 4gb stick of ddr3 for a year what a nightmare. That core2duo laptop was not up to the challenge.
>>10742580832GB is going to be the hard limit for desktop RAM because of this. Anything more is so unaffordable it isn't even worth buying.
>>107428767Never trust jeets to make good long term financial decisions.
There isn't going to be a single non-chinese chip manufacturer in 10 years.
Don't want to be that guy, but many of you faggots had ample warning the moment Trump won and did tariffs.We all got hit at some point in time but the wise ones knew the minor pain we suffered is nothing in comparison to the hell you will suffer in this dark age
>>107428866If they think they can get people who are too dumb to press big flashing buttons to understand server terminals, they can try.
>>107428866Bingo
