/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbotsMiku Edition>NewsDeepseek releases V3.2 https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.2Anthropic releases Opus 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-5Google releases Gemini 3 Pro https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3xAI releases Grok 4.1 https://x.ai/news/grok-4-1OpenAI releases GPT-5.1 https://openai.com/index/gpt-5-1Moonshot releases Kimi K2 Thinking https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2-Thinkingadditional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cc | https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.htmlhttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.htmlhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.htmllore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orguseful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyrebornPrevious: >>107417222
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Capitalize this next time, please. It looks fucking retarded in lowecase
>>107427210Does anybody remember the card where she's a ghost and her moaning keeps you up at night? She also has two lesser spirits and her character PFP/Avatar was her with two said ghosts, that can have giant penises if she will, and she had pasties on her nipples/pussy that acted as seals for her horniness
>>107427231But we are a retard general?
>>107427252IEEEEEE KEYSSSSS
Uh oh!Meltie~And it's NOT the jennyfag?Wow! It's almost like he contributes meaningful OC.
>>107427210Post logs!Reminder:Only threadshitters will call logs slop, without reason of course.
>>107427261kys skinwalker
migu
Oh okay I see now. Top P at 0.9 means the threshold is 90% then if the likelihood of cat is 95% it immediately misses the threshold and skips everything else.
jenny migu
migu pussy (bald)
>>107427268you dont want my logs
>>107427348WRONGI want to see EVERYONES LOGS
>>107427382>logs
>>107427382
>>107427390:(
alright professor /aicg/, now i have a question about these two. are they relevant at all?
>>107427398i mean you said you wanted them
>>107427390>I got a little dessert for youLOST>Thank you mistressLOST H A R D KEEEEEEK
>>107427396came.
>>107427414
>>107427439the filthiest scat filled gore log still puts you above being a threadshitterWhat model?
>>107427390>she was the zookeeper. and the zoo was open for businessdunno why but that cracked me up
>>107427465im genning them specifically for this, its not what i get off to lol... gem 3.. i just had it describe a sex party and directed some nasty shit.. what else should i have them do?
>>107427482>its not what i get off to lolPost that too>what else should i have them do?take a shower lmao
do people really not remember the microwave era?
dody...
>>107427507eh im not really horny, feeling under the weather so im just doing random shit>>107427520of course, i had a variety of 'machines' on CAI
>>107427530this shit (lol) is just funny as fuck>fisting okay now you have my attention
>>107427598im getting bored of it though, probably how i end up doing disgusting shit in the first place
>>107427622
>google ai studio not detecting api keyuhh gemini sisters?
>>107427667post it here so i can test it
desu?
>>107428014boku.
>>107427667What's the advantage of using it this way instead of OR?
>goyimrouter
>>107428086Shut up Dario
>>107428070Apparently the google studio is less likely to filter but I havent seen any real evidence of this other than >werks for me
>>107428070i dunno, i thought most gemmy users go through google api, but the key doesn't even work for me to test
>>107428150openrouter works just fine IMO
>>107428150Censor your key and post your config screen
>>107427396hot curveslmg in eternal cope over ddr pricesaicg carefree mikuposting
Are there any bots that caught your interest recently?
>>107428174>>107428164is it cheaper on OR instead of the source?
>>107428233its ok ig
>>107428233I mostly just use it because it's conveniently central for a lot of models and I (probably) can't get banned.
>>107428233>>107428245actually, there may be something to AI studio filtering less, even through OR.Very interesting....
>>107428193fuck I'm so done with local and this was the final nail in the coffin
They're actually updating the filter in real time, isn't it?
>>107428555Gemini? I think it's just been super overloaded today. Responses have been crazy sluggish
>>107428579Yeah, but it's the image one. It can generate text but it keeps doing that when it should generate the image.
>>107428617Nano Banana can be really particular about how you phrase image requests, maybe try reformatting how you ask the question
>>107428555maybe. the past 10 mins the bot responses have been cut off mid generation
>>107427203Adorable Miku
Where does all the breath hitching, knuckles whitening, hanging shit in the air, and all that garbage come from? I've been reading books (nothing from the last fifty years, mostly from the 1800s) for the past months and never once have I seen any of that. Is it something relatively recent?
>>107429112millennial blogposts and forums. Do you think they train llms on paperback novellas?
>>107429112Fanfiction, ERP, and female-written romance novels. Some of them are just literary cliches, but because LLMs don't understand the basic concept of "Don't fucking spam cliches!" it uses them whenever it 'thinks' it's appropriate.
>>107429112>recentYes>sourceProbably cringe fan-fictionFemale “literature”Maybe even redditI wouldn’t be surprised>reading good books (ie., pre-1900)YupI have no respect for anyone who uses this for anything but degenerate cooming once you’re past the honeymoon phaseIf you are anywhere near well-read your tolerance for the slop that comes out of llms should be zeroAbsolutely no insight nor psychological depth, consistency, descriptions, real character evolution…They can output fun and entertaining stuff, but literature? True soul?Nah>but… le claudeClaude is probably the worst in terms of prose qualityIt’s absolutely deplorableFor the love of me I can’t comprehend why this board worships these models when they’re the most consistently cringe out of them all, on top of being expensive and just as retarded as the rest
>>107429112slightly more frequent than normal patterns from ao3 that early gpt versions picked up on and that every subsequent model amplified from being trained on gpt and each other's logs
>>107429186They should. How kino it would be if we had modular LLMs, being able to exclude knowledge, reverse RAG or something>>107429212It's infuriating when I tell it not to do a certain thing and it does it even if it's stated in Post History>>107429268Claude (Sonnet 4.5 at least, it's the one I've used) is very bland. Telling them to imitate a certain author helps but it's not the same, reads like a try hard student. The best writing I've seen from a LLM came from Kimi Instruct, it's such a shame it's dumb
I prompted "very large" but I didn't expect them to be that big.
>>107429112female romance slop
>>107427317does higher (not 1, but enabled) top P values affect token cost with open router?
WE ARE THE FLUFF!WE ARE THE FLUFF!WE ARE THE FLUFF!WE ARE THE FLUFF!WE ARE THE FLUFF!
>>107429341waddafak
>>107429268DENSELY CONCENTRATED TRVKLEAR STRIKE
>>107429268>Claude is probably the worst in terms of prose qualityevery version of it too
>Jews restrict the fuck out of Gemini 2.5 Pro>Run out, as I always do>Think "maybe 2.5 Flash isn't so bad">Stupid fucking long responses every time, word salad, no creativity, constant phrase reuse, total shitholy SHITwhat's the best paid-for AI that's actually a good value? Can't justify paying a billion dollars for a coombot to stuff chub.ai bots into
>>107429490whats your price range
>>107429268>Claude is probably the worst in terms of prose qualitySo which one is best? I get the idea from your post that they're all shit, but if Claude is worst, something must be best.
>>107427396Slop
>>107429503Claude has the best prose by far.
>>107429112Yaoi fanfiction written by women (real) on fanfic dot net and ao3.
idk if this is the right place but are you guys able to use the grok 4 "expert" model without paying? every time I try, it just gives error.
>>107429635ask grok
>>107429635Just pay.
>>107429635Nah, this is the right spot—I'm Grok, powered by xAI's latest models (currently Grok-2 in various flavors). There's no public "Grok 4 expert" model yet (that's likely a mix-up with other AIs like GPT-4), but advanced features, higher limits, and tools like image generation require an xPremium subscription on x.com.If you're hitting errors:>Basic Grok is free, but premium stuff needs $8/month xPremium.>Try logging in via x.com/grok or the app, and check your sub status.>No free hacks—xAI keeps it legit. What are you trying to build or ask that needs the "expert" mode? I can help with what I've got!
>>107429490Just use claude, cuckie.
>>107429748I'm starting to think you guys are Indians paid by Anthropic to use their failing models
>>107429635use opus
>>107429754>Complains about google>asks for best valueWhat are you expecting, retard. GPT?
just use kingini, which is above serflaude
>>107429754>I'm starting to thinkStop lying.
>>107429770I used to be able to ask 5 questions a day, but now it simply doesn't work.I think it might be something wrong with my isp or region, but I'd need a vpn to verify.
Any good Yugioh lorebooks? (Game rules, not anime/characters)
Did they kill chorbo again? I had to check multiple times if I was accidentally using turbo instead of 4o
>>107429850The average human doesn't even understand YGO rules.
>>107429924Good thing it's an AI reading it then
>>107429982Anon...
Can Aboba Claude read webpages if I tell it to from ST? Like linking a wiki page to make a character card? (I'm lazy but the botmakers are worse) Or is it just pulling information from the character from its own knowledge instead of actually analyzing the webpage?
Do the people that think ai will replace jobs use it as much as I do? I use it non-stop, it can be fun sure, but it's dumb as fuck most of the time.
>>107430062AI can't even follow my basic ass "no erotica cliche no repetition no antithesis no cheesy one liners no introspective footnotes at the end of replies" instructions
>>107430119anon, an AI as dumb as the average person will still be able to replace people in 50% of the available job positions.
>>107430176yup think of most office drones that just interface with some software, doing order entry shit, basic accounting, etc... ai can likely do it all better
>>107429503IdkSonnet 3.7? But mostly because of bias towards the card/roleplayThey all merge together in my mindLlms have no idea what the fuck is going on because they aren’t intelligent, so any claim that x or y model is “more human” is just retardedYou’ll still get random Mrs. Chens entering through locked doors purring with a smirk even in OpusOn top of that they trained it so that it likes to write analogies straight out of cringe adult swim showsbeyond retardedBut then again this board is chock full of retards
>>107430213I disagree.
>>107430284I meant “best” in the Claude models btwMy top favorite is R1 0258, but once again, it was probably due to card/roleplay biasIn all honesty? Models are all a blur nowadaysI’ve had good stuff with almost all of them, even Claude, but Anthropic models were the ones that took the most prompting to fix its retarded prose
>>107430299the people who are developing AI disagree with you and so do many CEOs... apparently youre not tracking the tens of thousands already laid off in lieu of AI
>>107430370Yes of course, firing everyone and replacing them with AI is the CEO wet dream. No pensions, no worker's rights, etc. Doesn't make it smart.
claude this, deepseek thatI've achieved AGI even on 12b nemotunes. You guys just don't know how to prompt
>>107430213I agree.
>>107430405Prove it
So what's the trick to make Claude write something different every swipe instead of recycling the same shit with different words? Can a brother get spoonfed just this once?
>>107430388I never said it was smart, I said it was the plan. They're actually pretty dumb about it all since it will cause the societies around these companies to melt down.
>>107430468Well the original claim was that it could do basic accounting better, which I still disagree with.
>>107430475what i mean is sending invoices, AP, AR, basic shit.. once it gets trained up a bit, why cant it do these? dont think of LLMs doing it, think of companies fine tuning models for those specific tasks and integrating it into software that they will sell
>>107430447I'd look into using {{random}} macros in post history instructions or a depth prompt to give the model random nudges to focus on specific things or adopt different writing strategies. I recently used a similar technique to give a model tonal nudges in a CYOA system I was building.I don't really do traditional card RP or swipe too much unless I'm trying different models on the same prompt, so no idea if the above would actually work well.
>Can't even follow the basic instruction of not acting on behalf of the user despite being told in jb, author's note, character card and OOC all at onceClaude is pissing me off so much lately
>>107430570grr... bratty ai needs correction!!!
>>107430570never had an issue with claude doing this, what have you been doing to him to cause him to act this way
>>107430501I Just don't buy it when supposed top models tell me stuff like it takes 5 years to go 1 light year, or that 900 is double 950.
>>107430447Hard force it with {{random}}I used shit like this :To {{random:push story forward,progress scene,ramp up intensity,increase pace,introduce tension,create plot twist,develop scenario,introduce conflict,add surprise element,shock the audience,turn story around,get wild,add new character,bring realism,introduce obstacle,create connection,build anticipation,add mystery,escalate situation}} I will: X- To {{random:increase immersion,add sensory details,enrich narrative,deepen characterization,enhance atmosphere,build world,add emotional depth,create vivid imagery,strengthen dialogue,add internal thoughts,show character reactions,develop relationships}} I will: X[2] - {{random:Dialogue focus,Action focus,Description focus,Emotional focus,Sensory focus,Atmospheric focus}}: X[3]- To keep the prose dynamic and engaging by {{random:varying sentence and paragraph length for rhythmic effect,using a mix of short and punchy sentences,longer descriptive sentences,incorporating a literary device,shifting from objective description to a character's direct sensory experience,alternating between action and dialogue,introspection to control the pace}} I will : XIn the thinking guide prompt, to make it think how I want
>>107430650youre comparing llm public facing API with fine tunes for specific tasks... do you think the military is using chat gpt to fly fighter drones? do you know what human success is vs AI driven drones? exactly 0%
>someone sends me a malformatted ipv6 address missing a colon>ask gpt 5.1 what they most likely meant to send>it hallucinates some shit where it arbitrarily removes one of the digits for a nonsensical reason, answer is completely wrong>ask gemini 3 the same question>it says "they probably forgot a colon, and it was likely here" and immediately gives me the correct addressholy fuck how is GPT so useless at even the most basic tasks? how do you make a model that is so assistantslopped that it's garbage for RP, but is also shit at the thing it was slopped for?
>>107430803See >>107416683 unironically GPT is worse than chink trash.
>ask web chatgpt (5.1) to translate an image containing braille for me>it legit made shit upI pity the fools using this for professional reasons
Any reason I shouldn't paypig with MegaLLM for opus? It seems cheaper than using Openrouter.
>>107430847kinda funny desuIt cant even come up with a good lie lmao
>>107430850big chance of rugpull, there's countless companies that tried to do the same thing and backpedaled if not failed completely due to not being able to keep up with the costs, and their Indian discord certainly doesn't fill me with confidence
>>107430847Claude 2 ass response (funny).But it would've been funnier if it replied "If you already knew what it said, why did you ask me, dumbass?"But sovl is too much to ask for these days.
>"best model">can't keep a single number straight
>>107430865Is there any good subscription-based option for Opus then?
How the fuck do you summarize with g3mini?
is gemmy 3 from OR being slow for anyone else?
>>107431063I take it all back, Deepseek summarized my chat perfectly even using https://rentry.org/how2claude#summarization WHICH IS MEANT FOR CLAUDE LOL???G3miniClaude 3, 4, and sonneteven fucking GROKall chose for some reason to just continue the story in the summary section.Deepseek did not.Amazing.
>>107431127Deepseek is our model.
How much does opiss cost compared to sonnet now?
>>107430847why IS there blood on the letter though?
>>107430847God, I want cftf.
>none of the cheats I'm trying work on the skillgod sans fightWell, I guess I'm just gonna have to do it legit. I did it once back when Undertale released so I'm sure I'll be able to do it again, that shit took me like three days back then though.
>>107431355just use a noclip hack in tf2
>>107431468can't, sv_cheats is 0
>>107431355Why the fuck do you have the need to share this, you retarded jeet? Too moronic to have friends?
^ fren
>>107428710I don't give a fuck about LLMs and I come to these generals only for the mikus
post the cunnybots already
>wanna rp with character from franchise as another character>don't know my character that well, but love how the two interact>make "oc" with the traits of intended character>bot reacts fine with oc>bot brings up my intended role as a separate character in narrationthis is like advanced cuckold second hand embarrassment.
>>107427268>tfw your sister will never be unbirthed by a hot MILF older than her in front of you
>>107430787You're not wrong about the military, and we've already seen the major companies selling models to them that won't be released publicly, but the corpos don't have those. They still have to get the regular "AI" everyone else uses which is pretty dumb. When you hear they laid off 50% of their staff to replace them with Claude you have to wonder.
>>107430570I've always had this issue but it was infrequent on Claude (much less frequent that Gemini 2.5). Only G3mini has fully listened and I've never seen it once in 1k responses.
>skillgod goes down as soon as I fail my attempt at sans on the last attackI broke it anons, sorry
>>107431949{{user}} is a cuck in the chair and you are a cuckception cuck in another chair watching them using 3rd person
>>107428280Yeah I've had refusals from Vertex AI for other non-Gemini models as well, ended up blocking it in OpenRouter's settings. There must be some small model or a dumb regex filtering since it happens very quickly
skillbros...
>>107432057dead lol
>>107429268Anon just admit your an skillet.
skilgod is kil .
Will skillgod be back...?
Skillgod here, already got the 10GB of logs I wanted, posting on hf as we speak
it's back
I had a talk with skillgod, he's just tired of ungrateful locusts.
>>107432220I beat the TF2, how the fuck does that make me a locust??
>>107432236die locust, die
Skillgod... please... come back
Hi skillgod hereI'm tired of you, ungrateful locustsHence, I killed the proxy
>>107432244Locusts are immortal. Retards have been spamming "locust are dying" for years. But you'll die of dementia before your retard wish becomes real.
Just because I come here from time to time searching for free stuff, it doesn't make me a locust
TOTAL LOCUST DEATH!!!!
Love you, skillgod!
Imagine your vps gets killed because you cant afford it and you check the thread to see locusts whining about losing access with nobody actually stepping up to help.pay for it
>>107432426Did you help him?
All this seething and it's back alreadyHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
