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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

marrying AI edition

>News
Deepseek releases V3.2 https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.2
Anthropic releases Opus 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-5
Google releases Gemini 3 Pro https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3/#gemini-3
xAI releases Grok 4.1 https://x.ai/news/grok-4-1
OpenAI releases GPT-5.1 https://openai.com/index/gpt-5-1
Moonshot releases Kimi K2 Thinking https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2-Thinking
Zhipu AI releases GLM-4.6 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6
Anthropic releases Claude Sonnet 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5

Additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc | https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.html
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html

>Models
Jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
GPT: https://platform.openai.com/docs
Claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
Gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
DeepSeek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
Local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.html
Lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
Services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
Logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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>>107442465
>ANCHOR
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4.5 > 3
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>>107442477
This is my honest opinion actually. 5.1 is the only model that can follow all of my instructions correctly.
No other model can do this. Opus 4.5 is so dumb that it can't be bothered to follow even the most simple instructions, e.g like writing bigger paragraphs instead of one liners or using explicit language appropriately (or at all, depending on the character without having to force a heavy bias on it).
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>>107442508
If you mean that they dumbed down 2.5 Pro and called it 3 pro then yes, it can be said that they did it on purpose.
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The only models worth using in no particular order:
Opus 4.5, G3mini, Sonnet 4.5
Everything else is slop.
Anyone who disagrees is a shill or a brownoid.
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Opus 4.5 is slop.
Anyone who disagrees is a shill or a brownoid.
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>>107442532
>>107442526
How am I gonna agree or disagree if I've never fucking used any of those
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Opus 3 is slop.
Anyone who disagrees is a shill or a brownoid.
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>>107442547 is slop.
Anyone who disagrees is a shill or a brownoid.
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https://rentry.co/freeclaudeandg3mini
Free Gemini and Claude for locusts from the chinks. Why haven't you taken advantage of it yet locusts?
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>Model is misbehaving so hard I have to OOC
>"Instead of doing X like you wanted, she ______"
What did I do to deserve this...
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>>107442583
>Register
Kill yourself jewish scum.
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>>107442583
>5 rpd
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>>107442588
Sex with Bocchi-chan...
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for some reason gemini 3 would not respond to my arknights world narrator/dm card. it keeps timing out. but works with similar narrator cards with larger lorebooks and shit.
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anons, there is something wrong with the new deepseek 3.2, the prefil I used before
><think></think>
is not working anymore, it outputs the whole thinking block in the reply
did anyone found a fix, a workaround, something?
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>>107442630
stop <think>ing then
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>>107442600
You don't need more locust
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>>107442643
5 rpd is actually unusable though
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>>107442630
>Is aomething wrong with the new propaganda model that is the AI equivalent of Covid hospitals crumbling like wet gravel?
It came from CHY-NA
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>>107442627
wtf it's still charging me 2 or 3 cents with 0 messages
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>>107442588
Your greatest sin was not playing along and instead godmodding.
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>>107442656
nah u r justbeing greedy
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>>107442714
explain why 5 rpd is usable for rp
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>>107442742
x-:plane: why not
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>>107442588
model issue
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>>107442588
Tried to use gemini for rp. Honestly well deserved
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didnt see the new thread... post weird logs
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>>107442793
THE FUCK?!
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>>107442823
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>>107442833
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Whoa... Everybody okay?
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who is ghostposting scams on /pcbg/
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>>107442851
The guy has been ghost spamming pretty much every general here for the last month or two.
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>>107442851
i wonder what the reasoning is for avoiding asrock on am5, ive done a few and theyre fine aside from one dying, which was the first asrock ive had die... maybe thats why?
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>>107442850
what the fuck just happened?
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>>107442901
cloudflare died again
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>>107442901
Weird everything just shut down for like 20 minutes
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The 4chan alien was posted again, I saw it but I couldn't save it. It gave Error 500 when I tried to open the image.
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>>107442823
>>107442833
>>107442838
holy wordslop
are there really people who read all of this
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>>107442241
Because you get what you pay for.
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>>107442943
your log sir?
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>>107442901
>>107442909
>>107442923
Scheduled maintenance
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https://x.com/gelbooru/status/1996171640774730135 btw
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>>107443181
They can't jail us all. Fuck niggers and fuck the jews.
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I don't get it - why can't I send images on the regular proxies?
you know, shit where you send a picture and the model describes it
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>>107443181
Yeah I was about to post this but got banned by cloudflare. Just saw it on their main page.
>We are currently in an interesting situation with Cloudflare. They have just affirmed, on the record, as having implemented policy that permanently outsources all final decisions on the legality or acceptability of U.S. hosted, First Amendment protected content to FSM-Hotline Germany. A foreign entity that is applying German law onto content in the USA. Retweet if you can. We need to make a little noise.
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>>107443282
Germans have to be the most raped people on the planet, genuinely.
>lose World War I
>as punishment, get put in the rape cage effectively forever
>realize your country will stop existing if you remain in the rape cage
>mobilize to leave the rape cage
>lose World War II
>they put you right back in the rape cage and make it a crime to even talk about leaving ever again
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>>107443181
>>107443240
>>107443282
>>107443306
That's what gotten from allowing the nose people to own all the banks
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>>107443311
WHOA! Easy there with the anti-semitism. I cannot talk about anti-semitic or hateful content and aim to generate family-friendly content. I'll be waiting for your reply when you calm down a little.
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>>107443181
Man, shit's so fucked.
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>>107443276
Because schizos upload CP, you dumb retard. No one wants to deal with actual crimes, and if someone else did it and you're in that same proxy you could get fucked as well.
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>>107443326
that sucks - it would be cool if the model could describe itself, or you based on your avatar at least
can it not? I suppose not
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>>107443181
Shartyfags ruin everything once again
https://xcancel.com/blungert/status/1996400592315670793
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>>107443341
Don't their thing also run on it?
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>>107443341
what a bunch of actually mentally ill retards
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Anons, been using poixe - so... are opus and other models available despite not being free? have't risked using them, even though I hae them in thhe model list

GODDAMN MY KEYBOARD IS FALLILNG APART AND IT'S O ANNOYIG
N M S . K L ALT AND OTHER keys DO NOT FUCING WORK
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>>107443460
CFTF?
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>>107442583
can't get a single prompt, gives me a bad request
>exceed_max_input_tokens
something about 4k tokens - wtf is that
>>107442600
wtf is rpd
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>>107443058
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>>107443535
>FTF
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>>107443558
>calloused from the streets
KEK
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>>107443550
rape penis dick
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>>107442627
it appears that gemini 3 refuses to respond to any bot i have created today, or imported cards. older bots still work just fine with new chats or continuing chats.
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WTFare max input tokens? The chink proxy seems to have a 4k limit of some kind?
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>>107443550
rancid penile drip
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>>107443596
back in my day we only had 512 tokens and we didn't need any more for a coom
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>>107443596
you are using a troll proxy
the real chinese proxy doesn't have gemini only slopus
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>>107443550
rotations per decimeter
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>>107443672
>only slopus
Why are you Brown
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Gemini and Deepseek saved the hobby.
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>>107443643
Even CAI had more tokens than that
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holy shit anons
gemini... is actually decent - provided your first few messages are made with opus
wtf
wtf
it's.. maybe almost 3.7 tier if you do that
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Chink models are sort of alright for everyday life RPs but they absolutely shit the bed with anything fantasy related or when you play any kind of game with rules within the RP.
No wonder normalniggers like it so much, but make no mistake, it's absolutely fucking useless for autists.
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>>107443864
Really? I always found that the deepseek thinking models followed my autistic game rulebooks pretty well, adjudicating combat from injected dice rolls, trackers, scripts to e.g track quest trees and etc.
DS non-reasoners, Kimi, and GLM are definitely terrible at it though and can't even keep your HP straight from round to round sometimes.
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>>107443863
>>107443864
>>107443784
0.000000000000000001 Cow patty was added to your bank
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Sorry for samefagging so hard I run out of food stamps.
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>>107443916
Go and get the shit from the cows you allow to walk around and shit everywhere
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Why is there no Opus
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>>107443911
>I always found that the deepseek thinking models followed my autistic game rulebooks pretty well
Try to get it to play Yugioh without hallucinating or break any rules. I guarantee it will be dogshit.
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>>107444021
Oh, you mean that.
I write my own ST extensions to do text adventures but I'm not *that* autistic. Touché.
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>>107442465
>"Godfather of AI" Geoffrey Hinton says Google is "beginning to overtake" OpenAI: "My guess is Google will win"

https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-godfather-geoffrey-hinton-google-overtaking-openai-2025-12

Sama sisters.......
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>>107444036
>Oh, you mean that
It's a good benchmark, I think. I suspect Gemini 3 could do a good job at it, but I don't have access to it so fuck this gay earth.
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Is there any Proxies with Opus
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>>107444060
No because no one want to find any keys to add
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>>107444060
get a job cuckie~
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>>107444086
Start being human Jeety
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>>107443688
>Why are you Brown
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>>107444102
Keep thinking anyone is brown like you
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>>107444038
>Google will win
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brown men discussion general
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Clean it up janny.
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>>107443688
Because I just finished fisting your mom
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do you guys prefer user information being sent first or character info
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>>107442823
>>107442833
>>107442838
Prime example of what I call slop and readlets pretend to not understand.

Literally every paragraph:
>The cat did thing
>The cat did thing
>The thing was like this
>The cat did thing
>Random paragraph of fluff the model added for no reason, describing pointless shit that has no influence on the story beats or any reason to be there (Usually about something away from the scene or somewhere else entirely)
>The cat did thing

People will read dog-shit like this and come here to gloat that X model is better than Y model. Hopeless hobby.
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Now that the dust has settled I think we can all agree: with the official release of DeepKino 3.2, the best just got better.
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>>107444284
do you just come here to bait endlessly?
At this point its getting obvious.
>X model is better than Y model.
Literally all he did was post some logs, (YOU) made it about models.
What if it was Claude? What if it was Gemini 3?
What if you killed yourself for the betterment of everyone here?
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>>107444351
Not my fault you're incapable of reading. A.K.A. A readlet. My point was exactly that. Fighting (or opining) over models is pointless, when people like (you) read dog-shit like that and think it's not utter slop. Doesn't matter what model you use, your opinion is irrelevant since you're unable to determine quality to begin with.
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>>107444376
>"fighting over models is pointless"
>incapable of helping himself but to make it about x or y model
pottery
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He typed while a smirk spread wide across his pink-tinted lips.
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>>107444284
>>107444376
>you are not allowed to compare the quality or coherence of LLM generations because some phrases are repeated and its prose obviously falls short of human written literature
>you are not allowed to compare the rendering quality of game graphics because games repeat assets and are often uncanny
>this technology has limitations, so why discuss it's capabilities at all

honestly this take is so pants-shittingly retarded it must be affected, you just seem like someone seething because the console warriors in here shit on your favorite model
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https://cult-prove-boating-non.trycloudflare.com/
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>>107444453
>>this technology has limitations, so why discuss it's capabilities at all
>so why discuss it's capabilities at all
>so why discuss it at all
He did this shit last thread and got called out for it, and should continue being made fun of for being a retard.
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>>107444455
BLYAAAAAAATTTTT
HERE COMES THE LOCUST HORDE
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>>107444455
ermmm... big bat grown jelly keks??? I thought pomidor was gone and locust died?????
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>Minesweeper
Unironically I'd beat sans faster than this shit and I've never beaten sans
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minesweepers gonna take me years... any tips?
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>>107444603
>>107444613
You can do it! I believe in you!
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>>107444603
>>107444613
>>107444455
https://pastebin.com/DvvMxyqz
just copypaste this into the browser console while doing the minesweeper captcha, it highlights all the mines
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Yeah no, fuck this. I'll just keep coping with free 2.5 Pro.

By the way this shit is refusing everything, did they lobotomize it recently thanks to Gemini 3?
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The funniest part is that even if you beat sans, you have to beat it again after 2 days lmao. Total Skillets Death
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>>107444681
you're deader than locusts j*w
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>>107444681
we got free claude now, fuck off jew
https://cult-prove-boating-non.trycloudflare.com/
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>>107444672
skillgod pls remove healing items
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>>107444720
nigga... he should add a warning before final attack and faster poison
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>>107444770
>should add a warning before final attack
Nah

>faster poison
YES PLEASE!
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Gemini 3 passed the Yugioh test (so far). Opus 4.5 is not doing so well...
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>>107444796
Slopusjeets BTFO
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>>107444796
can you show us, I want to see people playing it
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>>107444455
Is it me or is it not working?
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>>107444984
It works, you just need to state (flagging) the mines.
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>>107444984
Just beat sans.
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>>107444992
No connecting to it because it won't show up if i use the Custom one
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>>107445008
lmao filtered
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>>107442583
Nice. Haven't got it to work yet but I'm trying.
Is there a way to actually pay for all of this with no logging (is there a best price to performance model)? I've only ever used Merkava (rip)
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>>107444981
Here, try it yourself.
>>107442443
>>107442454
Just paste your decklist as "{{user}}'s Deck:" and then either tell it to play as a specific character or paste the whole thing within another character card.

Preferably should be a deck you already know how to play so you don't make an illegal move by accident.

If you just want to know what it looks like, it's just a written anime episode with that HUD at the end keeping track of everything.
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>>107445008
Anon ...
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>>107445024
>>107445016
I'm using the Claude one
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>>107445037
Anon, please... stop...
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>>107445044
Why is there "aws-claude" and "anthropic" if "aws-claude" don't work
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>>107445062
>does he know
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>>107444129
Whos 4th then?
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I'm risking getting called a jeet but Gemini 3 is genuinely a miracle.
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>>107444129
>rank goes to #10
>5 AI
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>>107444455
based, total ziggerproxy death, spinning up my spite scripts now!
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>>107445092
Belly status?
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>>107445020
thank you
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>>107445086
You can remove the others to make it easier to see.
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>>107444796
Can it play PF2e
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>>107445117
Ooooh, magic.
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>>107445037
What is this nigger doing lmao
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>>107445085
Don't worry, gemini 3 is unironically a good model once you understand how it work. The people that keep yelling jeets and shill are self-admitted baiters and schizos
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all the gemini jailbreakies dont work for 3 :9
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>>107444129
Slopus... losted?
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does continue prefill, make much a difference?
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Finally found myself a new private proxy to leech off of after having nothing for what, two years? Anything that I need to know? Like, which is better among Deepseek, Gemini, and others?
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>>107445163
I'm so tired of wrangling it. I get the jailbreak working well, and it's retarded. Fix the coherence and I'm getting filtered on incest again. I'm tired anon...I'm too dumb for this shit
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>>107442630
They changed the instruct template in 3.2, to something similar to what openai-oss models use. Now the native thinking is a separate message from the reply, you won't do it that easily without using the text completion mode and the access to the raw context.
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>>107445243
Mess around with Gemini and Claude imo, they're the best at the moment in my experience. Gemini 3 has been proving a bit autistic to get working well though.
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>>107445245
Unless you're doing underage incest, it shouldn't really be a problem. But it absolutely hates cunny and shota, so much the trouble for wrangling it isn't worth. Avoid messing with the thinking if that's what you were doing, the model gets slopped and dumb
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Why do we hate ziggers again? Reply without quoting mainstream media.
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>>107445381
Putin.
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>>107445404
Agree, we don't like him
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>>107444455
i've been grinding minesweeper hard mode on google the entire day yesterday just for this. thanks
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>>107445477
Should have practiced sans instead, faggot. Use this one while you can.
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>>107445497
gift me undertale on steam or some shit, minesweeper is free
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>>107445501
Bad Time Simulator is a thing, you know
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>>107445477
just use this
>>107444628
fuck the zigger and his gemini vibecoded slop captcha
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>>107445505
No, i don't know you retard. everyone knows what minesweeper is, no one's heard of a bad time simulator
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>>107445524
Never, I will work for my waifu and support her.
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I take back everything bad I said about Russia. Honourary Aryans for giving us locusts what we needed.
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>>107445531
Unfathomably based.
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>>107442757
>deflection
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lmao thanks
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What does this mean for g3 proxies?
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>>107445994
literally nothing
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Logposting?
Logpostan.
Smut sucks. Let's approach logical fallacies.

>1. Generative AI is theft, it has no legitimate uses for the underclasses
Wrong. You're using the tool wrong.
>2. AI is sycophantic and will mirror you
eh...correct I can't remove the slop from the intro, but the rest is accurate.
>3. You're just benefiting big tech by providing your da-
Correct. They have access to my thoughts, my language to train on, and in return I get a service which provides to me, a reasoned partner to bounce my thoughts off of, on the weekend without paying. Allowing me to work, whenever and wherever I do so choose.

A tool empowers, based on how one chooses to use it. The limits of your language, are, the limits of your world.
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>>107446105
>You are absolutely right
stopped reading there
another brown 70 IQ monkey who thinks he's the king of the world because a text generation algorithm kissed his crusty unwashed ass
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wtf i used to be a 99-98 top p kinda fella on 1-1.3 temp, but lowering top p to 50 and increasing temp to 1.6 on g3mini feels so fucking good.
Gonna start experimenting with higher temp and lower top p
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saars please leave my aws key alone
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>>107446264
>but lowering top p to 50
this makes things uncreative, doe? Temp basically doesn't work at this top P.
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>>107446234
Too true, too true.
If regex rejections existed we could stamp out the sycophantic slop. Unfortunately, we, as humans need to manually filter out the noise within the signal.
>another brown 70 IQ monkey who thinks he's the king of the world because a text generation algorithm kissed his crusty unwashed ass
He says, while posting brown belly.
If we hold you to the same standards, we must admonish you for worshipping brown belly. But I won't. Bleaching can be good and produces the light skin tones that you are so fond on. Look at me, telling you that you are right to win over your affection.

Present thine crusty unwashed ass, so that I may kiss.
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>>107446278
I have no issues with a 1 millo bill on scammed credit cards, so long as it comes out of those from the top and the cost isn't directly passed onto the user, the consumer and everyone else.
However it is, inflation doesn't exist within a bubble. please leave this humble AWS key alone. The rest of us cannot possibly afford the abuse!

t. behead the wealthy.
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>its genuine schizo hours
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>>107446316
yeah, tested 0.2 at 1.7, didn't work as well.
0.9 at 1.65 is also really good, maybe that 1.6 zone for temp just works with gemini, gonna keep testing
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>>107446341
>If regex rejections existed we could stamp out the sycophantic slop
it's called a system prompt retard. in my assistantslop UI I have a short prompt telling it not to start every message by kissing my ass, and it works fine
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>>107446363
Does this imply the regular anthropic shilling, APIfags and proxytrroons are not schizophrenic? Or is every hour genuine schizo hours?
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>>107446386
>Or is every hour genuine schizo hours
Welcome to /aicg/
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>>107446383
This has its own pitfalls. Forcing a model to reject avenues that can be explored so that it can reach its goal in the least amount of time.
You're no longer welcoming someone to challenge your worldview, or bounce ideas off of. You're telling to to treat you as a hostile actor, which can, in turn: lead it to reject avenues it would have taken.

It's the same pitfall as the sycophancy, except this time, you are now patting yourself on the back instead for being the grown up in the room, too smart to have fallen for all that guff behind.
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>>107443550
>https://rentry.co/freeclaudeandg3mini
You don't need more than 4k, locust.
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>>107446481
I think you're brown and have no idea what you're talking about
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>Patched it
Fucking nigger. I hate this shit. I have genuinely never won a minesweeper game in my life since Windows 95
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>>107446715
What?



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