>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUGaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500FWorkstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5, *On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet*Most listings online are not actually 7950>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700) Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt-Used: 2080, 2080ti*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pMidrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)4k : 5070ti, 9070xt-Native/High-end: 5090>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X71440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
>News & RumorsMemory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027RTX 50 Super, 2026 launch? Potentially cancelled, likely q3 if still being releasedNova Lake 2026Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"AMD FSR "Redstone" Arrives December 10, Exclusive to Radeon RX 9000 SeriesMicron consumer memory (Crucial) is no more>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-suppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviews https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews>Monitor Hunter https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/ >Other helpful LinksMobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PCGerman autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.Pic:>>107449791Previous:>>107447240
Is there any point to installing my monitors driver? It doesn't seem to do anything besides add a colour profile.
We had a good run, didn't we /pcbg/?
Do I buy a 7900xtx from microcenter for $699I don't care about FSR, raytracing, I just want VR and 4K performance and seems like best bang for the buck in that regard
>>107451363isnt 9070xt $579 there? i'd get that. oc 9070xt matches or exceeds 7900xtx.
Okay /g/, rather than toughing it out for a few more months with power limits on my GPU running on a 650w PSU, I caved and bought kilowat PSU and a bracket to install it into my ITX case. I'm pushing the limits of what this little case can handle, it's gonna get absolutely STUFFED. I'll post a pic when everything arrives
>>107451275no such thing as monitor drivers. at most it does like you said add a icc profile.
should i be updating the bios on this b850 board too my 9800x3d's due to arrive
>>1074513637900 xtx only makes sense if you're really indo AI stuff, 9070 xt is a better gaming card
>>107451275>doesn't seem to do anything besides add a colour profile.Because that's usually all it is.>>107451363Just a 9070xt or 5070ti>>107451314no
>>107451314I have memory and storage for 1 more build. If prices don't skyrocket in the next 2 weeks, I'll grab a GPU and be set for 2026.
Talk me out of this shit guysI have a 3080ti with 32 (4x8gb) ddr4 ram with a 5800x but would like to upgrade to something better for ultrawide 1440p gaming. This is actually cheaper than of you were to part it out considering ram prices (of which it has 64gb) at the moment. That and I could delegate my 3080ti build to the living room which I've been wanting to do for like a year now so I can couch game without having to snake wires from the 2nd to 1st floor.
Is it worth upgrading from a 4070 Super to a 5070Ti? I didn't really have any plans on upgrading at all and was initially planning to maybe get a 6070 but given the DDR5 mess and rumors about increased SSD and GPU prices (in addition to scarcity) I've got a bit of FOMO that I'll be suffering from the 12GB of VRAM. The 5000-series super cards have been pushed back to at least Q3/Q4 2026 so it feels like we might not even see any launches at all next year and although the 12GB has been fine for me up until now it would really suck to start hitting VRAM limitations when GPU prices are on the rise and it also seems like every game is tailored for the new industry standard which is 16GB of VRAM.My current specs:9800X3D32GB 6000MHz CL302TB + 4TB NVMe4070 Super
>>107451418Only big downside is Intel sucks but the comparable ryzen systems have half the ram
>>107451381Welcome to the 1000W GODRACENever worry about a GPU upgrade ever again
>>107451275read the .inf file in notepad>plaintext;==================================================; U3225QE.inf Version: 1.0 07/24/2024;; This is setup information file for monitor.;; Copyright (c) 2024 Dell Technologies Inc. All rights reserved.;==================================================
>>107451422get the ti and sell both down the line if you're still intent on the super
>>107451418Prebuilts are out there using pre-rampocalypse prices. I'd go for it. Depending on the price, of course.
I make changes in stuff on my C drive and I have to right click and refresh for me to see the changes, is it dying?
>>107451444I was planning on waiting for 6000 series but who the fuck knows if it'll even be out in 2027 or not
>>107451418I can never do prebuilt you'll never know what parts you'll get even the positive reviews the parts may be totally different for each person
>>107451431>Never worrykekuntil >>107451102 some new connector joins the power plan>happened to me more than once, /anons/
>>107451450what version and build of windows?
>>107451491w10 ltsc
>>107451431>Never worry about a GPU upgrade ever againI dunno about that, but I'm at least set until UDNA 2. Hopefully I won't regret not springing in the 20 dollars extra for the 1200 psu, but paying 20% more for only 8.8% more watts didn't sit right with me. It'll be fine, surely GPUs and CPUs will get more efficient...
>>107451476I wouldn't hold your breath on any next gen stuff. CPU, GPU, I bet it's all on hold. The 5xxx Super cards proved it. Probably never released. And I predict we haven't seen the last of 8gb GPUs. Also, we'll see 8gb ram prebuilts return.
>>107451499ok i make a folder on c:\, make a text file in folder, it works, rename text file, instant refresh.>or do you have a petabyte of futa thumbnails in view? >plz describe how to replicate
>>107451501>It'll be fine, surely GPUs and CPUs will get more efficient...If you want efficiency you'd buy Nvidia. Pretty sure a 5070ti can run just fine on a 650w PSU, assuming it's a modern PSU with the right connector, because there's no way I'm chancing shit with adapters attached to a 750+ dollar card.
>>107451545my desktop is actually cluttered with .xlsx, which is not what I usually do, I need to organize everything and turn on the NAS and throw the data in there
>>107451516If steam box is a success 8GB will be here forever But I think Valve using 8GB VRAM was a mistakeOne of the biggest things devs complained about with the Xbox was Microsoft saying every Series X game also had to run on the Series S and its weaker hardware limiting what the devs wanted, limits they never had on the playstation 5. Think many cited VRAM being a huge issue.
Current guesses on the Steam Machine release price? I'm saying $1400.
>>107451580399
>>107451580After seeing the GN interview I said $1000 and that was before this RAM shit.
>>107451592Same same. No release date, no pricing... Valveknew what was coming and was never going to corner themselves with low price promises. I was at $1000. $1400 seems realistic.
this has been quite the year for nvidia
>>107451501>but paying 20% more for only 8.8% more watts didn't sit right with me.You made the right call. Futureproofing is more often a money sink than not. For a 9070xt it's recommended to have a 750w minimum PSU and it uses 8pin connectors except for the super high tier OC models that are sporting the housefire meme connector, for those it's recommended to use an 850w PSU. At 1050w you already have more headroom than you need or will need if you upgrade to a whole new platform. That's a big IF, because PSU standards change, as do the connectors needed for new hardware. It's all a guessing game, and the safest move to make is to splurge, but just a little bit for peace of mind so you don't get burned to badly later.
>>107451629and this isn't even all the drivers that released this year, it's like half
>>107451487>really shitty adviceWhat is controlled/prescribed burning
>>107451629581 to 590 is wild but at least (some) physx is back
wait so plain jane ddr5 ram is cuckedaren't you supposed to chadmaxx with cudimms?8800mhz or bust is itall sr 2x24 kits too
>>107451658um ahkshually it was 581 to 591, they entirely skipped 585 and we're probably going to see r600 next year
>>107451629I am so pissed off that they killed pascal right on a driver that needs a hotfix, they should have pushed one more driver in before killing it, now you have to keep 2 files for your old 1080s and 1070
>>107451639>It's all a guessing game, and the safest move to make is to splurge, but just a little bit for peace of mind so you don't get burned to badly later.NO! IT'S NOT GAMBLING, IT'S AN INVESTMENT! MY 1500w POWER SUPPLY WILL LAST ME ALL MY LIFE!
>>107451561disgusting>the digital equivalent of hoarding
7600X3D combined with 32Gbyte DDR5 4800Mhz CL40. How bad will it be? X3D seems to be way less affected by slower RAM, not too many options for me currently
>>107451671>drop support of gpus after a year of catastrophic driver releases that broke literally everythingdevilish
>>107451671The worst thing is that the file size increased by 20MB despite dropping support for maxwell and pascal
>>107451662it doesn't do anythingyou can do 8800 with UDIMMs as wellbut sure
>>107451657idk an RTX 5090 with an sff 130W chinkshit power supply?
>>107451672anon, some investments turn out bad, that's why it's incumbent on smart people to mitigate loss by diversifying their portfolio. AM4 chads won bigly, but the people who put all their eggs in the AMD basket and bought RDNA 3 cards, well, I bet they wish they'd bought RTX 4000 series instead.
>>107451629>595.02 already in previewthey are speed running drivers. i have never seen so many drivers released in a single year
>>107451712anon look at the pic I replied tolmao, however
>>107451727can always switch sides>free market and all
My friend broke his graphics card by overly adjusting it with a sag bracket.>Told him to loosen the I/O screws and pretty much rest the sag bracket under the corner, not touching the fans, then tighten the screws back up.>Bro jammed it in there, kept adjusting using a leveller to make sure it was perfectly level, said he heard a click when he did it.>6 months later his card stopped working.
>>107451737>the picthats my post retard>they call it a "thread" these days
>>107451247So...how much storage on your machine. I'm gonna be up to 9tb soon.
>>1074513811kw is barely enough these days
>>107451750rookie numbers
>>107451739who are you quoting
>>1074517501.5 tb
>>107451753shilling kw psus is >>107451487 a meme
>>107451750Main NAS: N100 4x4TB Crucial MX500 Sata SSDsBackup NAS: Ugreen with 2x8TB WD RedsLaying around: 2x4TB Lexar NM790 I wanted for a faster flash NAS but 10Gb networking is the bottleneck so I scrapped the idea.
>>107451767read.the.link
>>107451750
>>10745175013tb. moving up to 17tb soon
Why don't we just use SSDs as RAM?
>>107451782No it's not. Why would you buy a 5090 and NOT overclock it? A kilowatt PSU is justified for that tier of performance.
>>107451821too slow
>>107451745
I'm really hopeful the current RAM prices are a spike and they'll settle down in a little while. Nothing low as they were but not absurd as they've been getting.
>>107451825>Why would you buy a 5090 and NOT overclock it?
>>107451821We do.
>>107451848>He thinks it won't get worseGet ready for $100 per GB to become the new norm.
>>107451247
>>1074517507tb internal, 12 external
>>107451825>that tier of performanceOverclocking it so it uses 30% more power will only get you less than 5% more performance, there's a reason why they stopped at 700W
>>107451857not all of us
>>107451875feeding it 30% more power gives you about 15% more performance because the 5090 is heavily power limited at stock
After wating for 2 weeks for e-tec to ship my 5080 and 4k oled, I’ve pulled the trigger and asked them to send me a 5090 instead of the 5080,
>>107451855That was a 4090 and the new 12v-2x6 cables have longer pins.
>>107451887>Using over 700W stock is being power limitedWhat did he mean by this?
>>107451827Surely the DRAM Cache of an SSD is just DRAM?
>>107451915stock is 575-600W though
Question for ya /pcbg/:I've got 4 kits of 2x16GB RAM (8 sticks total), 2 of each kit are the same brand/timings meaning I could hypothetically run 4 sticks of either set. Two kits are 6000CL36 and on my motherboard's QVL list as potentially being stable with 4 sticks, the other two are 6400CL32 and not on my mobo's QVL list at all. Given the current state of RAM, does it make more sense to hold onto the two kits with worse timing in case I need to run 4 sticks (already occasionally get close to maxing out 32GB when working with large video files+browser bloat) or do I keep running 32GB, sell the rest and hope for the best?
>she needs to repaste her system at regular intervalsembarrassing desu
I hate the AI bubble. Cant buy ram
>>107451925It is getting fed 600W over the 12vhpwr and at least 75W more over the pcie slot.In reality it's actually sucking more power through those two channels because the power lines aren't really limited and they feed as much as the gpu ask.
>>1074519455090s draw 11W from the pcie slot at most, just to power the auxiliary rails, fans and rgbs
>>107451913>t. 12v-2x6 beta testerthank you for your service, but I'll stick with tried and true 8 pin connectors for now
>>107451825this thread is full of zoomers afraid of computers
>>107451750My main is a 2 tb ssd + old 0.5 tb ssd for backupthen I have a 4 and 8 tb hdds
>>107451937You can still get 32GB for under $300.
Reminder that low capacity SSDs (even SATA) are excellent to be used as virtual memory drives, saving your main one. 128 GB models cost next to nothing.
>>107451945>sucking morenot with a good PSU it isn't>overcurrent protection is for the weak anyway so go ahead and buy that cheap PSU>inb4 "advertised" current protectionand thats how >>107451855 happens
>>107451936didnt know these are a thing. are they any good?
should I just bite the bullet and get 64gb for 500 leafbucks?
>>107451937>Le bubbleIm tired of constantly hearing about it being a bubble and then the bubble never bursting.Yes, it is mostly useless and hasn't achieved anything. It currently does little but function as a glorified search engine, to having niche uses in specific industries.It wouldn't be allowed to burst though. Being ranked at a 4 quadrillion dollar industry means that it transcends the laws of economics and common sense, meaning if any downfall were to occur, the government would gibs or outright collapse.There is no bubble, as a bubble implies it will be allowed to go down.Our only hope is that 11 Jinping can pump out the cheeseburgersmacker 5000 which does everything US AI does ten times better and at a fraction of the original price.
>>107451981shaddap, sonny boy.>boomer representing the shit that was new when i washttps://www.computerhistory.org/timeline/1964/
>>107452041
>>107452036they are fucking awesome.
>>1074519356400cl32 sticks are more stable since they're hynix m or a-die. they'll be easier to run at 6000cl30 than it is to run four 6000cl36 sticks.i'd sell the cl36s and keep the 2-4 of the 6400cl32s for personal use
>>107451936Anon, computers are like cars, in that I mean you only need to check oil once in the engine's life time. I've been using the same FX6300 for at last 10 years, never repaste it nor even changed the stock cooler.
Thermalright Frozen Edge 240 - $73 CADhttps://www.amazon.ca/Thermalright-Frozen-3300RPM-Bearing-LGA1150/dp/B0C8THKNNPMSI MAG CORELIQUID A15 240 - $79 CADhttps://www.canadacomputers.com/en/aio-cpu-liquid-coolers/268246/msi-mag-coreliquid-240mm-liquid-cooler-black-mag-coreliquid-a15-240.htmlWhich one should I get? If it matters, I prefer the most quiet one and easy to install in a tight SFF system.
>>10745142212GB is an issue.
>>107451936Is it better than the PTM7950?
>>107451422sure why notand if gpu prices really do blow up over the next 6 months, holding onto your 4070S to sell later could give you an almost free upgrade to the 5070ti
damn presentmon direct in hwinfo is awesomei don't even need rivatuner up any more
>>107452105much much better, but it's conductive so you have to use tape to cover any surfaces.
>>107451422Bite the bullet, and get a 5080 for that CPU.
>local store has 2x32GB DDR5 in stock for 530€>I cant even use DDR5Thinking about buying it. One per customer, so...
>>107452137I did my GPU with that too, but from Thermal Grizzly. Totally solves pump-out issues, but you might need thicker VRAM pads or putty because the sheet is like 0.2 mm thick. And it's really single use.
>>107452075That's reassuring to know, thanks anon.
Man I really want to try Linux on my new 5080 build tomorrow but I just know I'm gonna have trouble with shitI'm so sick of looking at windows
>>107452137not like fukken that tho>anon does not know how to cut a mask
>>107451703apparnetly so
>>107452174so use some rando distro as the test bed for a while>you can dual boot
>>107452146that's a shit tier price why are you fomoing
>>107451381I've never heard of Montech, but to be fair I only build a PC once every six years or so. Are they a reputable new company, or a Chinese bomb manufacturer? If it were me I'd have sprung in for a corsair, used them in all my builds with no problems yet.
>>107452090SFF cases are all different. Just check if the pump block fits, if the tube length matters, and if the tubes butt into your I/O heatsink or DIMMs. AIOs are almost all functionally identical, but if you care about sound, I recommend a low profile Thermalright air cooler instead, the biggest you can fit. You'll want to replace the fans either way. Ideally Phanteks T30, Noctua G2, or Silverstone Air Slimmer 120 depending on your free space, Arctic P12 for budget.
what RGB software are people using? signal, open, mobo specific?
fuck new pcsreturn to xp
>>107452200cause Ive seen people gush over 700€ prices online.
>>107452208More about cases and cooling. Budget, but good quality. Don't know about their PSUs though. I have a case from them the Montech King 95.
>>107452208I'm not a brand loyalist, I buy whatever is rated well and affordable. Every company makes their share of stinker products, but the Century II has been getting a lot of buzz lately, and not just because it's cheap. It's got good ratings all around, with the biggest complaint seeming to be that the fan grill isn't porous enough, so the PSU is a few decibels louder than it could have been.https://www.cybenetics.com/evaluations/psus/2812/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/WD_BLACK-SN850X-Gaming-Heatsink-speed/dp/B0B7CKZGN6/How easy is it to remove the heatsink from link related? Want to get one, but only the heatsink one is currently available
>>107452222
>>107451247I've got a 3080 12 gb GPU in my PC that I primarily use for research and simulations in grad school. I can't tell if I'm getting FOMO'd or if I should actually try and get a 5070 ti while the prices are actually decent. My research relies on a library that only has CUDA acceleration, so I can't really go team red or Intel if my 3080 shits the bed, and I'm starting to get really worried that GPU prices are about to be permafucked for at least a couple of years once the current supply dwindles out. Do I just suck it up and buy the card even though it's not really a financial decision, or do I take the risk that my card might randomly torpedo itself and I won't be able to afford to replace it?
>>107452233God I wish
>>107452208theyre alrighttaiwan based, they used to be just a nameless manufacturer for other companies but started making their own stuffthey used to make some of rajinteks cases back when rajintek took off, decently reputablenot 100% sure on their product quality but ive heard few complaints and they dont really make anything thats just objectively awful from the looks of times
Would you return a gpu with this level of coil whine under load?https://voca.ro/19k9tRbOcrn0Obviously it’s hard to judge how loud something iss off of a recording, but still. Fans are at about 2000rpm here.
>>107452279GPUs dont usually just randomly die. I run my nvidia GPUs undervolted/overclocked to the tits for years at a time with 0 issues. you should be fine, and if it does die you could always just pick up another used 3080
>>107452279It's not really a smart financial decision.* I need to get some sleep. I can technically afford to buy the card in the sense that I can spend the money, and the charge won't bounce, but it's definitely not a smart idea. It'd require I eat into my emergency fund in a time when funding and employment are super uncertain.
I just bought the 14600k based on this threads recommendation, but now I'm learning about their manufacturing issues that cause oxidation and degradation of the chips over time. What should I do to stop this from happening and why is it still listed as a recommended CPU if this problem still exists?
>>107452279
>>107452301Should be fixed; but run the latest BIOS. Don't buy them used though.
>>107452279>try and get a 5070 ti>>107452294>if it does die>>107452296>not a smart ideaya just don't, solutions exist if it croaks, somewhere i have an old Quadro card with many thousands of hours on it in a lab, still /werks/ but the fan is growly
>>107452294> GPUs dont usually just randomly die. I run my nvidia GPUs undervolted/overclocked to the tits for years at a time with 0 issues.Maybe I just exist in a bubble and am surrounded by retards who can't take care of their shit. I know a few other students who have managed to cook their GPUs pushing them too hard doing simulations or ML work for papers. I do underwater acoustic signal processing research that requires 3d ray-tracing with pretty serious refraction effects. The only ocean acoustic library out there that does hardware acceleration at all is CUDA and it's definitely not super well made, so I worry about pushing it too hard and bricking my shit. I've been pushing my GPU pretty hard for a bit over 3 years now and it's definitely starting to run hotter and it seems to be requiring more utilization to do less within the last year or so. Perhaps a repaste would fix that stuff, but I'm worried I'd break something and be turbo-fucked.
Built my first PC and honestly, the fucking stress and anxiety. I actually checked all the manuals and things but whenever you search for stuff you find posts of people complaining, supposed compatibility issues etc. And even checking clearances and things I found some stuff difficult because of my case and orientation of my board. Is that click normal? Is that thing fine? Blah, blah. Is that problem this or that. Read manuals, followed guides and even now I am paranoid. My PC is working, boots fine, ran a benchmark, played a game but I am still worrying.
>>107452279Fuck it bro, get a 5090. Treat yourself.
Replace stock case fans (fractal aspect fans)? How much of a difference will I get?
>>107452351>and be turbo-fuckeddo it and post pics of the carnage>we love /pcbg/ gore here
>>107452371your buttock will have the cooling effect of less money in your wallet.>do you really expect advice from random sperglords to help solve your airflow "problems"?
>>107452356Chill out, bro. Just make sure the temps are fine.
>>107452351Monitor the temps closely under a full autistic underwater load, see how hard its actually being hit. if memory, core, etc temps are under 90c it should be fine IMO. you can undervolt i, and/or underclock the core/memory speeds if you want to baby it
>>107452356>My PC is workingchill out and enjoy, anon, a successful build is worthy of celebration
>>107452361> Fuck it bro, get a 5090. Treat yourself.Lmao, I wish. I can afford to drop 750 on a 5070 ti on my grad student stipend (though it's definitely not a good idea, I could eat the loss). I definitely can't afford to drop $3k on a 5090. That would nuke my emergency fund and probably cause my girl to break up with me for being an idiot. >>107452377I'm usually pretty decent about building PCs and stuff (I've even done some soldering repair work on laptop mobos before in a pinch), but taking apart a GPU for the first time and having it be the piece of computer equipment that pays my bills just seems like a bad idea. My dumbass would probably break something.
>>107452301who the fuck recommended intel-aviv ITT? lmao
>>107452410> Monitor the temps closely under a full autistic underwater load, see how hard its actually being hit. if memory, core, etc temps are under 90c it should be fine IMO. you can undervolt i, and/or underclock the core/memory speeds if you want to baby it I usually have psensor and nvtop sitting in the background whenever I'm running anything serious. It's never above 70-75, but it will stay there 24/7 for weeks on end sometimes. Maybe I don't need to worry about it and I'm just being too cautious.
>>107452445Intel is great if you are doing CPU heavy productivity work and then also want to do light stuff in the background. It's pretty nice having the E-cores to do shit like work on presentations or literature review or something while my P-cores are hanging out near 100% utilization doing work in the background. If you're just gaming or using the PC as a hobby-machine, there is legit no reason to buy Intel over Ryzen though.
>>107452432>dumbassbuy the 5070ti, repaste the 3080, if it werks you can sell it for beer money or pay the snu-snu tax with it
>>107452259>with the biggest complaint seeming to be that the fan grill isn't porous enough, so the PSU is a few decibels louder than it could have been.That's a pretty big con for a PSU, you generally never want to hear it, but if it's still quiet enough to get masked by your case fans or ambient noise, them no biggie, I guess. Just pray you don't get coil whine in your setup, because some pairings of PSU and GPU can cause it, but swapping out the PSU can completely fix it. Generally it's advised to pay more for a high quality PSU to lower the risk of coil whine, since they use high shelf parts and have stricter QC.
>>107452463>there is legit no reason to buy Intel over Ryzen thoughAMD has no relevant DDR4-compatible CPUs
>>107452463>>107452445The OP in this thread it says >CPU Gaming: 14600K
>>107452301Arrow Lake 245K was right there and yet people are still picking the 14600K if you needed porrfag intel Oh and the OP is shit that's why it's still listed there
>>107452301>if this problem still exists?It doesn't, retard
>>107452488which is correctyou're falling for outdated techtuber FUD>I'm learning about their manufacturing issues that cause oxidationthat was a few 13th gen batchesembarrassing for intel but irrelevant for you>degradation of the chips over timethe fixed microcode has been out for a year nowupdate your BIOS if you haven't already>>107452495245K has worse gaming performance and requires expensive DDR5
hello retard here, is memory clock spiking from 300-400 to 2500 for a few seconds and then going back down again while just browsing around with only discord and afterburner open in the background normal? i suppose it's hardware acceleration at work? i might be overmonitoring things
>>107452470>Generally it's advised to pay more for a high quality PSU to lower the risk of coil whine, since they use high shelf parts and have stricter QC.It's a roll of the dice every time, always has been. It's just gotten more apparent now that PC components are sucking more power.
>>107452279A 3080 isn't going to randomly die. At the most it'll kill your PSU but the card itself will live. And it sounds like your work would justify the 5080 if you find it under $1000.
>>107452516If I bought a 5090 and it had coil whine, I could spend a week going through all seven stages of grief, or I could skip to cope and put on headphones. Coil whine is a first world problem.
>>107452481> AMD has no relevant DDR4-compatible CPUsI mean, I run an i5 12600k with 64 gb of ddr4, so I get that. People seem to like the Ryzen 7 5800 x3d and that'll do ddr4. The r9 5900XT is also pretty beefy.>>107452469Sounds reasonable.
Are FSP PSUs any good? The Vita GM 1000w is less than most 850w units here.
>>107452544>People seem to like the Ryzen 7 5800 x3dyou can't buy that in stores>The r9 5900XT is also pretty beefyyeah that's the only option anyone should actually considerbut only if they already have a board, and they don't mind 5 year old gaming performance
>>107452395>do you really expect advice from random sperglords to help solve your airflow "problems"?Yes. Well I am just wondering if there is decent difference.
>>107452537>Coil whine is a first world problem.But it's a problem nonetheless, and one that would be sorted out by now if people didn't just put up with it.
>>107452399Temps seem fine but fans get pretty loud.>>107452417Ahh I really should.
>drop $45 on a "premium" fan>it actually requires an accessory sold separately for an additional $16 to perform as advertised>$66 total after tax, tariff, and tiphow could anyone possibly justify this?
Gooks fuming https://en.overclocking.com/cxmt-launches-its-ddr5-and-lpddr5-memory/>>107452550They make PSUs for medical equipment
>>107452596i don't feel like arguing about this for the 15h timeyou can keep telling yourself that and we can all be happy in our own little worlds
>>107451604Valve could sell the steam machine at a break even price or at a loss. They have steam to recoup losses.
>>107452517> And it sounds like your work would justify the 5080 if you find it under $1000.I'd love to get a 5080, but for almost twice as much money as that 5070 ti, I dont know if it's worth it. The Asus prime 5070 ti (not a great card but within my budget) can pretty easily be had for $750. The cheapest 5070 ti I can find that isn't open box/warranty free is $1399 and also an Asus prime. That's a big price increase for an unknown real use-case performance differences and only about 20% more tensor cores.
>>107452614>Valve could sell the steam machine at a break even price or at a loss. They have steam to recoup losses.Well according to them, no, they said the Steam machine would be PC prices because unlike a console you don't have to buy Steam games, it is a PC. I reckon at most they were gonna offer a $50 or so discount.
I'm really wondering if I should get a 4K monitor. Everyone called the 5070ti a 1440p card but this shit must be inaccurate this shit is using maybe 150-200W at 1440p UltraLike a 5070 would have been enough for my monitor
>>107452628> The cheapest 5070 ti I can find...That should say 5080. Oops.
>>107452597>They make PSUs for medical equipmentThat's reassuring.
>>107452645i got a 5070ti with a 280hz 1440p OLED. few games are near the refresh rate at native res high/ultra settings.I think if you are playing singleplayer 60fps ( likely with upscaling) type of games, 4k would be fine but who knows for how long.
>>107452301Update the BIOS to the latest version, you want Microcode version 0x12F.14600K owners don't have to worry about this; that chip only boosts up to 5.3GHz at stock settings, and the overvoltage issue was more about chips that boost closer to 6GHz.https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/236799/intel-core-i5-processor-14600k-24m-cache-up-to-5-30-ghz/specifications.html
>>107452219good catch. the MSI block is too tall for my case
>>107452301i5s aren't affected. It's the i7 and i9s that you need to watch out for since intel overspecced them at stock and didn't bin the silicon enough to run their lofty specs safely
Between the Lian-Li O11 Vision and the corsair 4000D Frame, which one should I get? Would be my first glass case though.Price doesn't matter, it's mainly for future proofing when I upgrade my GPU and the buttons in the front is the most important thing for me.
>install the new motherboard and ram>everything lights up but no displayjust kill me. There was 0 reason to change motherboard and I wanted to do it just because
>>107452589kek>shitty case design abounds
>>107452829that's not the real reason but no one is gonna watch this 1 hour and 40 minute videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9slwXKUwmnEto understand what went wrongso we can just keep arguing based on vibes instead
>power strip fucking kills itself >replace it with a cheap one since that's the only one I have on hand and I can't just plug into the wall directly>out of curiosity do Stereo Polarity (Phase) Sound Test>suddenly electronic buzzing everywhere It's only past a certain frequency and I can't hear it during normal use but it's there man. I thought audiophiles were crazy. I'm getting a better power strip tomorrow, fuck this. The one I had worked properly.
>>107452850None of that would matter if they kept their i9s to 1.4v base vid instead of their 1.5v target on the K and 1.55v on the KS
>>107452597>They makethat don't matter. different product lines, different designs, different components, different costsbut yes they are an old name in power supplies now, the last one installed was noisy but that was 5 or 6 years ago.
>>107452866>if they kept their i9s to 1.4v baseok and then what happens if you have a motherboard with high AC LL, old/unrestricted microcode and all P-cores in C0? you don't know, you didn't watch the video, you're uninformed on the issue
>>1074528374000D Frame purely because it has fans included.
>>107452837the fishtank meme cannot die soon enough.>imagine, if you will, trying to keep all of the Cheetle out of the nooks and crannies in there, fans constantly washing fine dust all over inside. you have to keep it clean, right? and each time you open the case and mess with it you have the risk you will bork something with your air duster or even to screw up a panel>or do you need the glowie, anon?
>>107452690Dude, some of these games are made like shit. The devs of silent hill f somehow managed to make a game that requires a 3080 to reliably get 90-120 fps at 1080p native. It's pretty impressive. This is exactly why I play exclusively American Truck simulator. The best gameplay around at great framerates, even if I need a 4090 to really appreciate it properly.
>>107452854>power strip fucking kills itselfwhat if the strip going out actually pozzed something?>bzzztzttzzzztzztz forever
>>107452875>high AC LLNot a thing on diy boards before degradationgate because it was normal to have ootb undervolted ACLL>old unrestricted microcodeThat was the scapegoat reason intel gave when shit hit the fan. As far as I'm aware, the clocking behaviour of their chips under TVB hasn't changed since 10th gen. And besides, they already root caused it to a weak clock tree circuit that can't handle high voltages
>>107452597> The big Western companies, SK Hynix, Micron and Samsung.> SK Hynix and Samsung> Western Lmao
>>107452929Can't be it, PC was off when it BZZZTed out, and I have an AMP/DAC so that's another layer of separation. If that was the issue all my USB peripherals would probably freak out as well.Turns out having a portable AC unit plugged into a power strip instead of straight into the wall a bad idea. I'm surprised it lasted 8 months.
>>107452961>having a portable AC unit plugged into a power strip>gol dang was your rig was plugged in to the same strip?>thats a special kind of stupid right there
>>107452943>because it was normal to have ootb undervolted ACLLThe problem with the ACLL on DIY boards was the fact the BIOS would often set a 1.1mohm but the actual board was much lower resistance.The CPU with 1.1mohm ACLL would request higher voltages assuming much more vdroop across the CPU power plane but since most boards have better power planes than the bare minimum, the actual vdroop wasn't as significant leading to the CPU getting a lot higher voltages.
>>107452943>Not a thing on diy boards before degradationgate because it was normal to have ootb undervolted ACLLnot on prebuilts and server boardsalso even 0.5 AC LL is dangerous when you have a 400A IccMax and no voltage cap>That was the scapegoat reason intel gave when shit hit the fanbecause it's trueintel would not be selling new CPUs in 2025 with a 1.55 V cap and 5 year warranty if they weren't somewhat confident in their fixesraptor lake would've been pulled from store shelves if it was unfixable>the clocking behaviour of their chips under TVB hasn't changed since 10th genthat's the problem10th gen had 10 cores max13th gen has 24 cores max>they already root caused it to a weak clock tree circuit that can't handle high voltagesthat's their way of saying it was getting hit with too much voltage and degrading, duh
>>107452984Well the strip said it could handle the voltage so I didn't see an issue and most of the time it wasn't even used at all. Probably should have seen it coming though.
>>107452176the part the tape is on is lower than the die top, it's fine
>>107453003>also even 0.5 AC LL is dangerous when you have a 400A IccMax and no voltage capIt's not bad if the actual board design has a 0.5mohm vcore planeThat's what my board set ac ll with the recent bios versions. It has made the vcore sensor actually line up with that the CPU wants at 6ghz which is 1.4v
>>107452589Same with me. I have 3 Noctua 140mm intake fans (pulling from the case bottom), and they are annoyingly loud over 800 rpm.
>>107453025>It's not bad if the actual board design has a 0.5mohm vcore planestill is if the predicted current is 400A and your vmax is 1.5+ Vyou will still be seeing >1.6 V from the VRMit's less dangerous, but it's still dangerous (on the old microcode)>That's what my board set ac ll with the recent bios versionsnice if true because ASUS definitely doesn't do that
>>107453003Both 10900k and 13900K draws upwards of 300W when fully unlocked. Their firmware has consistently been quite aggressive at boosting for a few generations now and only 13th and 14th gen shat the bed. The problem with 13th/14th gen is that it uses a node that's less durable and they changed something in the alderlake p-core to make raptorlake that also made it weak to high voltage and current draw. Not even the 12900ks or 12900k degrades so its really a design flaw with their raptorlake B0 chips.
>>107453074>Both 10900k and 13900K draws upwards of 300W when fully unlockedthe degradation was caused by microsecond-level spikes that occurred before any temperature, current or power limiter kicked inyou can't truly "unlock" a 13900K, it will hit a thermal limit eventually>The problem with 13th/14th gen is that it uses a node that's less durablei mean yeah that's also a part of it for sure, 5nm is less durable than 7nm is less durable than 14nm, etcof course>they changed something in the alderlake p-core to make raptorlake that also made it weak to high voltage and current drawdoubt it, alder lake runs lower core clocks and much lower ring clocks, it will take longer before you notice any degradationit has lower max VIDs and less cores so any vdroop misprediction is less dangerousbut who cares>Not even the 12900ks or 12900k degrades so its really a design flaw with their raptorlake B0 chipsi wouldn't trust a used 12900KS but no one bought those, and those that did tuned them manuallyso it doesn't matter
>>107453033My 200mm are super quiet at 334 RPM
Never liked noctua, always been more of a be quiet guy
>Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027Really regret not buying earlier in the year. Though I got tied up with some family health problems.
retvrn
I am seriously considering turning around my rear fan so that it is all intake besides the AIO exhaust, but finding a white reverse P12 in my area is difficult for some reason. Dangnabbit.
I narrowed down to the Frozen Prism 240 and Frozen Edge 240. They are both priced the same and both compatible with my case. The only difference I see is that Prism runs at 1850 RPM while the Edge runs at 2150 RPM.I'm assuming that Edge is better just because the fans can run faster?
>>107452854They are crazy, you hit diminishing returns after spending like $20.
>cpu finally here>too lazy to set everything upstarting to think i shoulda just stuck with am4
>>107453373get to work anon
>>107453368both are AIOslop, so try picking a good option
>>107453383be a waste not to use it i guess... lemme just clean up round here
>>107452958checks out, South Korea is an American colony
>>107453409My low profile air cooler is too loud hence myself upgrading to an AIO for my A4-H2O case.
>>107453368Looking at it, the Edge is definitely the more modern design, "v2" of the fan bearing and all. Less flow but more static pressure, and the latter is what you want for radiator fans. It comes down to whether you want the fan RGB or not. You only have space for a 240, not a 280?
>>107453465I hope you got the RAM a month ago.
>>107453537h-haha yea definitely didn't end up costing me $240 last week...
>>107453532>>107453497Just looked up your case, its a meshside so RGB really doesn't matter unless you want it to glow from the inside. Take the Edge then.
>>107453341just flip it around nigga
WHATTHEFUCKISHAPPENINGWITHRAMANDSSDS???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>107453537I have a 32 gb set of crucial 6000 MT/s CL36 ram that I got this summer when I was still entertaining upgrading my main PC to a newer CPU and switching to ddr5. I didn't end up doing that and now am feeling like a goober for not getting spending the extra $70 to get the 64 gb kit because I really do need more than 32 gb and now I'll need to spend like $700 if I want to do my CPU/GPU/RAM refresh.I guess my 12600k and 64 gb of ddr4 4800 will have to last me a bit longer..
>>107453578Oldfags asked that question decades ago
>>107453583>12600k
>was about to buy 96gb for $700>It went up to $750 in the short moment I was sitting down>it's already up to $850What the fuck do I do, bros? do i settle for this cheaper 64gb crucial pro ram instead?I need ram for my new PC but there isn't a single good option
The age of gaming is over. AI slop has won.
>>107453632iktf. I decided to just buy it anyway and if it drops, I'll returned it and rebuy and if it keeps going up then okay fine. Amazon give me till Jan 31st to return anything bought during holidays.
Fuck all of you, I got my shit before it was too late. This storm ain't gonna pass and those of you still wondering wtf you need to do are gonna swept up by the incoming tornado. For everyone else, I suggest we head to the bunker together. >>107453632Sit your ass down and take that 64gb ram. Be thankful I have made the choice for you. Otherwise, your ass would be gone in a few months never to be seen again
>how the general feels right nowhttps://youtu.be/OrEppyHiyoA?si=VQPijVIygRbDPP75
>>107453668let's fuck
>>1074536321/3rd of the biggest RAM manufacturers has already sold its soul to the AI antichrist. All it takes is one more doing the same and then the remaining player will have a monopoly over the gaming market and will be able to charge whatever it wants.It will literally only get worse. AI is coming for your GPU, your RAM, your silicon, the fucking copper in your wires AND your water. All for feeding the coming of the antichrist.
>>107453609An i5 12600k is still a sick CPU in 2025. It's not what I'd buy new if I was building the PC today, but it was what made sense when I built the PC back in 2021 and I've been very happy with it.
Got 4 32GB kits of RAM in hand, only keeping one. Which should I keep:>6000CL36 (36-36-36-96) >6000CL36 (36-44-44-???) >6400CL36 (36-48-48-104) >6400CL32 (32-40-40-103)
>>107453772Sell them all and cop at least 64GB.
>>107453797This is the right answer.
>>107453772Last one. Downclock it to 6000MT/s CL30 (30-40-40) if you’re on AM5 for practically guaranteed stability.
Bros, is it worth buying a Switch in 2025? Getting a V1 Switch so I can mod it without a modchip. I'm pretty much done with PC building. Wondering if I should dump my money on consoles next or continue with emulation.
>>107452589Couldn't you just 3d print your own spacer?
>>107453194quiet, you.
>>1074522793080, 3080 Ti, 3090 are all running on a timer if you don’t nurse them with an undervolt and power limit.They have an unconventional GPU power delivery layout that uses two voltage controllers to feed different parts of the chip (cores & soc).The setup can stress the VRMs that manage the GPU core from all the transient spikes and eventually kill a DrMOS IC.https://youtu.be/rbP0YRhXHCkPopular GPU repairmen aren’t even surprised if they get one of these cards with a blown DrMOS.NVIDIA used safer GPU power delivery design for the 3090 Ti.You don’t have to buy the 5070 Ti if your 3080 is working, but at least set an 80% power limit to lower the maximum transient spikes.
>>107451422I'm kind of in the same boat. Didn't have any plans to upgrade until this whole RAM situation blew up, and now thinking of going from a 4070 to 9070/XT for the additional VRAM, which will hopefully last me until PC gaming completely dies or the AI hype ends. I'll sell the 4070 in the meantime if the 9070XT works well.
i travel a fair bit for work and have always had gayming laptops (had desktops before but laptops are just more convenient) and my current 7 year old laptop is starting to artifact, so i'm looking at getting this. thoughts? prices are australian so it's not cheap but it seems ok for some moderate gayming at 1440p or 1080p for more demanding games
>>107453967I don't know a good way to explicitly undervolt the 3080 using nvidia prop drivers on Linux. I've set an 80% power limit on nvidia-smi, but idk how to do the undervolt. It's super simple on windows using msi-afterburner, but I've been on a Ubuntu derivative (Pop OS, because I'm onions as fuck and their Nvidia GPU support is solid) for the entire life of this PC.
BlWas gonna build a pc but for the first time its cheaper to get a pre-built than building it yourself. I ended up getting the Walmart $1699 pc with a 9800x3d and 5070ti. Last time I set up my pc was 7 years ago when I first built it you guys have any tips? Should I install or uninstall anything? Anything I should mess with in the settings or bios? Im new to win 11 i was using 10 for the last 7 years.
Is the asus xg32ucwmg the best oled I can get right now?
>>107454078If you’re in the US, I’d get the $740 MSI MPG 321URX.Dual Mode and TrueBlack Glossy finish on a previous gen WOLED panel isn’t worth paying $1100 for.It’s also a DP1.4 4K monitor like the cheaper 321URX.
>>107454075I’d uninstall all the promotional apps that may be installed, like anti-virus or some other bundled trials.
I built my PC in 2014. I have an FX8350 and 7870. I have not kept up at all with PC parts in that time. Can you guys give me a retard-proof list of parts? Or guide me or where to start to get up to date?
>>107454203You need to give us country and budget if you want practical advice.OS too (Windows/Linux).
>>107454075I'd wipe windows and do a clean reinstall if it's bloated with spyware. It's not like you have it set up just the way you want yet.
>>107454211Windows. Live in NZ. Budget would be 2K NZD (around $1200 USD)
>>107454248You picked one of the worst times to build a PC.You can't afford to build a DDR5 platform PC with that budget.This is the best I managed. PCPartPicker says a lot of components are out of stock in New Zealand.https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/This is a trimmed-down build that will use the stock CPU cooler (runs loud and hot) and a 5060 8GB card.https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/9j4m4pI'd try to get a video card with 16GB VRAM if you need this PC to last 5+ years.It's getting late in my place, so I won't be around to answer more questions. Good luck.
What are your PC purchase regrets?
>>107454248This is the costlier list with a 16GB video card.You could skip buying the CPU cooler and use the stock cooler if you need to stay within that 2K budget.Buy a CPU cooler if you want it afterwards.https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/nzKbFZ
now that ram is going to shitshould I buy a rx9070 and some ddr4?can someone please help me figure out a cheapish smallish build with a 5700x and 9070?
>>107454349Not buying 20 64gb DDR5 kits 5 months ago to sit on and resell later. My crystal ball must have been cloudy
>>107452837I am happy with my PingPing-O11. Good panels for fish tank.>>107452915what is positive air pressure nerdface
Is 4070 super a good graphic card?
>>107454365Something like this.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gQVRLcThe cheaper PSUs don't provide much value over this $85 850W PSU.Decent 650W PSUs cost around $60~70.
>>107454399Not as good as a 5090.
>>107454409I don't care about your stinky expensive card
>>107454414UH OH STINKY!
>>107454405>1300$jesus...thanks
>>107454414Whatever you buy, it may be the last GPU you ever purchase. The future looks grim so spec up a bit if possible.
>>107454422With such a nice processor and GPU I'm surprised you have such limited storage. I guess it depends on how you use your PC, but I'd have both of those 2 TB drives being at least 4 TB each if I had RTX pro 6000 money to burn.Then you'll actually have a decent amount of space for whatever training data or footage or whatever files you're using the GPU to interact with.
>>107454453it's a secondary machine I leave in a spare bedroom and let run AI gen all the time. The room is uh, hot. For storage I just save to a NAS or backup drives.
Do you really need anything more than a 5800X3D or 5950X?
>>107454489Depends on your use case. Generally no.
What's the best browser nowadays? Still Firefox or something else?
>RAM and SSD pricesNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My RAM is 3200 MHz. Is that good? Should I upgrade to 6000 MHz since that seems popular now?
Is it true AMD graphics cards are for poor people/jeets? Never met an asian or white person that wasn’t using Nvidia. Love me their CPU though.
>>107454604Are you switching from a AM4 build to AM5?
>>107454381>what is positive air pressurea system for the distribution of Cheetle
>>107454466Ah, so you're the one who keeps spamming the AI generated bbc bullshit all over the place. I guess it makes sense you don't need storage for your use case. They store and repost it for free for you, after all.
>>107454574Rebuilding my PC right now and my friend said to install Brave.I just wanted to upgrade my CPU because of bottlenecking in DD2 and other nuslop, but I had to get a new mobo, CPU cooler, and ram as well. PC modularity is fucking sham, they just arbitrarily change the connections to force you to "upgrade."
>>107454574that or librewolf
>>107454611>poor people/jeets>peoplePlease watch your language.
>>107454636I'm talking about the RAM MHz.
>>107454649>Ah, so you're the one who keeps spamming the AI generated bbc bullshit all over the place.no anon, the person doing that is probably a jeet. They can't afford that card.
>>107454070Power limiting achieves the same goal so you're good
>>107454611>>107454699NVIDIA is best at the highest tierAMD is best for medium to low tier
>>107454703RAM speed is partially determined by what type of RAM it is. There's no DDR4-6000 RAM.
should one install windows 11 on a new pc?
>>107454703If you want fast ram you need to get ones with RGB.
>>107454750nab bro use windows vista
>>107454765
thing booted up after scaring me with the orange dram light initially what apps should i be testing now
>>107454726>AMD is best for medium to low tierCheaper isn't better. If it were Intel would be king.
>>107454777prime 95 nibba
>>107454726Yes but you called them people.You have to understand this is incredibly offensive to me.
>>107454787bro that takes so long...
>>107454663are those ram blanks installed now?
>>107454777> what apps should i be testing nowMemory and CPU stability.
Every local store near me "ran out of" SSD and RAM. I hate online store though
>>107454765No. g.skill has ram that doesn’t have tranny lights.
which brands should i be looking at for a cheap second monitor that will swivel 90 degrees and have a decent lifespan?
My build almost done, what else am I missing. Right now just need to plug in case to motherboard and also add the AIO and some tranny fans to the case. So far all MB components are installed, gpu has been installed and power supply is all connected to MB and GPU. Am i missing anything else. That seemed way too easy though.
>>107454611>asian or white person that wasn’t using Nvidiatransexuals will use amd
Why do you hate AMD GPUs?
How important is the motherboard? I do feel like the more expensive motherboards look and feel extremely well.
>>107454830>My build almost done, what else am I missing.>Right now just need to plug in case to motherboard and also add the AIO and some tranny fans to the case.>So far all MB components are installed, gpu has been installed and power supply is all connected to MB and GPU. Am i missing anything else. That seemed way too easy though.It's not hard bro>Case>MB>CPU>RAM>SSD or SATA HDD>GPU (if you don't want to use integrated) >Power Supply>Monitor>Keyboard>Mouse
>>107454818they save their fastest/biggest like 2x32gb 6000cl26 and 2x64gb 6000cl34 kits for the royal neo lineup which has extra bling
>>107454802I don't understand what that means. It's just 32gb of ddr5, I had 32gb ddr4 previously
>>107454663>>107454889you gotta shift your ram one slot to the right to be in the optimal (for stability) slots
Let me guess. You need more?
>>107454915I need less metal around the socket so I can use a ram cooler
>>107454889So they make fake ram sticks or blanks that look like you have 4 slots of ram (gay I know) but I was asking because you have your ram in the wrong slots, you need to move them over to slots 2 and 4. It was possible you had your blanks installed and not your real real ram in yet.>>107454892this
>>107454818RBG is fine, or you know you can just turn them off or install a ram water block like a real chad
>>107454922>>107454892Oh fuck, I was just going off of memory from when I built several PCs for my pals in high school. I though it was 1 and 3, not 2 and 4.Thanks guys. Previously I always had 4 sticks so I didn't know.
>>107454932if you're gonna switch them off anyway, the non-rgb gskill blacks look 5x sleeker than the black rgb with lights turned off since rgb strips are always pale white
You now remember Windows 10 in 2015>UWP>Microsoft Store>Microsoft Edge>Cortana>Ads in start menu>Windows Phone>Microsoft Accounts>Microsoft bought Skype>Xbox Game Bar>Games for Windows Live>Bloatware — The new roaster of Windows 10 accessories had atrocious quality, couldn't be uninstalled, and hijacked file associations.>Felt like beta testing>comes with fucking Candy Crush preinstalled>Windows 10 1507, 1511, 1607, 1703, 1709, 1803, 1809, and 1903 were slop until Windows 11 released>10 years of bug fixing>Microsoft is trying to transform Windows into a “canvas for AI,” with new AI agents integrated into the Windows 11 taskbar
is kioxia exceria decent enough for a sata ssd? not looking for anything fancy, my pc is 10 years old. but i googled a bit and some people say it's a good budget ssd and a few posts say it's trash and will die after a few months so idk
5070 at $555 or 5060 Ti 16GB at $525?
bwos, just want to say the 370 dollar msi shadow 5060ti 16gb is back in stock at walmart. I got it a week ago to replace my 1070 and it has been amazing. If any other bwos are in a similar spot, I recommend it
>>107455436>370 dollar msi shadow 5060tiMan fuck taxes, I wish I could have bought a 16gb 5060 Ti last year because here the price floor for retail 5060 Ti's is 550 dollars.
$660 for a used 4070 Ti Super, worth it over a 4080 if they're 200 more by now?
>>107454422I know CG professionals with less VRAM than that on their own computers.
>>107451682Here's 7950x3d, almost 2 years ago, so no recent games.Not terrible, minus 6-7% FPS and 10% min frames @1080p, compared to 6000 CL30.
>>107455653What am I even looking at here?
>>107455821Effects of RAM speed/timings on fps.
> $840 used 4070 ti superor> $ 980 new 5070 tit. thirdworlder
Have GPU prices come down yet?
I waited and got a 5080 for 900$usd, but now i can't upgrade to am5 cuz of ram
>>107455850New hands down.
>>107455869Just desoldier the GDDR from the 5080 and put it on a DDR5 stick.
>>1074554245070 price seems ok, but some 5060 Ti 16GB models go for as low as $429 rn.>>107455574New 5070 Ti starts at $749 rn. If that's not an option, I'd go with 4070 TS. Cause 4080 is only like 15% faster.
aight that's enough testing for the new chip... now to actually put all these parts back together
>>107455861Mostly yes, except 5090. They're gonna go up again soon tho, due to RAM prices.
So Taiwan pipo are making gamers all over the world suffer, and I'm supposed to be against China. lol, lmao even
>>107455653where can i find this graphics but with 9800x3d? Thanks
>>107455966It's a pretty niche thing to benchmark. Don't even know if they went through all that. Takes a decent amount of time to setup, record data, etc...
Should I buy now? Is AM4 affected?
>>107455889>New 5070 Ti starts at $749 rnHere, it's more like $850-$900 which is on par with a 4080. New prices are often 900 to 1000. Trying to find the most cost-effective upgrade from a 3070 is a pain when all the $700 4080's are scooped up by now.
>>107455889>5070 price seems ok, but some 5060 Ti 16GB models go for as low as $429 rn.Not in my country, $550 new is the price floor for a 5060 Ti new or used. And I am slightly suspicious about this lowest 5070 listing seeing as it usually retails at $600 and competes with 3090's.
>look for cheap ssd>only one is Crucial P3 Plus What type of joke is this
>>107455870y tho, super is better valuewise and the seller gives 2 weeks for testing. if something is wrong with it in stress tests i can just return, so what other catch could be there
>>107454422is that really yours? can you run topaz aion interpolation on 8k videos? I think it requires 80 GB of ram because on my system, 5080 + 64 GB, it just runs out of memory and crashes.
>9850x3d has the same single thread passmark score than the 14900k 400w furnaceit's only 5% better than the 9800x3d, totally not worth it btw
>>107456424It's 5800xt all over again. Not worth it over 5800x or 5800x3d.
SSD benchmark results on a M.2 to pcie 3.0 x1 adapter. I ran out of M.2 slots and could only use my motherboards PCIE 3.0 X1 slot. Still faster than sata at least.
>>107456486What is the M.2?
>>107456490Kioxia Exceria G2
im unsure about mobo and psu
>>107456538they are fine, if you could pay for a better 1000w psu and a b850 mobo you probably should, but those will also work
>>107456547ok thanks
>>107456547btw why 1000w?
>all the Youtube tech fuckers are manufacturing a price spike via telling everyone "BUY NOW OR YOU WILL NEVER EVER GET ONE"
>>107456581will run much cooler due to the large overhead, will last longer
>>107452234>700 bad>500 goodyikers>>107453632>amazon had 390€ 128gb 6400c42 in stock and stock dwindling downconsidering prices of everything else you might as will amountmaxx if it was this cheapnow it's all over>>107454033does it have a 2560x oled 240hz screen? then ok I guess>>107454078the s95f is>>107456299isnt nv3 the same thing kinda too cheap
>>107456581Listen to him and get a 1000w. It will last ten years and that's a lot of time to potentially upgrade other components.
>>107451247Watercooling beginner here: Since the prices for a meaningful upgrade are through the roof currently, I’ve been thinking of upgrading my current system with a decent waterloop instead. I have been wanting to do that for a while, but never really got around to it.I want to do Pump/Reservoir, GPU, CPU, 2x360 radiators. My question: I don’t care much for PC aesthetics, the machine is under the desk anyway. I am interested in Alphacool’s quick release tubing, as that seems like it would make a later upgrade / component switch much easier, as I wouldn’t have to drain the entire system. Does anyone have experience with those and are they actually worth it or are they just a meme?
>>107451766pathetic
>>107456725Quick release fitting generally have poor flow. That being said I don't think anyone has really done the math whether it matters in the real world. An alternative is to have a little longer flex hoses for the gpu that way it can be removed without braking the loop. And don't use clear tubing unless you really are hell bent on it. It breaks down and makes the fluid funky over time.
>>107456757>Quick release fitting generally have poor flow. That being said I don't think anyone has really done the math whether it matters in the real world. An alternative is to have a little longer flex hoses for the gpu that way it can be removed without braking the loop. And don't use clear tubing unless you really are hell bent on it. It breaks down and makes the fluid funky over time.I have access to a guy at Alphacool via a forum, maybe he can tell me about the flow rates. Thought I’d ask here first, though.As for tubing – I really don’t want to see the liquid. The PC is under the desk anyway, so I will heed your advice and avoid clear tubing.
Do X3D CPUs run hot?I don't even own a 9800 or 7800X3D, just a 6 core 7600X3D.Just now at 100% load (unpacking pirated game), it jumped to 70°C, now it averages around 67°C.That is with only freaking 15°C ambient temp.Is it even safe to run it in summer, when it's plus 10 degrees more and it will go up to 80°?
>>107456796yes they do9800x3d runs slightly cooler but gets toasty in stress tests
>>107456773Water cooling is super easy if you aren't after ascetics, such as hardlines and layout. Just make sure to keep it clean so you don't get growth. My first build went sideways and it's very hard to recover once something takes hold.
>>107456819>toasty in stress testsand anything that uses 100% of it too. should run high 80s at the minimum in decompression
>>107456796they definitely run hotter than non x3ds but its nothing serious. like x3d idle = 35-50c. non x3d idle = 25-40c. x3d will also have higher boost temps.
I'm upgrading. Is the Intel Core i9 14900K a worthy upgrade from the Intel Core i5-9600K? Or is a Ryzen better?im a tech retard btw
>>107456859whats the use of the computer
>>107456867Gaymin with a video on second monitor type shit
>>107456796Just figure out stable curve optimizer offset it helped me to lower temps by around 5°C under max load.I got worried when I saw my 7800X3D spike to 75°C all the time but now I stopped giving a fuck.
>>10745685914900k has a troubled history of degradation that's now fixed but in return, its performance has been gimped quite a bit from what it used to beif you want a more balanced modern intel platform, i'd suggest getting the core 7 265K or core 9 285K or the upcoming 270K/290K refresh cpus instead
>>107456602cope or truth nuke? both
Where do I even start building PC? I've only been playing League of Legnds on my potato, according to my research I should get rx 6600 because its the best bang for my bucks but I don't fucking understand how to pick motherboards and psu
NVIDIA RTX 2000 Ada for $650
>>107456883get an x3d chip
I have two different DDR5 64gb ram kits from corsairCMP64GX5M2B6000Z30CMH64GX5M2B6000Z30Corsair says not to mix ram https://www.corsair.com/us/en/explorer/diy-builder/memory/can-i-mix-corsair-memory-kits/ but what is the worst thing that would happen? Just failure to boot? Could it make my CPU explode? I just want to test and see if it might work.
>cheapest 128gb kits are now 950€>I could have scalped them at 390€maybe I should have bought up all the remaining memory stock
RX 9060 XT or 9070?
>>107456937What you'd have to worry about is needing to lower the memory clock to get them to work.
>>107456953but they have the exact same timings afaik
>>107456948Yes
>>107456937those are dual rank hynix a-die kitscurrent ddr5 motherboards and memory controllers will have a hard time dealing with all of that memory if you want to run it at the advertized 6000cl30 speeds
>>107456948how much
>>1074569485090.
>>1074569489070 if you can afford it, it's twice stronger
>>107456897The idea that consumer hardware is just going to remain beyond the reach of the commons is fucking insane. It's basically stating that the entire games industry will accept a death spiral via contraction and elevating prices until they cease to exist, as well as that the circuses that keep people from killing the politicians and businessmen who facilitate all this corrupt backwards horse shit will go away, freeing them up to take on that far more lucrative pursuit.
>>107457021>more lucrative pursuitsDamn so this IS a good thing
>>107456985I can't afford that. >>107456978Total PC budget is <2000>>107457009Maybe I'll get that. Also, I'm going to go with W11 of that matters.
My MSI QD OLED just arrived and it doesn't turn on. Internal PSU is probably fried.This is absurd. This is the third monitor I bought in 10 years that did not function on arrival. I'm never buying hardware new again, Jesus fuck.
>>107457062Buy a prebuilt.
>>107457072how are you this unlucky? I've bought a crap ton of pc hardware including 7 monitors in the last 12 years and only have had issues with two psus. the countless monitors, cpus, gpus, ssd, ram and motherboards I bought were all fine
>>107456937running at slower speeds
>>107457072i bet you there's an issue with the power delivery in your house and it's frying electronics
>>107457072I though my last monitor was DOA but it was simply too cold, so it turned on once it warmed in my room.You are simply killing your hardware with negative emotions :^)
>>107457072It's just memory training bro.
Why does it seem so high?
>>107456903bad time to buy unless you score cheapo ramgood thing you got 2 years of research to do
>>107457148No, I moved multiple times in t hose 10 years, and its only monitors and they all had different defects. Nothing else ever died on me either.
>>107457089>Intel >1TB SSD No
>>107457181Build something cheaper. I'm not saying its fantastic I'm saying its inexpensive.
>>107457161It is high, my 11th gen laptop is at ~10 seconds.
>>107457161my 9800x3d with 2x32gb 6000cl26 ram takes 19.0 seconds to boot while my 10900k with 2x16gb 4000cl15 ram takes 11.1 seconds to boot.Seems normal if you have a ddr5 system
>>107457089A 5080 system at that price is not bad... but are Alienware still using horrible proprietary motherboards? And 0-airflow cases? If you could transfer that stuff to a new case it might be good.
>>107456903To pick a motherboard, start by picking a CPU. Then look at lower midrange priced motherboards compatible with it, and filter out the ones lots of people had problems with. For the PSU, since you're not going to have a heavy load with that GPU, get one of the cheaper ones from a good brand. The OP and extended OP reply have links. I usually get Seasonic or Corsair, and a gold modular 650w-750w model would be great if the price is right, otherwise you could get away with 550/bronze too. Check reviews for the specific PSU model.The problem now is RAM prices got completely fucked by a shortage.
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