Americans and Indian LOVE using woke american operating systems

>>107455167
99% of gamers are retards who cant install an OS.
they use whats already installed on the PC they bought

Because desktops available are garbage.

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>>107455167
I'm tired of seeing this shitty thread with this same shitty fucking YouTube thumbnail practically every fucking day. You already know the answer. It's been answered many many many times.

>>107455167
Developing for and particularly supporting non-standard systems where pretty much anything can and does go wrong depending on system configuration is a giant pain in the ass.

Desktop linux is shit, and because there are so many different flavours, it's very difficult for a devoloper to target. Also, enjoy NVIDIA+Wayland.

>>107455933
I agree but I'm just as tired of tranimeposters.

>>107456003
Feel free to go back to plebbit any time

>>107455167
>'PC gaming' pretty much means Windows
I'll always find it funny how sony wanted to release their games on other platforms that aren't xbox, just to basically end up releasing their games exclusively for windows.
Although, for once, they don't block linux users from playing, but it will always be retarded

>>107455167
Because it doesn't really work. That's the truth.
As much as any Linux hates to admit it, Linux doesn't really work for "gaming".
Linux is great for a lot of stuff, and I love it. But if you play games, then Linux isn't the best option.

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>>107455933
you are watching a LLM trained on /v/ /vg/ /dgg/ redoing the same script every day, wake up, get out of this website.

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>>107455167
Because game developers are anti-white and don't support Linux they love Microjeets.

>>107458985
"doesn't work" is not true
"isn't the best option" is a fair statement, depending on your other requirements/preferences

>>107455993
Plays nice outside of a 5000 series card because of the open drivers, most of that has to do with wayland devs being lazy faggots to the point NVIDIA devs are openly mocking them

>>107455167
>Why do people use windows which comes preinstalled with their computer to play windows games?
I wonder why

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>>107455167
First mover advantage.

>>107461167
It doesn't work at all for Tarkov multiplayer, so it's not worth using.

>>107455980
>supporting non-standard systems
What exactly does this mean? The dependencies are on the graphics library GL/Vulkan and the kernel itself. Once those dependencies are met it's not obvious what would go wrong.

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>>107455167
Most PC gamers have no idea wtf is even in their prebuilt windows PCs if you asked them,they aren't going to relearn using a computer to play their games unless they really want to.If gammers want it they''ll learn ,like DOOM helping sell Windows and take the market from DOS, I don't think Linux would have the same effect on Windows unless you force people to use it or hide it in the newest gaming hardware

>>107455167
It is popular, it's just not more popular than the default software that's preinstalled on a majority of hardware sold. The fact that people go out of their way to install it over Windows should tell you a lot. The alleged 3-11% market share for desktop OSs doesn't sound like much, but that's millions of users, and it's only going up despite not being the default option.

>>107455167
because troon/shitsux is bad

>>107455167
>Why isn't Linux popular for gaming?
Linux getting popular but people need time.
You can't just overtake 3 decades leader for 6 months

>Linux Kernel 6.14 was officially released on March 24, 2025, introducing the NTSYNC driver, which provides support for Windows NT synchronization primitives to improve compatibility and performance for running Windows applications, particularly games, via Wine and Proton

main problems:
- youtube flooded in arch+hyprland tranny videos or neovim idiots who do nothing but changing dotfiles or configs.
- people have zero clue what distro install to get vidya gamez out-of-box without voodoo magic

>>107461295
Armenkike

One of the reasons it's not that popular is LInux only has a few games, about 1/10,000th the amount of games Windows has.

tards will never switch unless it's a 1:1 replacement, meaning capable of running windows programs with no tinkering because they can't grasp the implications and caveats of running windows programs on something that's not windows, even though micropeen themselves can't do it, hence why winapi is never going away
wine really has come a long way though, but I don't it will ever achieve 100% compatibility when even 2007 gaymes can't run on the latest windows

>>107455167
My average linux experience

>install distro, picked mint this time
>can't use my headset since there's no way to use the headset program to activate surround audio, turn rgb lighting off etc, so now the headset sounds like shit and battery life is 15% of what used to be
>no way to change display settings on my old 2nd monitor and linux do not support display saturation/color management whatsoever, ignore it
>shitty hdr support on my main monitor, disable it and ignore it
>mouse acceleration feels way off on linux, ignore it
>okay let's install some games
>all battle.net games are a mess
>waste hours trying to tinker with everything such as proton versions etc until things work
>games finally boot
>fps loss/gains in some games
>minor issues in all of them, some games stutter, some games freeze for no reason, some require more tinkering to work well
>mod support? pretty much gone unless willing to deal with 15+ extra steps
>can't play BF6 due to kernel anti cheat
>wiped everything clean and reinstalled Windows 11

I tried to have linux as my main OS during covid years and couldn't do it, things are better now specially due to how well Proton is evolving, but Linux gaming is just not there yet.

People like to think that Linux is ready to take off as the main gaming OS but they're used to playing just a handfew of games and have dozens of hours to waste tinkering with the OS until everything works, something your average dad gamer will never bother doing.
So, maybe by 2030 we'll have something interesting going on.

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>>107455167
calla duty fortnite

>>107462956
>tards will never switch unless it's a 1:1 replacement
they will not switch until they go to a store and buy a machine with linux preconfigured. people dont really install operating systems except for linux wierdos and less than 5% of windows gamers in the yool, 2025.

>>107463336
to be fair, computers are niche enough already that most people purchasing desktops are willing to fiddle with that stuff
gone are the days where every household had a (x86)computer, the average person nowadays fulfills their computing needs with a smartphone and an ipad

>>107455167
Windows was designed from the ground up by professionals to be a multimedia-oriented desktop OS and it's ever increasing popularity allowed Microsoft to secure full driver support from hardware manufactuers, which remains unparalleled up to this day (even if the OS overall turned into unusable jeeted slopware)

Troonix is a shitty server os sparsely hacked together by a handful of 85iq underpaid communist child rapists in their spare time and that's all it will ever amount to.

>>107463425
>and that's all it will ever amount to.
Recently, great progress has been made to make windows games run on the Lunix colonel. So don't be too sure about that

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Report+sage+move on
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>Why isn't Linux popular for gaming?
Lets look at some facts, Most normies got scammed by njudea so 80% of gamers are using this garbage GPU brand instead of easy AMD which is out of the box drivers with the linux kernel.

So until valve releases steamOS working with nvidia drivers and an easy installer, Most people wont switch to linux because their hardware isnt supported.
This is something valve can do essentially easily but they are retarded.
A desktop ISO and then a "steamOS" ISO is all they need to release with the calamares installer.

But for now people can't use linux.

They can't use linux mint because cinnamon is garbage and nemo is genuinely one of the slowest file managers that takes a second to load folders, literally slower than windows 10. You're downgrading going from windows 10 to mint.

They can't use zorinOS because it has the same problems and its wayland only, so thats already out of the question since people use nvidia.

So the two biggest beginner distros are just plain broken or slower than windows 10 and valve refuses to release steamOS for the desktop. That's why nobody is switching to linux.

>>107463551
People coming from Windows would naturally not be using AMD GPUs since support is absolute dogwater on that platform. It last about two years before being dropped. An AMD GPU is a retarded choice unless you're specifically buying one for Linux.

>>107463551
>They can't use linux mint because cinnamon is garbage and nemo is genuinely one of the slowest file managers that takes a second to load folders, literally slower than windows 10. You're downgrading going from windows 10 to mint.
Mint offers Mate and Xfce editions, with Xfce being the single best DE for Linux in general.

>>107463792
Yea but its not their main edition, even though it should be since XFCE would work on everyone's computers and objectively thunar is the fastest file manager on linux and XFCE has a familiar windows layout and its easy to use. Settings menu is very easy to understand.

The direction the mint team is going in is the same type of self sabotaging direction that wayland devs went towards, never thinking about the end user, only. They are willing to die on the altar of sacraficing all their effort for the bloated javascript cinnamon desktop with a failed file manager.

Instead they could've used fast XFCE that is written in C, is simple and lightweight but they just wont give up.

>>107463551
Nvidia gamers are switching to CachyOS and it's working great and dominating distro usage charts.

>>107463833
Yea cachyOS is good I guess, but its based on KDE X11. Thats not good because KDE just went full wayland only.

What are they going to do when they can no longer update because KDE only wayland will never work with nvidia GPU's like X11's drivers, and it will be more buggy and less performant.

I also dont understand why valve went with KDE either.

>>107455933
My wife Satsuki

>>107463862
What the fuck are you talking about? CachyOS is a Wayland distro, you have to go out of your way to switch to X11 after install, you just made that issue up completely

>>107463885
How many nvidia cards work on it though? Not all of them. Wayland has poor nvidia support even for the cards that do work and there's reasons to use X11 over wayland.

>>107459703
>WARNING: PROCEEDING WILL BORK YOUR SYSTEM
>proceed anyway
>system is borked
>o noes, how could this happen to me

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>>107455167
Just cause money, that's it, people flocked to windows, because it had massive financial backing, which made people work to make it hyper easy to use and appealing, and if you wanna make money you don't target for fucking linux in the early days you build for windows, if Linux had had serious financial backing like valve behind it from day one it would today be the absolute mainline system hands down, of this I have absolutely no doubt. it Will eventually surpass windows as Valve keeps pumping good shit into it, windows and apple are so jeeted and the engineering on apples tech is so bad (per luis rossman vidyas) that It's a wonder apple products don't ship broken out of the box 50/50% of the time.

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>>107455175
Woke? You can make windows however you want even 11 and wrench the update hooks and system calls and spying right out, if you think linux is secure and your running it on modern hardware I have an ontologically good jew trading card to sell you in mint condition.

>>107455167
When Linux gaming no longer requires wasting time with winecfg and winetricks just to try, sometimes in vain, to get certain games or parts of those games working, more people will want to switch to Linux for gaming. Until then, as shitty as Windows is in certain aspects, you can generally just install a game and it will work. We don't even need to get into modding games and the hurdles that Linux can introduce there on top of everything else.

>>107464480
dude...

>>107463401
when will steam products be as easy to use as an ipad? take my money then, but not before.

>>107463032
underrated post

The steam machine is going to end windows soon, it's gonna happen, I'm not pleased about it but it's gonna happen

>>107464507
trying to strip out all the bullshit (never fully because the foundation is shit) and having very limited customization vs having nothing you don't need and everything just working as it should at of the box and for the rest of eternity. windows is such a joke of an os that linux runs many windows programs better than windows does

>>107464983
everyone uses proton. few people actually fiddle with that shit

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>>107463032
I wouldn't say it's that egregious anymore, and wrapper and software implementations and compatibilities like the sort that come bundled in with the deck have made it so trivial that I don't even really have to think about it and even honestly prefer the simplicity and straight forwardness of the approach from the perception of a causal user.. I have dabbled with arch stand alone and getting it up and running on an Nvidia based system with a 4090 no less and had a pretty damn good time, I know its a meme but I used a heavy gaming distro called Garuda Dragonized Linux at the time and absolutely loved it and the theme it came with. /picrel. I loved it so much I might even go back... one day WAY WAY down the line. I always run into issues on standalone with Nvidia but amd gpus are so trash for inference which is my main reason to use Nvidia that I cant be fucked to bother.

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>>107463336
This, but even as someone who was willing to venture into linux in the past I ultimately always found myself going back to windows because I could never get:
1: a virtual on screen keyboard that didn't feel like a fiddly cumbersome ugly ancient outmoded pile of shit with mystery functions embedded in it that weren't fucking stupid and provided zero explanation of how to disable them if GOD FORBID I PRESS THE WRONG THING.
2: 1:1 alternatives or literally my favorite actual programs like Paint Dot Net and Wallpaper engine. yes I know about the shitty ass broken trash community attempt to make it work and its garbage and only for like two types of distro, fucking stupid.
3: Anything I wanted looked and felt outmoded like it came from a prolapsed dog anus in 1999 and was often outright broken abandonware and I'm not a coder.
4: Ability to fuck myself out of a functional Operating system by simply letting the kernal update when linux it's self would suggest doing so.

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>>107464983
Yeah that's another thing.. fucking modding, most instructions are written with windows in mind, even if the files are cross compatible the directory structures don't line up and that's if you can even find the randomly numbered weird ass fucking directory name that linux does for /insert game and its even worse when your doing bottles / wine / proton. vr is fucking trash on linux too if it works at all, enjoy your inside out rendered fucked up mesh because the retard nigger linux code inverts the normals on everything for no fucking reason. enjoy your dogshit performance because you didn't know you needed to install the french language support for arbitrary fucking reasons. Linux should not be difficult to get into for new people coming over.

>>107462285
>- people have zero clue what distro install to get vidya gamez out-of-box without voodoo magic
Not really an issue any more, given how relentlessly Bazzite has been shilled. What really needs to happen though is for Valve to stop fucking around and turn Steam OS into a proper distro, but that's not going to happen any time soon due to Njudea.

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>>107466301
Bazzite is to watered down and has alot of what feel like esoteric bullshit confusing ill explained steps for someone who has never done it before... I found arch easier than installing bazzite ffs, also it wouldn't work on my system.. after it *checks notes" successfully loaded the live os and let me install and fuck around in it and get comfortable with it, and upon restarting to enter my shiny new bazzite environment I'm greeted with... *drum roll* fucking nothing!. and extremely common occurrence I faced repeatedly on linux with distro after distro, again, zero explanation. all linux distros seems to be incredibly unreliably fragile flakey bitches when it comes to installing from a usb stick as well, I could burn windows installer to a stick and then turn around and do the same with linux through a variety of methods, even following guides, almost always there would be some corrupt data killing the install.

>>107455167
Only white people use linux.

Because I have some issues with nvidia and I may want to switch before prices spike up for GPUs because for some reason I think that's going to happen soon, I must ask: how well does the 9070xt work on linux these days?
I remember at launch it was an absolute nightmare for some people. I also know for a fact that my laptop with a 7840U needs a boot parameter to avoid the laptop just freezing completely, so it's like things got worse on the AMD+Linux side. I want to know that I won't end up disappointed to find that my 6600XT works perfectly on linux, but a 9070XT won't, before I spend 700 eurobucks on an upgrade, thanks

>>107466122
Yep. Don't get me wrong I love Linux, it's fast, you can customize it until its just the way you like it and everything, it's perfect.

But whenever you actually try to use it as your daily OS, it's not that great. And 90% of problems comes from 3rd party software and games, which isn't Linux friendly. The average dad gamer with a Nvidia gpu will never, ever bother messing with it.

As Linux becomes more and more popular, companies will be forced to support it and provide compatible software etc. When that happens, Linux will take off for sure.

>>107455175
>LOVE using woke
No, that's just your obsessed american brain. In the rest of the world, no one even knows what that means.

>>107461295
It counts "Android" as "Linux" and every turd worlder has an Android smartphone. These jeets aren't running gentoo fucking retard

>>107455167
I call it WC gaming

I have a harder time switching to linux not because of games, which it does quite spectacularly in my opinion (compared to what I used to experience) but because I like editing shit, and every single fucking open source tool is pretty ass or requires a lot more learning than I'm used to. Just a few days ago I decided to do some RAW editing and darktable made me lose just too much fucking time. Ended up using Affinity instead (which is not a RAW processor, btw), and the problem with that is, it's not supposed to be running on linux. It can crash at any point, stop working at any point, and I'm just very lucky it supports openCL because some dude made it work somehow.

>>107463867
Too bad she will never have a route.

>>107471198
I used AI for that

>>107455167
For 99.9% of the population there's no good reason to run Linux and they will run into problems running some of their games.

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Microsoft is a cloud services and AI company now. It doesn't give a shit about Windows anymore.
In 5-10 years, anyone with a PC will have no choice but to use Linux. Not because Linux will get better, but because Windows will get worse.

>>107455167
just one persone in this thread mention anti-cheat : its the ONLY reason windows is still better for gaming

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>>107467731
it just works

>>107466301
>Bazzite
atomic(immutable) distro (Kinoite + NVIDIA drivers)

>turn Steam OS into a proper distro
You already have Nobara and I'm using it without any problems as the one and only distro for main laptop for gaming and development.

https://wiki.nobaraproject.org/modifications/kernel
BORE scheduler as Cachy and mods ABOVE cachyos.
And you have PROPER FEDORA without tranny SAARch+AUR (malware)

And no it's not ONE MAN ARMY pet project

>date; uname -a
Sun Dec 7 09:20:07 PM EET 2025
Linux nobara-pc 6.17.10-200.nobara.fc43.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Mon Dec 1 17:06:11 UTC 2025 x86_64 GNU/Linux

>>107471310
>it just works
now show us your install date from yesterday
>stat / | grep Birth

>>107456066
tsukihime is reddit tier, newgen

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What do you guys use to game? This sounds insane, but I'm finding Wine or Lutris and the Windows versions to be better than the actual debian builds game devs put out for Linux. At least on Ubuntu and Mint.

>>107463032
>>waste hours trying to tinker with everything such as proton versions etc until things work

The only post here that can be taken seriously.
M$ has a monopoly with DirectX, the DirectX version is always the same as the new Win version and only works with Windows and XBox.
People don't want to play Linux games, they want to play DirectX games made for Windows.
The players are not newbies, they already have existing accounts, clans, Steam accounts and so on.
Linux gamers want to continue to play and compete with (or against) these players.
Proton must become for Linux what DirectX is: A standard that is on par with the current Win version and works on all Linux computers if the hardware requirements are met. Proton and DirectX must be compatible; it must be possible for everyone to play with/against everyone else.

>>107472126
steam for paid games and steam games, lutris for everything else, prismlauncher for meinkraft
i eared heroic is better than lutris for epic games but epic is trash

>>107463032
People like to shit on Microsoft and point out flaws in their software, but honestly that's only because of the sheer scale of adoption. Despite the decades of effort put into Wine and the Linux kernel itself, it's still remains a poor imitation and is by no means a worthy replacement.

>>107472126
Heroic games launcher, I fell out with lutris when it was deleting 50gb game downloads after the install failed.

>>107472183
I know they're just 2D indie games, but basic ass vanilla Wine runs blasphemous, cult of the lamb, and silk song flawlessly and with no crashes for me. 2D indie games is pretty much all I play though.

>>107471310
I ended up ordering it, I have a ryzen 5900X (so no XT), hoping there's not enough of a bottleneck at 1080p that will make me tear my hair out

>>107472134
The main problem Linux development had in the last decades is missing standards. It would be better to buy a license from M$ for DirectX and sell it to the future Linux users, maybe via Steam. From where do you get a running Win-Installation for wine when you have only Linux? You want me to buy or pirate it? AntiCheat and missing drivers are problems that the hardware/game manufacturers have to deal with. Proton is the key.

Because Windows supports 100% of PC games.

>>107472272
dont forget about eroge, basic wine is work flawlessly for those

>>107466734
what about RedStarOS you retard liberal?

>>107472441
A chunk of eroge is basically rpg maker slop so it doesn't even require WINE
https://github.com/bakustarver/rpgmakermlinux-cicpoffs

>>107472442
Best Korea honorary aryans

>>107471233
based
[spoiler]red garden doko ;-;[/spoiler]

>>107471877
>Nobara
Nob(ody) cares. The Steam name has done and will do more for desktop Linux adoption than any one tinkertranny army pet project ever will.

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>>107455167
>Why isn't Linux popular for gaming?
If I can get GOG Resident Evil 2 to work I'll switch. But I'm too lazy because I'm sick.

>>107474139
check lutris website, there's multiple script for it, and a gog integration as well

>>107455167
Because the average normie doesn't have to deal with 1/10th of the horrid bullshit microsoft pushes onto people. That does seem to be changing a bit with 11s newest iterations. Dear god the copolite shit is so forced.

Either way Windows will have to keep shitting the bed for another few years for Linux gaming to become noteable.

>>107455167

Linux is for autistic people. It is not for normal people because normal people have shit to do like not live on food stamps / social security disability income. Normal people turn a Nintendo Switch on and play a fucking game.

>>107475214
>thread about PC gayming
>use a console
I fear your iq is below room temperature, and im not talking about fahrenheit since it isn't a real unit

>>107475510

>/v/ avoiding the stink of /v/ by coming to /g/
>asks a /v/ question in /g/

The stench in this thread.

>>107475535
we're talking about system for gaming, not games, pen thread are here and not on /lit/

You save money with a gaming PC I don't see a issue with owning one when you are covered for 2-3 generations with more uses

>>107474139
Just use Heroic Launcher, and read some wikis and troubleshoots if you encounter problems.

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>>107461434
>relearn
anon they never learned in the first place, if you watch any tech illiterate try to use a windows computer its like watching hellen keller try to read braille for the first time