So Sweet and Naive EditionDiscussion of Free and Open Source Text-to-Image/Video ModelsPrev: >>107452633https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide>UIComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUISwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUIre/Forge/Classic/Neo: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#reforgeclassicneoSD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/sdnextWan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP>Checkpoints, LoRAs, Upscalers, & Workflowshttps://civitai.comhttps://civitaiarchive.com/https://openmodeldb.infohttps://openart.ai/workflows>Tuninghttps://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuninghttps://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkithttps://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerhttps://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tunerhttps://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scriptshttps://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe>Z Image Turbohttps://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image-Turbo>WanXhttps://github.com/Wan-Video/Wan2.2>NetaYumehttps://civitai.com/models/1790792?modelVersionId=2298660https://nieta-art.feishu.cn/wiki/RY3GwpT59icIQlkWXEfcCqIMnQd>Chromahttps://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Basehttps://rentry.org/mvu52t46>Illustrioushttps://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girlhttps://tagexplorer.github.io/>MiscLocal Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmetaShare Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/GPU Benchmarks: https://chimolog.co/bto-gpu-stable-diffusion-specs/Img2Prompt: https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-oneTxt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusionArchive: https://rentry.org/sdg-linkBakery: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage>Neighbors>>>/aco/csdg>>>/b/degen>>>/r/realistic+parody>>>/gif/vdg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/h/hdg>>>/trash/slop>>>/vt/vtai>>>/u/udg>Local Text>>>/g/lmg>Maintain Thread Qualityhttps://rentry.org/debo
>>107455917 (Cross-thread)>google were too big of a pussydesu they've gotten pretty based recently, nano banana pro is still outputing IP characters and celebrities, I thought they were going the OpenAI route, make the model based the first week to get engagement and then cuck it
xir's right chud!1!1!!
>>107455989It's all so predictable. I feel like that guy from the matrix that says the green lines on the screen are people and stuff.Where you see a promise to open source the model, I see a bait and switch scheme with a distill as the carrot.
>>107455942>IP characters and celebritiesNaked?No?
>localkeks really believed alibaba would spoonfeed them a fast uncensored 6b hentain base model trained on lolibrownoidal delusion at its finest. local is eternally losing. you will pay for novelai's finetune
>>107456013>Where you see a promise to open source the model, I see a bait and switch scheme with a distill as the carrot.Alibaba promised Wan 2.1 -> they released itAlibaba promised Wan 2.2 -> they released itAlibaba promised Qwen Image -> they released itAlibaba promised Qwen Image -> they released itAlibaba promised Z-image base/edit -> ...See the pattern?
baba paid bghira to pretend like she was going to report tongy so they could ban her and look like even more of an open sores hero
>>107456015>but muhh coomnot everyone is an addicted coomer anon, I want to make quality memes, and NBP is the best place for thathttps://www.reddit.com/r/nanobanana/comments/1pfhd7q/spaghetti/
>>107456026Yeah I don't see 2.5 or even the latest QIE. I see a company moving from open source to SaaS and I see a fool who defends them despite them being about to plunge a knife into their back.
>>107456051>2.5was never promised>>107456051was never promisedSee, this is how it works at Alibaba>When they promise something -> they always released it>When they don't promise anything -> It's likely API only
>>107455989even on trooncord comfy gets clowned on lmao
>>107456065>T-they released the distill before the base model because they wanted to epically pwn BFL!>I-it's not because they can't and won't.You are a retard. A fool. Incapable of understanding Chinese culture (a point you keep dodging around) and will never get the base model.
>>107456075>T-they released the distill before the base model because they wanted to epically pwn BFL!That is correct, and it's the most brilliant marketing strategy I've ever seen in the field of AI. They destroyed BFL's credibility with this move.
>>107456093He looked so young in that image.
>>107456070do it Comfy, hire the turkish god!
>>107456097I feel like your 70's is your roughest decade, you're getting so old between 70 and 79, it's the real moment of decline
>>107456051This would be a far better argument against BF lab, which did fuck the community in every way possible and only answered by wishy washy "someday now" for 7 month for releasing their new model.As it is now, it's what, 3 weeks? I can wait another week. It's not like it's BFL buckbreaking people for 1 years straight. You're overeacting.If Alibaba proves itself BFL tier then it would be a problem, but Alibaba absolutely proven itself not BFL tier until now. Benefit of doubt, you know?
What happened to Qwen Edit? There was supposed to be a November release for that too.
>>107456116Oh, you just ASSUMED there would a release? How entitled of you. Did they ever SAY there would be a release?
>>107456123>Did they ever SAY there would be a release?they didn't, so yeah, can you guys stop making stuff up and only stick to the facts?
>>107456116>What happened to Qwen Edit?that Qwen team saw how powerful Z-image edit is and they gave up kek, they know no one is gonna touch their giant 20b slopped model anymore once Z-image base and edit are gonna be released
Something unexpected definitely happened.
>>107456141>and they gave up...on open source releases that is!
>>107456153The model clearly didn't pass the Chinese open sourcing criteria.I don't understand why people don't know this is a thing.
>>107456167>the Chinese open sourcing criteria.yet the most uncensored model we've gotten those past 2 years was HunyuanVideo, this shit can make vaginas and dicks lol
You guys are still arguing about the fucking base model?
>>107456167I have a simple question though, if they knew they would never release the base and edit model, why did they promise it then? They could've just said "we only release turbo and the rest will be API, just to be clear" and no one would give a fuck, lying about it makes everything even worse
>>107456188>why did they promise it then?The didn't. You just do not understand Chinese culture and what they mean when they say things.
Personally I'm fine with Turbo. Flux 2 proved how powerful distilled models can be. We as the community can just de-distill it ourselves. And SDXL is still such a powerful model, it's not like we need a new base anyway.
>>107456196>The didn't.
>>107456206Why do keep ignoring my point about Chinese culture?
>>107456226I don't care, a broken promise stays a broken promise, doesn't matter if the chinks think it's a normal thing
>>107456238I think you're in denial about the very obvious writing on the wall about this thing never being released.>Constant pushing around of timeline>Vague confirmations>Imprecise language regarding hurdles to releasing base modelMaybe you only deal with large releases, so you're not used to this pattern, but to me this is a very obvious walking back of open sourcing ambitions.
>>107456253didn't alibaba betrayed the /lmg/ fags like that? I'm sure they promised at some point some Qwen llm model and it didn't happen
>>107456300I'm not 100% on the specifics but they were pissed for some reason.
>>107456206>Tengyi
A hero.
>>107456376never got this "grab them by the pussy" meme, he said quote: "those women LET ME grab them by the pussy", so it was consensual lol
>>107456413You forgot to ask me: I do not consent.
>>107456419you're not a woman though, you will never be a woman
Looking at flux 2's size, starting to feel like my increasingly venerable 4090 is well on its way towards obsolescence. Going to need to run at it, what, Q3 or Q4? Maybe Q5 could be squeezed?
I got comfyui up and running for the first time on my amd gpu on windows, it works like 5 times and then I get a ksampler bug that freezes the screen and leaves the computer unresponsiveit's probably driver issues because I wasn't using even 10gb of the 16 gb vram pool, this stuff on windows is too experimental still
Animate her
>>1074564262 gpus on your normal desktop is the future until they start making 48gb mainstream gpus in 2030
Elf in dwarf's hat
https://www.reddit.com/r/comfyui/comments/1peywrf/100million_pixelworkflow_for_zimageOMG GUYZ, 100 HECKIN MILLION PIXELShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LHpR8uYTIs
>>107456426i'm offloading about half of it and it's not as slow as you'd think
>>107456413You mean they let the rich and influential guy running the beauty pageant do it? In the similar vein as choir boys let the priest do it.
>>107456426what's the point of using flux 2 though? it's more slopped than Z-image and the anatomy is way worse
We still arguing about base?
>>107456457rich and influential guys shouldn't be allowed to have sex with women anymore then? that's your point?
>>107456463they are both kind of bad, picture 1 is sameface asian yet again while picture 2 is sloppy but has a stock photo feel at least
>>107456469>We still arguing about base?I can feel this is gonna be long, not only we'll have to wait for the base, but those bickering will not stop until then >>107456474>a stock photo feel at leastyeah I sure love my stock photo to have hands with 14 fingers
>>107456463Some styles and general non-human gens are very nice on flux. I really like it for that. Other than that, meh.
>>107456479>but those bickering will not stop until thenGet ready for eternal bickering then.
>>107456425>obsessed
how are you guys working around the same-pose with different seeds on z-image?
>>107456509>I was the one who pretended to be a woman in order to create the possibility of being sexually assaulted by Drumpf. But let me tell you how you're the obsessed one.
The more I look at zit gens the less real they look
>>107456376
>>107456530I got a surprise, they're not
The base model is still not released because she's still with us, just saying.
>>107456530they still look pretty damn real to me
>>107456527-> /pol/
can the zimage even make white people? I think it defaults to asians
>>107456530I mean, even Nano Banana looks fake to me
>>107456556-> /lgbt/
Next weekend right?
Gemini can use images as prompts (not img-to-img. if the image has text or any design cues connected to the text prompt it will use those, you can create accurate art of characters or "adaptations" of books this way), is there any local model that can do the same?
>>107456539THE TURKISH GOD DOES WHAT THE FUCK HE WANTS!
>>107456559>I think it defaults to asiansfor an asian model that's coherent>>107456559>can the zimage even make white people?of course, you have to say it though, "a caucasian woman" or "a white woman"
>>107456439I shan't be animating your saas giga-slopfaggot
>>107456440I'm probably out at that point. >>107456452Interesting, is that the Q8 quantization?>>107456463I feel like if I actually cared about the subject in the prompt, neither image is acceptable, but right is closer. Because the hands and other minor anatomy issues can be fixed easily enough with inpainting, but the background scene is closer to looking like a real argument, albeit one of the men looks more like laughing than arguing. Also a little more variety in face and hair on the right, maybe 2face compared to the 1face on the left. Left looks like the same two people at two different moments in overlapping frames while right looks like an actual dynamic scene albeit with various problems.
>>107456048This picture is obviously fake
im so disappointed i will never be able to call anon fucking retarded when base releases and it's bigger than 6B.
>>107456048how much are you paying for making memes lolchump
hows your weekend goin fellow proooooooooompters?
>>107456781>how much are you paying for making memes lolsays the localkek paying Nvdia thousands of dollars to get a beefy gpu btw
i swear some of zit loras on civ are fucking placebosi can turn it off and it shows the same shit but less blurry
>>107456742>but the background scene is closer to looking like a real argumentthey're all smiling though, where's the argument, it looks like they are throwing a party
>>107456806Historically civitai loras have mostly been garbage made by retards. 97.5% is like this.Same level as their example images and prompts...
>>107456806ostris made a v1 adapter, then a v2 adapter, then he undistilled turbo so that the loras trained on it get better, it'll take time but it'll get better
>>107456806no shit. most loras do things the model already knows.
>trying to use ultimate sd upscale>zit keeps genning body parts and vaguely melted faces into random background objectsSpoopy
warm, waterproof, easy to clean, clear garments are clearly :) the future
>>107456789
>>107456905are they posing in front of a sun? jesus that is so bright
>>107456093>They destroyed BFL's credibility with this move.retard
>>107456908ZiMG struggles with reflections in mirrors
My current favorite pastime is open the gens itt and trying to figure out the hyper specific fetish of the anon who posted them
>>107455809Just i2i the image with sdxl
>>107456929You won't call me wrong though.
it is wrong because with Flux2 being what it is, it was dead anyway
>>107456908>>107456935it works most of the time, some fuckups, yes.
>>107456929>>107456093>Number of loras on Z-image turbo: 396>Number of loras on Flux 2 dev: 26oof
>>107456999Trips of truth
>>107456048So it's censoredGot it
>>107456999actually this is a major win for Flux 2. Flux 2 takes way longer to train and is way higher parameter count. If you compare compute-hours, Flux 2 is in the lead for hours spent on lora training. I think we should start switching towards Flux 2
Number of loras on Chroma:Hard mode: Number of non-furry loras on Chroma:
>>107457032>I think we should start switching towards Flux 2
>>107456999>Z-image is 5.3x smaller than Flux 2 dev but has 15.2x more loraslmao
>>107457029local models are censored too, can you do Clint Eastwood holding Marilyn Monroe with a local model? nope, because they're censoring their dataset so that it doesn't know celebrities
>>107456999You can easily OOM on a 6000 Pro training Flux.2 and most people seem to have have 8GB GPUs or less, so...
>>107457077it's convenient to make a big model desu, everything is excused when it's big>yeah it looks like shit and it's slopped... but you say that because you can't run it!!>yeah people prefer to make loras on the smaller model that can make actual realistic humans... but it's just because they can't train the big model!!Just make a big model and every criticism towards the actual quality of the model can be ignored! GREAT SUCCESSBtw, HunyuanImage 3.0 is the best model since it's the biggest local model of them all, it's that simple
>>107456999>Number of loras on Z-image turbo: 396Most of them are synthslop desu and shouldn't count. There's no QC on civit.
>>107457077damn, this just shows how dedicated the flux 2 community is! flux 2 really is the future of local
>>107456742What model made that image?
>>107457122Pixelwave flux. I'd post the workflow but it is an old picture and I don't have it anymore.
>>107456997
>>107456997that girl needs to eat!
>>107457060Projection overload
>>107457150holy moly what an ugly woman
>>107457194What do you mean?>>107456977>it is wrong because with Flux2 being what it is, it was dead anywayZ-image changed the paradigm of everything, when only Flux 2 dev was here people were like>yeah it's big and it's not much of an improvement, but what can they do more? maybe it's not possible to optimize more without stacking more layers, so I'll excuse BFL on that oneThen Z-image turbo came out and people were like>Holy shit you can achieve this with a 6b model? BFL is actually an incompetent company when all things are considered!
Kleinsisters, do we have an ETA?
>>107457218I think it'll be the first time we'll get a size distilled model right? will this be hard to train too?
