You literally don't need more than 16gb of RAM unless you're a GAYMER scum. I'm good for the next 7 years desu.
>>107468476ask me how I know you dont use a computer for any actual work
having 64 gigs is so great. feed me tears
>>107468476you don't need more than a bicycle for transportation.
>>107468476I got 96gb cuz it was cheap.
>>107468476I have 16Gb and I hit the limit constantly. I play no games.
>>107468476I'm a swe and regularly (everyday) hit 128GB, am I a gamer scum, chat?
32gb of ddr4 is too much already
>>107468583Same boat, I'm a poorfag so I'm thinking I might sell 1x32 so I can buy steam's new vr headset faster, even having only 32gb is still way beyond plebian tier
Mandatory rust and electron flatpaks in Linux says otherwise.
>>107468476I only have 16 gb because I found a matching 8 gb on eBay. I really only use about 4 gb.
>>107468620free memory = wasted memoryYAGNIunless you're running multiple virtual machines or docker.Or using QubesOS>>107468476>You literally don't need more than 16gb of RAM unless you're a GAYMER scum.indeedI just 3 months like upgraded 16 to 64 and nothing changed.Even AAA games can eat about 5-7Gb RAM max and up to 8Gb VRAM.4chan full of lowIQ chimping incels who measure RAM\VRAM and hi-end hardware as extended part of their dumbassnigga mindNobody care about their LGBT lights and overTHROATing
having 64+ RAM helps to compensate for lack of VRAM when running AI workflows. that's the only practical use case as far as I know
>>107468704>Or using QubesOSI run Qubes and didn't notice a difference upgrading from 16GB to 64GB. It slows to a fucking crawl on 8 and works fine at 16 so people assume more is more but it really isn't.
>>107468476Or you're a programmer and want to run your own AI model.Or you want to create a video from video generation model. Or you want to create images. Or you want to do video editing. Or you are a data analyst and are trying to crunch numbers
>>107468524you cant do actual work on a computer
>>107468818These pajeets bots are getting dumber and dumber by the minute.*Shoves my cock down your robot throat*
>>107468747>run your own AI modelyou need VRAM for LLM, not RAM (unless you're retarded and using CPU)>>107468728>people assume more is more but it really isn'tis you running qubes I suppose you understand all bottlenecks of your system (CPU, SSD\HDD(iops), RAM).People know basicsNPC consumer wants just "best of"
>>107468476I do data analysis on datasets that can be over 100GB. 16GB would significantly show me down.
>>107468476>GAYMER scum. Autistic retard
>>107468874I was gonna say you cant buy 128GB of GPU vram for $100, but then I realized we're in a RAM shortage, I expect GPU prices to increase by 100% as well
>>107468476>You literally don't need more than 16gb of RAMOutside of a few data intensive practices, what use do you actually have for 16GB of RAM?Think about how much data that is. If you render text in a non-visually disabled fontsize, you can fill 400+ pages of A4 with 1MB. Think what space 16GB physically printed should consume...Think about what got done with mere kilobytes at disposal. Do you feel like that is giving you value?
>>107468728I run Qubes, and 16GB is manageable, but 32GB is better if you want to be able to have like 10 different DispVMs + vault + Windows VM open without having to close old ones.
Not even gamers need more than 16gb if you can install linux.
I use Firefox. I NEED 64gb minimum
>>107469009I don't think I have ever had more than 7 qubes running at once admittedly. And I have never used a Windows Qube.
>>107468476cope
>>107468874>you need VRAM for LLM, not RAM (unless you're retarded and using CPU)Many workflows use several models at once. Especially video and image models. System RAM in these cases is key. You need 64gb minimum for this kind of work. Keep up with the times old man.
>>107469023just get an extension that allows you to discard background tabs
>>107469064there's actually an unload tab option in firefox. dunno since when but it's neat
>>107469126didn't know that, does it have "unload all other tabs" or "unload tabs in other windows" options?
>>107469023>I use Firefox. I NEED 64gb minimumHOW MANY TABS DO YOU GUYS USE?That's fucking insane. with 11 tabs on a firefox (fork) It uses 900mb. do you have like 200tabs+ open or something?
>>107468476>unless you're a GAYMER scumit's the other way around retard, you can game with 16gb of mem, but any serious work will require more than that, also this >>107468524
>>107469176no, but if you wanna mass unload, just select all relevant tabs, right click -> "unload X tabs"
>>107469178Some people are living examples of jevon's paradox, they will use every single byte of RAM available to hoard tabs and run ADHD shit in the background until the computer doesn't work, and adding more memory or making your programs more memory efficient just makes them spawn more tabs and use all the memorySame with disk space, some people just download endless amounts of shit and never use it until the storage is full and then ask "why computer slow"
>>107468620I remember going for 16GB in 2012 (or 2013?) because it was super cheap. Not having to upgrade memory for 10 years feels good.Got 32gb in my am5 rig, and I could find a 7000MHz kit very cheap. I could sell it today for twice the price.
>>107468476>7 years specifically Windows 10 IoT LTSC 2021?
home server.lots of services running.32 is enough for me right now.
I use VMs so I need moar
>>107468476>unless you're a GAYMERThere was/(is?) this bug in the linux kernel were having an encrypted swap partition could lock up the system so bad that it could not even write to syslog about what was happening. Had to use netlog to figure out what the hell was wrong.My workaround was disabling swap and adding another 32GB of ram.
>>107469364>I use VMs so I need moarTHIS! That's why I bought 32gb ram last year.knowing this is happening I regret not buying more and selling it at a profit.
>>107468476>don't compile anything>don't use a vm>don't even cache video streamsNo, 16GB is wholly inadequate in 2026
Uh no 16 gigs of ddr3 was so bad, nothing on the web worked while playing a game besides Brave. My brain told me i never want too deal with ram ever again about 2 months before this shit down. Thanks to my friends telling me my pc was obsolete and that it was time to let it go. Thank you friends.
>>107469373>There was/(is?) this bug in the linux kernel were having an encrypted swap partition could lock up the system so bad that it could not even write to syslog about what was happening. Had to use netlog to figure out what the hell was wrong.>My workaround was disabling swap and adding another 32GB of ram.Oh is this why my PC is hard locking on linux?Absolutley GAY if true.
>>107469389>No, 16GB is wholly inadequate in 2026Yeah but that's not most people on >>>/g/I and you are the exception.I want my VMs to run smoother so I went with 32gb.
nah I'm good
>>107468476I have 384GB ram and hit the limit.
>>107468476You don't need a computer if you don't use it to do anything useful.
You can never have enough ram.
>>107468476>You literally don't need more than 16gb of RAM unless you're a GAYMER scum.It's the other way around, silly
>>107469436Ok old man but I think im older than you. I like building computers, i like it. I've been doing it snice I was a child. Im not letting them win. Ill rat around and pick things up at fair prices. Thats my way.
>>107469402Could be.The thing is, this started happening when I upgrade to a new system with a Ryzen. Before that, the same configuration almost never had problems. It locked up a few times over the years, but not often enough to investigate. With the Ryzen, it happened a lot, so I thought it was related to the new hardware. But it appears the encrypted swap bug is just so much easier to trigger with that many hardware threads.
I have 12 lolFound a 4GB stick in an older PC and compatible with my current PC so i plugged it in
>>107468476Again, I got lucky buying my RAM before things turned to shit.
>>107469436Kicad chad, represent! I don't NEED a puter, it's just fun to use.
>>107469436based
I do 3D sculpting. I need all the ram I can get.
>>107469402>is this why my PC is hard locking on linux?>>107469499>this started happening when I upgraded to a new system with a RyzenDo you have screencaps of your specs? For the first post, the one that's hard locking. For the second post, current (new: Ryzen) and the previous one that didn't trigger the bug.
I have 2x 16GB sticks of these that I don't need. What could I do with them? Could I sell them?
>>107469221>jevon's paradoxgreat exampleback in the days people faced huge hardware limits and tried to make programs as fast and efficient as they can. Lines of code had real impact.Now we have fucken NPM madness when mobile app like Tesla\Uber\etc requires 800Mb disk space. Nonsense. Nobody wants to write clear efficient elegant code. Who cares? We have phones with 16Gb of RAM
>>107468818That's because you're a blue collar laborer and you need to shut the fuck up and get back to work and get paid slightly above minimum wage while hurting your back
>>107470299are you gonna make me? your fat crippled ass can barely get out of that chair, what you gonna do slap me with that limped wristed, carpal tunnel afflicted mouse hand of yours?
>>107468839>>107470299kek cry faggots
I have 64GB and I play freecell. I feel a bit constrained.
>>107470022I think both triggered the problem. My old system just did it far less often so I never bothered to investigate. IIRC previous was an Athlon 64 with 4 cores. Current a Ryzen 7 1700X (8 cores, 16 threads).I'll see if I can find the bug report but I'm not sure I still have the bookmark. The bug still seems to be popping up though: https://lkml.org/lkml/2025/11/11/1926
I upgraded my rig a year ago, I have 32gb so I'm good for a decade
>>107470199thats like 500 bucks
>>107468476Ok but how does that help anyone that is planning to build a computer when RAM is already expensive as fuck.
>>107470593That's incredible. But do people buy used RAM sticks? I would be too hesitant.. Is there a way to prove through software that they have not been abused or OCd?
I really don't get it, I have 16GB RAM and I never get close to the limit, I use no swap and I always hover around 6-7GB in daily usage. I work as a sysadmin.I think the only time I needed more was with Android Studio. But mobile development sucks anyway - I ran way from it quickly.
>>107470625Sorry thought it was DDR5, so it's worth about halfNo problem selling ram nowadays, there is a a (((shortage)))2nmmg
i have 16 and i think i never saw my pc using more than 9. most of the time its really just 3-4 max but im not a gaymer or mentally ill multi tasker.
>>107468476I don't play games and i have 256GBSomething tells me it is somewhat of a bell curve and you are in the middle.
>>107470299>blue collar>minimum wagewho's gonna tell him?
>>107470625Years ago, i bought ddr3 online, it fried either my mobo or cpu, because of that i made a new build and kept it for 8 years.I'm never buying used parts again.
mad OP?
>>107470625Bought mine used over 2 years ago, my CPU as well. My video card was used to mine ethereum before I bought it, benchmarks within top 10% of cards of its type.Only thing I bought new was my motherboard, and only really because I wanted a x570 board with 3x m.2 slots.
Is the RAM I have the expensive kind?
>>107470791you need to get the actual brand. Run OCCT: https://www.ocbase.com/
Does putting different capacity ram sticks into the same computer makes it noticeably slower compared to using just the same capacity ones, or is it fine as long as they are the same speed?
>>107470820It will always use the slowest speed when sticks are mixed.
>>107470852Yeah, but I mean when they are the same speed, just different capacity. Like when they are not dual channeling because of it.
>>107470820please don't fucking do that(unless you absolutely need more capacity and don't care about speed, i.e running an LLM or some shit)I've experimented with 2x mixed 8gb sticks vs. a single 8gb stick and the single 8gb stick beats it every time (gaming)There's a reason quad channel ram is so expensive
>>107470874I believe it will add up the capacities. I am not sure if dual channel benefits will work in this case. Ask @grok.
>>107470874doesn't matter if they're the same speed, even 2 sticks from the same manufacturer won't sync. Again, this is why quad channel ram is so expensive, they need to get 4 sticks to sync.In my experiment I struggled to get the mixed sticks to really run over 2400, a single stick half the capacity running at 3600 will blow it away.but have a play with it anyway, just make sure you benchmark your different configurations
>>107468476you literally have no idea what you're talking about.
>>107470874You can still overclock RAM. It may not be as fast as the other one, but still.
>>107468476bitch, are you even trying? such a low effort bait...
How am I supposed to get royal trident 32GB 3600mhz c16 RAM sticks in the UK now?
>>107468476Even as a gamer 16GB is fine for almost everything, especially everything released in the last decades.
>>107468476If you know anyone who happens to need a new and robust computer in the next 4 years then it would be the best deal to recommend a prebuilt I saw at Costco. The price might still appear steep at $1500, but I don't think prices willfall in any significant amount for about the next 4 years. I did the math and the components in this build actually are more expensive if you bought them separately even with a good sale than Costco is selling the entire computer as a whole. Not that I would buy it myself because it's expensive and I tend to maintainmy computer by upgrading it piecemeal, but it's objectively a great computer.I have watched the price of RAM and SSDs has tripled in the last two months just as analystspredicted, and they're predicting more bloodshell, but Costco's computer hasn't caught up with the pricing yet. I expect this same computer to costs $500 more in a few months. A 32 GB stick of DDR 5 that cost you $100 3 months ago now costs about $360 as the memory market is suffering hyper inflation. Analysts say the price of memory will remain high for several years and is still expected to climb with no end in sight.This is because billionaire Sam Altman already bought 40 percent of the world supply of DRAM wafers for memory, effectively cornering it for 2027, and all computers and most modern electronics depend on this to run. Memory makers are retooling to reduce their capacity to provide for normal household customers in the long-term because the AI companies pay more for memory even though their industry isn't even sustainable. Meanwhile, the Trump administration is taking millions of dollars from memory manufacturers to build the east wing White House Ball Room and has no incentive to regulate robber barons who enriched him and lethim leave amark on the White House and ignores monopolistic business cartels that colluded in public.https://apnews.com/article/donors-to-trump-white-house-ballroom-d4dd174eeb30ac244354a5a25551a86b
>>107471779>You can still overclock RAMNI/G/GER nobody need to overTHROAT RAMlearn fucken basics how CPU\RAM works and frequency dependence. And for GOD sake don't use chatgpt
>>107472080XMP is technically still overclocking. I don't mind mild overclock if it's stable
>>107468476>You literally don't need more than 16gb of RAMYou've never ran VMs, have you? Fuckers easily consoom all the RAM that you have, and even with 32 gigs I need to be careful.
>>107472080thanks just asked chatgpt
theoretically, this will drive down the price of motherboards and cpu's while the ram is impossibly high right?>no buyers for ram, cant sell other components
>>107473880Of course not Mobo makers have been giving less while charging more for over a decade. You need to go top end to even get boards with bios codes in most cases.
>>107473894darn
>>107469436If you're reason for owning a computer is just to build computers, you're just kicking the can down the road
>>107468638YES YES YES
>>107469433>apple itoy>only 64gb of RAMfilthy poorfags needn't pollute this thread with their ewaste
>>107470199Hold onto them. You might put them to use or wait for them to fetch a higher price. DDR4 won't appreciate as much though.
>>107470675I have 64 BFYTW
>yet another aijeet damage control threadMy work computer has 16 GB of RAM. It constantly hovers around 80% used, and that's with just browsers and office software running, not any real programming or significant applications. >>107473880>he actually thinks thisJust wait. Mobos will shoot up in price because they "need" the raw materials for datacenter server boards.
>>107468476>not having a 128GB ramdrive
>16GB RAMlol they put that shit in tablets and phones literal devices for babies and women OP is a retarded baby woman
64 and I don't think I have ever used more than 20.Only got an extra 32 because my autistic ass just had to fill all the slots and a year ago it only cost like $80. legit feeling bad for people right now
anyone who says 32 is too much doesn't fucking use after effects
people are unironically spending $400+ on 32gb of ram
>>107468620>windowslol LMAO
I have 2 sticks of 16gb ram in my current set-up. Am I fucked?
>>107468704>>107468728>>107469364>>107469388I'm literally running Qubes (i.e. lots of virtual machines) and I kept running out of memory on 16GB so I upgraded to 64GB and it's been incredibly liberating. I just counted and I literally have 22 VMs open right now kek. I never have to juggle them anymore. Most of them are using 0.5-4 GB of RAM except for one I allocated 16 gigs for running Windows in. I'm regretting not getting 128GB while RAM was still cheap. I haven't really needed it so far but it's so fucking comfy feeling like you have essentially infinite memory at your disposal. Same reason why I splurged on an 8TB SSD. I'll never run out of memory and I'll never run out of storage space. At least not for the next 10 years.
Why are people assuming that no company, new or old, will take Micron's mantle and flood the market with consumer RAMs to stabilize the prices?
>>107468476Just browsing the Internet has me at 14.9GB. Glad I have 32GB and wish I'd have gotten 64GB sooner (I did once but turned out the RAM was incompatible with my chipset or some shit and I repurposed the money for something else
>>107470717lol
>>107476540>tfw gotta learn how to weld to buy a PC
>>107476494You say that like it's as simple as setting up a book printing press.Would take years for someone to build a new chip manufacturing plant, not to mention qualifying them for sale.Only Samsung and SK Hynix remain. Samsung has already admitted that they are unable to meet production needs for their OWN Samsung branded products, much less the third party demands even prior to Micron dipping out.A new factory beginning production in 2030 doesn't do a lot to help RAM pricing and availability in 2026.
I'm really tempted to sell off all of my modern hardware, and limp along my AM3+ stuff a bit longer. I only play old games, and do web browsing. Scared I'll really fuck myself if prices don't come down for a long time.
>>107476568don't be silly anon. skip the cancer and instead just teach third worlders how to speak a real language. anything is better than being a blue collar retard.
>>107476597>You say that like it's as simple as setting up a book printing press.Yes.
>>107468476Good thing I'm not a gaymer anymore, haven't played a game since graduating university and starting my career.Love all of my 64GB of RAM.
>>107469221>they will use every single byte of RAM available to hoard tabs and run ADHD shit in the background until the computer doesn't work>making your programs more memory efficient just makes them spawn more tabs and use all the memorySo you mean the added efficiency increases the functionality of their computer? What a novel observation
>me on 16gb ddr4 3200mhz with a 5600X+RX 580Name one good game that cant play on this. Fuck AM5 consoooomers.
>>107476758>I'm such a big boy!
>>107468476You only need more if you AI gen videos or play AAA slop in 4K ultra settings.
>>107468476Ok, Altman.
>>107476836pretty based. I miss my 580.
>>107468476my blender uses like 20 gigs or am by itself
>>107476836based am4 chad
>>107468476>I need to run multiple VM's for testingwhat are you talking about anon
>>107468476I got a good bundle at microcenter in 2023 and it came with 64gb. I do play games, cry about it
You don't need a bajillion RAM for gaymes, even for RTS/RTT onesEven opening a ton of Chrome tabs will just 30%-40% of your RAM at 16GB, it gets way less than that above thatYou need a bajillion RAM if you're running a Patreon/Fanbox/Subscribestar/Unifans gig making Blender porn
>>107468476You keep telling yourself that, numbnuts.
