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What sort of person uses these technologies?
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>>107469942
This is for interesting people, which is why we keep them in a database called Persons of Interest.
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A sensible person who agrees they have the right to be in control of their data and comms without third parties seeing it, although that's not the case with Tor.
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>>107469942
No clue, I don't get out of the house, nor do I have friends. I have only ever used Tor once, and that was just to see how much marijuana costs online.
>>107469965
>we
They are from the government, and they are here to help.
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i'd personally use half of these, my ass wants to minimize corpo surveillance without being too schizo about it
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Me.
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>>107469942
>What sort of person uses these technologies?
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>>107469942
>What sort of person uses these technologies?
Someone with more active braincells in the winter months than you.

>>107469965
No. The things you have for 'interesting people' include contracts to Akamai Technologies to literally rape the intelliwebs dry everywhere - apart from North Korea and, now, China.

>>107469987
>they are here to help.
https://youtu.be/itkl7cHcX_E?t=631
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the spooks are hoping that if they shame enough people into feeling bad about "having something to hide" that they won't need to ban privacy technology. at the same time, they're making it practically mandatory for mundane things like watching porn. interesting times.
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>>107469942
>Element
If it's not Discord (i.e. contacts/mutuals, video encoding) but Matrix, i don't care.
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>>107469942
Cool, smart, freedom-loving, tech-literate people who don't like everything they do being tracked and monitored like they're prisoners.
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pedos and drug dealers mostly.
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>>107469942
peole that are indtinctively and viscerally disgusted by the idea of a digital panopticon, those who despise the subhumans that take pride in watching others without their knowledge or consent, the kind of people would that gladly grind a CIA glownigger's teeth with a dull rusty file.
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>>107469942
I use ALL of the things in that image because it makes glowniggers seethe and waste extra money on tracking me. Drain the beast. Make them work for your data
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>>107471270
But those use windows, telegram, apple pay, cashapp, and whatsapp tho??
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>>107469942
pedos
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>>107471339
reffer to >>107471314
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>>107469942
Criminals.
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>>107471314
not anymore.
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>>107469942
Paranoid schizophrenics, pedos, and criminals
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>>107471270
>>107471339
Yes, and we use them as a benchemark: If a pedo was caugh due to using it, then it's pozzed and backdoored. It's just that simple.
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>>107471270
>>107471339
>>107471372
>>107471381
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>>107471373
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>Tor, I2P
Good cattle have no use for anonymity
>LUKS, VeraCrypt
Good cattle have no use for encryption, we have no important data to save anyway
>Session, Matrix, GnuPG
Good cattle don't need encrypted communications. The government should be able to see everything
>Qubes
Good cattle don't need that much security
>Tails
Good cattle don't need privacy
>Coreboot
You're removing backdoors that were put in place for your protection

Overall, this software could only appeal to bad cattle who have delusions of wanting to escape the farm.
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>>107469942
A techdom veracrypted my D: drive once and it made me cum buckets.
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>>107471674
hot
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>>107469942
Based yotta chads.
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>>107471655
>Overall, this software could only appeal to bad cattle who have delusions of wanting to escape the farm.
This but unironically. You are doing nothing whatsoever to escape the farm. You never will. One day outside of the farm and you'll be begging glowgroids to put a transmitter up your asshole if that means you can go back and be good cattle.
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>>107469942
>matrix
best luck next time glowie
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>>107471655
>>Tor
>Good cattle have no use for anonymity
Most of the high speed nodes are run by Akamai, who are also in a unique position to utilising timing attacks for watching traffic enter/leave nodes on a near global scale...

You probably don't want to put too much faith into a node you're not yourself running. And then there's questionable benefit.
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>Tor
Kids.
>Session
Wagies.
>Qubes
/g/ larpers.
>I2P
Adults who evolved from being retarded kids.
>Coreboot
Unemployed freetards, usually only unemployed ThinkPad owners.
>LUKS, GnuPG
Loonix users.
>Monero
Just some anons on /biz/.
>VeraCrypt
Wintards who know nothing about the topic. Mostly using it because /g/ told them so.
>Graphene
Privacy larpers, Google slaves. Enjoyers of having a tracking device with them 24/7.
>Tails
/g/ larpers and French terrorists.
>Matrix
Kids. Switching from Discord b hard, goin to Element is da wae.
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>>107469942
glowniggers clearly
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>>107469942
Massive pedos, Chinese, and the British.
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>>107469942
me
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>>107471739
>to put a transmitter up your asshole
t...that's an OPTION?!?!?!
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>>107471270
fpbp
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>>107469942
A person who doesn't prefer jews.
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>>107473177
>post is neither first, best, nor original
>half jeet half kike glownigger claims that it is
you lot are so tiresome; you are the main reason we use these
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>Tor
>GrapheneOS
>I2P
>GnuPG
Gigachads.

>VeraCrypt
>Tails
>Coreboot
Cool guys.

>LUKS
>Qubes
>Matrix
Mouth-breathing retards.

>Session
Russian nonces.
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>>107473441
erm luks and veracrypt are functionally the same
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People who work in tech and see how their data is abused even after the sale, most of these are to give corpo pigs the middle finger and deny them their data. Your threat level by default should always be corpo, they are thieves and rapist and will rape you to the tune of millions. We just saw samsung add ads to refrigerators after the sale and you expect me to want to let these dogs take more from me?
These pieces of shit will discontinue support and still mine data from you. Come on OP justify why I should give those parasites that I often already pay money to, to be able to steal from me in perpetuity. Come on I fucking dare you!
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>>107473538
Indeed. I mistook LUKS for something else. It actually goes into Gigachad tier.
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>>107469942
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>>107470076
>https://youtu.be/itkl7cHcX_E
This is so painfully unfunny holy shit
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>>107469942
I use these apps to trade crypto and not pay taxes.

because authority is illegitimate and nobody deserves to have the money I generate myself.

find some other cattle to pay for boomer pensions and the worthless old men in office.

my independence is more important than your existence and if I had the opportunity to I would ____ you just so I don't have to be hindered by your demands of taxation, prosocial collaboration and interdependence.
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>>107473918
where do you buy monero without kyc
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>>107473441
No other desktop OS comes close to being as secure as Qubes. If you disagree, then you simply don't know what you're talking about
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>>107469942
a free person
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>>107474050
you don't get those details
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>>107474050
either you take the risk with a "no deposit" swap on something like retoswap or bisq, or buy BTC/LTC with kyc and then change it to XMR (kyc is involved but not for the monero part)

there are also allegedly exchanges on cake wallet or http://kycnot.me/ which are "shotgun kyc" like letsexchange and might not ask for kyc for amounts below like 500 USD, didnt work for me though

more info for bisq https://files.catbox.moe/fhldw5.pdf
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>>107469942
an assortment of schizos, criminals and regular people. so basically the same as everything else.
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meh I'm doing the bare minimum, anything more would be just placebo
I have a VPN mostly to evade geoblocks from my retarded government
I have a few files I care about that I have encrypted with openssl
Use firefox with Ubo

It helps I'm not an iranian nuclear scientist,I don't buy/sell drugs, don't store porn, don't browse cp, don't run tor nodes, do not engage in social unrest vs any political power, so there is not much anyone would want from me except the raw browsing data for ads

I think any of the people potentially being a target of state actors are better served by having an everyday windows/mac vanilla pc for ordinary use and do any sensitive computation outside
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>>107474207
>It doesn't matter if my data gets collected because I'm not interesting and my data isn't valuable
Perhaps, but when everyone is spied on and there's no privacy, it's bad for society, it's bad for freedom, it gives the people with the data power over humanity that they otherwise wouldn't have. Perhaps the world would be a better place if people put up more resistance to this kind of thing instead of accepting it.
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>>107474175
Then you die bitchass
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>>107474050
retoswap.com
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>>107473441
>Russian nonces.
бyквaльнo я
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>>107471400
You are a criminal.
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>>107474319
>Using Tor is ILLEGAL!! So please just don't!
ok glownigger
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>>107474239
That would start with civil education which tech education is part of.
But since most governments and 99% of the population don't care there is not much resistance there.
Our best bet is unironically Google / Apple and other tech megacorps that have the technical means and the educated workforce to enforce some modicum of privacy in their products that protect the general unaware population.
Of course after their shareholders are satisfied, but that's how modern society works.
Another potentially good tech actor is EU. They care and they have the power to enforce laws in face of murrika/china/russia/israel etc
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>>107474239
>if people put up more resistance
They are too retarded and ignorant to care
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>>107474319
and so are you
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>>107469942
Good people.
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>>107469942
NOOOOOOOOO DON'T USE THE ENCRYPTION SOFTWARE!!! IT'S FOR CRIMINALS ONLY WHAT ARE YOU SOME KIND OF PEDOPHILE???
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>>107474417
I, for one, am a proud and upstanding terrorist
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>>107469942
FBI agents.
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I think people would use these things less if the government kept corpos in check.
I think what drives 90% of sane people into using this software stems from data breaches leading to infinity jeet scam callers and repair shops stealing your data. You can even get data stolen by a repair shop something that happens quite often. If the there were harsher punishments for people that did that people wouldn't feel so guarded. Also with parts becoming more expensive it's no longer feasible to just buy a new one, you're going to have to do the RMA.
Do I sound crazy for believing this?
I think this is a fair value to have in today's society.
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>>107469942
good list but remove
veracrypt
grapheneos
session
matrix
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>>107474872
why
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>>107469942
>>107475052
Replace matrix with encrypted XMPP.
Matrix is mossadware.

>>107471299
Based and same.
I don't even commit any illegal activity, I love to make them waste their time with such simple software.
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>>107475313
>I don't even commit any illegal activity, I love to make them waste their time with such simple software.
99% of what I use Tor for is just to post on 4chan kek. I love the thought of glowniggers wasting thousands of dollars deanonymizing my Tor traffic just to be met with my shitposts
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>>107475407
can u even post with tor
or do you have a pass
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>>107471749
You're right it's probably the case that it's easy for glowniggers to deanonymize some Tor users some of the time (all you need to do is control someone's exit node and entry node to deanonymize them) it's still very hard for them to see everything that all Tor users are doing all the time, and that's what makes glowniggers seethe. If everybody used Tor, they would only see a fraction of what they do now with everybody on the clearnet. And it would be inaccurate because traffic correlation heuristics are prone to errors. So the quality of their data wouldn't be as good.
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>>107469942
The only one I've used unironically for work is GnuPG. Some third party company mandated that any file sent or uploaded to their SFTP needed to be encrypted with GPG for some fucking reason. Kind of hilariously dumb, but whatever. Security people are a joke to me. QA people level.
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>>107474207
> I think any of the people potentially being a target of state actors are better served by having an everyday windows/mac vanilla pc for ordinary use and do any sensitive computation outside
And get set up with planted plans or cp? No, if you’re the target of a state best not to use anything.
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>>107474331
> Another potentially good tech actor is EU.
lol. lmao even
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>>107469987
Well share with the class, was it expensive?
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>>107469942
I m antisemite and use several of them to espace the ZOG. Internet is too kosher now.
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>>107475991
Based.
Privacy is antisemitic and that's why I love privacy
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>>107469942
A nymphet enthusiast
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>>107475500
NTA but I think there are plenty of proxy sites. I've seen some shills here but never actually used one.
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glowing thread
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>>107476521
I know, right? Half the thread glows bright as fuck, while the other half are true freedom-loving anons. I'm just glad that it's easy to tell which is which - for now.
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>>107475934
I was never able to find out. Sorry. I am sure it is over $10 gram, though. $5-7 a gram is the best I will do, but I am an old man spoiled by Amsterdam and Key West pricing. Also, I don't trust any weed I haven't grown myself now-a-days.
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>>107476637
ain't it weird?
>VE VILL SPY ON YOU DAY AND NIGHT. VE VILL DECIDE IF WHAT YOU DO IS WRONG OR RIGHT. VE VILL CORRET YOU BEHAVIOR VIZ WITH OUT MILLITARY MIGHT.
>Could you... not?
>REEEE TERRORIST PEDO SCHIZO ANTIFA NAZI. FUCK YOUUUUUUUUU
>huh, guess you guays rwally are deranged. glad I made the choice to evade your surveilance
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>>107469942
Pedophiles
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>>107473441
qubes is great, nigger
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>>107470018
/thread
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>>107479009
Not surprised someone willing to give a stranger a picture of their dick would be using Tor to post on 4chan. lol
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>>107469942
>Tor
I live in an Asian country that for some reason is often blocked from accessing regular, run of the mill websites. Tor is sometimes useful for getting around this. I also use it as a backup way to access my server just in case something else goes awry. Tor is a very useful, resilient tool. one doesn't need to factor in illicit activity to see the benefits.
>I2P
similar to Tor but doesn't act as an impromptu VPN.
>LUKS
this is a no-brainer and frankly almost every uses this in practice whether they are actually using LUKS or some other form of full-disk encryption. iOS and Android all have full-disk encryption by default if I'm not mistaken. I'm not sure about Windows. macOS has is but I don't think it's on by default.
>GrapheneOS
all it is is regular Android except you're less likely to get fucked in the ass by malicious apps or malware.
>Matrix
unfortunately this is the only option for FOSS communication that appeases Gen Z losers.
>GnuPG
god I have tried so hard to like PGP/GPG but is really is terribly obtuse. anyway, it's useful for verifying that you're actually talking to the right person. I hope we make a better tool for it.

the rest I have no idea. Monero is obviously useful in theory but literally nothing accepts it. coreboot, same thing but nothing is supported.
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>>107478527
as per my last message: >>107478430
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>>107471749
currently your local or national police are not going to be able to get such info. glowies can if they pursue it and put in the effort so unless you are doing terrorism, then you can assume you are ok.
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>>107479094
IKR? I trued to find some way to automatically encrypt the backup my data. I found vorta/borg, but no host yhat both supports borg and accepts monero. My backups are currently on several external drives, which is less than ideal, but better than nothing
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>>107474050
from chinese in your major cities with cash
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I love how in dying off, privacy threads have infected all of /g/, honing this board into some sort anti-surveilance anti-authority hyper-thread
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>>107471373
>you see, we need age control and to have free access to the encryption of whatsapp and all other normie programs used by billions of people cause pedos use them, just renounce to your privacy bro
>but also pedos never actually use them and use these other programs we can't directly monitor instead
please glowies, choose one narrative and stick to it
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>>107479081
Why would I send somebody a picture of my dick
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>>107479428
Xe thinks you're ecker (obsessed tranny). Ignore xer
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this thread le glows in le dark, amirite le gentlesirs?
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gotta get all them terrorist kids, amirite fellow amerisraeli mutts?
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>>107479428
>>107479450
samefag
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>>107479953
k
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>>107479953
yeah, sure
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>>107469942
Terrorists
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>>107480069
again >>107471400 and >>107478430
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>>107480035 (Huge Faggot)
>>107480066 (Please rape my face)
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>>107469942
what sort of retard makes this kind of generalisations?
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>>107469942
My laptop has a large collection of porn and I take it to work with me to use for productive things (I wish I got paid to jork it). I feel secure knowing that my fap folder is locked away and hidden if someone got ahold of my laptop. Nobody here will know how much I love Asian creampies and succubus hentai.
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>>107479287
The /psg/ threads didn’t die off, they were killer by /cyb/ troons.
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>>107480133
haha you got me
>>107480404
eh, same difference. it's akin to saying "that man didn't die, his body was eaten by maggots"
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>another pajeet crosspost from x
rot in piss
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>>107480719
No, it’s more like “he didn’t die of natural causes, he was murdered.”
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I encrypt all my drives in case I die so that my family wont find all the porn and cringe stored on them.
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>>107469942
Me because I'm autistic and schizophrenic and hate glowniggers
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>>107482526
>someone got 700k views on X using my image
lol nice
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>>107479287
Anyone that uses a modern AI "enhanced" phone/Windows 11 got the tech equivalent of a negro wake up call
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>>107474466
Wow, me too! I will be shooting up my local synagogue in NYC tonight, I sure hope nobody interferes with my plan!
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>>107482609
that someone is a indian/jew chimera who regularly steal content from 4chan, posing it as his own.
food for thought.
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>>107469942
>>107471299
>>107474417
Wouldn't they be able to crack encrypted systems anyway if it's used by criminals? Especially for real nefarious purposes and or at a large scale. Pretty sure there's been stories about that.

Seems like it's more useful if it's just privacy minded anons looking to protect their lawful data from prying eyes.
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>>107483233
so basically he doesn't know anyone using those programs
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>>107483816
>Wouldn't they be able to crack encrypted systems anyway if it's used by criminals?
No. That's the point of encryption. Unless you mean backdoors? Which is why we use open source fully auditable software
>inb4 muh intel ME
We use a mix of CPUs from 2005 and RISC-V, good luck with that
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>>107484082
Then how do they get into encrypted chats used by criminal gangs? Phones/computers with backdoors? Finding passwords and keys after seizing devices? People making mistakes leaking their own data? Torture?
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Never fall for demoralization propaganda.
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>>107484127
Yes to all of the above, + honeypots (see: anom phones)
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>>107469942
graphene is good, the rest are either "whocares"ware or for nutjobs (especially the cryptocuckery)
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>>107484612
>le google goyphone good, use android, consooooooomm
>anonymous payments le bad, evil, stay away, shut it dooooowwwwnnn
k
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>>107484127
Everyone knows WhatsApp and Telegram have backdoors. Hell they have frontdoors as they will give the data if asked.
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>>107484649
>use google phone
>graphene de-googles the phone
damn that's crazy
>use android
are you a windows phone nigger idgi
>>le
Tor is literally <90% under glow watch.
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>>107484696
whatever tou say, agent Gomez
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>>107484709
uhuh yeah sure whatever
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>>107484653
Has there ever been a case of WhatsApp handing over message content data since they implemented E2E?
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>>107484696
>bro use this software, it makes this device private and secure
>don't worry about the hardware, bro, just install the thing
Crazy indeed...
>windows phone
You're a literal goyim cattle, forever caged by the idea that everyone uses cuck slabs just like you, unable to even concieve of an alternative. You disgust me, literal subhuman animal
>bbut tor is le compromised
Ok, and? Are so braindamaged that you equate all anonymity with that shitty NSA proxy network? Do you even know what half of the logos picture mean/are?

Further replies to this comment will not be aknowledged unless you provide sufficient evidence that you are both white and over eighteen years old.
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>>107484809
https://www.pcmag.com/news/fbi-document-shows-how-popular-secure-messaging-apps-stack-up
no, only literally everything else
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>>107484882
Thanks for posting. I didn't think there would be any instances of it leaking.
Anons on here just assume the government has total information control, and that just isn't true in most cases. They assume the same with Pegasus and IME/PSP when it just isn't the case that they can do what they fear.
Small thing as well but it's everything else popular. The source screenshot in that article is really low resolution, but you can just about make out that Signal and Telegram share zero message content, as well as a few other less used ones.
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>>107471270
based?
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>>107484882
It's the best of "popular" messaging apps, which anyone intelligent already knew.

>>107485267
This is what's available to the rank and file in the fbi. There may be other methods that have a higher classification level and hence weren't released for this foia request.



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