>>107469948
>fedro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMZOrEbS7cU

>>107469948
So does debian+KDE without having to include 3rd party codecs sources

>>107469964
>>107469975
This takes maybe a minute on a fresh install it does not deserve its reputation for how much it's discussed online.

>>107470036
Yeah
To me it's not fedora because:
1. A lot less packages than debian (don't care if outdated since security patched anyway)

2. Don't trust 3rd part sources ppa's etc...

3. Red Hat has a history of fucking up their release models and they hate freeloders (as opposed to debian)

4. RedHat is IBM's lap dog and IBM is full of brown racist faggots.

>>107469948
It's not Ubuntu

>>107470150
*kubuntu
Sorry for samefagging but my esteogen was high so I mistyped

FTFY

>>107469948
nothing it just works

>>107469948
becoming beta tester for free

>>107469948
It works great for development.

>>107470079
Fedora Atomic is literally the only distro I'm willing to use.
>Immutable but with rpm-ostree
>SELinux
>Secureboot
>Always bootable system
>Easy rollbacks with btrfs
>Polished KDE / GNOME
>Good QA
>Recent packages
There is even more stuff like pinning images and rebasing, I just feel safe on fedora atomic.

>>107471251
Why doesn't main fedora use snapper?

>>107470079
I found that while apt is faster and smoother the things I used regularly as a typical 4chan nerd were always more up to date elsewhere. I have to resort to flatpak, pipx, ppas, random install scripts, etc. far less with Fedora. Really barely at all even yt-dlp. The only weird hack I have now on Fedora is for drivers for a certain game controller. Hated looking at github pages and seeing a row of green then red for Debian then having to google how the hell do I get this on Debian then decided I was doing it so much I was really not even sticking to the spirit of why you would use Debian in the first place. It's probably a different story depending on what you're doing.

>>107469948
Facebook?

>>107469948
use centOS

>>107469948
bleeding edge garbage named after a jewish hat, what do you think?

>>107473569
I have working NVIDIA drivers and don't need to waste my time doing retarded shit like signing the MOK certs after every fucking update.
Looking at you tumblweed, you worthless German faggots

>>107469948
>FEDora
>"what's wrong with it?"
c'mon man

>>107473437
The fuck are you talking about, dnf5 is way faster than apt.

>>107469948
Wayland obsession

>>107473607
Why do you have to do it on tumbleweed? As far as I know tumbleweed and ububtu are actually only distros supported by nvidia.

>>107474014
Everyone uses it now

>>107469948
Sounds like Pedro, therefore not white.

>>107474016
They chased out all of their board and they left one guy to handle all the drivers with little to no help so anything concerning the open driver breaks nearly every update and they refuse to update instructions on the wiki last time I checked before abandoning the distro

>>107469973
Where the fuck is the raccoon

>>107471255
Wasn't there some different ext4 + something else filesystem thing they wanted to use instead of btrfs?

>>107473607
I don't think you need to do the MOK thing with the newer open drivers

>>107474384
If they fixed that, then that's great but they had a issue with versioning that would fuck you over with cuda drivers because they didn't stagger the packages.

>>107474002
no. ive used both recently and apt is still faster, its not even close.
>>107473437
if you know well your way around to get that newer stuff, debian is easily the best.
i usually avoid building anything, first i look in the backports, check if it ships tar or deb and then flatpak. but deb repos are so huge that most of the time i dont bother.

>>107469948
i just prefer distros with slower release fedora moves too quick for me

>>107470079
>(don't care if outdated since security patched anyway)
lol, debian team has failed to properly patch their crap many times in the past.

>>107471251
>>SELinux
it doesn't do anything for user processes. what even is the point on a desktop.

Debian is better

>>107469975
Debian is too out of date to be useful for anything but servers

>>107470180
*xubuntu
Sorry, I don't know how I made another typo

>>107471251
>rpm-ostree
slow shit
>selinux
not really needed
>secureboot
not really needed
>easy rollbacks
not easy
>polished gnome/kde
just like any other distro
>good qa
not really, it's full of bugs
>recent packages
yes, if you prefer untested software
>btrfs
slow shit

you're an unpaid tester for fedora

>>107475930
debian may be out of date
but it WORKS

>>107475595
It's not faster. You are just stupid.

>>107475985
apt synchronizes faster, which is impressive since in it you type `update` to synchronize and then `upgrade` to update, whereas in fedora `upgrade` does both. the sloweness update process is worsened by the numerous scriptlets it runs, as well.
dnf is just slow, always has been and always will be.

>>107471251
Why Fedora Atomic over Secureblue?

>>107473569
>seething about a jewish hat
Post your interest rates.

>>107469948
usecase for this over mint?

>>107476260
Better NVIDIA driver handling and cutting edge features

>>107469948
I like Fedora but after using it for some months I went back to Ubuntu. Fedora didn't make any difference for me, tho atomic spins are kino af.
I'll keep being a Debian fag I guess.

>>107475894
Example?
If you mention any repo other than stable you're confirming your own retardation btw

>>107475930
Old doesn't mean outdated unless you're a brain fried updooter. It's called LTS nigga

>>107469948
>Wayland
>Everything just works

>>107470079
fag, not reading that
>>107471251
retard
>>107473437
fag blogposter
>>107475956
based 9inch giggachad
>>107476107
and you're a fag too including everyone else

>>107469948
Annoying non standard configs are my only issue with it.
>Install any other distro with i3
>open lxappearance and change gtk theme, icon, and font no problem
>Install fedora with i3
>Have to copy the gtk-* dirs from a theme to ~/.config to change theme, icons refuse to change
Just an example, but they do it in other places too. Instead of stock configs it's whatever the package maintainers think should be the way it's done.

>>107476700
well well well look at the time, another fag posts

>>107475923
>what even is the point on a desktop
Even android uses SELinux. + It's just zero trust, even from their own repo and you can still layer shit and get infected, so be happy that we have SELinux.
>>107475956
Yep, rpm-ostree is slow, but you just have to layer a couple things in the beginning, the rest is via flatpak/distrobox. SELinux and Secureboot are needed, fag. And rollbacks are easy af, maby it's too hard for jeets to select a different image in grub, or just type rpm-ostree rollback. Sad.
>>107476107
>Secureblue?
Sounds great on paper, but I want to stay as close to upstream as possible, I don't want forks of forks of forks (i know it's different on image based distros, but still)
>>107476585
here is your (You)

>>107469948
>blocks updating 42 --> 43 if you have wine installed
sure.
just works.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2401666

>>107469975
But I need third party codecs to play videos.

>>107471251
the atomic desktops actually ship with less bloat somehow. kinoite is pretty small.

>>107475930
good thing theres flatpaks which will have just about all the up to date desktop applications that exists for linux.

>>107469948
Nothing really.
Every other major release seems to be quite buggy, but that problem is solved by not updating immediately when it's available

>>107473607
>NVIDIA
kek

>>107476730
>anon asks what's the point of selinux on the desktop
>answers with phonefaggotry

Is there a way to disable the password login after booting up? I get that it's good to have but I'm getting slighty annoyed of it by now.
>don't you like the rocket spaceship?
fuck that, just let me use my PC as soon as I back with some coffee

>>107479341
for the user account on kde/gnome it is somewhere in the settings program on xfce spin i had to edit lightdm.conf if you meant encryption you can probably do that but i dont know how

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>>107476398
>I went back to Ubuntu
>I'll keep being a Debian fag I guess

>>107479587
found it, thank you Anon.
it is under colours & designs -> login screen (SDDM)
>colours & designs
man, I would've never guess it to be there of all places

>>107469948
>fedora
>FED AURA
Its name literally means the glow around feds.

>>107479249
>answers with phonefaggotry
I know that jeets have a hard time to think abstract.