>4chan will be down for scheduled maintenance at 11AM EST on Monday the 8thNew spyware installation
>>107479869Did 4channel turn into a fucking wow server all of a sudden?
>>107479869>New spyware installationBased upon what?
Trvth nvke
god knows there's lots to improve, but which is the most pertinent I wonder
My dad works for gookmoot, audio webms outside of /wsg/ are coming
they'll probably implement the age verification thing
>>107481582>probablyWhy?
>>107479869They're adding WEBP, AVIF, JXL, HEVC, AV1 and Opus support as well as enabling sound on all boards, trust the plan.
>>107479869they are moving to a new tech stack created after the hack. that's what I think.
>>107479869Anon, we could live tomorrow.But the server restarts today. >VKH0W
Im scared boys, what will I do? Where will I go if, heaven forbid, something goes wrong??
>>107479869Nice pit, would smell and lick and kiss.
>>107481599I guess we'll know what happened if /pol/ suddenly slows to a crawl after the update...
>>107479869>kills all your bot posts
Oybey
Well, we got a few minutes left. I'm gonna take a shower and think about doing stuff in society or something.
>img is from an mlp booruop is brony
>>107481874Based and ungovernably autistic pilled
so, no idea what changes they made?probably for the backend
>>107481874Yeah I am
>>107482198If they can't convince you you're weird for sexually fetishizing horses on a little girls tv show they can't convince you of anything
>>107482214I am weird.
had to upgrade both mac minis to high sierra
>>107482236No it's everyone else who is weird. Having sex with cartoon horse midgets is chill
>>107482266I wish I was a mare.
>>107482265based itoddlers
>>107482265faggot
>>107482265lol
>>107482265do itoddlers really?
>>1074822654chan is an iGOD website
>>107482265GOOD MORNING SIERRA (apparently pedoproxy is down, good job lads)
>>107482265Apple chads win again
>>107482265lmao only like 3 people will get the reference
Okay but what did they really do?
>>107482265How on fire were the mini's when you arrived to do the upgrade?
>>107482265enable emojis right now
>>107482348upgraded the tunnel to NSA's datacenter
>>107482265AV1 webm support when?
>>107482339only 90s channers know what this is
>>107482365who cares about AV1? We need APNGs
>>107482265webp support when?
>>107482265Flags and /vn/ board NOW
>>107482380Ew, no
>>107482265Oh yeah! Now we're cookin'!
>>107482265
>>107482387What's wrong with webp?
>>107482402isn't it overengineered to hell or something
>>107482265>4chan used to be hosted on mac minis in moot's garage with a USB stick for storage spaceahh, the good ol days
>>107482410No
>>107482402It's a garbage format based on video compression technology two generations (soon to be three) out of date, and somehow has more limitations than JPG and PNG.If we're going to get a new image format it should be JPEG XL.
>>107482416>i drove three hours and i really wanted to spend time with you so badly *sniff*>i always wanted to have a little friend...care to explain this?
>>107482412i wouldnt be surpriced if 4chan still was run from these
>>107482421idk, webp images look just fine, even having support for transparency. The image quality is leagues above JPG, so why not just support it given that JPG is supported?
>>107482265only two?
>>107482434they upgraded to m1
>>107482402Can't post on 4chan.
>>107482445but freebsd doesn't have a port to that...
>>107482421They have the required feature-set:>lossless + lossy modes>transparency>animation
>>107482436>The image quality is leagues above JPGNo, it really isn't, especially because the format enforces 4:2:0 chroma subsampling in lossy mode, which means that unlike JPG, you can't have a perceptually lossless lossy image. webp's compression savings also aren't that much of an improvement over well optimized JPG files either.
>>107482421lossless webp is decent and has good software support nowadays
>>107479869they got a renewed link to the NSA-owned fiber optic data collection and analysis endpoints.
>>107482456;^)
>>107482265based
>>107482464lossless webp has a file size comparable to pngat that point just use png
>>107482434Anon, the April hack revealed that we're still on FreeBSD from 2015mac minis are obviously a joke but 4chan's definitely hosted on some absolutely abyssal garbage >>107482436webp (and other video2image formats like avif) are always pain in the ass to work with, imageboard wouldn't really benefit from files that can't be edited with gimpusecase for webp and avif and stuff is filesize optimization on NYT articles
>>107482412I want to go back
>>107482464Yeah, but why adopt it when it looks like JPEG XL is about to hit the scene, a format which makes webp completely obsolete?
>>107482265I would question it if it didn't seem plausible.
>>107482462>No, it really isn't, especially because the format enforces 4:2:0 chroma subsampling in lossy mode, which means that unlike JPG, you can't have a perceptually lossless lossy imageI don't know what that means. The webp's I download don't have any JPG graininess and transparency also works.>imageboard wouldn't really benefit from files that can't be edited with gimpDude, are you using Gimp 2.6? Gimp has supported webp for a decade.
>>107482477i wonder how much jails could've helped? doing all the image processing in a jail could've saved the site.
jxl when
>>107482493>>imageboard wouldn't really benefit from files that can't be edited with gimp>Dude, are you using Gimp 2.6? Gimp has supported webp for a decade.I used gimp as a generic example for software that can shit its pants when working with webp (never used gimp, krita and kolourpaint won)from my experience WEBPs break shit 60-80% of the time also others pointed out itt that JXL is objectively betteralso you forgot to (You)
based 4chan. the only website that understands hosting
>>107482265WEBP WHEN?
>>107482493>I don't know what that meanshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroma_subsamplingThe tl;dr is that chroma subsampling reduces color information in a visual format to save on filesize. JPG has it as an option, but you're not forced to use it. With lossy webp, you're forced to use 4:2:0 chroma subsampling, which means that you're forced to lose a substantial amount of color information no matter what. The difference is noticable, especially with reds and gradients.
>>107482265Here, it's for you.
>>107482502soon now that google stopped being hostile towards it
>>107482547>forced to use 4:2:0 chroma subsamplingDOA format, who the fuck thought this was a good idea
>>107482546wee need webp so i dont have to convert my telegram stickers to png
>>107482487Because it won't be widely supported anytime soon.
>>107482575Goolag
>>107482578Please do us all a favor and kill yourself.
>>107482578>>107482578>>107482578>>107482578
>>107482575Inevitable consequence of being VP8 under the hood.
>>107482519if reddit can make webp work why can't we? Are we really saying that redditors are smarter than us?>>107482487>which makes webp completely obsoletedo you even know what we're talking about? Is JPEG XL going to instantly transform every single webp on the entire internet into JPEG XL? No? Then what you said is completely irrelevant. All that matters is that I'm tired of searching for an image to post, finding it, and then it being webp.
>>107482579>it won't be widely supported>when format is soon to be supported by Chrome
>>107482578your sisters are really cutehook a brother up?
>>107482579It's supported in every software that matters currently except browsers, and with Chromium finally changing their minds on JPEG XL and web dev interest in JPEG XL being at an all time high, it's only a matter of time before browsers support it too.
>>107482616idk why he keeps ignoring me quoting the aftermath of his catfishing, he usually replies :/
>>107482348I assume that after the hack, they're now really really serious about updating their software regularly, and we're going to see these notifications every couple of months for the rest of time.
>>107482600>if reddit can make webp work why can't we? Are we really saying that redditors are smarter than us?reddit isn't about engagement through meme folders, image edits and other "arcane arts" of old Internet it's about updoots and algorithms. Serving shitty memes that redditors updoot using WebP is fine because redditors aren't supposed to work with them in any way
>>107482629you hit him where it hurtsso he goes quiet
>>107482600>All that matters is that I'm tired of searching for an image to post, finding it, and then it being webp.use 4chan-xt, it converts WebP and other unsupported formats to PNG
>>107482479Same
>>107482605>soonThey reopened the issue because the PDF Association announced that they'll add JXL support to the PDF spec. They're still unwilling to implement libjxl as it currently exists and prefer waiting for a memory-safe decoder.
>>107482464Exactly zero of the people asking for webp support are using lossless webpThey just want to be able to post the shitty samples they're being served by google images etc
>>107482547I don't use HDR so this doesn't affect me
You people have your priorities all wrong, allowing audio webm is far more important than enabling some new image format.
>>107482600>do you even know what we're talking about?More than you do.>Is JPEG XL going to instantly transform every single webp on the entire internet into JPEG XL?If JPEG XL becomes a thing in browsers, a huge load of websites are going to convert all their JPGs and PNGs to it overnight because of JXL's ability to losslessly compress both. Some might keep webp still, but they'll likely convert the webps to JXL too.
>>107482658not him, but i find somewhat annoying that the image data is only finalized once you submit it.so for example, if i open a quick reply, paste an image, write the post, and then copy something else, like text, the upload fails, despite the fact that the preview doesn't change.i wonder if it posts the wrong image if i copy a different image after, let me test
>>107482685This! Webm on all boards needs audio. I also think we should be allowed to post webms upto 6mb.
you know what team4chan should do? Make thumbnails WebP but still restrict WebPs from being postedI'm tired of retards that share thumbnails when posting, would be fun if they were prevented from being retarded
i'm pretty optimistic about JXL myself>>107482644imagine being david "leto" hoffman and driving 3 hours across state lines to molest a child and nearly get arrested in the process then that child records you while you cry about itand he's black>>107482685i hate that, personally. this isn't a video board.
>>107482402It's soulless. Autists might look for other reasons, but there are downsides to every image format and it doesn't make sense to block them over some spergy nitpicking. Webp is antithetical to 4chan's vibe, and that is the real reason it's not allowed.
>>107482670jxl-rs exists for that exact purpose, made by some of the same people behind libjxl, and its development is now rapidly accelerating because of the Chormium announcement.
>>107482685IMAGEboard, not a VIDEOboardwe need APNGs
>>107482712What
>>107482265BASED!!!!! LOOOOOL
>>107482487>JPEG XL is about to hit the scene,2 more weeks?
>>107482720Yeah, I know. It's just not a done deal yet. It's pretty much guaranteed to happen, I was just questioning the "soon".
>>107482695>a huge load of websites are going to convert all their JPGs and PNGs to it overnighteeeh it's only reasonable for JPEGs because JXLs perfectly supersedes JPEG format
>>107482707>I also think we should be allowed to post webms upto 6mb.bump file limit to 8mb for all filesalso bump resolution limitsBUT make 4chan pass(tm) exclusive feature to post 16mb files and/or audio webms
>>107482748Pretty sure avatar usage is against the rules.
>>107482758>BUT make 4chan pass(tm) exclusive feature to post 16mb files and/or audio webmsI'm okay with this.
>>107482764uh oh you got me
>>107482748>dindu nuffinyeah he's black alright
