Will programmers finally start caring about efficiency again now that hardware is becoming more expensive?
>>107482005I certainly hope so
>>107482005Hardware is already 3-4 generations ahead of what software requires. You can run everything you want on a midrange machine from 15 years ago.
>>107482043More like software is a solved problem for normal computing tasks, but jeets and AI slop are throwing away the progress with every update.
>>107482005kekoh wait you're serious?HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>107482005no? pic unrelated as well?higher level means easier, more correct so you either pay for it or you pay some other way. hardware is still cheaper in most cases unless you're on the bleeding edge of BOM cost optimizing, and the software for those use cases are heavily trivialized bitch loops that just read/write mmap'd IO registers.
>>107482005todays "programmers" cant even code without the help of libraries and prewritten functions combined with vibe coding. they are just relieved their slop actually works until the unpaid cattle find bugs
>>107482005Yes, by efficiently killing other programs like on android.:^)
When they're handed 20yo computers by their employers
Lol no.They'll push for replacing the personal computer with dumb terminals connected to the cloud. Basically forcing the consumer's hand since without force people had the audacity to not like that change.
>>107482005It's not my problem you can't afford an RTX5090, Ryzen 9, and 256GB of RAM. And no, I'm not going to bother optimizing my electron todo list app just for you.
>>107482627you can run a game on a dumb terminal. bc physicsthats why triple a decided they wont even try, and just roll belly up and diesuch is the power of corporate.whoever cites faang as example to follow, or to admire is turbo retarded and should get sterilized for the good of the human genome
>>107482727*cantalso what im alluding to is something somthing investors pulling out of the games industry (good btw, theyre the reason for sloppification + everything woke is bleeding out from its overdilated axewounds in a muddy ditch along the highway)
>>107482727>you can't run a game on a dumb terminal. bc physicsOh you absolutely can****(over shoddily implemented """"low latency""" video streaming of the gameplay that physically happens on the server and you remote control it over the terminal).Sure, running things locally gives you the best experience but this is precisely another case of "good nuff" for the cattle and it will become the standard eventually when everyone is getting priced out of powerful home computers again. There has been so much superior technology in the past that got abandoned in favor of cheaper alternatives and if shit stay unaffordable then paying a retarded subscription to a gaymen server will look acceptable for most, no matter how hard reasonable people kick and scream against this.
>>107482845yeah, but its quite literally unplayableeveryone tried and failed, including googleyour latency is not uni-directional, mind youthe time for the player to see feedback from his actions is:player sends input - time to server, lets say 50ms if ones luckyserver creates frame. lets say 5ms, negligiblethen the frame has to arrive back to the playerthats 0.1 fucking second bw input and reaction perceptible by the player,in an OPTIMISTIC case scenariothats totally unplayable and its a 30fps gamer from the late 90s era whos saying thatthe reason why playing with 200ms ping is not totally unbearable is because all the rendering happens locally, and so youre playing a version of the game thats subtly different from all the other players, but gets re-synchronized every so oftenno such trick is possible with cloud gaming, and you double the latency because the data has to forth and back
>>107482005When you realize all software is just a tool to sell hardware, everything that has happened will make sense
>>107482909yeah no thats steve apple who says thatits a very reductive way of framing thingsit is correct, but theres cases where its not.plenty of machines come with no software at allthink: a hammer. or a cordless drill if youre strict about definitions
>>107482845This. It'll go the same way as everything else.>Hey consumer, you don't REALLY want to spend $2000 on a new gaming computer right?>Try our Cloud Gaming Service on an Unlimited Free Basic Pro Premium Plus Limited 3 day Trial!>After the intro period it's available for only $39.99/month!*>*When prepaying for a 3 year subscription. Price includes basic options and connectivity. Resolutions beyond 480p and average latency under 150ms requires Premium or higher license. Pricing subject to change during contract period due to market pricing, arrangement of heavenly bodies, and dreams our CEO may have. Unlimited use during off hours only, maximum 2 hours of use daily during peak times (2am to 11:59pm EST)The cloud, anything As A Service, and centralization were all mistakes.
>programmersyou mean indians? no
>>107482081Just don't use jeetware
>>107482948>and average latency under 150msthis is pysically not a thing unless you have a server in your city, basicallywhich means tons of servers that sit idle 99% of the timethat could become viable with daddy gubmints free money thoughand maybe this is what the ram spike is aboutif thats what it is i think its gonna failthe retard niggers who usually have this kind of ideas have a long track record of failing. miserably
>>107482005Yes.
>>107482005not really. kikes will just push people to the (((cloud))) computing and glorified terminals with <= 8gb of ram and 250gb of storage.
No. Tablet and phone are using the same software.
>>107482043windows 11 takes about 8 gig of RAM on the startup
>>107482724More of a reason to ditch electron apps and go webview style on browser.Either apps are optimized, or they gonna push anything as a service and decide the usual lad has no right to personal computing hardware.
>>107482005Gabecube will do that.
Apparently modern versions of MATLAB are horribly slow btwThe old versions I used were slow but now it must be unbearable
>>107482005All they need to do is focus on game mechanics instead of graphics. Voila, the game industry is revived and your 4th gen i7 with 8 gb and 1050 ti is a gaming machine again.
>Will programmers finally start caringYou wish.I wish.
>>107482043Everything except genning anime pr0n.>>107484718Good thing I don't need Win11.
what does Matlab have to do with this?
>>107482005no, they work for the companies who are buying it all up and driving up the price.
>>107482005matlab is one of the biggest piece of shit languages i've ever had the displeasure of masteringi hate python too, but at least it isn't buggy licensed bullshit. thank god i managed to push my lab towards python over the course of 8 years.
