>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
RTX 50 Super, 2026 launch? Potentially cancelled, likely q3 if still being released
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
AMD FSR "Redstone" Arrives December 10, Exclusive to Radeon RX 9000 Series
Micron consumer memory (Crucial) is no more

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/


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>>107485161
Next component to be price manipulated is PSU.
You heard it here. You have been warned. Secure your backup power supplies now before it's too late.

>>107485176
no, PSU's are literally the easiest thing to make.
>>107485161
pc gaymers are trannies.

>do literally anything on my pc
>hdd spins up
Sit down little bro, you exist purely to backup my pirated games and anime
You do not need to be involved in the launching of the steam game installed on my nvme drive

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This is tracking for a $5.5k 30.72TB enterprise SSD. It's been "delayed" at the same location for two weeks now with no updates. Should I assume it was stolen?

>>107485218
i would hope so and you deserve it. only an idiot spends 6 grand on 30tb of storage.

>>107485239
It's for production, not gaming or media storage.

>>107485272
production of tranny porn i bet.

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>>107485211
my pc has been so quiet since i stopped using hdds

here's how my first time replacing the cpu and gpu went
>try to remove gpu, one side lifts while the other is stuck. somehow take it out, don't know how (I blacked out)
>try to remove stock cpu cooler, it's stuck to the cpu
>afraid to heat it up, just nudge it until it comes out (together with the cpu lol)
>place new cpu
>suddenly panic because I don't know if I put it the "right way"
>can't take it out, panic
>fuck it. apply thermal paste
>put heatsink but realize I put the backplate wrong
>somehow align it while pressing the heatsink, screw it in
>takes me 10 minutes to remove protective film from gpu (I cut my nails yesterday)
>apprently it's bulky enough that it can't fit together with the wifi card
>it's over
>realize there's another place to put it. everything is in place now
>turn the pc on
>screen flashes and boot takes a long time, it's over
>slowly see signs of life between flashes
>everything works
it was the most stressful thing I've done my entire life. thank you for reading my blog.

>>107485276
gottem good

>>107485390
i just put all my storage in a single pc that i use as a nas. it's just very convenient.

>>107485211
You can use windows power management to shut HDDs up unless you're accessing data on them

>>107485211
you probably have a steam folder on your HDD, even if you have no games established there.

>>107485390
same, but my pcs case fans were kinda loud, upgrading my case to an antec flux pro was a great idea, 5x more fans than my previous corsair, but its still way quieter. Love it.

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https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-releases-rog-x870-motherboard-beta-bios-1901-featuring-agesa-1-2-8-0

if you have any of these boards with a beta bios
update to it posthaste
fixed my system's inability to boot into windows at anything above 60hz. why this was a thing, i have no idea. i'm starting to realize that i have no idea how anything works because the solutions are getting ridiculous

>>107485519
i swear, DDR5 generation motherboards take like 3x longer to tune the ram than DDR4 mobos.

>>107485803
this is entirely an amd thing because they suck
i have never ever had to deal with memory "training" on an intel board. it just fucking werks (tm) unironically

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If I'm replacing my AMD gpu with another AMD gpu, can I just leave the drivers as is?

>>107485789
my shitty b650 board works just fine thank you very much

>>107485818
if it was nvidia or intel i'd say no need, but you can never trust amd drivers to work properly, use ddu in safe mode before installing the new gpu

>>107485818
There are different driver file versions for different rdna gens in one installer so better run amd cleanup utility if you upgrade to a newer model.

>>107485818
just see what happens

kinda crazy that a 13mm foam fan duct lowered my SFF cpu temps by 6-8 degrees.

>>107485867
May we see a picture of what you mean?

>>107485808
intel have 1 single solitary advantage over AMD at this point, and its their memory controllers on their cpu and mobos, they're just better. Maybe when EXPO actually works as advertised, next generation, AMD will be on par.

>>107485889
intel cpus have better efficiency and lower power draw on the desktop and cooler temps

>>107485818
yes. thats exactly what i did when i went rdna2 to rdna4.

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>>107485902
this all comes down to their monolthic cpu design. amds apus are also monoltic and don't have any of those problems. you can't have one thing without the other.

>>107485924
i don't really care, i just know that if panther lake is good i will be going back to intel because i've tasted both flavors now and i prefer intel

>>107485818
I don't see any reason not to reinstall the drivers.

>>107485825
Retard

>>107485934
estrogen cores

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what even is the point of xmp/expo if my ram kit is only 5200mhz
being a poorfag is suffering

>>107485803
>>107485808
Must be an AMD thing- I swapped out my 5600 ram for a pair of 6000 sticks on a 14600K over the weekend and... it just booted. I was expecting some training time. There wasn't.

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>>107485867
You mean those Noctua foam inserts? I also have very good experience with them. Both my Deskmini and the SFF Densium-built improved a few degrees. I guess there is some more hot air circulation happening with these

>>107485818
The only thing you gotta do is wipe your shader cache which you can do from the AMD control panel. Keep in mind that not all apps/games shader cache inside the driver, you have to manually delete it yourself.

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>>107485887
same case, just stuck a bit of foam around the cpu fan and it magically lowers temps because its not recycling hot air. I'm surprised how effective it is because the cpu fan was only 13mm away from the perforated case to begin with.

6-8 degrees isnt a lot but its massive when you were hovering around 60 degrees when the fan gets noisy. Ill be fan ducting all future SFF pcs if i can.

>>107485948
yeah that exact insert. went from intermittent noisy pc even when browsing the web to silent.

>>107485818
i've done it, its the same driver, i had no trouble, i didn't change a thing, i did have to tinker with the driver settings itself to get my preferences re-saved, as they were wiped, otherwise no issues.

>t. 6900xt to 7900xtx

>>107485958
You can probably fit a fan above/under your motherboard there
look into slim fans

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>>107485986
i don't remember in which video but valve explained why they added that lip. it lowered the temps by a big ammount apperently.

Would you recommend a WD blue or seagate barracuda?
I will be using this to store PDFs, music, games and movies

>>107486024
never bought a single hdd and i always ended up using seagate drives in the end. never really had problems with them.

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why should I not duct front fan to cpu cooler like in this pic?

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>>107486042
might as well go all out

>>107486042
lol
lmao
rofl
you retard ssee one optimum tech video and make your whole lives revolve around whatever he does

>>107486042
You should. It looks sick

>>107485945
It's still a lot better than not using it.

>>107486042
You might want to cool your ram. Really if you are going to go that far just get an AIO.

>>107486052
>*roasts your vrms*

>>107486069
there is still a fan above blowing on it

>>107485519
>>try to remove gpu, one side lifts while the other is stuck. somehow take it out, don't know how (I blacked out)
so glad my board has that button release, well glad for now I'm sure it'll break eventually and screw me over

>>107486042
Just run an open loop at that point. It gathers all the heat and dumps it outside the case. No recirculation issues at all.

So you can either have this or get one of these new fancy 3 chamber cases, to have seperate airflow for CPU rad, GPU and PSU. Because you deserve that last FPS, only costs 500 bucks extra. I rather 3D print a fanduct and have the same effective cooling

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>>107486024
my 4 hdds are 2tb seagate (surveillance to be specific) that I stole from my job, despite their high error rate (just an odd seagate quirk) they're solid
I also have another one laying around since I ran out of sata ports

>>107485947
I don't know what AMD is struggling with so much. It's gotten worse from AM4 to AM5.

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How do i make sure i buy a gpu just before what i call, "cutoff", when WWIII starts and all the semiconductor supply chain gets fucked and all electronics go 1000x up in price?

>>107486053
what video
literally who
take meds

>>107486057
>>107486076
I have FD Torrent and a decent cpu air cooler that I do not plan to change any time soon, just had the idea after seeing >>107485867
Gotta rig a cardboard prototype this weekend.

>>107486113
why would you set yourself this artificial line. just get one right now if you need one.

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did Asus lower the 60hz input lag on the PG32UCDMR refresh?

XG27UCDM vs 32"

I hope the coating is not eyeraping on the 32" qdoled I am considering returning to 32" qdoled

>>107486003
i didn't realise there was enough space under the mobo since my wiring is messy as shit. I'm seeing other people have done that so I might look into it, the space is so small and hot I feel like any slight adjustment leads to big changes.

>>107486113
stop waitfagging

>>107486096
AMD licenses memory controller IP from synopsys
intel designs everything in-house

same with chipsets: AMD contracts asmedia, intel designs their own
same with USB controllers: AMD contracts asmedia, intel designs their own

>>107486113
If you want something official from someone at Powercolor, last week of December. Prices and deals are set, afterwards there will be increases. Of course they might be bullshitting but you should, if you can.

I mean, there are a million hobbies not requiring a GPU but who wants to waste time on that?

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>>107486113
>buy gpu
>get drafted to GoyimWars3

>>107486156
nobody is going to war over another country apart from americans maybe.

>>107486168
you have to be 18+ to post here

>>107486178
name one good reason to do something like that?

>>107486184
>>107486168
Did they stop teaching you retards history in school
Do any of you even go to school?

>>107486191
What possible reason is there to go to war against a country over another nation, if the threat is not existential to your own country?

>>107486113
you should have bought like 10-15 days ago the fuck were you doing? those were the best GPU prices in the last 3+ years and you can still get something pretty good for 300~

Hi guys I'm trying to build a new pc. My aim is to use RTX 5070 ti coupled with amd ryzen 5 9600x. The problem is that I cant find a decent and not too pricey motherboard. I'm not that knowledable about this shit but I start to get lost between mobos and RAM, like the compatibility stuff, running in EXPO mode, tinkering in BIOS.

I would really appreciate some suggestion for a decent mobo without any RGB lights, wifi but with PCIe 5.0 and m2 slots.

>>107485803
DDR4 works almost instantly and DDR5 can take up to 15 minutes to train it initially. So, it's a lot longer than 3x, potentially.

>>107485818
takes like 5min worst case to do a clean install with nvidia's latest driver + nvcleanstall
surely ayymd can't be any slower than that?

>>107486168
Anon there's a reason they call it WORLD WAR. People use the chaos of the initial war as an opportunity to strike at their flashpoints without repercussion.

>>107486313
nobodoy fucken cared about hitler attacking nations until he attacked them directly or their allies. unless someone is stupid enough to open a bunch of fronts with their allies nothing is going to happen.

>>107486333
You're the same person who thinks ram/storage prices are just a temporary fluke and will drop back down soon, right?

>>107486333
nobody wants a fucking world war and nobody wants to start one

>>107486285
>I would really appreciate some suggestion for a decent mobo without any RGB lights, wifi but with PCIe 5.0 and m2 slots.
They all have PCIe 5 and m.2 slots these days. Just to be clear are you saying you want one without wifi? Because they all have wifi too. And how much is "too pricey"?

I'd recommend:
MSI MPG B850 EDGE TI $230
Gigabyte X870 AORUS ELITE $220
MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK $250

>>107486333
go back to school man seriously

>>107486333
The Soviet Union invaded Poland and Japan escalated their war against China. Considering that there were only like 5 independent countries in the world outside of europe and america, that's a pretty bad number.

>>107486350
where does all the fear mongering come from?
>>107486357
explain
>>107486359
those had previous years before. it was just a continuation of ww1 + non aggression pacts

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>>107486373
forgot the picture

>>107486373
>where does all the fear mongering come from?
/pol/
Go back there

>>107486113
>waitfag STILL hasn't learnt.
how have you not learned the error of your stupid, poorfaggot ways? just BUY IT CUNT.

>>107486350
>soon
Not happening soon, but in a few years more production will be online. NAND production is easier than CPU and GPU production

Ladies and gentlemen NVMes are getting closed due to aids. I repeat NVMEs are closed due to aids. Get out of the pool within the next 12~ hours or be prepared to pay 50$+ fine, it might be already too late for some of us.
You can still buy a good 1tb drive for 120~ and thicker versions with just a 10-15% overprice. Do it now if you need it.

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gonna make a bet with myself and everyone in this thread. nothing is going to happen. wars are going to happen but not a world war. i see everyone in two years in the next /pcbg/ thread on the 09.12.2027. i'm going to archive this thread and save it somewere just to make sure. remember nothing ever happens.

>>107486456
I'm going to have to call BS
Invisible hand will push companies to fill demand

>>107486462
back to /pol/, retard

>>107486355
Thanks for recommendation

>And how much is "too pricey"?
My bad, I would say $220 is max but given I live in Europe prices are a bit higher so lets assume $200 for a mobo.

What I'm looking for is PCIe 5.0 for GPU, m2 slots, no lights, wifi is optional (but I elevates th price) and should work with cl30 6000Mhz DRR5.

>>107486464
Why sell a product for $5 when you can sell it for $10?

>>107486462
>remember nothing ever happens.
The bubble will fizzle out at inflation rate. Lines must go up.

>>107486477
Because someone else will sell it for $7
Like I said, NAND isn't that hard to produce

>>107486473
i'm not the one in this thread saying that due to ram prices ww3 is going to start or that this is a sign of the end times. so whatever.

>>107486477
The west won't. China will be happy to take over the market completely though, which is what is going to happen.

>>107486498
12 million on food stamps. they deserve it.

>>107486502
oh wait 42 million

Whats the difference between RAM 6000Mhz and 6400Mhz when it comes down to performance in gaming? Can I just lock RAM frequency in BIOS to 6000Mhz ?

>>107486486
Prices in modern industries is pegged to a relatively inelastic demand because of credit and leverage. If there's people willing to pay $10, no one will sell it for $7 if they want to stay in business.

>>107486512
with intel just set it to 6400
with amd its more complicated if you want to go over 6000

>>107486512
>making blanket statments without mentioning anything else

>>107486523
If the production capacity exists, they will, unless there's price fixing which has happened before. If the production capacity doesn't exist, more will be brought online if it's profitable to do so. The latter won't happen overnight

Ok, no cap, do I buy RAM now or wait until I do my whole build next year?

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>not a single independent review exists across the entire internet of the pg32ucdmr refresh testing input lag
am I just gonna guess if they fixed the 60hz lag or what?

>>107486548
It's an OLED, so input lag should be non-existent. Input lag is only a problem with miniLED in HDR mode

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>>107486545
You buy it 6 months ago, that's when you buy it. Buy your storage drives too right fucking now aswell. Dumbarse.

>>107486534
>>107486512
I just want to make a build and RAM frequency vs mobo is getting tiresome. I think I should use 6000Mhz but most mobos I find run 6000Mhz in EXPO mode and if I understand correctly it has to be set up in bios. Also I want to run it with ryzen 9600x and 5070 ti.

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>>107486464
Invisible hand is printing USD and giving it directly to your new AI overlords courtesy of the USA taxpayers, no they weren't asked. RAM & NAND are a cartel and they were bought out because they are literal biological relatives of the people running the AI bubble. More so the entirely of the bubble is owned and fed by Blackrock & Vanguard from the companies making concrete and server racks, builder subcontractors to NAND & RAM wafer manufacturers and final product assemblers ALL have Blackrock & Vanguard in them and that fiesta is paid for by the USA taxpayer. Don't think for a second that this wasn't planned. One of the actual goals is to fuck the consumer in the ass until it bleeds to death.
Here is an example.
All the memory, HDD & SSD used in the data-centers needs to be replaced every X years. When that happens they don't sell it. They shred it. Not a cute drilled hole on the side to preserve the resell value, no. Straight into the shredder and then they pull out any rare earths from the minced silicone.
Either start praying to Chyna Gods to descent from the Jade RAM Palace up in the sky peaks of the glorious Guanduangchuangbukang to unfuck the market or buy yourself a used dozer and wielding equipment. Because it won't get better in the foreseeable future.

>>107486559
>so input lag should be non-existent
pixel response time is near instant yes, but processing delay is an entirely different thing
you do know this

the refresh has built in power brick on the monitor side and looks more like the pg27ucdm in the back which has better input lag than the og pg32ucdm so maybe things are fixed? Maybe?! idk

>>107486559
>burn in
>worse black crushing than OLED while also having FALD blooming
>worse contrast than OLED
>bad response times
>sample and hold
>input lag
Mini Led is a huge L. Better sticking with traditional backlight IPS displays.

>>107486564
If the EXPO profile is 6000 then it's like 2 clicks to set it in bios. If it's over 6000 then there's a chance it won't work and you'll have to manually set it to 6000 but that isn't hard either. Either way it's really not anything you should be afraid of. And the motherboard doesn't really have much to do with it.

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Trying to get a somewhat budget AM5 build going. Something good to last at least to 2030 if not well into it. thoughts/advice?
idk anything about motherboards other than it has to be B650 so if there's a good option I'm all ears. and if the cpu/gpu have good alternatives I'd hear them

do nothing ever happens people literally have dementia

>>107486579
Could you recommend some mobo for $200 with PCIe 5.0 for GPU and zen 5?

>>107486571
>processing delay is an entirely different thing
And it's nearly zero on OLED. Like I said, that's a problem with miniLED when using FALD, not OLED. I vaguely remember there was some issue at 60 Hz that anon is likely referencing, but who's running a 240 Hz monitor in a 60 Hz mode? We're not talking about VRR here, just a straight 60 Hz mode

>>107486570
very funny and well written anon, but the fact remains that building fab-plants for high-spec silicon is a decade+ planning process, and it can't be rushed. If they try to build a fab plant to make DDR5 from right now, it'll be 2 generations old obsolete tech by the time the plant is finished and ready to produce. Thats why the wafer companies aren't scaling up, they're already planning as much safe growth as possible.

>>107486589
>$400 ram
Ouch.

>>107486590
the more things change the more they just stay the same.

>>107486564
you do it in bios. But if the EXPO setting keeps failing, just set it to XMP instead.

>>107486589
>7500f
>last into 2030
You would be lucky if it's enough to run GTA 6 at 60fps next year. You need a 9700x.

>>107486611
>cores for gaming
No.

>>107485161
I literally just built a Ryzen 5 9600x, Rx 9060 XT 16 gb fractal terra build this summer and these memory shortages have me questioning whether I just FOMO buy a 2-slot Rx 9070 XT while they even still exist anywhere near MSRP.

How fucked do you think the thermals on my terra would be if I chucked a 2 slot 9070 XT in there?

>>107486618
the consoles have 8 cores. any big games that want to sell a lot of copies would target the low clocked console cores.

>>107486623
Consoles APUs run at 480p upscaled to 4k with framegen to bring them from 20 to 60 fps.

Seems like NVMEs are taking off in the last couple days. Already sold out a bunch of places.

>>107486641
i don't count fake frames

>>107486623
>the consoles have 8 cores.
You'd think this, but devs still haven't learned how to multithread. Consoles have had eight cores for over a decade but games are still single thread limited

>>107485161
I wanna build a PC purely for crazy VM and emulator stuff. Obviously the RAM prices have fucked me, but is 32GB RAM good enough for PCem, 86Box, running Windows 10 in a VM and still having a good time on a Linux distro?

Asking since I'm wondering if I should guy some Zoomer's PC and recase it in a scenario like this.

Planning to use the Silverstone FLP-01 case for reference.

>>107486650
And people buy 12-16 core CPUs because they have better single core performance than 4-6 core shitters.

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>>107486651
use an Silverstone FLP-02
>>107486650
yeah true but who wants to have less cores then consoles?

>>107486651
You can run windows 10 in qemu/kvm quite easily with 32 gb of ram. You just won't have a ton of extra memory for having tons of extra background processes open

>>107486660
The six core 7500F he picked is way faster than the eight core console APUs. Who gives a shit about cores? He's a poorfag buying a 9600 XT

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>>107486656
Not worth it for gaming. If you want something better than a 9600X, you get a 9800X3D. Not for the cores, for the cache

>>107486679
stalker 2 is dogshit. ukraine should get bombed more.

>>107486596
Okay, got you. Here are bullet points that should guide your logic.
All parts of the bubble are owned by the same Entity.
Mineral extraction of the full range from building to wafer
Mineral refinement pf the full range from building to wafer
Chemical consumables and the processing plants
Builder subcontractors
Wafer production
Chip fabrication
PCB production and assembly
Final assembly
Devilry subcontractors of all level from global shipping to end point drivers
Storage cells
Relaters
All of this is operating under the same ownership issuing global orders that are fulfilled. Each part of the chain can and is directly coordinated years in advance. Under these conditions do you think a shortage is possible unless it was manufactured intentionally? They were building data centers at breakneck speeds for the past 3~ years and from the start they knew they will have to build more. It was preplanned for the decade from the inception, yet the shortages are expect to hit now? Even when THE MANUFACTURER KNEW THE UPCOMING DEMAND 5 YEARS IN ADVANCE? EVEN WHEN THEY ARE PAYING UP TO 2 YEARS UPFRONT AND HAVE 14 TIMES THE DEMAND? ARE THEY ALL INSANE AND STUPID?
My guy we are genuinely getting RAMed in the RAMhole for no other reason than some old shriveled cretin who won't live to see the middle of the century doesn't want you to own anything.

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>>107486683
Devs can't multithread

>>107486643
>been kicking around the idea of getting a second 4tb nvme
>the one I was eyeing already up $40
Fuck I need to make a decision fast before it explodes

>>107486696
yeah and i posted the solution to this problem

>>107486688
The logic is that they expanded production 5x but demand increased 20x.

>>107486705
no actually, they reduced production just this year and a year before. I am not joking, they literally did.

>>107485345
holy guacamole

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>>107486601
yeah it sucks

>>107486611
Not really interested in GTA6 (or most other AAA desu)

>>107486651
Gut° not guy lol

>>107486660
Yeah I saw that. I grew up with pizza box style cases like old Dell Optiplex surplus PC's from my Dad's work that were basically retired.

I have a beige tower running 98/XP already.

Thought I think I might be shooting myself in the foot with the FLP-01 cause of the footprint for most modern builds :/

>>107486721
>990 pro 2tb 270$
huh?

>>107486751
i kinda don't like the height of the cause. it's just too tall imo. flp2 looks just right and is based on a modern case.

>>107486666
Yeah I figured, obviously wouldn't multi task if I was solely using the Windows 10 VM. It's just a nice thing for weird shit like DAWs, and some emulator tools that devs refuse to port to Linux (some Wii tools are like this)

>>107486763
Cool good to know. Last time I built a PC was 2017 and I have it with an old i7 and 16 gigs of RAM with a capable video card able to easily output to a CRT monitor.

That computer though is definitely showing its age imo. Pretty sure the power supply, or caps, sata ports or heat control are fucked.

I have had hard drives flake out in that box so it's one of those couple issues.

Wanted to just move onto a new computer desu.

>>107486763
Forgot to say, thanks so much for confirming. I appreciate it a ton my dude

>>107485218
NSA intercept

>>107486751
Is there a reasonably future proof video card I can buy for less than 1500 for a 9800x3d system? With how fucked everything is this build is already pushing 4k.

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>>107486785
>>107486794
the flp01 was like an april fools joke but everyone liked it so much the actually made it. the flp02 was actually made to be a good pc case.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/11/big-beige-80s-pc-case-started-out-as-a-joke-but-its-becoming-real-in-japan/

>>107485218
OpenAI has asked TSA to requisition your SSD. Sorry, anon.

>>107486817
True, I just have a huge nostalgia boner for pizza box style cases.

>>107486593
>And it's nearly zero on OLED
it's not in 60hz on the old pg32ucdm
>but who's running a 240 Hz monitor in a 60 Hz mode? We're not talking about VRR here, just a straight 60 Hz mode
60hz games in full screen forced, cawnsawls

>>107485803
Yeah I have fully tuned ddr4 and ddr5 setups and the ddr4 system boots up twice as quickly

>>107486811
Linux or Windows? I would just get a 9070xt for Linux and a 5070ti for Windows.

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>>107486643
>I didn't buy 990 Pro 2tb for 90€ last bf because I was kvetching and asking myself if I really need stuff (could have put in my laptop in the meantime)
>did not buy 4tb kc3000 for 180€ last bf because I was kvetching
the rides never end, never think, just consoom, things like these always come in handy and use

>>107486643
I've been shouting from rooftops about it for at least 2 month. Right now you can still get a goodish deal by paying 10-15% retard tax.
I expect prices to start spiking by the end of the week.
>t-they already are
kek

The price of RAM will come down in 3 months and the panic and the price hikes are entirely down to Youtube tards whipping people (and scalpers) into a frenzy.

>>107486918
Sick coping mechanism bro. Don't forget, we live in hell.

>>107486918
Where is the supply going to come from when manufacturers are not increasingly production or outright leaving the consumer market?
Where is the demand going to go when the contracts causing the shortage are public and extend for the next half decade or more?

>>107486929
This is true. My sister who is a way deeper believer in God that I could ever be had one good point: Hell is isolation.

Why do you think our society is so hell bent on isolating and dividing?

When you realize that, you'll get it.

Not to be a Doomer though. Push comes to shove, everyone will do whatever for the breadline so having a moral compass about it won't even help at that point.

It's still good to be aware.

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>>107486862
I would argue the RX 9070 XT regardless.

Unless you have a hard-on for the now defunct Physx, AMD cards are "gud enuff"™ without spending an arm and a leg.

If you can get a lasr-gen 12GB+ VRAM card, maybe, but I don't think the 50-series and DLSS4 warrants the price tag.

>>107486918
The actual shortage has not begun yet and right now we are dealing with speculators and panic buying but it will happen and is inevitable.
The shortage window will open starting from (potentially late q1) q2-q3 2026 with actual famine hitting the market in approximately q4 2026/q1-2-3?+ 2027 and lasting up to 2030. This is true for both RAM and NAND but NAND will be disproportionately affected at least for the next 2 years.
So right now they don't actually have a reason for these prices but in half a year they will have a reason, in a year they will have a very good reason.

So long as I buy ram and memory now should I just wait like a year to buy everything else? Surely when the market is devastated by memory priced you'll be able to scoop CPUs, cases, AIOs, PSUs, ect for clearance?

>>107486965
true but nvidia gave the 5070ti 16gb of vram which was a mistake.

>>107486976
stop spreading fud

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this 3 weeks old image still holds
RAM is already kill.
NVMe are about to be kill so now or never.
GPU are still up for a bargain price never seen in the last 3 years and you can get a great deal.
HDDs are still up for grabs and people haven't realized that the demand for them will spike the price so you are not overpaying that much if at all.
The issue here is that the prices of RAM & soon NVMe will pull up everything else even though there would be no reason for other parts to go up, this is just how the market works. It will take longer so you shouldn't stress too much over it, but it will happen if you wait long enough.

>>107486918
The ram harvested from the ram pits will save pc building

>>107486943
Micron makes the worst memory. Who gives a fuck about their exit? Let them scam corporations and governments to overpay for their garbage.

>>107487041
>The issue here is that the prices of RAM & soon NVMe will pull up everything else even though there would be no reason for other parts to go up, this is just how the market works. It will take longer so you shouldn't stress too much over it, but it will happen if you wait long enough.
I just bought a 4 TB NVME (Samsung 990)

... if I can afford it, should I buy another?
I mean, Im still waiting for most of my new build parts so I cannot test if I get a lemon in the meantime. Per my research and other anons, it appears my motherboard can hold up to 3 NVMEs without killing my PCI Ex 5.0 x16 lane for my GPU.

Do gen 5 nvme drives REALLY not make a difference?

>>107487079
only if you don't care about your GPU being downgraded iirc

>>107487013
anyone who listened to my "fud" has made x4 profits or is masturbating in front of the mirror thinking about how great and smart they are while tickling their nipples with 150-200$ RAM sticks

>>107487077
Samsung makes the worst ddr5 memory IME

>>107487087
That's only for Intel.

>>107487079
Only if you need the speed. For games? No.

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You were all warned. Warned right here, in fact. Some listened. I did. Those who did not listen are doomed for at least 2 years.

p.1 currently have a 7900xt and everything feels like a sidegrade except for the 5090
p.2 it will be my last chance to upgrade until 2030
p.3 I don't want to sit on a gpu that can only do fsr 3 for the next 4 years
what do i do

>>107487087
What do you mean by this? Gen 5 nvme ssd does basically nothing for average users. You need to be doing pretty intense professional level read/write to get really any benefit out of gen5.

>>107487078
Depends on your budget and on the deals you can get. My first goal would be to make future proof machine without wasting any budget on nonessentials. If you have unlimited budget and can get a good deal, yes.
Three weeks ago my answer would be buy as many as there are m2 holes on your mobo and just keep them sealed for the next 3-4 months. "Worst" case you get best storage on the market for cheap, "best" case you just got a front payment on your mortgage... or at least 30% discount on the next gen upgrade

>>107487129
Buy a 5090

>>107486042
>>107486052
pretty much most 90s/00s pc had duct inserts to focus the air. it's hilarious it was already figured out then lost now rediscovered. fucking millennials

>>107486944
It's very hard to know where you are on the cope/fomo spectrum at any given moment for the current crisis.

If you genuinely believe that this will all be resolved in 3 months, I genuinely believe you live in a delusional fantasy land.

>>107486811
>future proof
5070ti or 5080

>>107486862
>>107487281
How do the 5070ti and the 4070 super compare? They look very similar in benchmarks.

>>107486456
>journofaggots live and breathe by clickbait fearmongering, better take their headlines at face value

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>>107487288
that is like the new way nvidia makes their gpus obsolete now.

this board is /pol/-lite at this point. non stop doomfaggotry, irrational retardation.

>>107487327
get your head out of your ass anon

>>107487327
browncoded

>>107487106
thanks for correcting me, i mustve been drunk when i last read that

>>107487158
I saved up for this doomsday scenario and I have 2 investment accounts, Im kind of safe

Im only fucked if my car ends up being bonkered soon but even then its fully paid off, Id just have to finance instead of paying cash

>>107487288
>4070 super
You sure you didn't mistype 4080 Super? I'm going to just work on that assumption because the opposite would be very dumb. They are functionally similar but there's no reason to buy the older model, it holds no advantage over the 5070 Ti and it's also out of production anyway.

RAM too expensive and the asshole from Sears I bought my sticks from on Cyber Monday seems to have been a scam.

Wat do?

>>107487273
No retard, I meant that it's for the long haul, but to at least be aware that you're literally living in hell should give you perspective on things.

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>>107487412
>Sears
Are... are you from the past?

>>107487427
Sears continues to "exist", but largely as just a shell for third party market shit.

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>>107487427
>spend several hours feverishly googling RAM prices until I find something non-throwaway for less than $200
>find one
>its on the fucking Sears website
>have a few laughs about it
>one week later
>no longer have anything to laugh about

>>107487327
Kill yourself rajeesh

>>107485161
What sorts of benefits do I get from core ultra that I wouldn't get with an i7-13700? Better power, lower temperatures? I'm comfort maxing a build. Quiet and cool 4 me.

Give me the best of the best PSU and case (full tower please, i have NBA sized hands, im 6'4") and cooler to complement this build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z6fbFZ
r8 h8 b8 me, this is my first AMD build ever since I was an Intelfag in my teens 2 decades ago

Id prefer no AIO unless you can promise me that thing will not shit the bed in less than 10 years, somehow my Corsair AIO has survived this long with my 4670K


Ive already bought everything on this list because I was a waitfag for the last 4 years and realized this is the Ride-Or-Die
I got enough $ saved away for this so you can see I dont really have a budget other than wanting this to last 7-10 years
also I literally had to learn all this new shit in the last month due to the panic, I was totally out of the loop until recently so you can laugh at me all you want, I know


>>107487270
2000-04 dell desktops even had this. whatever the brand was with the green theme, i remember my father having a dell that had green plastic duct/redirects

>>107487496
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z6fbFZ
Noctua NH-D15 or the G2 variant.

>>107487491
Well, for one thing, the Core Ultra won't degrade into useless dust. So, there's that.

>>107487370
If you actually have spare cash and can get 2-4tb NVMe's for a good price having at least 2 in case one goes dark would be safe decision you wouldn't regret no matter the white swan-ping-pong-ching-chong events that might show up.
If you can literally burn 1k and don't think about it, I'd consider getting as many of them as your mobo has slots, though I would do it a month ago. Finding a good price for premium drives is starting to get hard and personally the idea of recommending to buy at 25%+ overprice just doesn't sit right with me even when I know for sure that it will get worse.

>relative is offering parts from his PC
>figure it's a shitter build
>has a 3090
Fucking kekarooni. What the fuck. When I told him he could sell it to an AI faggot and build a whole new PC with the profit he didn't believe me.

>>107487552
The 3090 is only worth $600-650 now.
I'm buying one next weekend so I can run [spoiler]scientific computations[/spoiler] locally.

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>Ask for a budget build
>Gets recommended with the latest shits

>>107487327
Objective reality is not doomfaggotry, it is reality.
AIturds have bought out global NAND production for 2026. Every Single Wafer On Planet Earth and they paid upfront.
Do you not understand? There is no production capabilities for consumer demand because we can't pay the same amount AIturds do and we are competing for the same wafer, not only that we are competing with hardware manufacturers on top of that!
Consumer market for NAND is a low margin depressed market, Samsung, SK Hynix, Micron, and Kioxia WERE CLOSING NAND LINES FOR 2 YEARS STRAIGHT.
AI market for NAND is high margin, full stock preorder GIVE US MORE MORE MORE money printer.
AI will buy every single NAND wafer made for the next X years and manufacturers will beg for whatever scraps are left, if they are left. These are long term contracts. This is why consumer divisions are getting shut down. This shit needs a legislator to step in because I'm fairly sure this is illegal.
>b-but they will make more
and sell them to AI as well. AI data-centers have nearly unlimited demand as they have to replace old hardware, they are planning to build 500 data centers a year for the next 5 years. By the time they are done, the ones they are building today will need new silicone. This is literal endless money for the wafer producers. The demand for AI shit is so retarded it is screwing fucking copper markets.

>>107487665
its more that the key manufacturers amd, nvidia, samsung etc. dont make budget stuff on account of too low margins to bother, and they dont keep making last gen devices because they want people to buy new stuff

new gamer oriented cpus target at minimum 200€ price point. basic productivity parts want double from that
new gpus target at minimum 300€ and the good ones with lasting playable perf are double
ram now costs 50% of a console so no one can do anything with that

>>107487738
>ram now costs 50% of a console
More like a console costs 50% of RAM. Shit is completely off the rails.

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Bought one of these a little while ago, feels like a great deal now. I paired it with a 750ti (yes really). It's for a virtual pinball table that needed new hardware.

>console manufactures trying to outbid AI for DRAM wafers
kek, either they had long term contracts or their business departments are buying rope in bulk. 2026 is shaping up to be prime clown world

>was wonder what case to get
>look up good case 2025
>bunch of eceleb shill 217 say its the best case ever
>new 217 INF just came out and it get rid of the bottom front i/o port too so i get that one
>fucking fans keep making tinnitus noises
man i dont think any of the review shills ever mention how the fan vibrated or resonance making high pitch sound that make you go insane

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>>107487836
>8gb ddr4
>go check price on pcparts
its 63$ btw
>my yesterday 600$ no GPU build is still loaded
>price went up by 250
>?????????
>>107479460
yesterday these 1x8 5600 CL40 sticks went for 69$ and I picked them for the meme price this is what it is today

>>107487524
thanks, will start looking at that first for clearances once I also find some more full tower candidates, appreciate the help.

>>107487129
Sell it, buy a 9070XT.
Or just buy the 9070XT, hold onto the 7900XT for a few months and you will sell it for more than you bought it for.

>>107487665
Today's budget shit is yesterday's stuff, bought secondhand.

>>107487491
I don't think an Ultra will be less performant than a 13th gen. It comes down to pricing. And as the other guy said at class 700 the processor is starting to be at risk of burning itself out because this is Intlel's funny time period.

>quiet and cool
If those are your requirements rather than stating anything like "high core count work", then why go for Intel over AMD right now?

I have Ryzen 5 5600X + 6650 XT and since this might be the last opportunity to upgrade anything in the foreseeable future, I probably should.
What would you get?
I'm thinking about swapping my gpu, since 5600x is still pretty good, and going for newer gens would require a new mobo + ram (fuck no).
What would be a good pairing for my cpu? 9060xt/5060ti?
Maybe 9070xt? I'm currently on 1080p, might get 2k monitor in the future, but not 4k.

>>107488199
for 1440p get an 9070 or 9070xt, depending on the price difference.
xt is like 10% more powerfull but 10% more expensive (at MSRP).

>>107488228
Yeah, 9070 seems like a good option, because for 9070xt I would also probably have to get a new psu (mine is 650w)

My 1050ti will carry me for another decade

>>107488256
Anytime your PSU output is your limiting factor, buy the XT and use Afterburner to set the power limit down until you can replace your PSU.

>>107488322
It's kinda awkward to swap 650w PSU for 700-750 one, for a GPU that is 10% more powerful.
And if I were to get a good PSU (at least as good as my current Corsair RM650x) then I would have to cough up at least 100 bux for it.
Then suddenly 9070XT is no longer 10% more expensive, more like 30-40%.

Someone please help me visualize the price hike we're looking at. Envision a theoretical above average build in your mind.
Approximately how much do you think it would have cost to build 3-4 months ago?
How much would it cost to build right now?
And how much do you think it'll cost in 6-12 months from now?

is the 9070xt much better than the 9060xt for a mid-range set-up? i came across some money and can get a 9070xt and sell my 9060xt but i wanted to know if it'd be a huge jump/worth the hassle

>>107488421
It's like 66% faster

>>107488393
You would want more than +50 to have headroom, so a more fitting choice would be a common 850W. What I suggested was a long term future plan not something to do immediately. It is up to you.

DONT BUY ANYTHING JUST WAIT

>>107488432
thank you, kind anon
>>107488461
wait for what

>>107485789
>anus mb
lol. lmao even. you got what you deserved.

>Kingfast 8GB DDR3-1600
>eleven euro seventy-five cents (11.75€)
what's the likelihood of this being real RAM?

>>107488563
seems about right for ddr3

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>>107488570
Will 2x8GB sticks perform significantly better than 4x4GB? I can get 1 more stick of 4GB for free if I just want until the weekend when I'm off work and can visit my dad and steal one of his. Hopefully it's by a 4th unique manufacturer because that woud be funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RYTpKA8bkM

amd....won

>buy into high end equipment
>looked forward to discussing and enjoying seeing other people's high end equipment on /piggybiggie/
>December 2025, there are people trying to scrape together DDR3 emergency boxes

>>107488618
>vex
isn't this the guy who is too poor to afford a GPU yet still talks shit about nvidia?

How much can I sell my 3080ti for? I'm getting a couple ssd's and 5090 before the big crash

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Anyone recommend some decent small 2.0 speakers? Under $60

>>107488597
They should perform the same since 8gb ddr3 is always dual rank

Some 3rd party seller put 64GB on Amazon for £490. Lets see if they actually ship it.

>>107488663
Are the pebbles too big? I have the pebbles plus (2.1) and they're cool.

Well my prebuilt arrived and I had to spend like 5 hours getting my UI to look like win7 again but everything seems good. Zero bloatware is pretty nice for a prebuilt and it's kinda nice not having to deal with putting everything together myself for once.

Will i get bottlenecked buying a 5090 when i have 12900k and ddr4 64gb? My psu is 1000w so i'm fine in there. Thanks

>>107488801
It depends on your desired frame rate and game settings. But most likely yes.

>>107488418
DDR5 RAM has basically tripled in price so a build that would have had $150 worth of memory (~64GB a few months ago) is now paying $300 more. It's gonna get a lot worse through 2026 so expect to add a few hundred $ to that.
GPU MSRP bumps have already started to be announced, somewhere in the 10~20% range. If you would have paid for a $700 mid-range CPU a while ago, that will now be about another $100 more.
SSDs are already ~20% above the last dip but could get much, much worse as shortages start to be felt in 2026. 4.0 drives aren't as exposed as 5.0 ones so far, but the 4.0 TLC SSDs that are still pretty popular as main drives have risen from ~$250 for 4TB to ~$300. I expect RAM-style skyrocketing in a few months if nothing happens.

does ram actually impact game performance or just a meme? I have old ass 16gb ddr4 2400 and if I got new sticks I'd most likely need a new mobo and can't be assed to.

>>107485161
>Build my PC up
>Sitting at my desk
>Not enjoying vidya at all
All this power... and I spend all of it on YouTube and 4chan...
Least I didn't buy an OLED as well, I'm sure I would get it pretty burnt in at this rate.

>>107488952
Depends on the game

>>107488952
It does, but how much depends on the game. Faster memory access is always a good thing, it's just usually not a major bottleneck so the gains are marginal (expect a few % more fps and less stuttering on average, not a jump to the next refresh rate).

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I need medical help.
Every day I sit on my ass and watch the best deals ever on 9070 go out of stock one by one only leaving behind the overpriced shit models in shit stores.
I can feel fomo eroding my sanity with every page refresh.
I don't even need a new GPU, the only big game I played recently was free weekend Darktide and it ran at perfectly fine 50fps most of the time.

>>107488618
the guy literally uses a voice changer?

>>107488801
You will. 5090 gets bottlenecked by the 9800x3d too

>9070xt -> 4nm
>5070ti -> 5nm
>nvidia faster
how?

>>107488441
I hear you.
I'm just thinking that both long and short term it makes less sense to buy 9070XT.
Getting 850W+ PSU just for 9070XT is pointless, it's only worth it if I were to consider upgrading from 9070XT to something even more powerful a few years in. Considering the market, I'm not sure I will.
And even if I were to upgrade, just getting 9070 now would be smarter, I would spend less shekels right now and if market isn't completely fucked 3-5 years from now, I could just get a new PSU + powerful new GPU then. Would spend less shekels overall this way.

>>107488988
The time right now is not to waitfag, just pull the trigger desu. I hate to say the meme, but it's only money. Surely there are Russian Credit Cards with extremely low interest

>>107488988
I understand your situation, I hope you have more strength then me. I gave in and upgraded from a 4070 to a 9070XT. First time I get to max out my games in 1440p, even without upscaling. I currently play Stalker GAMMA and the difference between these cards is night and day. I am poor now, but my mind rests easy.

>>107489009
it's not about size, it's how you use it.

>>107485161
>5090 rog astral OC
>96gb 6000mhz corsair dominator titanium
>9100 samsung pro 8tb
>ASUS ROG Crosshair X870E
>Ryzen 9950x3D
>be quiet! Dark Power Pro 13 1600W

Should I just pull the trigger and build this rig before prices get even worse thanks to the retarded AI bubble?

>>107486069
>>107486071
And it would wise to design the air ducts to divert some of the incoming air towards the vrms, otherwise is completely retarded.

Will my PSU (Montech Century G5 850W) handle a 5080? I know it's not the best but it's fairly new and (on paper) even a bit overkill.

>>107486156
Not me, I'm doing the family tradition of dodging the draft by moving out to another country.

>>107488996
Why tho? What cpu do I need?

>>107489056
Nvidia is quite efficient so should be okay, if you don't have a 14900k OCd to oblivion or some other insane power hogs in your system. Transient spikes should be fine and if its unstable you can always undervolt a bit. But pretty sure thats not needed, so go ahead

>>107489017
I brought up the 850s because those are just a soft "standard" for high output PSUs nowadays. Whoever makes them will price 850s only slightly more than 750s, if they even make the latter at all.

>>107489070
>OCd 14900K
Lmao no, I have a 5700X3D, I've never seen it draw over 70W.

>>107489038
You already missed the old price, you're paying the current bad price, if you're going to whale out you may as well do it now before it gets even worse.

>>107489017
>>107489072
If your PSU is good quality and there is a meaningful price difference between the 9070 and 9070XT where you live, go for the lower one. Its really efficient and good performance for the money. I can bring the powerdraw of my XT down to about 250 watts without loosing too much performance. So that might be an option for you as well, to run it with a strict 250 watt power limit

>>107489090
100% fine then! The 5080 will barely reach 300 watts on its own.

>>107485808
>this is entirely an amd thing because they suck
This is just a skill issue plain and simple my AM5 system post and boots to windows in under 10 seconds

>>107489063
Nvidia driver overhead and 5090 being too fast
Just stick with what you have until the 10800x3d drops and upgrade your CPU then

>>107488418
>3-4 month ago
GPU - 750$
CPU - 200$ + 40$
Mobo - 150$
RAM - 2x32 30cl 6000 for 250$
Storage - 2tb NVMe for 150$
PSU - 140$
Random case from the garbage pile
For a total of 1700$~ and it was easily possible to bring it down to 1.5k with a few cuts/deals.
>currently
RAM - 2x32 30cl 6000 for 660$
Storage - 2tb NVMe for 220$
New total 2100$~
>6-12 months
There is a very big difference between 6 and 12 and it is very hard to predict a psychotic market. RAM, NVMe and then GPU will drag up everything.
Short answer - more. Lowest point would be about 2.6-2.8k and there is no ceiling.

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>>107485161
It already started...

>>107489332
ladies and gentlemen, 1000$ per 1tb of NVMe by the end of the January

>>107489101
The 5080 can transient spike up to 500w

>>107489367
Transients are absorbed by bulk caps on the GPU pcb

>>107489391
>absorbed
the GPU caps are for smoothing but IDK if they can supply what >>107489367 is describing, which is a spike in power demand measured at the input side of things

I know that prior to certain bios updates, asrock AM5 socket motherboards were damaging some AMD CPUs.
How do I determine the earliest bios version which resolved this CPU-damaging issue?
I want to figure out if the bios pre-installed on my mobo (B850 Pro-A) is from before the fix or after the fix so I know if I need to update my bios or not.

>>107489332
Im starting to be confused
like the AI shit started many years ago with datacenter investment ramping up over time

do they like, not communicate what components they might want in the next 2-3 years to component manufacturers
were samsung, sk hynix completely caught off guard by the notion that someone wants their shit so they didnt ramp up production for several years

>>107489458
Go by Agesa version. Anything 1.2.0.3g and up is safe.

>>107489463
thanks anon!

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>>107485161
fug I bought the newegg deal now I gotta build the upgrade I didn't really need

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>>107488418
>Someone please help me visualize the price hike

>>107489458
>>107489463
I went with an Asrock B850m Steel Legend and 7600X3D, needed to update the BIOS as well. Hopefully the issue is resolved for good now. desu felt like a lot of sample bias, since that subreddit was going nuts about it. Saw Wendell from Level1Techs test a few murderboards but was not able to reproduce it.

>Delivery failed we will try tomorrow
>Check the tracking number on website
>we will arrive in 1 hour
>check the live delivery
>estimated delivery time 20 min
Did amazon throw my package to portal wtf is going on

I need a new Graphics Card:

CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2650 v4 (24) @ 2.900GHz 
GPU: AMD ATI Radeon 540/540X/550/550X / RX 540X/550/550X 
Memory: 7040MiB / 31936MiB

The problem here would be the X99 motherboard and the Xeon CPU. I heard some people saying that those Xeon CPUs kill the GPU performance, something to do with throttling. I want a GPU with CUDA support because I will start to mess around with ML, so it would be nice to explore CUDA. My max budget for this is $1000. Not planning to play video-games, so game performance isn't really important as long as I can get maximum use of the CUDA cores.

>>107489367
Thats true, but a good quality PSU is able to handle these. Having a 850 Watt PSU does not mean the second the draw goes to 851 everything shuts down. Most can handle 10% and these spikes are too short to impact the PSUs performance. I would not worry about it

I have 24gb ram is that dumb?

>>107488680
They actually sent it. Now do I actually do a new build or sell it for a profit?

>>107489647
Nice! I would keep it to build another system. But quite safe to say it will go up in value no matter what. If you get a matching GPU before the price hikes you might be able to get impressive returns, if you are into that kind of thing. Pretty sure a premium gaming rig will get a lot rarer in the upcoming 2 years, so profits can be had. There will always be people with more money than sense, and if Timmy needs that rig for 7500 bucks he can have it

>>107489637
Uneven channel spread means performance drop when reaching over the uneven point.
Like a less severe version of 3.5GB meme.

Anyone having experience with fully populating DDR5 on AM5? Still need to clock it down for stability? I have a 32 gig kit on the way but already went for 2x8 sticks because I got cold feet, unsure if the bigger kit would be shipped at all.
2x16 4800 Mhz Adata
2x8 4800 Mhz Crucial

Actually not having problems going back to 16, but wondering if 48 will be okay currently. Its a new set of problems we never had to deal with since RAM always was so cheap...

>>107489598
I never understood these programmer/workstation type people that have these unique hardware/software situations yet are clueless about how to build a computer.

>>107489598
Dual E5-2697 V4 here with RTX 4070 Super, you will be fine with any RTX card, ofc the older system hardware (e.g., my motherboard has PCIe3, DDR4 2133 installed) becomes a limitation but the card functions fine and is much faster than the 9 year old GPU it replaced.

>>107489739
It all depends on your CPUs IMC. More sticks are more stressful to run than less.

>>107489758
Its a 7600X3D. I will look how to populate the banks with the different sizes and just give it a go. Probably some stupid difference in subtimings. In the end I would be fine with the 32 gig kit, and maybe building a Steam Machine with the remaining 2x8 kit

>>107489743
kek i >>107489753 made my living supporting developers, scientists, and engineers. many of them were clueless when it came to stuff like hardware selection for a computer, even the ones that did hardcore electronic design. some of these people were actual wizzards in their fields.

>it's just not their thing so why spend the brainpower to learn it when randos on /pcbg/ can halp?

>>107489332
Just ordered a 4TB T500 just to have a spare. I can live with 16GB RAM if one of my 4 DIMMs dies, I can't risk not having a backup option if my main drive randomly kicks the bucket.

>>107489783
>i made my living supporting developers, scientists, and engineers. many of them were clueless when it came to stuff like hardware selection for a computer
And I'm grateful that people like you exist. I'm not a programmer, let alone tech savy, I'm just a researcher that happens to use a computer. The Xeon setup was inherited from my University's lab. All our setup is made to run on those Xeon clusters, so I asked the IT guy to build a PC with similar specs so I didn't need to manually fix bugs on our pipeline. It did the job for a while, but now that I have to work with CUDA I'm not really sure if the Xeon will be a problem.
>>107489753
>my motherboard has PCIe3, DDR4 2133 installed
So it's basically the same of mine. Thank you for the clarification, anon. Just a question, how much you paid for your RTX 4070 Super? Because sometimes I see the same GPU ranging like 100% the price in the same marketplace, so I'm not sure what is the expected price for a card like that. I was considering the 4070 precisely (without the "super"), but maybe I should give the super a look.

>>107489709
Bur it doesn't hurt me right? Its still better than just having 16?

>>107489587
Vibe coded backend.

>>107489875
Sure it's better than performance drop when reaching swap file.

>>107489783
>>107489867
It's way more concerning because it heavily implies they lack the software understanding if they cant even comprehend the hardware they're using. basically you are one big phoney.

>>107489914
Like how Windows retards would be far better using Linux but they lack the software understanding and use dumbshit hardware like Nvidia.

>>107489582
>Asrock B850m Steel Legend
I am considering the exact same motherboard. It also support ECC RAM
I want an additional lil PC when out camping =)

>>107489932
just use both. no point in wasting time with nvidia on linux. just get a good amd gpu.

>>107487665
buy a used pc. better value for your money. no point in buying a bunch of hardware used. just buy bundles for a whole pc and sell the rest you don't need and add your own gpu.

>>107489914
>basically you are one big phoney
Not exactly. I would say that understanding the basics of hardware and software is good, but most researchers would gain very little by making the effort to understand it.
My project, for example, is simulating bacteria almost 90% of the time. I know a little bit of Python and Julia, but it's enough to work with my research. I hardly need ChatGPT to write code, especially since they are quite simple. As for hardware, I also think there's not much to gain besides knowing how to better choose a PC upgrade (once or twice in their lives). The core of my research is drug interaction with a line of chemicals produced in our labs, so the "tech" part is more secondary. We could, obviously, do everything manually, but it's quite common to leverage new technology to make the work easier. I would say that stuff like SciKit and Tensors became quite the standard in most bio labs.
>>107489951
>AMD
The problem is when you need to work with CUDA. Nvidia ends up being the only option you have.

>>107489951
I have only used nvidia on Linux and never had an issue. Only Debian gave me problems.

>>107489962
I don't want to get scammed

>>107489982
I'd give you the benefit of the doubt but with all these tech sector layoffs due to a large number of people not knowing what the fuck they're doing then yeah

>>107489992
ebay has a good return policy in europe. no questions asked return for 14 days if you buy it from a business for example.

>>107489984
When you say Nvidia on Linux you mean Linux without proper hardware acceleration (outside of CUDA).

>>107490029
Nvidia doesn't even work on basic compositor shit like xorg or wayland. Good luck trying to do HDR versus AMD.

>>107489982
>The problem is when you need to work with CUDA. Nvidia ends up being the only option you have.
nothing stopping you from using 2dgpusin1machine.

>>107489867
>paid for your
around 590 USD for it Sept. 2024, actually am in process to build a new system and I got a 5070 for 570 USD to use in it

>you also could use a 5070 in your system
>whatever you get make sure your power supply is up to snuff
>waiting for the parts is the most difficult part of the job

>>107490026
Thanks burgerman but I live in a 3rd world country where scamming is normal

>>107490047
just stab them if they scam you.

>>107489982
>core of my research is drug

oh shit, medical. i >>107489783 spent two decades supporting folks like you

>kekking at all the red tape

>>107490041
>stopping you
nvidia has all the market share in research labs, millions of Quadro cards out there, huge *nix base.

>nvidia GPUs not just for /gayming/
>amd has zero viable professional cards
>nvidia has >90% market share
>run along and play your /gaymes/ and let the grownups work, anon

>>107489461
yeah, you are confused. Why would they increase production? that makes prices go down! Are you aware that the whole NAND cartel was cutting down NAND lines and reducing production for the pats 2 years and including to like 2-3~ months ago? And they are not planing to ramp up.
We call them NAND cartel for a reason, because they fucking are one.

>>107490110
It would be a business cartel in the illegal way if they had to plot and scheme about how to fuck over customers. But they have such a strong grip on the market and the optimal way for them to make money is so obvious they don't need to "coordinate".

>>107490110
I wouldnt mind eu fining them for a few hundred mil

>>107490110
Frank Herbert had it all wrong. It isn’t the Spice Melange that expands consciousness and folds space-time; it’s 3D TLC NAND Flash, and let me tell you, the Baron Harkonnens of Silicon Valley are squeezing the planetary turnip dry. There is an ancient, unwritten prophecy etched onto the back of a motherboard somewhere that says, "He who controls the NAND, controls the universe," and by "universe," I mean the ability to install a single modern video game without having to delete the photos of your firstborn child. You have to admire the sheer, brazen artistry of the memory industry; it’s the only business model on Earth where the "invisible hand of the market" is clearly just three guys in a trench coat holding a wrench near the production line. They treat supply and demand less like an economic law and more like a thermostat they can just fiddle with whenever they want to buy a new super-yacht.
>>107490137
If capitalism were an actual company, it would have been liquidated decades ago. No other business gets to fail this hard, this often, and still demand that the government print trillions of dollars just to keep the lights on.

>gigabyte a520
Is this Motherboard good? I don't understand motherboard specs, any recommendation?

>>107490166
kek

>>107490166
>>107490194
It works with the predictability of a Swiss watch. The nanosecond an NVMe drive becomes affordable enough for a normal human to buy, a "mysterious and unfortunate event" occurs. A factory loses power for twelve seconds, or a contamination event ruins a batch of wafers, or maybe a CEO just trips over an Ethernet cable, and suddenly—oops!—global output is strategically cut by 30% and prices shoot to the moon. It’s not a cartel, okay? How dare you. It’s just a group of fierce competitors who coincidentally share a psychic link that forces them to stop making things at the exact same time whenever profit margins dip below "obscene." We are hostages to the silicon. We can’t go back to Hard Drives; listening to a mechanical disk scratch around looking for a file sounds like a robot dying of tuberculosis. We need the speed. We crave the read/write cycles. And the manufacturers know it. They could solder a 256GB chip to a motherboard, charge us $200 for the "storage tier upgrade," and we’d say "Thank you, sir, may I have another?" because we are addicts and they are the only dealers in town. The NAND must flow, but only at a trickle, and only if you pay the ransom.

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>>107487101
>or is masturbating in front of the mirror thinking about how great and smart they are while tickling their nipples with 150-200$ RAM sticks
Strangely specific.

>>107486944
>Hell is isolation.
Yes, for Christians, Hell is eternal isolation (from God). At the risk of sounding like a pseud and being incredibly off-topic: with regards to Hell being isolation, it's an interesting perspective particularly from a secular point of view if for no other reason than how that perspective interacts with the idea of human beings as social animals. Hell is isolation from the tribe. Hell is death. Heaven is being together with the people who share similar values to you. Heaven is life. It's reductionist to the point of ignorance because it misses all the nuance in between the two extremes but, as a midwit, it adds another dimension to the role and value of organized religion/Christianity that I hadn't considered before.

>>107490187
for what? what CPU you want to shove into it? usecase? to get into OS on a 300 budget? sure, its also an AM4 are you sure you want to build it? the prices are basically the same and its 10 years old junk

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Thank you, thank you very much. Look at this crowd. The fake news won't show it, but we have a tremendous crowd today. Thousands of people. And you know what they’re all telling me? They’re coming up to me, big strong guys, tears in their eyes, and they say, 'Sir, I can't afford a 4-terabyte NVMe drive for my Call of Duty.' It’s true! It’s true. And you look at what’s happening with the NAND. That’s what they call it, NAND. N-A-N-D. Nobody knows what it stands for, frankly, I think they made it up. But it’s very important. It’s the cyber. It’s the memory. And right now, we have a situation that is a total disaster. You have these companies—I call them the Three Stooges of Silicon—you have Samsung, you have Hynix, you have the other one. And they control everything. They control the world! It’s like the Spice, right? Like in the movie with the worms. Big worms. But this is worse, because at least the worms were honest. These guys, they sit in a room—probably a very nice room, not as nice as Mar-a-Lago, but nice—and they say, 'Let’s cut production.' Just like that. 'Let’s pretend the factory had a flood.' A flood! Can you believe it? There’s no flood. The only thing flooding is their bank accounts with YOUR money. When I was President, memory was cheap. It was beautiful. You could buy a stick of RAM for a nickel. Okay, maybe not a nickel, but it was very reasonable. Now? You need to take out a mortgage to install Grand Theft Auto. It’s a disgrace.