RAM is over.RAM speed (=latency) stopped progressing since DDR2, now it actually gets over.The technological progress is over and now we are regressing.Not only RAM gets worse but it's getting more expensive, you pay more and you get less, worse product.
>>107489547Yeah, but it got wider.Single CPU cores haven’t gotten much faster in a while either.
physIcs is a hard bottleneck retard. You're not goinG to GET fAster speeDs tHan Light
>>107489547Who DDR3 CHAD here
just put the RAM on-die.>but muh upgradability!nobody cares
>>107489547you're comparing jedec spec when nobody runs jedec spec. its all xmp/expo. also secondary timings matter way more than primary timings for ddr5.
>>107489692I have 6 systems running ddr3the intel haswell system would be really fast but for some reason intel block you from changing your own bios settings, I can't choose anything over 1600even bulldozer and sandy bridge did 2133
>>107489670I don't give a fuck what is the reason.The progress is OVER, OVER!!! Do you understand?
>>107489771jedec spec is over. use manual.
>>107489725you're delusional. the vast majority of PCs out there are running JEDEC speeds, EXPO/XMP is a highend PC thing only. You're not gonna find some generic laptop with 6000+ tuned RAM.
>>107489778https://github.com/DavidS95/Smokeless_UMAF
>>107489778you clearly have no idea what you're talking about stupid cunt.
>>107489787spotted the unemployed hobbyist.
>>107489778There's only 3 major dram chips in the world. Samsung/Hynix/Micron. They all hit above jedec spec since launch. If yours doesn't you got scammed.
>>107489796you clearly have no idea what you're talking about stupid cunt.
>>1074897701600 at cl9 seems to be the fastest on that list
>>107489796Are you ESL?>jedec spec is over. use manual.or are you the jit thats using 900trfc and 3000trefi?
>>107489796Like other anons said, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about bro
>>107489801>There's only 3 major dram chips in the world. Samsung/Hynix/Micron>They all hit above jedec spec since launch.where did I say otherwise?their main seller is JEDEC spec'd RAM for servers and generic PCs, for every 6000MHz binned kit they sell 100 4800 / 5600 kits.
>>107489827jedec spec is over. use manual.or are you the jit thats using 900trfc and 3000trefi?
>>107489827t. stupid cuntLaptop sellers all program their own custom timings unless you're a giga normie.
>>107489787>>107489807>>107489822>>107489833samefag harder unemployed nigga.
>>107489827>>107489822
>>107489841you clearly have no idea what you're talking about bro and now you're mad.post your zentimings to show you arent retarded jit .
>>107489841>Are you ESL?Okay you are. Thanks for confirming. I can close this ESL thread now.
>>107489841lol ESL confirmed.
Watch him mass reply like the assmad bitch he is
Yeah the RAM shortage caused a bunch of whiny bitches like OP.
>>107489778The vast majority also do nothing more intensive than opening a browser, which doesn't need more power than your telephone has. The average User hasn't needed to upgrade their pc in 10 years
>>107489847stop being an unemployed retard.
>>107489872telephones are vastly overpowered. my kitchen laptop has less than half the performance of my budget phone from 2022
>>107489547It is because of physics, you dolt. If you need to increase clockspeed (bandwidth) then you have a make a trade for latency. That's part of the reason why SRAM capacity (CPU) increased on modern CPUs. However, latency on SRAM increases the larger you make it.Memory access in general is a solved problem on single socket platform. It is a different story when you go beyond a single socket.
>>107489997>It is because of physics, you doltI didn't say it's not because of physics, nigga.What I said is that the progressino is over and we will never have faster or cheaper hardware, it's overino.
>>107489547>Not only RAM gets worse but it's getting more expensive, you pay more and you get less, worse product.OY VEY! MARKET DYNAMICS ARE EVIL!!CAPITALISM IS BAD!!!COMMUNISM WOULD SURELY PRODUCE SUPERIOR DDR5 RAM MODULES, COMRADES!!!!
>>107489547>RAM is over.Bro it's what you are literally using right now.What else could you use in its place? NOTHING!!!
>>107489547Is it better to have fast 16gb ram and slow storage or slow 64gb ram with precaching?
>>107490192the latter is always going to be better. 16gb is borderline unusable in 2025 just a few browser tabs and one or two other apps push you to over 50% usage. more RAM always makes everything feel snappier, specially I/O tasks in general because files are copied to RAM before being placed on disk.
>>107489725Then make your table with xmp specs for SDR/DDR/DDR2/DDR3/DDR4/DDR5, what are the latencies?
>>107489777It doesn't matter. DDR5 is not faster than DDR3 no matter what you use.
>>107489578Yeah, but for what 99% of people spend 99% of their time in a browser
>>107489973How is this a refutation to what he said???
>>107489870>Yeah the RAM shortage caused a bunch of whiny bitches like OP.I do not buy RAM, I am happy with the high prices, I hope the RAM will be over now.
>>107490104This but unironically. Communism is better than capitalism.
RAM speed was best in DDR3, now it gets worse.
