Be real.. for 99% webfags is php, basic css and jquery all they need...Fancy fags will use tailwind, lazy fags will use bootstrap..All visitors.. 5 real people and 200 AI bots per year will be happy with that.why the fuck you need nextjs or some shitty react spin off?Tell me pleas... All react jobs are in India because its cheaper then using tokens
>comparing client side tech with server side techok retard
>>107490890I agree, spa websites are buggy garbage
Theyre using react to offload the cost onto consumers.
>>107490890Ruby on Rails pays me double what I earned with PHP, so PHP sucks.
>>107490890>jquerybloat
>javascript framework is le badwhy is /g/ like this
>>107492186because React is overengineered garbage that is shoved into everything for no reason other than to enable retards and drive down cost of hiring. It makes the web worse, it makes development worse, there is not a single positive thing about it.
>>107490890i agree 100%, but>jquery in 2010+15usecase?
>>107490890I like react and react-native, I'm learning node js to replace my PHP code cause PHP is not flexible as JS
>>107492279theres tons of js dialects out there that aren't react
The reason why SPAs became huge is because backend in theory could do less compute instead of wasting time rendering walls of text to reply it to a client. Easy way to save on your AWS bill as it decouples your backend from layout logic. It's a genuinely great idea.The problem is in turn people put so much bloat in the frontend because they don't fucking know what they are doing and weird ass requests by PMs that enshittify software. It's not so much that React is a mistake than people don't fucking know how to build a good product.
>>107492335Why do you make sense on this board?We only post nonsense in /g/
using a browser to fetch and display hypertext :/using a browser to fetch and execute arbitrary code for each website that fetches and displays hypertext :o
>>107492335SPAs became huge because people were copying the giant companies. There is no reason for 99% of companies to have SPAs other than "well Facebook does it!". That's why React is retarded, it's overcomplicating things that should be simple.
>>107492429Hey, I love SSR too, I think htmx/hotwire/phoenix/etc are the shit.However it does make sense to use React when you’re trying to solve your cloud provider bill and secure a promotion. The mistake there is of course, staying in AWS.
I hate when some sóydev links to his personal blog on HN and it requires JS just to load fucking plain text and images. Literally why?
>>107492567People who have a blog and don't pre-render it all using Jekyll or similar are the worst.
>>107492598I remember seeing this one guy's blog that was written in React (I think) and it literally wouldn't load anything at all without JS, not even a "this site requires JS" warning.So I enabled JS and it looked like a super basic blog. Basic enough that he could probably get away with writing it in plain HTML and CSS by hand, never mind have to use something like Jekyll or Hugo.I really don't get it.
>>107492186More like React is le bad. Vue is pretty good.
why use CSS and react and all that fancy crap when the style attribute is right there
>>107492906because external css files are easier to maintain than inline style tags