>News & Rumors
Price rises for memory, storage, and GPUs expected to continue
Micron ends Crucial memory & SSD business
AMD Redstone announcement Dec. 10th
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch delayed or canceled
Nova Lake 2026
"9950X3D2" with Dual 3D cache & 9850X3D planned

>Omissions
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.
Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. 1.4V or 1.45V CPU VR voltage limit recommended.

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

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>PC Figures
<90mm base: Nendoroids, Deformed Figure, Mini Chara Stand
90-120mm base: Figma, Pop Up Parade (Non L/XL), Arylic Stand (<19cm height)
120-140mm base: 1/8 Scale, Pop Up Parade (L)
140mm+ base: 1/7+ Scale, Pop Up Parade (XL)
AVOID: Funko Pops

>>107490994
sperg

>bought shitty cl36 32gb ram like last week
>llm bros said its not enough
>check price
>doubled
AAAAAAAAA WTF

>>107491024
can you imagine
some people build datacenters full of ram to serve people and no one is ever going to pay the sub prices thats required to recoup the costs
all that ram is going to be trashed

>>107491024
If you are into LLMs why would you possibly think that'd be enough lol
Those local LLM freaks are still buying 128GB at $1500 they don't give a shit money means nothing to them

just wait for prices to go down

>wanted to build a pc for next year
>gets nuked out of a job
>ram prices skyrocketing
Guess who isn't getting an upgrade to their 11800H and 3060 (laptop)...

>>107491036
I thought AI wants VRAM why is DDR5 the cool stuff now

>>107491077
all the ram manufacturers are going "lmao fuck the consumers" and literally nothing is looking good about the situation

>>107490961
Ordered a 5-pack p12 pro and an Arctic freezer 36 that has the normal p12. Should i switch them to the pro? Rest are going to the case

>>107491115
Either would be fine but the p12 pro is better cfm

It's insane how much some of these mid 2010s games can still push modern cards at 4K maxed out.

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>have 48GB, 64GB, and 96GB kits on order
$1400 up in smoke but at least I can say I didn't miss out!

>>107491085
one big reason people bring up is that same factories that make consumer ddr5 chips can be used for AI related components
Like micron quit the consumer market https://www.equiti.com/sc-en/news/trade-reviews/micron-exits-consumer-memory-to-focus-on-advanced-ai-data-center-chips/ because apparently they can just make their existing consumer oriented factories switch things up to serve the big AI.

>>107491136
DirectX11 can be more unoptimized than DirectX12 it varies on the title. Wuthering Waves is prime example where DX12/Vulkan shits all over DX11/OpenGL ES.

>>107491134
Will do just that then, thanks

Thinking of the Antec Flux Pro for my next build. Anyone have it?

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>>107491138
>on order
Anon...I...

>>107491138
What are you going to use the ram on to recoup the costs?

>>107491077
will take about 5-8 years for the prices to roll back to the October level and 15 to get back to the RAM summer of 2025. Just you wait until they roll back consumer DDR6 to like 2029

>>107491115
FYI, the Arctic Pro fans run loud at above 900~1000 RPM, set custom fan curves that keep them running below that range when the CPU is under 60~70°C.
Test the noise level out using the BIOS' fan monitor or other apps.

so it seems my motherboard's a dud and i intend to have it replaced asap. are there any appreciable difference between b650 and b850 boards though cuz the one i want of the latter's no longer in stock

I fucking hate computers, what is my ideal PC build?

>>107491234
mac

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>>107491172
/pcbg/ merely adopted the wait, I was born from it, molded by it. I am the one who waits.
>>107491174
>What are you going to use the ram on
Use? Don't tell me you all actually use your PCs...

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imagine not listening to local aiGODS and buying ram when we told you to

>>107491192
Noted anon

>>107491330
I bought it
>Kingston FURY Beast DDR5 4x32GB 5600MHz CL40
applaud

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Waitbros, we grind

>>107491415
*Waitcucks more like, enjoy your toaster that can barely run CS:2, peasant.

Why are high-speed DDR5 kits (7600-8000) cheaper than 6000CL30 kits for the same capcity?
There are (were) a bunch of 48GB 7600-8000 CL36/38 kits for around $400, but the 6000CL30 kits start at $500. Is this just the gamerFOMO effect?

>>107491036
That's what I don't understand really, I imagine both companies and people would want their own local ai. Cloudshit isn't the future, people are already tired of it. It feels like the aitard companies are crashing the pc market deliberately since they realised no one want cloudshit anymore.

>>107491451
Because 6000MT/s CL30 EXPO is easy to apply to normies and retards.
Those higher speed kits need to be downclocked to 6000~6200MT/s or overclocked above 8000MT/s (with VDD/VDDQ adjustments) and changing the ratio of memory controller speed to memory module speed to 1:2.
If you're not retarded, get the cheaper, faster kits. But you'll need to cross-reference the board QVL to confirm they're Hynix dies if you want CL30 6000MT/s compatibility.

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>>107490961
How do I tell if my PSU has the right stuff to be compatible with a 5090? It's a Super Flower Leadex VII XP PRO 1200W 80+ Platinum

>>107491482
The settings I'm describing applies to AM5.
Intel DDR5 boards with a 4-DIMM slots may also require some manual tuning if you buy those 7600MT/s or faster kits, but the bottleneck is usually the CPU's IMC.

>>107491451
6000 just werks for the majority. Getting above 6400 to work is a gamble on the motherboard and imc so they don't sell anywhere near as well. Most people aren't willing to manually input timings either. They just go on reddit/google and ask what to get and everyone tells them 6000.

>>107491199
b650e = b850... kinda.

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>>107491057
>could have bought (in stock amazon) 390€ 6400c42 rgb 2x64gb kits
>now 5600c48 kits are 900€+ and going out of stock
>1000-1500€ normal from other retailers
>could have scalpmaxxed a few kits and used the money selling to fund new build and gotten the last jet out of this mess
>now it's all over
this is the end

>>107491330
>did not buy 2x32gb 6400c32 90€ during summer
it's over

boy I sure hope the "ram used to be cheaper in the past" posts die off soon

>>107491488
Check the product descriptions/reviews.
It's got safer, proprietary power connectors for the PSU side of the power cable.
https://hwbusters.com/psus/super-flower-leadex-vii-xp-1200w-atx-v3-0-psu-review/2/

>Motherboard with built in wifi
Wtf does this mean? If I buy a mobo without wifi does that mean I just don't have WIFI? I thought wifi is basic shit

>>107491689
global rule 2

>>107491689
wifi means the mobo comes with an antenna thats outside the pc case

>>107491650
>people get conditioned to ram costing certain new amount
>people forget about the ddr4 crisis
>time passes
>now ram is super cheap again
>people still don't buy
>they forgot about the prior ram crisis cycle
>new crisis hits
>repeat
>complain

>>107491689
nah

>>107491689
Look for boards with an integrated WiFi module if you need that feature; it's included in mid-range to high-end boards.

>>107491451
those kits are for intel not amd and intel is not as popular as amd now so their cpus/kits are cheaper.

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>>107491689
>built in wifi
Is just a card under emi shroud.

>>107491617
Could've should've would've
No point fretting over it when you don't have a crystal ball and if you did, timings stocks and crypto would earn you 100x more

>>107491756
won't motherboard cry about it after you rip the thing out? or is it fine with partial amputation and will boot as normal? genuine question

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>>107491783
>timings stocks and crypto would earn you 100x more
you think I also don't have fomo over that

>>107491756
>complains about something being easy to replace
we are doomed

>>107491796
my board has the option to disable wifi and bluetooth despite booth not being present. i guess it just shares the same bios with a board that has wifi and bluetooth

>>107491809
interesting, thanks. I guess it would depend on the motherboard and you just have to try it and hope it won/t randomly fry something for no reason.

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>>107491845
like i never noticed it. i just looked on the website. i also have a m.2 key e slot and my old board had a horizontal one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VW2aQ8Nxio
ram latency, just buy the cheapest ram for now

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>>107491871
i kinda like how my old board did it more since if you want to add wifi you can just buy a kit and don't need a stand or shield

>>107491905
>CL28-35-35
>35-35
how? they can only be even numbers.

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>>107491927
like thanks anus very cool

they stopped doing m key on am5 and soldered the wifi chip on the board so you can't change it, it's good for the dummies but bad for us tinkerers, I personally only use wifi 6e because win10

>>107491936
>he believes fake benchmark channels
its ogre

>>107491905
4800+x3d

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>>107491952
my poverty spec b650 board has one

>>107491965
yeah, I actually like b650 over b850 because they put wifi 7 in most b850s

anyone here using non led/oled monitor/s? I had really bad eye strain and I had to stop gaming. I bought a e-ink monitor and my eye strain has vanished. Also my eye floaters has been reduced. I want to start gaming again. I've found some monitors without backlight like the Eazeye Monitor 2 but its 60 fps and has big input lag from what I checked. Some people mod their monitors by removing the backlight and putting incandescent bulbs on the back to illuminate them. I've found a company that you can buy already moded monitors but I don't know if its worth it. They have 2 - 3 models, the best of them has 100hz panel and costs around 550 euro. Should I check for projectors? Are there any good and cheap non LED projectors?

>>107491989
eyestrain can come from so many things, no idea to your question

do you get eyestrain from mobile phones? lcds? oleds? wondering

>>107491964
i thought it would be a description typo but its also in the thumbnail. whats more worrying is people in the comments not calling it out.

>>107492022
I get eyestrain and burning sensation from LEDs in general. I have changed my home light bulbs to halogen and incandescent and I can spend 15 hours on the computer without any problem. LED street lights at night also fuck me up.

you can have uneven numbers if you're at command rate 2 and not using gear down mode, newbs

>>107491989
I had eye strain from all kinds of LED monitors from the oldest basic white edge led to rgb and fald.
Had to use the same old CCFL studio monitor that never gave me issues but recently tried WOLED and it's fine, no eye strain and the subpixel order thing is overblown.

>>107492059
ive never seen anyone run command rate 2 on hynix. thats a micron thing.

>>107492095
I will search about WOLED monitors but I don't trust anything LED related desu

>>107492129
>uneven subpixels
eyestrain
>if it's glossy
eyestrain
>high contrast
eyestrain
>high brightness and hdr
eyestrain
>bluelight
eyestrain
>low ppi potentially
eyestrain
>various artifacts due to woled
eyestrain
>oled built in flicker
eyestrain

>>107490961
How long will the 9060 XT last me if I only play games at 1080p?

>budgeting for around 3k eurodollars
>look at my nations biggest pc part store
>look at the the deals they have on pcs they put together
>ok nothing that good
>2.4k eurodollar 5070 + 7 7800X3D + 32gig ram
>can add 80 eurodollars to upgrade it to 64 gigs of ram instead
>another 90 to upgrade the 5070 to a 9070 XT
its dire when this seems cheaper than building it myself cause of prices here

>>107492164
the biggest one is the pwm stuff

>stock gpu
>getting sporadic page faults in dx11 games
Is this a case of ayymd drivers on Linux being dogshit, or should I return my graphics card?

>>107492171
if stores still have cheaper prebuilts considering ram are in there maybe
people were buying entire pcs just to get the ram itself..

>>107492174
4 u
I think low ppi might potentially be the worst one for oleds, on qdoled specifically
woled maybe not at all or less
but I don't think I've been pwm sensitive ever that much maybe idk
maybe I'm old now

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Found Mobius 120 OC for 10 bucks a piece anyone have any experience with them? They look very good for the price when most other nearby fans on the chart costs 3-4 times as much and at that point I could just buy the noctua g2's.

>>107492193
isnt amd supposed to be the go to on loonix?

>>107492129
OLED is very different technology with very different spectrum and PWM frequency not related to LED-LCD

Is there any point upgrading my gpu if I'm currently running an rtx quadro 4000 and my budget is 500 aud/330 usd?

>>107492207
Supposedly.

>>107492196
It seems like this specific store put up a pc build for sale and then didnt adjust for the ram price jack. Has now lead to it being cheaper to get their pc build with the 80 dollar upcharge to get 64 gigs of ram. The price of the ram alone is 600 dollars on the market here for reference.

>>107492164
>having eyes
eyestrain

>>107492193
>>107492207
>>107492237
it means nothing without more info. gpu? firmware? distro? mesa? what nigga

>People are still buying ram at these insane prices
>they are in fact buying more ram than they ever thought about buying before

It's over. The DRAM cartel has won. The prices will never go back to normal.

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>>107492276
9070xt
gentoo
firmware = 20250808
mesa = 25.2.7
kernel = 6.12.58

aka gentoo with the latest stable packages.

>>107491989
>Also my eye floaters has been reduced.
tell me more pls

>>107492193
>>getting sporadic page faults in dx11 games
https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk
also it's a temporary problem in the AMDGPU drivers for pagefaults. it happened the last two weeks before last week's update for my distro.

Reminder that in January all of China will shut down for Chinese New Year all the factory workers will go back to their villages and there will be 1 month of no new inventory of anything at all

>>107492309
try updating mesa
it could also just be bad games. some require ntfs for example and ur linux drive is ext4

>>107492370
if it's pagefaults it was def drivers. it will go away with updates.

>>107492366
That's good because I'm going back to china to visit relatives during that time and won't have time to stay up to date with stuff.

>>107492303
they arent
people are searching for cheaper smaller kits and nobody buying the super overpriced larger kits
its gonna stagnate and only ultra richfags gonna buy the 256gb kits and 32gb poorfag kits will even become unabuyable

>>107490961
mounting the liquid freezer iii pro 360 was fine, not super comfy but not a pain. the mx-6 that shipped with it was completely dried out and unusable, so I had to use mx-4 for the meantime. the PWM control cable sucks. If anyone buys this, I recommend to do a dry test run until you get a feel for the tension.

Are noctuas actually worth the premium or theyre just iphones of coolers

>>107492361
I see, thanks anon. I'll hold on to my gpu then.

>>107492509
They're very quiet, I've used noctua in all of my builds. Are they worth it? Eh... it depends. I don't know if I'd go out and buy 12 noctua fans for your full tower build unless you're going balls to the wall custom liquid cooling 5090. On the other hand, if you have an sff case and only need 2-3 fans, it might be worth it.

>>107492509
The radiators aren't anything special aside from being really well built, the fans are worth it. If you've already got a good rad just replace the fans.

>>107492509
what is the goal

>>107492509
They're slim quiet and other brands have to spin twice as fast to match their performance

>>107492509
they are good. they are even the best but you can get a 5 pack of arctic fans for the price of one noctua fan.
five fans are better than one fan unless you want to spend like 120€ on fans

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>>107492604
like it's not even funny

is it safe to buy something shipped and sold by newegg? still spooked by those scams and quality issues years ago

>>107492509
>>107492604
>>107492636
you can also get thermalright fans for cheap, a pack of rgb ones is 3 for $12 last I checked. They tend to quieter than the arctic ones while still having decent performance imo

workstation build for animation, 3d and shits/giggles, 3090 or 5070ti? going to wait for next generations, but I need some decent performance right now

>>107492689
i have a no rgb policy

>>107492337
I ditched everything LED related and my eyes feel much better. That's all. LED is directional light, that means it fucks your eyes. That's why all lasers are LED. You cannot have light with low power consumption that's not directional.

>>107492678
I've used newegg forever and have never had an issue. Only needed customer service once and it was painless. FWIW

>>107492678
probably the only thing you can trust
even amazon now says things will be "dispatched by amazon" and that means they can hire some 3rd party delivery company to take it once it leaves their warehouse. It's only guaranteed if it's Shipper/Seller Amazon.

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Corporate IT teams are in for a heart attack when they see the new Dell laptop prices

Dell has become Apple

https://rog-forum.asus.com/t5/amd-600-series/x670-x870-resource-thread/m-p/1128805/highlight/true#M11141

if you made the mistake of updating your asus boards' bios to 1804/1805 and started experiencing instability (ex: unable to boot into windows consistently), update to 1901 (beta)

>>107492729
>>107492719
should I check signature on delivery? Seems extremely jewish to charge 5 fucking dollars for that.

No rgb mfers when they turn on their new pc for the first time and the tee-tiniest orange light comes on the mobo for ram training

>>107492826
if it's being delivered by fedex that is a cosmetic option. the fedex driver will forge your signature and throw it on your front porch (or steal it)

how do i know? happened to me with a 5090 delivery. retarded zoomer faggot forged my signature (even spelled my name wrong) and tossed it in front of my door. i'm lucky i was home and watching the camera when he did it.

>>107492833
i also disabled those stupid leds. my pc doesn't have a glass side panel but you can see the leds trough the top fan grill.

>>107492840
damn, what else should I know before getting a 5090? It's actually insane how much power delivery nogs have over our stuff

>>107492864
record yourself receiving the delivery and then opening it in case you get fucked over with a box full of rocks

>>107492876
will do, thanks
do you know how newegg handles chargebacks, in a worst case scenario where they're not cooperative at all?

>>107492826
Depends on your delivery situation. I never require signature, personally.

>>107492890
worst case scenario you get your money back from the chargeback and newegg bans your account. desu if you live in the US, you should avoid buying expensive items from newegg and use bestbuy or microcenter...or even b&h

>>107492528
I also have one and it's a monster card. I want to get an 7900 XTX as well because of how impressed I am. the card is perfect, it's the AMDGPU driver repo that has been fucked up twice being the recent pagefaults and 6 months ago there was a binary blob one. everything gets fixed fast.

>>107492980
nta, but I kinda wish I had the money to buy 7900 xtx while they are so cheap, with 48vram I could do some fun stuff with AI
I don't have it so I'll be content with my 9070 xt tho

>>107493020
2x 7900 xtxs*

this is a fantastic interview about the ram business, this guy knows a lot, usually broken silicon is awful, but this one is worth listening to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxTj5xcd1-Y

>>107493020
nvidiots will never understand linux + AMD

>>107492169
Forever

NAS hdd for desktop pc storage?
thinking a refurbished ironwolf (5 year warranty) instead of normie barracuda

>>107491756
>>107491871
>>107491927
I never knew this! So its possible to use some adapter to install another SSD there? I did this plenty on many different boards, but these had normal nvme slots, not one under the shield + vertical mount. But physically should be the same, no?

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>>107493043
>6090 DELAYED DUE TO RAM SHORTAGES?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I BANED ON WAITMAXXING
AAAAAAAAAH

>>107493064
just make sure the drives are CMR and they will be good

im so fucking tired, bros

>>107493106
try doing something that doesnt require ram
like read manga or watch animes

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>>107493065
>>107493065
you need an adapter. it also only shares like 1 or 2 lanes probably. you also can probably not boot from it.

>>107493117
i would just get a pcie adapter for an extra nvme honestly.

>>107493113
>reading manga and watching anime doesn't require ram
bro, 2 chrome tabs take like 90% of my 16 gigs of ddr4 ram

>>107492309
no issues on my machine
pacman -Q linux-firmware-amdgpu
linux-firmware-amdgpu 20251125-2

How much is 16gb DDr5 rams now?

>>107493163
too much, and not worth the price

>>107493144
buy 2nd hand ddr4 ram that can be added to your existing ram while you can

>>107493175
>that can be added to your existing ram
idk shit about PCs, but isn't having 4 sticks of ram bad for the mobo?

I need some advice about which ones to get (this is a bundle)
>Ryzen 7 5700X, RTX 5060Ti
>Ryzen 5 7600X, RTX 4060Ti 8GB
>Core i5 14400F RTX 5060Ti
They all cost roughly the same, i5 is the cheapest and R7 is the most expensive
I am planning to use this for training and gaming so GPU matters, but CPU also must not be bad since I will do regular development too. What do you recommend?

>>107493198
I havent done it myself but if the mobo has 4 slots I assume it can use the 4 slots of ram
otherwise it'd have 2 slots

>>107491797
you're clearly too dumb to invest in crypto, thats for psychopathic scammers who monitor the big wallets.
Just stick to JEPQ type stocks and make money via etfs.

>>107493202
they're all bad, but i suppose the intel one isn't dogshit awful. I've never bought a pc component bundle in my life and im not starting now.

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This RAM shortage is why I dont fall for being "sensible"
>ddr4: juat get 16gb bro
bought 32gb
>ddr5: just get 32gb
bought 96gb
Of course I'm the retard because I bought slower kits to offset the cost of the capacity increase.

>>107493202
7600x and see if you can sell off the 4060 for something more powerful down the line, thing's a good jumping off platform since it's on am5

>>107493043
>the memory boomer is speaking through a fucking laptop mic
fuck why don't these phaggots have better gear

>>107493202
>Ryzen 7 5700X, RTX 5060Ti
that's literally what I got. installed both yesterday and so far it's been a smooth ride

>>107493258
I bought 16gb
it didnt cause me problems
Then I bought 32gb because I upgraded my cpu, I doubt its gonna be problematic outside of local llms

>>107493258
I shilled 64 as a minimum for anyone but poorfag builds
128gb during the dip was 180€
390€ recently if you did not wanna run 4 sticks but 2

96 6000c30 binned kits are a bit more sure
6000c28 c26 and so on sure

16gb was not even the performance option in ddr4 32gb even oc phaggots was running

How do I replace my GPU? I'm so fucking scared of doing something wrong.

>>107493278
boomers have years of experience hearing through shitty phone lines, they have trained their ears for maximum efficiency so they don't need fancy zoomer tech for soft untrained ears

>>107493311
>Pull out old one
>Put in new one
Difficult stuff.

>>107493311
watch a video

>>107493311
unscrew back side, unplug power, pull out

>>107493318
you would think if you are a boomer wagie that sits in zoom meetings all day you would get a premium mic from your fucking 500k/y tech slop job

>>107493311
well you unplug the power cable
then you need to diddle the lever that locks into place when the gpu is inserted
if you cant reach it because the cpu cooler is blocking the way I guess you can damage the mobo by trying to use a screwdriver

>>107493327
>>107493334
>>107493335
>>107493338
My old GPU is a 6600 and my new one is a 9060, do they use the same power cable to connect to the PSU or is it a different one? So I just insert and that’s it? Will it work fine? Is there any risk of me fucking up something in the process?

>>107493379
if you're a troglodyte you can ruin the entire computer

>>107493379
If you insert a more powerful GPU in a too low voltage PCIe then the GPU will be constantly underclocked and it may short circuit and die faster.
But the real problem is if your PCIe is too powerful, too high voltage. Then you can burn your whole house down. So watch out for that

>>107493379
the power cable connection is the same
sure you can damage the new gpu by inserting it wrong and using force, so you want to double check its actually in the hole before you put your weight on it

>>107493379
probably both use a 8 pin pcie power connector
just don't force anything like a fucking chimpanzee and you'll be fine

>disconnect power cable
>unscrew old gpu bracket
>press pcie release
>lift out old card
>insert new card
>make sure pcie connector latches
>screw in
>connect power
done

>>107493379
bro the gpu comes with a manual. read it.

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I COULD use the money I've been saving to buy a motorcycle... or....

is it adhd to buy 2 phones just so you can doomscroll while watching a stream at the same time? because viewing a thing in a small window and trying to multitask on one phone is kinda retarded
unless you got a samsung fold phone with double size screens
also considering prices of budget phones gonna get cucked now
considering consooming

>>107493435
>one thing will kill you
>other thing you will...
do exactly what with? you earn money with that shit?

>>107493435
unless you use the vram to produce something you sell its not a great investment
eventually theres gonna be next gpus aimed at gamers

>>107493435
there is a reason why there are no sim racing setups for motorcycles. it's because it's cheaper to ride a motorsycle in real life. think about that.

>>107493251
I could also get 5070 Ti with 16GB VRAM and R7 7800X3D. But this one costs almost twice as much

>4tb ssd in my cart jumped up another $20
aaaaaaAAAAAA
EVEN I DO IT ODD I DON'T

>>107493479
Do it you pussy.

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>>107493278
>>107493318
The boomer will never give a shit
optimization means nothing
even when it comes to pcs, they'll either go for a $20,000 Threadripper Pro with 1TB ram or a dell best buy prebuilt

>>107493479
>he waitfagged

thinking about licking some ram to sell later
retarded idea?

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>>107493586
it would probably be worth more if you didn't lick it

>>107493586
why would you lick ram?

>>107493586
licking it could cause damage, but if you give it time to dry it will probably be fine

is there a downside to keeping your gpu fans on all the time at 30%? my ssd sits right below the gpu and gets to 67 degrees without the fans on

>>107493258
every day in here there's another sucker that regrets not joining the 1000W PSU futureproofing godkings and then worry about if their 650W "smart purchase" can handle a new GPU

>>107493601
>>107493604
>>107493608
I mean that I'm gonna legally get some and sell them for 100% profit

There is no need to be scared of computers. You guys should have been taking these things apart since childhood already. There must be computers everywhere these days.

>>107493620
>1000W PSU
>futureproofing
rumao
1000W is bare minimum for a 5090
if you aren't at 1500W you are ngmi

>>107493453
eh well u want some good shit u gotta pay

>>107493435
I hope you bought that direct from a manufacturer, Wendell had some interesting things about how driver updates work for pro cards...

https://youtu.be/Bg_gJ4zNGPE?t=397

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oled shitlist update
Samsung non tizen driven oled monitors (like G81SF) might have forced refresh, in which they will be added to the shit list

going off a single comment left on a review page

if real this is bad, on top of a matte coating + breaking power/navi button + forced pixel shift

be wary of budget oled monitors

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>>107490961
>no nas
What's your excuse?

>>107493635
It is not 100%, it all depends on geopolitics.
>Right now USA and China have calmed down, but will USA one day just decide to slap tariffs on Chinese electronics again?
>Will the US government keep pumping the AI bubble or withdraw funding and make it pop?
>Will there be another global catastrophe destroying the supply chains?
Since catastrophe is unlikely, it all comes down to whether you think Trump is done with his trade war or is he only starting, and how well Trump and Altman get along. Because without tariffs the supply chains will recover relatively quickly and if US gov stops pumping the AI bubble half of AI companies will literally go bankrupt and dump all of their shit on the market to pay off the debts, and that scenario is very damaging to you, since you could lose ~50% or even more of your money.

>>107493691
>all that hardware for a files folder

>>107493691
what's a nas

>>107493691
local storage is enough
I use my server for virtualization purposes

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>>107493691
my nas. with both disks spun down it's at 16W.

>>107493618
turn on aspm in the bios and in windows

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>>107493043
I should have buyed the PS5 Pro during bf now... it's over
I'm gonna be left out playing GoySlopAuto6 on release

>>107493691
>need to buy 2 new 24TB drives
>would've cost me £600 but I waited now it'll cost me £800
waitfags lose again

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>was planning on spending under 150€ on a motherboard
>spent 250€ even though i don't need it
Im such a happy consoomer cattle goy

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I'M GETTING DESERATE HERE

GIMME A REASON NOT TO

I CAN'T THINK OF A REASON NOT TO

>>107493901
>graphics card

>>107493901
Why isn't this on the /pcbg/ list?

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>>107493043
>unlikely things are this bad mid 27
>just wait 1,5 years bro

>>107493691
>>107493710
what specs?

>>107493635
its called "flipping" retard, and you missed the boat on that.

What's a good brand of HDD for video/media storage? Wd black? Seagate?

>>107494032
whichever external is on sale

>>107494041
Cool thanks, saving up for a 7900xtx too. Is it worth it l?

>>107494073
probably better to get a 9070/xt

>>107494111
Hmm, yeah 24 GB seems overkill

>>107493691
What do you do with it?

Do you actually use the GPU you buy though? If it's not a +200-285% improvement what is the point? Why spend thousands?

>>107493695
that's true if I spent money
>>107494012
stupid fuck

How do you guys decorate your PC cases?

>>107494249
with nothing, it's all black and has no rgb, also no glass panel

>fury beast 64GB DDR5 (2x32GB) CL36 5200 MHz
is there any wrong with this brand or the subspecs on this ram?
I was just checking local stores in my area and this one was significantly cheaper (like less than half) compared to other 64GB DDR5. Its pretty much the price of a 32GB DDR5.
Even in this market if a 'deal' is too good to be true it probably so I want to double check before I buy

>>107494268
get what you can that's

>>107494249
i don't

>>107494249
I don't I just pat it on its head and tell it what a good PC it is

and rub it

and gently caress it

How hard can I goon with a 5070ti and AI?

I really don't want to spend money on a new GPU right now to be honest, it's only been 4 years since I got my 3060 Ti.

>>107494311
16gb vram is enough for image gen, it's just not enough for chatbots

9070XT is at its lowest price it's ever been in retail in my country: $1000 (one thousand usd) for nitro, ~$950 for shit brands like gigabyte or acer. Next day shipping, 2 week return, 3 year warranty, all that shit.
Or I can hire a smuggler and get some mystery chinese SKU for a total of $800 up front, no warranty or support and at least a month wait.

>>107494311
Not as much as a 3090 but it will be quite faster as long as it all fits within the memory buffer

>>107494362
what country

have waitfags ever won before?

>>107494362
how to smuggle

>>107494268
I'm curious too does the other specs of RAM mean anything important. I just know its recommended CL30 and 6000+ but how much does that make a difference, especially now when supply and prices are fucked

>>107494268
it might be good if you get hynix

Okay i got hynix a-die
now what

>>107494391
https://www.patreon.com/posts/low-effort-rank-77403831

>>107494371
>>107494381
Russia

>>107494268
don't know much about specs as far as ram is concerned but kingston's always been cheaper than other brands for some reason, even now with the hikes. can personally vouch for their shit though been running on their ram and ssds for 8 years now

At least RAM driving the prices to the moon in the next few years will mean that with less PC building, the price of monitors and peripherals will be the lowest ever. Right? haha....

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Are workstation laptops actually viable for work?
Do ws laptops age or break as quickly as gaming latops? They actually seem cheaper than Chinese minipcs.

I need 2 devices:
a small portable device that I can carry with me with a touch screen,
and one for being turned on for the most of the day, torturing it with animation in 2d and 3d, while I code in a vm, and hopefully to get into ai over holidays.l, but still relatively not as powerful as most "ga"ymer" builds.

Would adding a 75w gpu to old i5 even make sense? The gpu itself costs half of a ws with a4000 8gb and 32gb ddr5.

are the Tcl mini led monitors good? I can't find any professional reviews on it and it's my only 4k mini led option here in europe

we can put pcbg in a cryogenic state for 2 years now, but look at the bright side, everything will be cheap in 2028 with all the extra capacity that is being built

give me a cheap ass poverty feel-too-bad-to-ask-mommy-for-anything-more-expensive-for-christmas gpu to snag off of ebay. anything thats remotely better than ryzen 3 4300g's vega 6 igpu.

>>107494488
What's your budget?

Just upgraded my pc to 64gb ram for a cool 3000 smackers, feels good my non poor friends.

whos with me?
can I get a "hell yeah, buy that ram!"

>>107494488
rx 6600

>>107494483
Feels good not to need anything

>>107494380
I kinda won. Went from a 1080ti to a 5070ti and it didn't seem outrageously expensive.

>>107494384
>I'm curious too does the other specs of RAM mean anything important.
It's around a 5-10% difference on AyyMD I believe. Noticable but not worth getting jew'd.

this ram oc stuff looks complicated and tedious

msi has this thing memory try it

i'm gonna try it

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Welp… the charge finally hit on my card… should I be worried?

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>>107494476
first rule of oled club, do NOT buy miniled

>>107494607
you went 5090 didn't you
DIDN'T YOU

Which is the best value upgrade as a 3060 Ti user?
>RTX 5070 ($600-$630 on average)
>RTX 3090 (<$680 on average)
>RTX 5070 Ti (<$830 on average)
>RTX 4080 ($830-$900 on average)
My primary usecase is 3dfagging with raytracing/optix denoising, video editing, and occasionally casual prompting, along with casual some Minecraft with shaders and path traced games.

>>107494552
I went from a 1070ti to 5070 ti as well, it required a whole new rebuild… i’m sure if I bit the bullet 3-5 months ago, I would have had a 5080 instead and be cheaper or within $200 my final spend.

we can just make more ram

>eat the extra cost and buy toward building an AM5
>puss out and just settle for AM4 and hope prices calm down in 3-5 years
wat do?

>>107494592
don't they literally have an option called lucky mode lmao
hope you get lucky bro
if not you can come back here and ask nicely

>>107494645
RT means 5070TI is the only choice on that list.

>>107494648
But we can’t, we’re literallt GAPPED by ASML. Those EUV machines aren’t allowed to be sent to China and chinks bought one but bricked it.

>>107494661
doesnt the 4080 beat the 5070 ti in RT?

>>107494647
I just decided to go with a prebuilt cause this time I couldn't be assed with a full rebuild. I did my own build with the gtx 580 and the 1080ti so I've had my fun. I also paid $2600 for the build with a 5070ti and 7800 x3d and my friend paid like $3100 for his 3080 build a year or two ago so I don't feel bad at all.

>>107494663
>and chinks bought one but bricked it.
oh yeah I remember that kek didn't they phone them up asking for help

>>107494653
You ever heard of the story about the man who buys a nice pair of leather boots vs the guy who buys the cheap one. Longtail wise you’ll end up saving more if you go for the more expensive one and if we aren’t getting generational leaps even more so.

>>107494676
I’m the opposite, I went built route after using pre-built my entire life. I got pisseed at the quality of a $2k PC. Fuckers cheaped out on the case, the aio, the power supply and the mother board.

>>107494653
if you arenet mentally retarded and building ddr4 you buy 14900k
else you can go am5 which will be as good as a 14900k

Is it just me or is pc building a millenial and gen x hobby. Don’t really see zoomers getting into it, even though they want the end result.

>>107494700
Yea I can see that happening. I did a lot of research on prebuilts and ended up with the one I got. I can't lie, it's better than anything I've ever made myself, especially the cable management. I'm happy with it.

Im interested in a smallish 16 gb vydia card for AI stuff primarily (gaymen second)

Is 5060 ti 16 gb gigabyte windforce oc good in this context ?

How are the ergonomics, is it hot and whines ?

Planning to cram it in to a SFF case with a BD795i SE because I still have 32 gb sodimm in a bunch of mini pcs that i used for other calculations

What brand is the best for SFF and running quiet ?
I know thats probably mutually exclusive but there must be some middle ground in there

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what is (Your) strategy in affording pc hardware? I'm honestly considering just stopping eating (slavegruelmaxxing)
you can easily save a ton of money
but getting a part time job will easily beat that though

>>107494726
You're talking about a gen that doesn't even know what a file system is. Given that they buy less video games as well I'd believe they don't have the money for it either.

>cheapest I can find locally is 32 gigs of ram for a little over $500 cad
do I just rip the bandaid off now so its not a bigger even more painful bandaid in a year or two?
worst case scenario I can just sell it on ebay for at least what I paid if the shortage gets even worse and I don't end up using it right?

>>107494752
>strategy in affording pc hardware
borrow spare/excessive parts from work

Can you guys tell me if this PSU is good for this set up?

ryzen 5 7600x
Gigabyte GeForce RTX 5070 Ti Windforce OC SFF 16GB GDDR7 (GV-N507TWF3OC-16GD)
Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
SN850X 2tb
MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750W (306-7ZP8B11-CE0)
Lian Li LANCOOL 207 Black
MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI

Also is this CPU good for 1080/1440p gaming?

>>107494790
>work
I would have money

>>107494794
it's fine

>>107494794
>RTX 5070 Ti
Overkill and extremely expensive. For that price you could get TWO RTX 5060 16GB and double your VRAM to 32GB ...
But if you play very demanding games and want very fast local model answers then this will help.

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Is the price finally plateauing or is that cope?

>>107494794
also partpicker says this:
>Disclaimer: Some physical constraints are not checked, such as RAM clearance with CPU Coolers.

Should I be worried? How can I check if it will fit?

>>107492309
unmask 6.18 lts you knucklehead. 6.12 was the very first kernel with 9070 xt support

>>107494810
>>107494812
Yea it's for games, blender and local LLM but I get some RAM disclaimer >>107494837
Ram is located on qlv list for this mobo

>>107494812
Duel gpus aren’t even a thing anymore. You want to go as high as you can nowadays.

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>>107494837
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/patriot-viper-venom-rgb-ddr5-6200-c40-review
>Overall, the memory modules look pretty cool without being overly tall. On the other hand, they measure 43mm (1.69 inches), so they don't precisely fall into the low-profile category, either.

check specs of ram height and cooler clearance if using an aircooler

>>107494903
Why do people get these instead of an AIO?

>>107494510
I'm seeing $180 used on ebay, which isn't nearly cheap enough for what it is
2060 Super is better for cheaper

>>107494913
no pump noise no maintenance no liquid no expiry date

>>107494888
>Duel gpus aren’t even a thing anymore
wtf? of course they are. Do you think ChatGPT or Gemini run on a single super-powerful GPU ..?

>>107494942
Meant for gaming. SLI is old tech.

>>107494957
nvidia is a weird company, they killed SLI meaning people won't buy two gaming cards anymore, yet brought back PhysX after killing it for no reason

>>107494981
SLI and CF were fundamentally flawed for gaming, microstutter

Is there any risk of AIO's leaking water? I've always used air coolers cause I've been afraid of that happening.

are the old ass SATA SSDs not a thing anymore, or not as commonly used?
everything is NVME now which didn't exist in my last build. just want to know if my old drives can be used (even as extra SSD/storage) in a new build

corporate ram thefts are gonna be wild in 2026
they'll use this to force everyone into cloud computing

>>107495018
New boards have SATA

>>107494981
>>107494957
Imagine functioning SLI 5090s.

>>107495018
you can still connect them most boards have 2-4 sata ports
but yes m.2 NVME is the primary standard now
as for Sata SSDs Samsung at the last ones making a quality one, all the others are mystery meat temu tier slop

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I should have bought a pc when I had the chance
I will never be a console cuck anyway, just seems like such a waste
it's all over

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Should I start buying SATA drives to stock up? Are they much cheaper now since everyone is piling on the NVME meme?

>>107494752
debtmaxxing
it's the cure to waitfaggotry

>>107495051
No.

>>107495051
>Are they much cheaper now
lol no
if anything nvme's are cheaper now

DDR6 will make this ram all useless do not overspend

>>107495082
>bull case: we get a MNc/venture capitalist that will step in and pick up the demand from the consumer
>bear case: all stock gets bought out by A.I companies.


Consumers will literally be stuck on DDR4 and DDR5 for at least 3 years.

>>107495082
>He thinks anyone will bother selling it to consumers
Good one, anon.

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>>107495082
How many years till DDR6? And do you remember how much DDR5 cost when it debut? I do and it was more than current prices.

How do you guys solve your long-term cold storage needs? Internal HDD with an encolsure?

Thinking of picking up 16tb worth to clear out photos and vids.

>>107495139
>How many years till DDR6?
People were predicting 24/25 kek so nobody knows. Probably will get delayed to 27 and be available to the AI companies first.

>>107490994
this is by far the gayest trend in PC building

are there any discount/promo codes for a 5090 on newegg?

That pod has been interesting
I guess they're right, Kingston has really replaced Crucial a lot in the consumer ssd world
Crucial's loss is just their gain

The memory price increases sucks but if it's locking you out of the hobby you're probably too poor for it anyways

So if you're swapping a GPU, all you need to do is uninstall the current drivers, turn off the PC and PSU, unplug shit, and then swap?

>>107495295
Sure. You can skip the driver stuff if your new gpu is newer than the old one.

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I WANT A MSI X870E Godlike! Please talk me out of it.

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>>107495323
GET THE BIOSTAR INSTEAD

THEY'RE WITH THE BIG BOYS NOW

>>107495323
>MSI X870E Godlike
You probably don't need it, why do you want it?

>>107495338
Looks cool as hell on installs.

>>107495338
I need 24 110 amp driver mosfets to run a 150W 8-core cpu

>>107495321
Alright, thanks.
So is it just processors that people typically recommend OS reinstalls for?

>>107495364
No. You only need to reinstall the os if you get a virus or something.

>>107495364
Yeah but even then Windows is pretty good about handling CPU swaps, even across Intel/AMD. For GPUs, you can just uninstall it be fine. If you want to avoid any possible issues, just uninstall with DDU in safe mode, and then put your new one in.

>>107495354
i think 12 60 amp power stages are enough to run a x3d cpu with 8 cores

>>107495364
>OS reinstall
No need
at the most windows will seethe that the cpu has changed on first boot then forget about it

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>>107495323
You do not need more

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I'm a 64GB ramlet, How fucked am I?

>>107495061
I already debtmaxxed before so I have no credit
else I would have maybe already been inclined to debtmaxx

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I got 2 tb of ssd and a 500 gb with Ubuntu LTS on it incase my nvidia stuff goes ape on my main drive. How screwed am I for the RAM-pocolypse

>>107495389
even that is overkill

>>107495424
true but even my shit spec b650 board has those. but you really don't want your vrm to overheat. thats like almost just as bad as a bad power supply.

>>107495453
I certainly don't want that however at a certain point it's just wasteful. Check the techspot article to see how many you need to run a 230W ppt 16-core at full load.

>>107495398
its ogre

>>107495495
someone should just design an overkill vrm for a motherboard without heatsinks for pr and also design the worst vrm possible with massive heatsinks that still lets you run a high end cpu.

>>107495336
wtf i didn't even know biostar was still around

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AAAAAA HELP! My GPU is fucking stuck, I can't remove if, I'm so fucking stupid, I knew I'd fuck this up…

>>107495716
Press the black tab behind the first S in Asus on the right side of the motherboard slot.

>>107495398
That's enough for playing games until WW3 breaks out.

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>>107495716
press on that thing. it's made out of two parts and you can even rip them off if you don't like them (like i do).

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>>107495716
you are supposed to press the clip to release
dont snap your gpu or crack your pcie slot lmao

>>107495739
>>107495748
I tried, but it doesn't move.

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>>107495748
do not pull on the gpu

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>>107495762
it's better to break the small plastic piece then to rip your pcie slot

>>107495762
Press on it with your finger. Put the card back in all the way first, you are putting undue stress on the latch binding it.

>>107495762
Fuck, finally, I did it, now I'm scared to insert the new GPU, I'm gonna fuck this up again…

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>>107495789
just put your pc on the ground. it's much easier that way.

Is $88 for a 1TB SATA SSD too much?