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>News & RumorsMemory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027RTX 50 Super, 2026 launch? Potentially cancelled, likely q3 if still being releasedNova Lake 2026Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"AMD FSR "Redstone" Arrives December 10, Exclusive to Radeon RX 9000 SeriesMicron consumer memory (Crucial) is no more>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-suppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviews https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews>Monitor Hunter https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/ >Other helpful LinksMobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PCGerman autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.Pic:>>107493691>>107495716Previous:>>107490961
do you guys feel it's a good time to buy a 5090? i can get one for ~3k usd which seems to be their price in the us right now, so it seems like a reasonable price for my country. with all the memory price hikes incoming, i feel like the next generation of gpus will be a worse deal and this purchase might last me for a long time. i got into running local models lately, i have a 4080 but the 16gb are limiting me
>>107496117Buying a whole PC for one component is retarded
>1TB - $88>2TB - $155>3TB - $360Is it too late in my region?
DRAM EXEC SAYS THINGS WILL BE BETTER BY MID 2027WAITFAGS WE ARE SO BACK
>>107496117Today is always the best day to buy a 5090. That's not true for any other GPU.
>>107496139all dramless ssds btw
>>107496117>a reasonable price$1000 over MSRP>might last me for a long timeNot with that house fire power connector
>>107496137>>107496213i need an atx 3.1 psu for it, right? is it compatible with any case, or do i need a new case? cause if i need a new case, fuck that>>107496234wouldn't it be ok with an atx 3.1 psu?
>>107496243>do i need a new case?Not if you get an FE
>bought panic last week>motherboard and cooling is cheaper nowFuck
Do I panic buy DAM now? Was going to do a whole new build in 2026. I already got a GPU, which is massively bottlenecked by my ancient CPU.
>>107496117Not the best deal but less than 3k. I don't know where you are.
THE DRAM EXEC SAYS IT'S CYCLE AND THE PENDULUM WILL SWING BACKTHE HIGHER THE HIGHS THE LOWER THE LOWSWAITFAGS WE ARE SO BACK
>>107496387Just wait 18 months and we are back..Anyway does the ps5 have any gamesIs it stupid buying it for exclusivesI would buy all my gaymes on PC seems stupid to consolemaxx at this point
this any good? cheapest 5090 currently
>>1074963842350$ in eu during the dip cheapest 5090 I saw now nothing even msrp
>>107496400>>Anyway does the ps5 have any games>Is it stupid buying it for exclusives...>He doesn't knowToday, I will tell him.
>>107496403Look two post up.
>>107496413is $200 extra for an aio worth it?
>>107496403very very ugly card zotac
>>107496403Zotac has most terrible customer support/warranties, also the product quality is mediocre at best
>>107496424No. If the pump shits itself you are fucked. Fans and thermal pads are serviceable.
Sup anons im thinking about building or buying my first desktop pc. Building one costs a little over 1000$ with the parts i choose and buying a prebuild is 900$ but with some older parts but double the ram. Here is the partslist for the prebuild. Cpu:ryzen 5800/5800xCpu fan:beQuiet pure rock pro3MB:Msi b550m pro-vdh wifiRam:16gb 3200 ddr4 corsairGpu:gigabyte rx9060xt 16gbPs:thermaltake gt750wCase:deepcool ch260Im thinking about building something smaller therefore i might get a non X 5800.maybe someone can chyme in with some stats if the x version get to hot for a compact case. The prebuild pc for 900$ has a ryzen 7 5700x 32gb of ram and a rtx3060. The other parts arent named so no further info on them. Let me know what you think
PNY CS900 2TB still worth it at $155?
>>107496471Partslist for the potential build obviously... Sorry
>>107496424No just get an Air cooler, there's no advantage over air.
>>107496471Pre-built looks worse.
Building my first PC. I picked up a Ryzen 7 9800x3d, and I got a deal on two sticks of 6400 cl32 ram. Is that going to be fine? In other words, would I notice any real difference if I switched to cl30?
aside from asus, which cards have actual confirmation that they come with pre applied ptm 7950 or equivalent phase change thermal pad?
>>107496548intel values speed amd values timings
>>107496548You will never know. Just roll with what you have.
>>107496548>would I notice any real difference if I switched to cl30?Real difference? A few percent. Worth the 300% inflated price? Depends if you're a richfag
>>107496578Interesting. So I would see a small difference by switching to a lower latency? Don’t think I can justify the 100 bucks it would cost though. I am pretty new to this, so how much manual configuration will I need to do with tuning the hardware once I have the computer up and running? This isn’t a question just for you but for everyone I guess.
>>107496620>So I would see a small difference by switching to a lower latency?On a test bench yes. In reality no.
>>107496548x3d Ryzen cares much less about RAM speed/timings than non-x3d Ryzen, or even Intel.
crap I posted this in the soon to be dead threadpcbg/ bros with liquid cooling knowledge, plz halp me understand, one of the options for mounting radiator is pic related, i understand that this is not the recommended top mount, just trying to learn (have not assembled anything yet), proposed is Lian Li A3 mesh sided case and Arctic LF Pro III.inb4 use some other cooler, could be any cooler, this is about airflow>in pic related is the board itself getting enough airflow to keep e.g. RAM cool?>what about the back of the GPU, my 5070 has a cutout there and it gets toasty.>what-if for pic related there were not any bottom fans, leaving the GPU to manage it's own cooling?>what-if for pic related i mounted the radiator in a pull config, to bring air in from the radiator and wash over the board, i know it would be warmed air but at lease it's airflow and positive pressure into the area?sorry for so many questions but have not built a system in many years and feel like a /noob/
>>107496679Awesome, thanks for this
But does that 6 year warranty cover your pc if it leaks and fries all your parts? That's what I'm scared of.
>>107496846dunno why the quote disappeared>>107495901
I should've bought 96GB of RAMI fucked up
panic bought an SSD and some DDR5I hope it was a smart investment and I didn't get fucked over by FOMO...
>>107496846this is why I will never trust liquid cooling, even if that's a 0.01% chance of happening fuck that
I'm still mainly using my decade old shitbox even after building a new PC it feels like I'm about to abandon an old friend.
Redstone tomorrow, what are your expectations
>>107497027Discount NVIDIA. Just like AMD's cards.
>>107497027New driver at least. Hopefully they fix the bug with Adrenaline keep randomly closing.
>>107496977I feel the same way about building a new one. This old friend hasn't given out on me after 7 and counting years, how can I let him go?
Is a 7900XT (not XTX) for $500 a good deal? Are there any GPUs around this price that are clearly better buys (new or used)?Don't care about RT or FSR, only raw 1440p performance.
So I have like $2.6k of components/peripherals boxes. Christmas/BD present to myself. Would it be low-class to flex the boxes on christmas? I have not thrown them out yet, i'm just gonna set them nicely on christmas day, snap a pic and post to FB with a smug caption. obviously everything been taken out now and assembled but the boxes are all in good shape.
>>107497027I expect like +5-10% fps performance when raytracing is enabled in games that support it. Nothing major, but it'll certainly help bridge the gap between the 9070xt and the 5070 Ti on windows (for specific titles).The only thing AMD could do that would genuinely excite me is pushing out FSR5.
how long do AIO GPUs usually last? is there anyone here who has one?
>>107497091If you're a grown ass man, then flexing how many gifts (to yourself) you received is beyond pathetic. Take your pic, you cringelord.
I just installed a new GPU (9060 XT) and now the game is looking like pic related. What the fuck? I tried several different settings but they all fail to properly renderize the water I think, even on ultra. Anyone knows what might be causing this? Did I buy a defect GPU?
>>107497129ddu reinstall drivers
>>107497129You're supposed to run DDU in safe mode in between changing cards, even if you're going from one AMD card to another.
>>107497127Life all about the flex bro, I want something like this to show off :)
>>107497129Are there issues with other games?If no, probably driver issues
>>107497096Do you even know what redstone is?>>107497027Either performance is poor on rdna4 or everything just straight up sucks ass.Either way there's going to be no support
>>107497151>only 850wOH NO NO NO
>>107496139Did you just live under a rock for the last 2 months?Why do we have so many retards still acting surprised when even on /v/ people were warning spergs about rising prices?
>>107497125Dude just buy it if you want to. They aren't bad they just offer little in performance and are not very user serviceable. If you want water cooled you should go open loop.
>>107497068For how long do you want to keep that card?Do you play AAA at all?My 7900XT struggles to keep 90fps native @1440p in UE5 garbage.Other than that solid card, but you really are better off with 9070 non-xt for the similar price.FSR4 is actually usable unlike FSR3, but int8 available on RNDA3 looks worse and performance scaling isn't as good.
>>107497141>>107497150>>107497158Dang, I thought swapping the GPUs was enough, now I have to search for all that drivers stuff, Jesus PC gaming is tiresome...
>>107497173>Do you even know what redstone is?Some kind of denoiser that makes gaytracing look less shit on FSR performance?
>>107497188Oh you actually want to play games, we don't do that here
>>107497212Wrong, /g/ is where gamers go to troubleshoot and ask recs for hardware. /v/ is where poors bitch and moan about games they can't afford to play
>>107497239>>Wrong, /g/ is where gamers golol
>>107497239Why does it feel like everyone on /v/ is a brown/poorfag? I swear they are mainly console players.
>>107497250Because that's exactly what it is now, just a bunch of brown third world baiting nonstop to get their (You)s dopamine rush, and I say this as a brown third world man, I have a white man's soul, fucking hate what this site has become because of my people.
>>107497250because the majority of 4chan users are college students and those are usually poor. the remaining users are either working (not poor), or children pretending to be not poor (You)
will the RAM price keep going UP even MORE? or is it just staying high af where it is now
>>107497318>because the majority of 4chan users are college studentsNope. Once you're here, you're here forever.
>>107497151That's a mid-level PC. It's not bad, but... geez, raise the bar on your dreams.
>>107497174NTA but isn’t 850W sufficient for that build? I have essentially the same thing but I have ryzen 7. It BETTER FUCKING WORK after I’m done building it.
>>107497323Yes. Higher and higher. For a couple years.
>>107497367What GPU and what CPU specifically?
>>107497367there are power calculators one google search away
For any anons here with a 7800x3d, what temps do you get at idle? I can't tell if mine is normal or high at 45-50c idle temps.
>>107497367It's more than sufficient ignore the braindead tranny
>>107497379Sapphire RX 9070XT and Ryzen 7 9800x3d
>>107497323It'll go down but not until late 2027 at the earliest. That MLID pod was insightful, put simply the shortage is real, they ar at capacity and to even make the tools to fire up new lines and convert old fabs would take several months minimum. They did say this cycle of ram isn't like other ones. Since nation states are involved in this AI shit, the money and interest won't be drying up any time soon. It's not like metaverse where nobody on earth gave a fuck about it. Guy also said DRAM won't see a true breakthrough until they can 3D stack it like they do with NAND.
>>107497367but what are you gonna do when the hardware RT 10070 XT comes out and it's 600W? Buy another PSU? It'll be your only option.
>>107497398all ryzens are like that at idle, X3D chips even more so, 7000X3D chips even more so
>>107497419I will not buy it and wait for the end times
>>107497406You're fine
>>107497363>mid-level PCi dunno that looks like a 9950X3D box to me unless you mean compared to threadripper shit
>>107497406850w is sufficient, but 1000 watts would be closer to the peak of the efficiency curve of most gold/platinum rated power supplies. You also wanna look fan/sound profiles for PSU's, because some audibly ramp up once you pass a certain wattage, and they have steps. Generally having 50-40% overhead will yield a quiet PSU, both in terms of fan speed and coil whine.
>>107497398It's normal, hotspot at idle is on the IO die.If you really cared you can tweak vSoC, by default motherboard will set it to 1.3V with EXPO enabled, this will also lower idle power draw a little.
>>107497407all this and its not even for real AIjust some meme generative AI shit based on LLMsvery grim
>>107497185Like at least 3 years.Yea I want to play stuff like Elden Ring, Battlefield 6, Baldurs Gate 3, Clair Obscura, etc and I'd want like around 100 fps at 1440p ideally
youtubers make cases look so smallthese things are huge wtf
>>107497129>>107497141>>107497150>>107497158No you dont faggots just delete shader cache fucking retards
>>107497520ddu reinstall drivers
>>107497407>It'll go downlol. Prices won't go down barring a full blown recession or a new manufacturer (China) entering the market. The markets will adapt by making this the new normal pricing for consumer hardware. Think about it, when the AI bubble pops, there's be tons of server farms that could easily be converted for cloud computing. The average joe will own nothing except a screen they can activate with a subscription. Local compute will be a luxury.
>>107497407That guy said ram trucks were being carjacked and the ram stolen out of them in SV in the 90s lol. We're heading back to that if this shit continues.
>>107497429>>107497486Hm interesting thanks. I kept turning up the fan curve but it wasn't really doing anything so I guess I'll just lower it to 30%
>>1074975697000X3D is always designed to boost to 95C anyway no matter what
>>107497582mine didn't get the memo
>>107497511E33 runs like shit, no way to get stable 100FPS without doing potato settings on 7900XT @native 1440p.Stable 80FPS is doable in that game.What CPU do you even have?Elden Ring has 60FPS cap by default but if you unlock it you will be more likely CPU limited than anything else.BG3 is also CPU limited in later parts of the game.I don't know about BF6.
>>107497606>>107497582
>>107497569Proper fan curve is necessary, try setting higher hysteresis so fans don't ramp all the time.Idle temps don't matter that much but having more silent system is nice.
>>107497475This is actually really good to know. I can return for full price and upgrade for minimal costs, so I might just do that. Thanks anon
>>107496060Placed an order for this, looked like they only had one in stock, https://www.zotacstore.com/us/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-solid-sff-oc-1Can’t wait until it arrives.
>>107497688shocked at that price but saw open box so it made sense hope it works out anon
>>107497688>refurbishedBe aware, you might need to relube the fan bearings with fresh semen, as the old semen might have crusted over.
>>107497520What's the difference?
>>107497729Reinstalling drivers will help narrow down if your card is a dud, so just do it.
>>107497694Thanks!>>107497710Hm, thanks for the tip, I’ll search online to see if others had similar issues and how to reapply the lubricant or maybe if replacing the fans will work.
I sincerely pity everyone that is not going #fulllinux over the next few years, Microsoft is going to go all in on spying on users for data gathering as their "edge" on the AI race, it'll be hell. Not that americans aren't already living in hell with palantir spying on you to make sure you understand your masters in Israel own you, but for the rest of the world, linux+amd/intel is the safe future.
>$650 for an SSD and 2 sticks of ramIn a year I'll either feel like a wise person that made a good decision, or a total retardI hope its the former
>>107497757you're already a retard for not having storage and a ddr4 platform that will work forever. you can't get much more retarded unless you voted for donald trump.
>>107497743If all else fails, you can always deshroud and slap on some case fans to the GPU with zipties. I did it to a refurbished 2070super I bought during the coof that had a fan audibly click against the shroud at low rpms. Worked perfectly and I could ramp up the fans way higher than stock, which is usefull for overclocking.
>>107497749I'm glad Microsoft is using my porn preferences to improve AI
>>107497813Based Black queen appreciator
>>107497757Same brother. But if my track record is anything to go off, you’re probably going to be ushered into the retard containment cage along with my brother and myself.
>>107497610I have 7800x3DThat actually sucks to hear about E33, but I'll take 80 fps if this is still the best card within this price range. I don't really think 9070XT or 5070Ti are worth the price jump.
>>107497825do those bottom fans do anything?Looks like an interesting case
I literally can't tell the difference between 60 fps and 120 fps... what the fuck is the difference?
>>107497888you might be a bit slow or just not paying attention
>>107497888you may be a hylicnothing to be ashamed of, of course. Just letting you know.
So apparently a 9070 can be flashed with a 9070XT bios to get a whooping 10% performance gain at the cost of merely 60% extra power draw.But is it possible to do the opposite and flash non-XT bios on XT card to go lower than default -30% power limit?
>>107497912prob. either way you gonna need a bios flasher tool and if you fuck it up you can just go back. there are also people modding bios files so you might not even need to flash a non xt bios on a xt card.
>>107497888it really depends on the game you're playingin triple a slop I don't see ANY difference in 60 to 120 fps because the games are made to be "pretty" and have so much shit going on on the screen at the same time that is really hard to focus on stuff and really notice the refresh differencenow playing dota 2 I can tell the difference between playing at 120, 180 or 240 because I'm so focused on the tiny details I can see the delay in miliseconds
>>107496963Buying RAM at this stage isn't even FOMO its panic, unless you somehow snag a very good deal for an old price. Just have to accept that you fucked up this gen and sit tight for the next 2-3-4 years. NVMes depend on the state of your market, if you could get 2tb of premium NVMe for 150$~ you did good.
>>107497912I was uniroincally considering doing that but I bought a card that doesn't have a bios switch so I'll never test it, it's probably for the best anyway
Should i buy an RTX 5080? The 16gb of ram sounds extremely retarded.
>>107497833Then you are set on the CPU front.9070 are available at ~$520 but it depends where you live.5070Ti is worth it if you need nV features.7900XT is getting old at this point, if AMD won't announce FSR4 for RDNA3 tomorrow then it will be even worse deal.
>>107497912...or just use MSI Afterburner and lower your settings
>>1074979395070 ti is better price vs performance.
>>107497957>to go lower than default -30% power limit
>>107497935>sit tight for the next 2-3-4 yearsthat was what I would want to do. When my current PC runs its course I build a new one. But idk when that could be since I've never had one this long. If it stops working in 1.5 or 2 years and I have no choice but to build, and prices are even higher I would absolutely be fucked. Here at least I can get fucked on my own terms and with good intentions (and hopefully by less girth).
>>107497912There is simple solution, underclocking + UV.30% lower power draw usually means around 10% lower performance, after that you hit diminishing returns.On top of that start using framerate limits, ez.
>Solves your rig being too loud issue.Seriously, I put these on and I can't hear shit.
>>107497091yeah its cringe but it feels gooood and also its nice to have a picture of all your new shit lined up>post to FBdiscard everything, I thought I was talking to a human
>>107497323Yes but the price will plateau, its not there yet even if it might look like it. Current spike is mostly emotional speculation and panic purchases it is unpredictable and can fluctuate a lot, once the actual shortage kicks in they will soar further.
>>107497363Bro that not mine, my specs are these.
>>107498038>prime 5000 series>win11 homelike potterywell at least you picked a good cpu/mobo combo
>>107498063I have no use for windows pro, I just use this to play games and shitpost.
>>107498083Fucking kek please don't tell me you actually bought it
>>107498090Why not I had gift cards from work, it subsidized most of my build.
>>107498083mamma miaso this is the kind of retard shitposting about cpu or gpu driver issues
>>107498083home edition is like beta testing for microsoft same goes for pro
>>107497407The markets are not based on logic. One article saying things like>consumer DDR6 delayed into late 2028and DDR5 will stay at 30$+ per GB for the next 3+ years even after (if) the shortage (haven't happened yet and will happen in mid-late 2026) is resolved. I wouldn't be positive about the station at least not until the legislators get involved. It is very clear that NAND/DRAM cartel is screwing the markets intentionally and using AI boom as a cover. If no legislator steps in during the 2026? >Rip in piss will be missed, here lies Free Market and his brother Consumer Market they never scored. Regardless of that shit we won't see summer RAM prices for the next decade at absolute minimum, unless Tiangong Jade RAM palace unlock their Imperial Vault of Heaven and floods the market with green goodness... however shit it might be.
/g/entlemen, I'm in the US, and my budget is open depending on the following two questions:The first one is, with my current build:i5 1040016GB DDR4Asus PRIME Z490PRadeon RX 580 SeriesThermaltake SP-600AH PSUWhat would be the best upgrade if I just wanted to play modern stuff on 1080p at 60fps?If achieving this required a whole new build altogether, then what would be the best AMD 1080p build?Thanks.
>>107498154cheapest x3d cpu, 32gb ram and a new gpu
>>107498154just sell the ram and buy a new pc(wihtout ram of course)
>>107498090>>107498114>>107498120NTA but also retarded, what’s the issue with Microsoft home?
>>107498191Gimped
gayming is for shitters and retards. troon out already.
>>107498200So what do you get?
>>107498209Anything that Microsoft decided is used only in businesses like NFS or Linux sub system for windows
>>107498191basically everything, you cant even control what you do, auto updoots for everything, you name itanyone that values his hardware should at least quickread >>>/g/fwt/
>>107498209less buggy updates, period. the telemetry and forced march cycle is relaxed significantly. we're talking way fewer ads, less obnoxious "tips," and reduced bloatware trying to shill onedrive every five minutes. the system feels lighter, snappier, and yours. it's just a more controlled experience. ltsc is just based.
>Started lurking the thread to get a general feel for the recommendations around a 5070ti/9070xt>Now seriously considering a 5090I’m the perfect consoomer goy for nvidia
>>107497151>Flexing a budget buildKWAB
>>107498288if youre ready to check and/or replace the goy connector weekly then sure why notjust add a lga1700 cpu and a oled screen and you have the perfect sudoku build
I'm currently on a 3700x. I bought a 9700x. I have in my possession 4x16 ddr4 (all same speed and latency), I already had 2x16 and bought another 2 sticks for 64gb. This was only a little more than about ~$100 extra.2x32 ddr 6000mhz cl30. This cost me $430, and was half off what it was selling at the time.I'm contemplating sending the 9700x back and getting a 5900xt and staying on am4 until am6.I was thinking I could upgrade the am5 I'm building with zen7 but I don't know if zen7 will be on am5. And what I'm seeing about ddr6 it looks like it'll be a necessary upgrade. Unlike ddr5 which is for the most part not better than ddr4, and in some cases worse. I don't like paying $430 for ram.
>>107497939No. It has same vram as 5070 ti and only marginally better performance. It's not worth $250 more if you can even get it at 1000, let alone like 300-500 more that it typically sells at.
>>107498288Get one now or not at all. Shits fucked and soon, so will GPU prices. Not that they don't suck enough already.
>>107498278>ltsc is justyou can debloat with freely available tools the retail version of Pro but IDK about Home, it has no group policy editing (though you can supposedly enable), no bitlocker to protect your hoard of futanari, pro has other stuff that is business oriented but the two i note are the only ones i care about
>>107498319>but I don't know if zen7 will be on am5It most likely will be. But if you're fine staying on AM4, just sell the RAM when it looks like it's about to hit its highest price and become rich.
>>107498354yeah but he won't do any of it even on home. it's just a try ltsc and you will see thing. like nothing in the start menu. nothing in the autostart application. no onedrive.
>>107497091No, it's chad as fuck and don't let the misers get you down.
>>107498288If you can afford it then go ahead. Should be good for a long time. otherwise get a 5070 ti, unless all you care about is gaming, then get the 9070 non xt which is almost as good as the XT for cheaper and has much less power consumption, can be overclocked to about XT performance.
>>107498399*and the 9070 XT is as good or better than 5070 ti for gaming
5060 ti good enough for most anything I'd play in the next 5+ years? most stuff would be more CPU bottlenecked than GPU yeah?
>>107498420nvidiots will tell you that the green team has >90% market share for <reasons>>stay with the herd>unless you are /poorfagging/
Anyone have any luck fitting a GPU cooler on an Asrock BC-250? I've got a couple and I've got an Arctic Accelero that I'd like to put on one of them.
>>107497977well it is what it is if you have to build now. If you got good deals you only over payed like 250$ for RAM and cut up to 300$~ on the GPU so its not that bad. I don't see you regretting your purchase for the next 3 years and by that point its already got you its worth.
>>107498445idk
Don't see a mice thread. Any recommendations to replace this? It's been double clicking
Are amd gpu users the trannies of the pc building world?
>AIO is loud as fuck>keeps making gurgling noisesyeah I'm refunding this shit, I don't want it exploding all over my pc
>>107498598>Any recommendations to replace thisAnother one. Don't you wish mice switches were hot swappable like keyboard ones?
>>107498624you're curious huh?>s'ok, anon, we don't judge>here at /pcbg/ we DGAF>also i >>107498515
>>107498598Depends. How much do you want to know about mice?
>>107498643>hot swappabletechnically taking a soldering iron to them and replacing them is "hot swapping">think you meant swappable maybe
>>107498154Drop in a 5060 Ti 16 GB
Not sure if this is the thread to ask but here goes. I got a new SSD a few days ago. 4TB Samsung EVO Plus. It is not recognized in the BIOS or in Disk Management with Windows 10. I flashed the BIOS to the most recent one. I installed the Samsung Magician software. Updated my motherboard's chipset drivers which it is an Asrock B450 Pro4. Still doesn't show anywhere. Am I fucked? What else can I possibly try?
>>107498288>he's not buying at least an rtx pro 6000 blackwelljensen spits on you
>>107498731have you tried unplugging it then plugging it back in?
>>107498731can you test with an external USB adapter?>boot with a live linux USB, does it show up in GPARTED?
Building a SFF micro-ATX PC. I already have most parts. These are the only parts I would like recommendations for:AM5 Micro-ATX motherboardMini-tower caseNot looking to cheap out as I have a good budget and gift cards for Microcenter and Amazon, I just need some recommendations for some high quality cases, and maybe a motherboard which has at least 2 M.2 slots, and a wifi card.
Found 96gb 6600mhz c32 for 460€96gb 7000 c40 for 510€96gb 6000 c36 530€Deal or no deal
>>107498787Closest retailer have these for 1500€
>>107498643I wish they'd just make quality mouse ones Keyboard ones don't all break in a year
>>1074987876600mhz cl32 is a top bin so get thatThe other two are micron rev d and aren't as good>>107498288Can't go wrong with a 5090 since they're disappearing from stores all over and will only get pricier in the coming months
>>107498731research is always a bitch right?You dun goofed buddy Old AMD mobos strike againAsrock strikes again
>Corsair Scimitar broke on me not even a year>I've gone through 3 razer mices due to the double click issue. Logitech pro mouse still going strong after 3 years. How do those germans fucking do it?
>>107498778For cases, I'd look at either Jonsbo like their Jonsplus Z20 or Lian Li's A3-mATXMotherboard, Asus TUF GAMING B850M-PLUS WIFIThere's a lot less variety with micro atx since most sff builders look at ITX stuff, but the ones I listed are pretty solid
>>107496411I do know u have to include PS4 and old games tooNow even bb emulated, DeS only..Ps5 pro will be forced for a year+ because it will be a gta6 only machine, so stupid Damn consoles are so pointless damn
is the 2070 super decent to use for games today currently using a gtx 970 and can get a 2070 super used for $130I only have a 1440p monitor so it would be at that res
I just now remembered and saw again how cheap the pg32ucdmz was during summer too I missed all the dips Summer had cheaper oleds and cheapest ram possible. Now it's all over
I bought an ROG Keris mouse on a whim purely because the white/grey one matched my white/grey keyboard very nicely and it's been serving me well so farHaven't had any double clicking like I do with a lot of the Logitech mice i've had
>>107498880I mean at $130 it'll beat your 970 easy. Shit a couple years back I got a 1660TI for around that and it was a champ until I replaced it.
>>107498874I don't get why /v/ doesn't just go the PC gayming route. I know components are expensive, but you net out on the long tail through software and not having to buy a new rig every 5 years.
Every time I buy something in anticipation of a price hike, the price would dropI'm making a purchase soon to end this trend
>>107498899Most of /v/ are pc gaymers. Or PC + Switch.I think the people buying consoles are offline normies who are looking to play codslop, nba2k, and gta.
>>107498778>>107498872>Jonsplus Z20 or Lian Li's A3-mATXi just went through this, the Jonsbo looks nicer but the Lian Li is more spacious>went with Lian Li for larger AIO support>no glass window for me kthx
>>107498758Not yet but I made sure it was well-seated. I had another nvme drive installed that I had to swap out with it and move to the secondary slot.>>107498774USB adapter for the nvme ssd? I don't have one for that.>>107498861It's a 990 EVO Plus, not a 990 Pro. I did check that page before getting it, was just a limited time deal for Cyber Monday though.
Does GPU help at all if you like to watch KINO?
>>107498938>It's a>>107498861"Unfortunately, most recent PCIe M.2 SSD will also be incompatible"anon posted a pic which answered your question. Maybe you can make it work with a PCIe M.2 adapter but -> might not be bootable that way.
>>107498952i usuall just listen to them. why would i want to watch them? that doesn't make any sense. you don't make any sense. nothing makes sense.
>>107498880Unlikely to be mining card bait. Sure, unless you ever want something better because you'll be down $130.
>>107498938I dunno it's still a 990, I doubt the pinout is that different between the models. Not recognized in bios is very bad you may need that pcie to m.2 adapter. Have you tried another slot? Try the M2_2 slot.
>>107498952even the shittiest modern iGPU can playback 4k "films"
>>107497174>>107497367i am running a 7800x3d + undervolted 5090 on a rm850x. its fine
>>107498952Yes, with jellyfin you can use it to transcode media to different clients, the same with plex if you pay them to use your own hardware. or if you are using mpchc + madvr you can use the gpu for processing. Any igpu should play 4K easily.
some anon bought a prebuilt and they put no heatsink on the ssd, shit was at 90C from just downloading files
>>107498962Well that fucking sucks. Okay then, so I should get a PCIe M.2 adapter? Are there any recommended ones that support two NVMe drives? Surely I'm not completely fucked on this.
>>107498899I haven't owned a console In decades and I don't wanna
>>107499007we had a threadripper system (3990x) with two 3090ti's. the boot ssds was between both of them. exactly after a year it would crap out usually. first read only then no storage at all.
>>107498688nta but I do want to know which micro switch should I get for a little soldiering project once my beloved 10+ years old g102 kicks the bucket.
>>107499007This happened to my brotherThe gen4 SSD didn't last for 2 years, even while running at gen3 speeds the entire time
>>107498859>6600mhz cl32 is a top bin so get thatIt's still buyable.. delivery time is months away thoMaybe resell if I don't be building in summer The same price in other retailers is 1800€ currently actually hahaThere is no better bin memory than this right seems about the topThere is no better 2x64 kits?These kits were still 460€ 1-2 years agoBrootal
I'm probably gonna replace my sata ssds with nvmes. I thought I wouldn't mind the speeds of it, but I really really do. I never thought I'd turn into such a speeds and sneeds snob.
What do you guys think of white cases with black parts?
>>1074990662x64gb kits run much looser timings than 2x48gb Hynix M-die since all the available ones are from Samsung and micronHynix 32gbit m-die was just about to come to market before this price hike so we have no info about how those would clock
>>107499014>I should get ayep. whatever you get make sure you can return it if it's no good for your board.>know that booting from an adapter is very much on the motherboard for support, check your owners manual>i use HP Z Turbo drive adapters but it's because my old box is an HP workstation (and it supports booting from NVME)
>>107499021it was like one of those and i would regularly send it back for it to get replaced by another one that would break in about a year. (they gave per part warranty)
>>107499101don't like them white cases need all white parts
>>107499101mixed black and white can work. But it's personal taste.
>>107499101just get one without a window. also it's like asking if black wheels look good on cars. no they do not. you lose all the detail.
>>107496403AIO GPU is never a good idea.
>>107497825Where can I buy those?
>>107499156>AIO everlike who wants water inside his pc? >>107499166chink shit general
>>107499007what makes nvmes heat up, anyway? this cheap shit kingston nv3 i got 2 years ago now sits right above a 9070 xt and still only hits 40c at most
>>107499034>g102you should get a new mouse niggaIf you for some reason insist on that mouse, buy a replacement hot swap PCB.I used huano blue transparent shell pink dots on my last mouse repair.>>107498643They are, if you buy a hot swap PCB. A few mice have them.
>>107497151>32gb of ramrorrumao
>>107499209writes mostly.
>>107499211>you should get a new mouse niggano>hit swap PCB>huano blue transparent shell pink dotsdon't like the idea, thanks for something I guess. guess I will just have to look into the whole microswtich thing myself.
>>107499283the mouse is $20 you destitute poorfag, just buy another one
Getting a job would save me and redeem me from all my failures to buy the dips Maybe I should get a job (extra)Laying out money and waiting months for Amazon to ship magic ram is like giving them a loan though God damnit
>>107499301>destitute poorfag>>107499283>look intoyou'll prolly end up with a new soldering iron, solder, solder sucker, microswitches, a dead old mouse, and a shiny new mouse all for the low cost of thrice what just buying a new one would cost
>>107499301its not the same, new g102s are poop, I dunno what they did but they are all poop. POOOP SHIT GARBAGE AOLJUASUFLHAES FLHAEso I vill not buy a turd skinwalking as my beloved, its't not about money I'd pay like 300$+ for the mouse that I got for 19$ 10~ years ago but can't they no longer exist.
>>107499101Black and white mixing is never good
>>107499209>>107499246and reads (a bit less). like both have the same passive cooler. i like only transferred 300gb via video games. between those two drives.
48GB 6400CL32 for $370 or 48GB 7600CL38 for $385?Both Hynix M-die.
>>107499373amd or intel?
>>107499329>implyingI have a soldering iron, solder, cleaning equipment and soldering experience, been manually refurbishing headphones since I was like 14. if I can't get myself a microswitch for 3$ from chinks it is always possible to find it on the IRL e-garbage markets for the same price or hell, free. It will take more time but its doable and this has been torturing me long enough.
>>107499373They're probably the same. 7600c38 might be worse for failing 8000cl38 1.4v testing while 6400cl32 simply wasn't tested for higher speeds and has more quality variation
>>107499375Oh I'm dumb. AMD, X3D system.
>>107499395i don't think you are going to be running 7600 unless you want to downclock it to 6000mhz and try your luck with timings
>>107499406The 7600 kit has a secondary profile that's 6000CL30 at 1.25v. Not sure if that makes a difference.
>>107499417that kinda makes it more interesting. i would then get the 7600 kit .
>>107499341i know that feel, over the years i kept buying Logitech M705s and each one was more enshittified than the last.
>>107499434since it's probably higher binned
>>107499417That's the better kit then7600cl38 is also just fast enough to make it worth running gear 2 on Ryzen so you could choose between either profiles
>>107499442Yup, one taste of new g102 made me vomit and go on a few weeks long rage spree and that was 5 years ago when I wanted to get like 10 of them to have a forever stash. Not the same even if it looks like it. Gets me mad even thinking about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfv0V1SxbNA
>>107499485
>>107498865we are currently working on matching everyone else :^)
I'm going to Taiwan on a business trip, is there any parts I should be picking up while i'm there?
>>107499146Get a case without window and it doesn't matter at all.
>>107497992You can connect airpods to a non apple pc?
>>107499556if you can get DDR5 cl30 6000 below or at 20$ per GB buy as much as they will allow you to take out of the country, sell a kidney if you have to. generational wealth the moment you sell
>>107499575always have my dude, although when I had a mac for work. They worked flawlessly.
>>107499644Maybe I'll try it someday. Although I can't use in ears long term cause if I do sometimes I get pimples inside my ear which are insanely painful
>holding up with a Ryzen 1700 from 8.5 years ago>was thinking of upgrading to AM5 earlier this year>decided to wait™ for Zen 6 because fuck it current build does everything I want despite its age>now RAM prices are pants on head retardedGod I feel stupid, I might just buy a dirt cheap 5700x and stay on AM4 for a couple more years just out of spite for myself.
Remember to add a ram fan for maximum performance
>>107500217ram is just fine
>>107500217a RAM fan won't turn you 8gb stick into 32gb no matter how good it is
Are there legit local computer shops you can bring accumulated parts and they'll throw it together proper and without fucking anything up?Now that I'm getting nearer to actual assembly I'm scared I'll snap my RAM or fuck a CPU pin and it'll be more over than ever
>>107500335even under unrealistic stress tests
>>107500516Run your air-cooled GPU at full load and it will heat up even further
>>107500485You're stressing yourself out, there's no rush to assembling, go at your own pace. You wont break anything.
Guys… I fucked up, I bought a 5080 and a ryzen 9800x3D for fucking nothing. I cloud game on the steam deck and i’m getting fucking capped at 60 fps…What the fuck. What do I even do here??!?!
>>107500691u have somethin stronger for when u need it whats the issue here
Why don't they make mobo SSD slot 2 coolers have a thermal pad interface that connects it to a GPU's heat sink? If its going to be stuck behind the GPU might as well make use of it for cooling.
>>107500733I feel like I wasted more money than I needed to.
Best 4k OLED monitor right now?
>>107500485never trust your parts to a third party especially when there is a shortage and they can make big mulla by duping you. Take your time don't rush and you won't break anything. Its not much harder than operating a smartphone.
all i want in life is a 34 inch, 2k, mini LED IPS monitor but it basically doesn't exist :(
Every time I look at my 3 month old PC, I get hard knowing I bought the best possible setup before the price booming and poor brown waitnigs will never get anything remotely close to my level. God yesss
>>107500785you also wasted your life posting here. could be worse.
>>107500800whatever that isnt old, matte, or comes with a tizen OS
>>107500938its a great feeling isn't it?
Will my 1050ti survive another decade?
>>107501059yes, all the while being roundly mogged by my 1660 ti
>>107501059No [spoiler]because I just stole it from you[/spoiler]
>>107500938>>107501001I stole all my parts so get fucked losers
>>107501059>4GB>about equivalent to a 600-700 series card from 4 years prior (13 years ago now)>decadeWell yes, if all you play is indieslop! Actually can that card even handle higher resolution video without choking?
>>107501220>>107501220>Actually can that card even handle higher resolution video without choking?Of fucking course you elitist scum
How do I undervolt 7800x3d? Set a negative curve in PBO to like -20, set thermal limit to 85 and its gtg? How to test for stability afterwards, Cinebench? Is the undervolting worth it or am I just asking for trouble?
>>107501220>>1075012511050ti is okay for a lot of stuff even nowadays but another decade is really pushing it. Get a 5060 anon, its less than 300 bucks.
>>107501308Undervolting is always worth it, the voltage they give cpus from the factories is usually too high. Too high voltage leads to less thermal headroom for boosting. Drop the voltage and suddenly the cpu performs better and cooler. Start with -10 check for stability initially with cinebench in case your chip is a dud then -15 test, -20 test etc until cinebench doesn't run then back it off 5 or 10 and stress test it. Stress test it with prime95 and occt core cycling to lock it in. If it errors in stress back it off another 5 and go agane.
>>107500892>2kRetard>34 inch on that resGiga retard
>>107501355Do I need to adjust other settings in BIOS to make it work?
>>107501308>>107501377If you are worried about power consumption you might want to also cap your CPU power limits and maybe disable boost.Pic semi-related (also I need to retest it on current bios and windows version, 8.01 is ancient and 7.10 was obviously broken, asrock even deleted it from their archives)
>>107496060How come your mom lets you have two CPUs??
>>107501377Not really unless you want to tinker with pbo limits and core clock override as well. If you want a set and forget turn pbo on and set limits to motherboard and leave scalar on auto.
>>107501059Look I played Cyberpunk 2077 on a 1050ti on medium with fucking fsr and got like 40 fps. So no it's not gonna last you a decade.Get a new 5060 or a 9060xt at least. Or if that's too expensive buy a used 2060 super, 2070, 2070 super or a RX 6600.
>>107501559Like where I live I recently saw a 2060 super and an RX 6600 for 110 euros.
>>107501559nta but is 5060 plenty or should I go for 5060 ti?
>>107501603Only go for 5060ti if you get the 16gb version. Unless the price difference between a 5060 and an 8gb 5060ti is very small.
>3050>196$Should I buy this? Only card available in my place?
If you game below 4k you're a poo
>>107501657Isn't 5050 only like 50 bucks more? Get a used card for 200 if the 5050 is too expensive.
Can I turn off my GPU via BIOS and use my APU? I want to see if my GPU is causing coil whine without opening my case
>>107501676Just don't plug any display into the GPU, coil whine won't happen when card idles at 5W.
>>107501657>>107501671Like the 3050 is shit especially if it's the 6gb version.
>>107501669>4kheh...https://pimax.com/pages/pimax-12k
>>107501669Sorry no can do, I want all the frames.
>>107497181>Did you just live under a rock for the last 2 months?unironically yes
So true black glossy woleds are the peak of monitors right now?
>>107501422My mom is Lisa su
I should buy a drawing tablet instead of pc parts right now
heh, chinks really have everything. I bought picrel on Ali, so I can route my headphone cable out of the back of my case.
Huh, I've been hearing a lot about RAM prices increasing a bit>checksFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>>107502276when the ram is more expensive than your gpu
Bros... why is my superposition score so crappy? Is my CPU really that degraded? Are Studio drivers that slow?
>>107502276a friend asked me a few days ago how much it would cost to build a good computer these days. I just laughed. talk about bad timing.
>>107502283$1499 is more than my GPU and OLED combined
>>107502306the GPU and OLED in question?
>>1075023176800 and C2
>>107502283I remember warning people that RAM will cost like a 5070ti right before Christmas, well look and behold. Peak clownworld shit, there is no shortage of consumer RAM yet we are already approaching true shortage prices.
>>1075022765600 is fine r-right?My seller betrayed me.
>>107502347when will the prices start to go down, seeranon?
>>107502365When AI is finally confirmed a scam. Honestly it gets dumber by the day as it's in some weird feedback loop feeding itself shitty data. It's only a matter of time before people realize.
>>107502365Down? lol. The true shortage is expected to hit q2-q3 2026 and from that point it should last through the entirety of 2027, getting mostly resolved by q3-q4 of 2028 unless they are being genuine malicious and not just greedy, by the way this does not mean that the prices will go down. The only party that can resolve it earlier and actually force the price drop is ChYna in a white swan event as they flood the market with cheap green RAM.You won't see October prices in the next 5~ years.
>>107502399That is not going to happen. AI cannot bust because it is connected directly to the money printer. There will be no "AI bubble pop" before there is a "USA pop" and that won't happen in the foreseeable future.
>>107502291> gpu utilization 99%Looks like a GPU-heavy benchmark, your CPU probs isn't to blame.
>>107501913mommy Lisa~
>>107502439And the reason why it's connected is because they want the money printer to believe in AGI arms race versus China, so popping it would mean admitting geopolitical defeat.
>>107502459And yet people are managing to get an extra 1000 points despite the same GPU, so there must be a difference somewhere
>tfw my family found out about my plan to spend $700 on a GPUit's overthe household-wise aneurysm argument and grudges are inevitable now
>>107502557>family found out do you have a job or did you steal your parents wallet?
>>107502291try DDUit impacted my gpu scores
>>107502557why arent your members supporting your cheap hobbiesis this some 3rd world shithole
>>107502602Yeah, it's called Poland>>107502571My parents are pensioners and I don't have particularly high income, that's about a full months worthThey only suddenly care about it now
>>107502645>My parents are pensioners and I don't have particularly high income, that's about a full months worthmakes sense that ex-commie parents are dirt poor and mad about money usein most of 1st world the elderly parents are actually wealthy and spend 1k on luxury kitchen equipment on impulse
>>107502660Make fun of polandanon all you want, atleast his country is free of niggers and almost no chance of getting robbed.
>>107502669yeah but thats because the migrants skip dirt poor places and instead move onto wealthy nations with higher gibs. why would they ever stay in poland when they can go to germany
not one of you faggots knows about >>107496704 airflow, huh?>useless rabble the lot of you
>>107502679>he still thinks Poland is dirt poorYes, now please avoid our country at all costs. Make sure you tell all your nigger friends how poor Poland is as well.>t. actually average Polish guy with an average income gayming on my 64GB RAM PC with AMD RX 9070 XT and no niggers in a 200km+ radius
>>107502694microatx is rare config so people are better off looking at specific guides for itsince no one builds those systems they dont care about the airflow and it seems like case specific thing where you just need to consult the case manual and recommendations from the case manufacturer
>>107502669>his country is free of niggersWrong, I rode a bus with a negro last night and browns are all doing glovo deliveriesIt's scary and depressing, I was just marvelling that same day in the morning how nice is to relax and feel safe with adults and elders especially grandmas on the bus
3090 or 8TB SSD at the same price
>PC still runs everything I want just fine>Feels obligated to upgrade now or never
>>1075028503090 = generate AI porn8TB SSD = store lots of porn that not you generateThe debate is real.
>>107502660An MRI for the pancreas is worth 800 PLN so for a 2500 pln GPU you can get about 3-4 of those so from their point of view it makes no sense to use more than the same sandy bridge computer forever until it stops working
>>107502860Could the 3090 still make you money though is the question
>>107502871Dunno, let's see what you generate.
>>107502859Literally me rn.We will probably regret this 2 years later on, right?
Will GPUs actually go up in price tho?
>>107502241I have bought one of those as well. Because I have one of those ancient multi function transfer panels from the early 2000s. Basically you had a front panel that had a long ass cable that you put to the pcie slot. And idea was to transfer your rear panel ports to the front.Well I still have one of those but don't want to transfer it internally. Instead I have that cable on the inside of my case. So I bought these to have front panel audio on that thing.
>>107502903Why should they go down then?>GPUs use VRAM>AI needs both GPUs and VRAM>mass panic and mass purchases of bothAny reason for them to go down????
>>107502908
FSR Redstone today
Prices will drop significantly after Christmas, trust me.
>>107502914pretty goofy ngl
>>107502930w-which Christmas??
>>107502935
>>107502919It will be a nothingburger.
>>107502935most likely the christmas of 2027
>>107502945New AMD drivers means Nvidia is falling behind again
>>107497825Anyone knows what case this is?
>>107503012flux pro innit?
>>107503012Antec Flux Pro
>>107503032>>107503034Damn, it's so beautiful compared to my case. Should I spend money on a new case and go through the trouble of reinstalling all my parts even though my current case is good enough? I just don’t find it aesthetically pleasing enough…
>>107500615i don't see it. i know that blower gpus are far worse at this
>>107503087if you're willing to do the work, surei did a case swap in 2023 for my rtx4090 rig and it was worth every penny because of better airflow and aesthetics
>>107503114How long does a case tend to last?
>>107503136
>>107502859>>107502902its already too late. you will be paying x2-x3-x4 for RAM depending on your location which makes it just not worth it. You can still get a banger GPU deal for any price range and just sit on it until prices unfuck themselves. I'd also grab one NVMe just in case, if you can still find a good deal.
should i get a mini-led monitor or is youtube tricking me, my main monitor got fried.
>>107503136I kept my previous case for about 5 years and its been repurposed for a secondary rig and is still in use today. You can keep a case for 10+ years if its glass panel doesn't break
>>107503189Miniled has this distracting halo thing going on in dark scenes especially when HDR is on instead of SDR. It completely goes away the moment you switch to OLED because every pixel is a dimming zone that can turn itself off.
Idk if this is the right thread but does anyone have any good chair recommendations? my shitty ikea chair is so bad (eu)
>>107503241Dauphin has good Office chairs but they are a bit more pricey
>>107502930>>107502935I am hopeful things will normalize by this time next year. I mean GPUs were selling for idiotic figures back in the spring after AMD got gun-shy releasing with the 5000's announced prices. Now there are many models below MSRP. Also by this time next year will have Nova Lake (and the BLLC variants) to battle Zen 6 both on long-planned support sockets that should give some meaningful competition for both motherboards and CPUs. >>107503189>should i get a mini-led monitor or is youtube tricking me, my main monitor got fried.If you need a monitor for static content/productivity and/or don't want to cough up the $430 for an OLED:https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1906746-REG/acer_um_gxxaa_103_predator_x27u_z1bmiiprx_27.htmlThen yes, they are worth it now. The enhanced brightness and contrast improvements from the very-recent uplift in zone counts has really improved my recommendation in this area.For a Mini-LED IPS that's a really solid all-around either get the MSI MAG 274UPDF E16M or KTC M27P6:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JranOxeRXHcFor the best non-OLED contrast at the cost of some black smearing in a Mini-LED VA nothing beats the value of the AOC Q27G40XMN atm:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDOybDnJ9cM
>>107503241>ikeathrow that shit out immediately. even the aliexpress ones are better
>>107503241>Idk if this is the right thread but does anyone have any good chair recommendations? my shitty ikea chair is so bad (eu)Watch this paying attention to the recommendations that fit your budget/sitting height (playback @ 2x if desired):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0MIBe0LTUg
>>107503280>mid tier section is 400-1000grim economy
>>107503241where in the world are you located? will help anons with local recommendatins>i got a Steelcase Leap chair from local used office equipment broker for a couple hundred bucks, works for me
>>107503169Lol, your case isn't lasting 50 years, much less 200 years, my nigga. The power button will stop working by then.
>>107503294Considering that unlike tech, this is REAL ACTUAL furniture. So you can realistically count on it to last ~10-15 years which isn't necessarily that bad amortizing the cost over such a lifespan.
>>107503305just jump start your pc with picrel. it never fails
>>107503315Americans really use a flathead screwdriver for PC building?
>thinkin about fomoing into 96gb ram
>>107503413Better decide fast, a 96gb kit sells for the price of a 5080. Come next year it might hit 5090 pricing once stock dries up.
Is the price of laptops going to increase?
>>107503413>buy high>sell low
>>107503413>thinkin about fomoing out of 128gb ramI can sell half and maybe buy 8TB SSD or a couple 16TB HDDs>>107503440Already did.
>>107503442>buy highYeah, that's so me!
>>1074960603080ti became mid range now? FUCK bros
>>107503448Always has been.
bros will I be okay with 64gb ram in the next 10 years?
>>107503448*90 is high*80 is mid*70 is low
>>107503405He doesn't knows.
>>107503473what is *60 then?
>>107503473>tfw 00Radeonbros not like this...
>>107503468thats my spec for new build )parts incoming), so i hope it's fine
>>107503473Geforce 9800 GT/GTX bros our time is now.
>>107503448Its almost lower than mid when you look how beastly the 5090 is.
>>107503478poverty tier
I have a $25 newegg gift card, what do I spend it on?
>>107503502I'm wondering if I should upgrade to 5090 from 3080ti but then again i don't know if the rest of my current components allow me for such an upgade
>>107503510thermal paste and a fan
>>107503241kab seating executivelet me guess, you need less?
>>107503510for $25 they may let you look at some photos of RAM kits
Do you turn your PC off every night?
>>107503433I find them for 460€ but they are selling in retail stores rn for 1800€>>107503442actually buying for the same price they were from the beginning>>107503444I could have buyedboughted 128gb 390€
>>107503433still does not seem worth in value considering a basic bitch 2x32 6400c32 kit were going for 90€ in summerthis seems like real bad value stillaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaonce you add up all the parts that account for performane you are wasting money for no reason
THIS 3090 IS HOT GOD DAMNI guess that's the price for 24GB, that and your house safety (I would still trust this thing more than a 4090/5090 since at least it uses 8 pins)Well all my 3090 tests passed fine, Furmark, OCCT, Uniengine, card seems and looks in good shape, temps look good vram shows no errorsNow I have to decide whether or not I should pull the trigger and spend another $680 after 4 years to replace my 3060 Ti I bought for the same price stupidly
>>107503537yep, euro electricity prices are insane
>>107503510You can get an Arteck 2.4G wireless keyboard for that. It's the best keyboard in existence imo.
What's the best possible build to be able to watch anime in 4k?
>>107503537not me, i use sleep mode.>also buy a UPS if you worry about power issues.
9060 XT vs 5060 TI, which one is better?
>>107503468For gaming yea unless microjeet manages to totally fuck up windows
>>107503581you need an nvidia gpusomething like a 5070then you need a 4tb nvme ssd to store large files maybe a 9600 cpu, b850 mobomeshify 3 case
>>107503527a comfortable fuckhuge armchair > all this leather shit and its not close.
>>107503588Is that the same as hibernate?
>>107503551>I find them for 460€then buy, flip next week and get yourself a 5090 how is this a question?
>>107503581To just watch media any current cpu with an igpu would do.
1050ti GODs how are we feeling today?
>>107503599>>107503619>contradicting answersSigh.
>>107503627I played 100 hours of Elden Ring on a 1050 mobile, I couldn’t even take screenshots of the game without crashing kek
>>107503522the 12vhpwr connector is a massive pain in the ass if you do get a 5090. since it pulls 600w and pushes the connector to the limit, the slightest nudge on the cable where its connected to the psu disrupts the current balance making it possible to cause melting if you get unlucky and have 1-2 pins carrying most of the load to compensate for the rest of the 4 with poor connections
>>107503537I turn it off for everything that requires me to be away for more than 10 minutes
>>107503642why dont these people just buy new hardwaredid they retire as neets at age 18
>>107503616amazon delivery eta is next summerso depends when they show up
>>107503616I really wonder how good the second hand market (her) is for buying kitsI mean if it gets real bad and people buy whatever, else I don't think anyone will be buying them overpriced or close to 1800€I still need ram thoughbuy several and flip? Lmao
>>107503605>same as hibernateno, sleep is a standby mode where RAM is still powered, wakes up instantly. Hibernate images RAM to disk and powers the system off, when you power up the contents of RAM are restored form the disk and it takes longer.>this is a generic description of the two
>>107503657>next summerokay. if they deliver you can now afford a mortgage AND a 5090
>>107503574Only 369W? You gotta do better
>>107503581>>107503599>>107503619
>>107503655I'm a 30yo NEET leeching off of my aunt's fortune and good will (my mom also leeches off of her and my dad is a bum), life's good. Imma steal some bucks from her to buy a new PC this Xmas.
>>107503710sounds like you should murder suicide your parents
>>107503679how many sticks until I can afford a house though is the real question
>>107503679UH OH the kit I talked about here has been sold out/removed nowthe two other remain for now >>107498787>96gb 7000 c40 for 510€
>>107503685I forgot how similar the 3090 was to a Fermi GPU FuckHearing about the power draw of xx90 GPUs is one thing, seeing it in person for the first time is another
If they made a 24GB 5070 Ti it would have been the perfect sweetspot in terms of efficiencyGet Chinese modders on the job
>>107503648retard here, how do i prevent this? i have 1000w psu
>>107503754my bad, that was my 5090 running the 800W biosthe worst I've seen my 3090 strix go to was 460W and it never quite hits its 480W max for some reason (bouncing off the power limit maybe?)
>>107503574arent 3090s real suspect buys now? ti better?
>>107503754undervolting will result in 30% lower power use for 5-10% less fps
>>1075037611. just install it and hope for the best. most people do this and dont ever want to think about the cable melting or actively calls it user error (its not)2. or power limit / undervolt it so that it only pulls 500W instead of 600W giving you much needed margin so the cable doesnt melt3. or buy an astral 5090 which has per-pin current monitoring to tell you whether your cable needs to be replugged to balance the currents
>could have built a whole new pc>turned into a ram scalper insteadit's all over
What are some things you can do on a computer that uses a lot of RAM? I need to try and avoid doing things that push my ram too hard cause if it breaks I'm screwed.
>>107503849windows 11, 2 tabs in google chrome
WHERETHEFUCKIS THENEWTHREAD,YOU FUCKING MORONS?
>>107503872ask again nicely and then i'll think about doing it
>>107503849You can run an Artificial Indian locally
>>1075038724chan can't afford enough ram for new threads any more.
>>107503737That would depend on the house. when buying 96g at 460€ we are expecting to at least double our investment, potentially triple but its riskier as white chink event can kill us wholesale, securing profit at x2 would be the main priority, once you have at least recouped your investment you can keep the rest for better deal buuuut. This makes math fairly simple, no? Also you should factor in your ability to actually sell the stuff and whatever laws your country might have about it, taxes nshiet. I think flipping one set would be trivial without any effort and pretty low risk if you can somehow get them for October prices.
>>107503872HERE youtube.com/watch?v=Fbz30gJ6THY&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2F
>>107503916amd won
>>1075036421050 Ti laptop is perfectly servicible for both elden ring and nightreign at 720p low 30fpsYes, it is not the best shit ever, but still surprisingly good.My friend managed to get all nightreign achievements on that GPU.
9070 bros, rejoicehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbz30gJ6THY
>>107503916https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpAZF_-qsI8Ruh roh
>>107496060I was thinking of selling my gaming laptop to get a little more cash buy a gaming Desktop. Originally I was going to build my own, but with prices being what they are right now, that doesn't look like an option...Genuinely thinking of buying a prebuilt (especially since some of them are the same price as a ram kit) with a weaker gpu and then slapping a 3080 or 3080ti into it. I heard dual gpu setups are cool again thanks to lossless scaling. Plus, I can swap components out like I'm really building my own pea see!My question is, what cpu should I look for? I've seen people say that the non x3d variants of amd cpus are much cheaper for around the same performance due to their higher clock speeds. Something like the 7700x?UK btw. Budget is under 1k "great" british pounds but its slightly flexible. I think that's 1200 freedom dollars?
>>107503996what the fuckREVOKE THEIR EARLY ACCESS FOREVER
>>107503627not good
>>107503969I played it at 1080p and it wasn't the ti version. It was a miracle it could run the game at all.
>>107504017imagine after shilling amd for years AMD goes and not only cucks RDNA3/RDNA2 out of FSR 4 but then focus on frame gen and pathtracing while these retards have told gamers frame gen and pathtracing is useless kek
>>107503896the nearest retailer is selling them (also out of stock) for 1840€ list price, kekfucking brutal!do I wanna loan amazon money for up to 6-7 months? that is the questiondo I wanna build a system before DDR6 hits? these are the questionsI still should have buyedboughted before this, even close to 500€ for ram is too fucking much for little to no improvementremind me to get a job then I will build a pcand ram will be the tricky part then again maybeI am NOT buying a 32gb kit for 500€
>>107503994surely the 9070 xt now will be faster than the 5060 ti in pathtracing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOg5wjkhJBs
>>107504025>>107504025>>107504025
>>107504066Amazon doesn't charge you until it ships out items. If you're buying ram right now cheaper than elsewhere but it says 6-7 months just hodl.
>>107504117real thread>>107504122fake thread
>>107504127I'd never know I never shop there in euwould be worse for me
>>107504127>buy ddr5 96gb>put it up for trade vs one 5090>do exchange>5090 for 460€find one fault in this plan
>>107504066there is a good chance consumer DDR6 will be delayed well into 2028 if not fucking 2029. >do I wannano you have fucked up and missed the window to build in the current gen, take a fat L slap it to your forehead and wait. If you MUST build well it is what it is.
>>107504198>no you have fucked up and missed the window to build in the current gen, take a fat L slap it to your forehead and wait.but 6090 will be out before we swap over to DDR6 I am assumingthere will be cpu gens dropping before thatwe won't be on ddr6 by 2027
>>107504223It's a terrible idea to be an early adopter for new DDR memory generations; you're paying a premium for the earliest kits.2x 16GB 6000MT/s CL30 or better XMP bins cost well above $400, 32GB 6400MT/s CL32 cost over $500.
>>107504223if you can afford 6090 on launch then RAM prices shouldn't bother you too much if at all and you should just do whatever.
>>107504255this desui remember seeing 6400cl32 2x16gb kits selling out at $500-$700 in the early ddr5 dayseven basic 4800cl40 2x16gb kits were hard to come by and went for $300
>>107504255yeah I know that's why I'm saying we will be on ddr5 for a minute>>107504259but nobody wanna pay 2000€ for ram when 90€ ram would do the same thingor in this case 450€ ramjust because you buy that then does not mean you wanna waste money laterI should have bought the 5090 dip>>107504267>6400cl32 2x16gb kits selling out at $500-$700I should have buydbougted 64gb of those for 90€ during summer after all..
I have an interesting question, I have recently built a new pc (not my first rodeo) using a b550 msi tomahawk max wifi motherboard and a 5800xt cpu. Memory is 32gb corsair vengance and gpu is rx 9070xt. When using any monitoring software like hwinfo or msi afterburner my cpu cores are stuck at 3575mhz and it doesn't show any boosting during gaming. Why would this be the case? I have a peerless assassin 120 se cooler and I haven't seen temps go past 50c during any gaming. I also get very poor scores from cpu-z. Funny thing is, when I enable game boost for the cpu in BIOS the base clocks change to 3600 mhz. I have made sure PBO is enabled and I have my XMP profile enabled but thats the only settings I have changed in the bios.
>>107504296Check chipset driver updates and Windows power plan settings.
>>107504287my guy if you have unlimited budget and the ability to get 96gb of DDR5 for 460€ in the middle of the fucking RAMcalypse you just buy immediately and close the issue for the next 5 years. What is there to think about?
>>107504296update the mobo
>>107504341>if you have unlimited budgetI don'tbut maybe I wanna build in the near future maybe I wanna scalpmaybe things will get even worseall in all I should have buyedboughted beforeI also should have bought ssds which is the next anxiety factor.....also GPUs soon I guess, but I don't need a gpu to build a system and get it up and running while you wait for a gpu, just use igpu so that's lesser of a issue
>>107504361>>107504315I have bios up to date for when I built it (September) and power plan is set to performance. I have tried manual PBO adjustments to no avail.
>>107504341looking at a market people are NOT overpaying for 96gb 6000c30, they are just paying 2 year old prices for kits that now cost 2000€aka sub 500€people are not wanting to be scalped
>>107504380>all in all I should have buyedboughted beforenow when we have identified the issue get going on that L for your forehead, 450€ kits won't stay up for long.
>>107504389Chipset driver isn't the board BIOS firmware.https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B550-TOMAHAWK-MAX-WIFI/support#driverThere may be newer chipset drivers from AMD's site, but the latest version on the board's official support page was tested by MSI.
>>107504434AAAAH IM FOMOINGI know I saw them yesterdayand as I said one other kit already sold out got removed
