no wayland support
DE and distro made by the same people

it's good for browsing the web and being unproductive

>>107498340
that shit's booty, u must com from winblows

Is the libadapta still going or was it abandoned?

>>107498388
Name a better distro. I bet you can't

>>107498456
EZPZ
GNU+MX Linux

>>107498541
Found the Tinker tranny

>>107498456
Even normal ubuntu is better, idk how they managed to make it worse and slower

>>107498646
hello saar

>>107498661
gross

White man's distro

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>Theme is now bluish gray and ugly
>Nemo is the worst file manager on linux 800ms to a second to open on a gaming PC. 600ms to switch a folder directory. Thunar is 25-30ms to open, 5ms under to switch a folder directory.
>Nemo is baked into cinnamon desktop and cant be uninstalled, enjoy!

Wow way to go for linux freedom, becoming as restrictive as windows!

XFCE is the last "good" looking and fast linux desktop that can rival windows 10

If mint discontinues their XFCE spin, I will honestly go through the painstaking method of forking their entire toolset like mint updater, software manager, driver manager, software sources and create a whole new distro based on debian+XFCE only.

Pic related is how linux mint XFCE and linux mint Cinnamon should look. Mint devs are retarded.

I need a web browser for my mint toaster.
My laptop is only used to write texts on it on the go. (Not for daily use)
Need a basic very lightweight web browser with ublock too

>>107498357
>no wayland support
They're working hard on it.

>>107498945
Ungoogled Chromium

>>107498340
its not. linux is dog shit all around. mint is just a shittier windows.

>>107498983
This. Unironically Linux is good if you want to turn your computer into a Facebook machine.

>>107498340
Been on it for a year and a half now, its so comfy

>no pop ups
>no ads
>no forced AI vibe coded updates that break the system and brick my drives
>low ram usage (compared to windows, higher for a linux system than average but less than half of windows without debloating)
>INCREDIBLY easy updating and software installation processes (software center is cosy, can also just use the terminal painlessly if you want)

Its perfect, I love Mint

>>107498340
Your old OS was spying on you so hard it could count the number of hairs on your asshole with perfect accuracy, this one isn't doing that. You're subconsciously picking up on this fact and it gives you joy

>>107499982
Top kek

>>107498796
that looks like shit

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>>107498456

I tried to install it on my second computer and the desktop is black and no windows can open

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>>107500858
skill issue.

>>107500943
how? an OS should just work

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>>107500964
nothing works for retards.

>>107498796
how hard it is to install a different file manager and just ignore Nemo

>>107500858
reinstall/try another DE?

>>107500846
M'nigga.

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>>107498340
It's falling behind that's the problem, and to fix it would take a lot of work.
Basing Cinnamon on Gnome might have been a good idea back in the day but now it's creating more problems than its worth.
Wayland support is years behind, Nemo is limited in functionality and slow and so on.
When I switched to Mint in 2013 I thought Cinnamon was great, but the landscape has changed.
A heavily customised version of KDE would be the better choice.

>>107498456
debian stable

>>107498456
Red Star OS

>>107498646
>t. German citizen

I like Cinnamon but it is sadly pretty deprecated these days. Too few devs to keep up.

>>107500846
Glow OS

The packages in their repos are heavily outdated. For example, you can't get mpv 40.0, you're stuck with 37.0 or something.

>>107498340
Because you're a mindless shill.

>>107498456
>Name a better distro. I bet you can't
Bazzite is retard-proof hence better

>>107498945
librewolf

>>107498359
>non-functional "scrollbars".
>resizing is inconsistent.
>scroll coasting momentum can't be disabled without causing menu bugs.
It's not even good for comfortable web browsing, in my experience.

>>107498456
Gentoo

>>107498456
Fedora with Cinnamon
Same shit but with more updated packages. Super comfy

Fedora is more secure by default

>>107501491
Explain

Is fractional scaling still fucked for us 1440p niggas? Do I still have to use gigantic 200% scaling or use enormous font sizing intended for blind 80 year olds?

Last time I asked about this, the Mint community told me to just use 1080p instead, which pretty much sums up the Linux community.

>>107503467
I don't understand how selinux works so it's automatically glowie shit

>>107498340
debian - unbloated broken shit
ubuntu - unbroken bloated shit

mint is something in between

>>107503757
It's always the same shit with anything display related. Fractional scaling. VRR. Multimonitor. HDR. High refresh rates. RGB range. These problems are slowly getting fixed but I never imagined 2 decades ago that these would be so tied to your DE choice. It saddens me that even though I can technically use HDR on linux, I cannot use Cinnamon, I cannot use XFCE. Hell I couldn't even use GNOME up until I replaced my GPU 2 days ago because HDR + GNOME + Nvidia sucks cock. Why couldn't it just be a physical thing that doesn't depend on the fucking display server or better yet, why couldn't Wayland be a different thing altogether
>They're currently working on Wayland support for Cinnamon and XFCE
And that's fine but the problem is that Wayland doesn't guarantee features you can find in Plasma. Not for the near future at least. And I'm not a fan of Wayland or x11, I practically don't give a fuck about either, I just want stuff to work. That is all.

>>107501130
it's not, that anon is just retarded. also he's just wrong, Nautilus is the worst file manager on Linux.

>>107498340
Because it is developed by a gang of angry leprechauns on the emerald isle and they're not fucking around

>>107498456
windows 7

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>>107498340
Job.

>>107498646
no wonder since it's literally just ubuntu with extra steps

>>107498340
just works

>>107507694
Is this a schizo post now?

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>>107504793

>>107498340
I run Fedora KDE on my PC and tried out Mint on my laptop and god damn can't I stand how ugly it is. It's like when you went from win 7 to 8/10 and then tried going back to win 7, just not possible.

>>107498340
It's good for anyone with lower end hardware. I got it for my laptop and it's probably the best I could've asked for, but my main PC has a 4k monitor with HDR, 240hz, an rtx 4090. So its not a viable option. Im new to linux so the whole x11 wayland stuff is confusing, on windows i just turned on auto hdr, calibrated using the hdr tool and havent touched it since.

>>107498340
To normalfags? Yeah.

>>107498340
it just werks if you do basic stuff like browsing internet, you dont even have to touch the prehistoric command line.. until you want some advanced shit

Whats the best linux for for playing new and old vidya? I always see people having to do shitty workaround to get things going, but does shit just work now?

>apparently cant even play BF6 on linux because of anticheat fucking up on linux? wtf

>>107510730
Considering your specs what distro do you use

>>107505096
mint is literally ubuntu you nigger.

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>>107507694
Linux had this before Windows had it. STFU fucking retard slave baby duck with stockholm syndrome. You are a cuck.

>user.xdg.tags
>user.xdg.comment
>"These are used by applications like KDE's Dolphin, Baloo and others to tag files with keywords for searching/organizing later."

How cachyos vs Mint? A lot of people are using bazzite too but i want to see the desktop ver of steamOS before I use a ssd on it. Is wsl a good way to get into linux?

>>107498340
Just installed Fedora. Anaconda SUCKS SO FUCKING MUCH ITS CRAZY JUST USE CALAMARES YOU STUPID FUXKS.
Spent a 30min fiddling around with Anacuckda to manually partition with LUKS as opposed to wiping the entire drive. Fine, minor hiccup right?
No. Then I had a shitty time downloading my vpn of choice, having to do it manually without a pm and then fiddle with systemd & SELinux.

Spent a good couple hours on that, and once I FINALLLLY got done I thought to unwind and watch Trailer Park Boys.
AND MUCH TO MY SURPRISE KEKDORA LACKS THE REQUIRED CODECS.

Why the fuck do people shill this shit? Should've understood from the name that it's meant for retarded fatties. I'll stick to arch/debian that have proper fucking package managers/helpers thank you and fuck your dnfigger

>>107498456
Unironically macOS

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>>107498340
Can't refute the perfection.

>>107498340
its not, cinnamon sucks
just use kubuntu or debian with plasma if you like the whole .deb ecosystem

>>107516319
Name one thing thats inferior with Cinnamon. Ill wait.
KDE sucks a whole lot more, at least Cinnamon has SOVL.

DEs are for sissies nevertheless

>>107516701
the stock apps, kdeconnect, dolphin
the whole configuration/settings system of kde mogs cinnamon

If i want to learn linux, should I start with Mint in a vm or thd gamer ones. Cachy is the thd most popular right?

>>107515928
mint is ubuntu without the gay parts of ubuntu.

>>107516927
uhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Catchy is arch based so learning curve might be a bit more steep. Mint tries to come out the box with everything you need.
I started with mint and now use an Arch based distro.
Love me some Mint though.

>>107498340
its not, its trash. but still better than using microjeet winbloat

What's the best lightweight DE/distro that has a modernish graphical interface and will actually run well on an old, underpowered machine? Intel Core 2 Duo, 4GB RAM

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I've migrated to Linux completely from Windows a couple months back, the initial process was mostly smooth and without major hassle, but now I've stumbled upon this "issue" I'm having and I want to know how/where to fix it.

The gist of it:
I'm on Mint 22.2 currently, been using it for some months now (migrated when it was just 22, before 22.1 and 22.2), and I need to have at least three clocks in three different time zones show in the task bar at all times, because I travel from country to country quite often and I don't want to set up or change clock digits or search up each individual zone's time and date every single time I change the country.

When I was on Windows (Windows 7 x64 bit SP1) it had integrated-by-default functionality which allowed me to set up to three different time zones and clocks for them, all of which were updating online automatically and were perfectly synced at atomic level (as far as mobo's lithium CR CMOS battery's accuracy goes, of course), working in unison, but on Mint I still can't figure out where to look this up or how to set it up, if it's even settable at all to begin with.

I didn't have problems with setting several different languages and keyboard layouts, but I currently have only one clock and only one time zone showing in the task bar, and there's no option in the Mint's time zone/clock settings to add more. But I need at least three. Please, anons, HALP. HAOH do I add more, if it's possible, and where/how to do it in Mint 22.2?

Trying to bypass filters is against the rules. Keep the mint spam if you dare. Didn't bump + enjoy your backdoored iso wintoddler rapefugee.

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>>107518063
So Mint doesn't have that functionality by default and I'm FORCED to get/download/install third-party applets/software? Really? There's no other way in Mint 22.2 itself?

>>107518087
That is mint 22.2, right click on the panel, add new items, select clock. this is all included.

>>107518103
Then why it doesn't show up in integrated search bar in the control panel, when you prompt it?

It's not even in my default pre-installed applets menu, so it seems that it's not being installed when you install the system for the first time. You have to download it separately, it seems, which means relying on third parties.

>>107518120
How did you survive so long, claiming the transition to Linux was without an issue, when you panic at the first thing that doesn't match your expectations as set by Winblows?

>>107518120
right click on the panel
>>107518140
it is included in xfce and cinnamon, the problem is that the cinnamon one doesnt work (im still investigating)

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>>107518147
Are you braindead, or just unable to read and process/comprehend the information provided?

I said the installation process (as in - first installation) went mostly smooth and without significant issues (though I had to retry a couple times due to the partition size greed, since I'm currently a bit strained on sheer drive space), as well as first couple months. Had to fiddle with Terminal/command line a bit here and there, but only at the beginning when I was customizing the desktop to my tastes (it currently looks like a even-better Aero in Windows 7, but dark themed and slicker/slimmer, which is my favorite look) and etc. The time zone and clock are pretty much the only last thing left that kept bugging me for now, because it's the only thing which I couldn't set up the way I prefer/need to from the get-go right away.

>>107518168
I'm on Cinnamon (I don't like XFCE, not my thing. Personally I would've preferred to use KDE instead, but I've heard/read somewhere a couple months back that Mint doesn't have native or any support for KDE, for some bizarre reason), as I've said, there is Applets option, which shows I don't have such an applet currently installed in the system, and when I just right-click it shows things like this:

>>107518270
Yes Applets. You can add several clocks on the task bar with it. The problem we are facing is adding an offset to the stfrtime string.

>>107518307
What I want to know if why this functionality is not there by default in initial fresh installation, and IF it's there, is there a way to look it up/find it without the necessity to download third party stuff? I mean, if it's supposedly already there somewhere, installing other thing on top of that would mean that I'll just be wasting space on my drive by filling it with unnecessary bloat? It looks like it doesn't show up only in Cinnamon installations, but it's there just fine in XFCE? What's up with that? And WHY, for the love of all Gods and demons and whatever else, Mint doesn't support KDE?

>>107518343
>why mint doesnt support kde
because there is no debian maintainer for KDE
you will probably be able to download the time applet easily

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What theme you guys on?

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>>107518384
Ffs, OBVIOUSLY I get that the applet could be downloaded and used, my issue is in other factor - WHY are people FORCED to do it, to have such a simple functionality of the system as several different clocks with several different time zones/countries showing and working in unison at the same time? WHY is this a "problem" Mint's devs still haven't dealt with/figured out even by 22.2?

Also, the F do you mean "no Debian mantainer for KDE"? Mint 22 is not even based on Debian, but Ubuntu. LMDE is Debian, but this here is Ubuntu base. Ubuntu doesn't support KDE too?

>>107518417
I've downloaded custom thing from GitHub (Cinnazor), then set up specific transparency levels of panels, windows, and sub-windows (when more than one are opening and they're overlapping) manually, via editing digits in a text file. It now looks like Windows 7's Aero, but dark themed and waaaay better, essentially nearly flawless. Highly recommend Cinnazor to any Mint/Cinnamon beginners who wish to have that specific "Windows 7 Aero" feel and look, but with full dark theme, and good transparency that can be customized/adjusted manually. It requires several reboots to figure out and find your personal "gold" combination of transparency digits, since setting it too high might make things nearly completely transparent and almost unusable, so a bit of fiddling is definitely a necessity. But once it's done, it looks friggin' good. The only thing in it which I don't like, is that Cinnazor's style has the MacOS'esque icons for individual windows' Close/Maximize/Minimize options. I don't know why the F it's creator did it that way, maybe to troll people, but it's the only thing that's "bad" in that theme.

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>>107518647
Yes download the timezone clock applet.
Cinnamon simply isn't as polished as Xfce, it's an amateur project.

>>107518683
That is bizarre and baffling as fuck to read that, because Cinnamon is supposed to be Mint project's default DE offering out-of-the-box, no? I mean, LMDE has ONLY Cinnamon when you install it by default.

I plan to try installing and using these in the foreseeable future (next 3~5 years): Zorin, Nobara, Open Mandriva, Cachy.

How hard it'll be to get into those, in comparison to Mint, for a relatively fresh migrant off of Windows? I've heard that Zorin is, reportedly, "even easier" or "even more fool-proof" than Mint, since it's literal Windows-on-Linux where you can install and use Windows software right away like you'd do on Windows itself, but...it's, apparently, based on GNOME. I fucking HATE pozzed cucked nu-GNOME. And it also seems there's no KDE support in Zorin as well, for whateverthefuck nonsensical nonreason?

As for Cachy, both it and Endeavor are Arch-based distros aimed at gamers with ease-of-setup and ease-of-use in mind, so how do they compare to each-other? Which is better sheer stability, speed/performance, efficiency and difficulty-wise?

>>107498456
no one else does Linux desktop better than mint and these coastal elites ITT will lie to you to try and prove otherwise.

>>107501300
/thread for greatest people's distro of Korea

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Alright, so...I've installed the forked applet and it technically works, but...it's coder is a total mutt retard (judging by his neckbeard photo on the reference site, he's either a complete onions cuck faggot, or at the very least insufferable "hipster" cunt) that sets only 12-hours time format by default AND outputs date as "Day -> Month -> Number -> Year", which is fucking retarded, because in real proper actual humanese world it's 24-hour time format AND the date is "Day -> Number -> Month -> Year". HAOH to fix this shit?

I've managed to partially set it up properly by inputting indicator values manually (which are NOT correct on that dumbass' site, BTW FYI), but it still outputs that retarded BS in the Calendar specifically. Picrel (below are properly set values, while it still shows incorrect order up on top):

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>>107498340
itsdoes the job with low requirements and none of the bullshit windows has. I recommend it for low end laptops and basic pcs, but not so much for gaming PCs and workstations

>>107521257
>not so much for gaming PCs
I've been playing AAA sloppa, AA good games, and AA-to-A indie perfection for months since I've migrated, with latest Proton (10-3 as of this writing), as well as emulating a fuckton of old/classic shit. Fuck off.

>>107521346
You choose the wrong distro for performance and other anon will tell you the same

>>107521257
Mint is one of the best distros for gaming.

>>107521374
There's no signficant performance difference between any Linux distro, including some hyper optimized Gentoo build.

>>107519148
There's no such thing as "it's easy for Windows users", that's just a crutch fanboys come up with to try to slot distros that just work into some category. Take Nobara, for instance, it isn't a just works distro and it'll force you to acknowledge that at the download page. The issue isn't that Nobara is harder for anybody, the issue is that for some things, on some hardware, it is more likely to not work properly. Certain Linux users get defensive about this so they feel the need to frame it as "well if you wanted it to just work then you must be a Windows user".

Eventually you're going to figure out that this is the only real criteria to pick a distro on. You just ask who made and maintains it and why they do that. Mint is just trying to give people a sane desktop experience. Debian is just trying to make a stable distro with strong community support. Fedora is trying to test new packages from Red Hat. Etc.

>>107498340
It looks very gay. Are you gay, anon?

>>107521374
The performance discrepancy between "best" and "others" is literally less than 2~5%, retard. Current best-performing distro in gayms is Nobara, and it barely edges out 2~3% higher FPS in comparison to latest Mint, Zorin, Cachy, raw Arch, Endeavor, Ubuntu, and many others. Including SteamOS (which is based on Arch currently).

>>107521346
how the fuck do you get 4K 60fps with modern games?

>>107521436
>There's no such thing as "it's easy for Windows users"
I've migrated from W7 to Mint in March and barely had any minor setbacks or issues since then, definitely not on hardware support or driver side, everything been butter smooth there, for so many months. The issues were mainly only pertaining to finding alternatives/equivalent apps to what was used on Windows, or Wining up to install Windows software itself if there was no alternative (which actually didn't happen often), and very minor graphical/UI design glitches or typos in info boxes/description texts, nothing serious.

I didn't even install Photoshop, because GIMP 3.0+ with "PhotoGIMP" plugin/layer turned out to be MUCH better than the CS6 I was using before, thus I can hereby say that Adobe is ogre in my eyes. Never again.

I'm also still pondering why the fuck I keep Mint's default supplied-with-installation FireFox on this system and continue on updating it, despite the fact I've moved to Libre Wolf and Brave in the first week and never gone back. I'll definitely get rid of that shit eventually, forever.

Basically, what I'm trying to convey here is - you're full of shit and have your head stuck up your own ass so deep you'll never see the light of day ever again.

>>107521488
The what?
I'm on X11 currently, bruv.
No Wayland yet, because I have a somewhat outdated hardware. I mostly play at 1080p currently, so that "4K~8K" won't come until I'll make a new fresh build on all the top hardware completely from scratch, which definitely won't be any earlier than 2028 at best given the latest situation on the RAM, GayPoo and storage markets.

>>107521488
Checked nazi digits.

>>107521551
You can't read, can you?

>>107521642
Oh, so you're just retarded. Got it. Should've figured it out sooner.

>>107521658
You can't read.

>>107521670
You're retarded, we got it, you don't have to try so hard to convince us.

>>107521682
You're trying very hard to pretend that you read what a post said.

>>107521697
Ah, so you're just a Shitsuxx 11 (((user))), as well. Fascinating.

>>107521551
let the haters hate. if mint works for you, great

t. cinnamon user since 2014

>>107521759
You can't read either. I don't hate Mint.

>>107499982
i havent laughed in a full week and this one fucked me up lol

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>>107498340
did they port vine from SteamOS

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>>107498340
It's not good, it's severely outdated and has been surpassed by CachyOS for best beginner distro that just werks

>>107522161
Cachy is Arch-based, retard. It's by very definition cannot be "best beginner distro", because it's fucking Arch.

>>107522161
How so? How does CachyOS (gay ass name) surpass Mint? What does it provide and offer that Mint, doesn't?

needs a more up to date glibc

>>107522261
It's bleeding edge meme, due to rolling release structure of Arch. Means shit always gets constantly updated with latest performance and compatibility improvements, but rolling release model also means shit can easily get completely broken if some retard tries to push some nefarious shit through. There been many such cases in the past. Most stable system is an immutable one, but rolling release model is very antithesis of this, it's impossible to have both at the same time.

>>107519148
Gtfoh are you serious about Zorin? What package manager comes with it and how is gaming on it?

>>107522322
Zorin's devs directly work together with Wine's creators, so Wine is integrated in it's core by default and has better optimizations than standalone separate version, apparently. There are also other improvements on robustness and stability which make it easier to migrate to as Linux first timer. But it's pozzed by the very notion that it's based on fucking GNOME, unfortunately.

>>107522352
This is amazing! I'm so freaking amazed how awesome Linux is. what about game trainers and Cheat Engine? Do they work as well, seamlessly? How do you get kek to work on Zorin?

>>107522363
Dunno about Cheat Engine or other shit that allows to tap into memory and edit hex/decimals permanently, but ArtMoney definitely works.

>>107521458
>>107521397
With kernel patches and drivers yes there fucking is.
Holy fuck you niggas are stupid

>>107522352
Gnome isn't any more pozzed than kde.

>>107522376
Fucking awesome!!! I'm gonna go install, test and tinker. Thanks anon

Windows XP Point Of Sale edition is better than Linux Mint and it still works in 2025 on modern hardware.

>>107522398
Most useful feature/quirk of Zorin for normie newbies that migrate to Linux for the first time and never used Linux before, is the fact that Zoring has integrated ability to automatically recommend you Linux alternatives of nearly all Windows software, in case if something doesn't install or work properly yet, and it does that very seamlessly and very fast, providing you direct official/best download links and etc.

It's like Mint's Software Manager "app store", but faster, comfier, and being updated much more often/thorougher. Zorin is so fool-proof that even absolute sub-21 IQ amoeba retard can easily instantly get into it and migrate from Wangblows 10 or Shitsuxx 11 permanently nearly immediately (I would say even more so than with Mint, in some cases).

>>107522397
GNOME past 2 is fucking trash and you know it. Even Linus, who recently went full-tard with his brain being completely rusted out, openly said so in the recent past.

>>107522456
Gnome is good once you surrender to it instead of grappling with it.

>>107522478
Fuck off, RMS. I ain't eating your soles' dead skin cheese.

>>107522456
You better be referring to Torvalds

>>107522490
Obviously. Who else? I clearly said "full-retard that has RUST of brain".

>>107522496
That could be Linus Fag Tips. Just saying

>>107522392
There actually isn't. What you're talking about isn't performance worth chasing in any event. It's okay waiting a few months for the 1% performance uplift.

>>107522512
Linus Cucknadian Shits doesn't arrogantly forcefully push RUSTrash into Linux kernel, ruining everything for everyone.

>>107522534
Still has rust on his brain, though

>>107522543
He has rust as his wife. And rust in his panties.

>>107522556
Kek

>>107522261
>What does it provide and offer that Mint, doesn't?
It's actually updated, and you aren't forced to use ancient software and not be able to play games

>>107498456
>Name a better distro
Ubuntu 22.04 X11

>>107500846
On a ThinkPad there's nothing better than this

>>107498456
I use Pop OS. I know it's a meme, but it just werks and has had super easy CUDA support for my engineering sims.

Debian stable and Ubuntu LTS are both better than Linux mint.

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>>107498340
Mint got mogged hard, nobody really recommends it anymore

>>107523197
Kys, snapping faggot.

>>107523296
DistroWatch's maintainers literally came out just a couple months ago and openly said: don't ever rely on that "top list" as a metric that should give you decisions, because those are based on mere clicks, not factual real popularity/review scores or quality. It raises every time someone merely clicks those hypertexts.

>>107523311
You don't necessarily need to rely on distrowatch, the face is nobody really recommends Mint anymore. The beginner distros that get recommended are CachyOS for gamers and MX Linux for desktop. Clem fucked up by removing KDE support and dragging his feet on Wayland. Competitors have rendered his distro irrelevant.

>>107523321
>face
fact*

>>107521697
I really mean this in all sincerity, go back to fucking windows loser.

Anons my laptop often doesn't wake up from sleep, or if it does then it can take a long time, sometimes hours.
It came pre-loaded with windows 11; would linux mint make it wake faster?

>>107498357
I was using wayland in mint yesterday?

>>107498796
>If mint discontinues their XFCE spin
i dont think thats happening, ive only used the XFCE version and would rather start using xubuntu

>>107524529
Sleep has never been linux's strong suit, but maybe windows is worse these days.
I always cold boot my mint box because it takes less than 10 seconds.

>UI is like Win7 Dark Mode (comfy)
>werks for Uni/Office stuff
>has native sync for NC so degoogling easy
>no telemetry or ads
>runs on potato

>>107524592
It's there since 22, but only preliminary testing phase support. Not native full yet (and probably won't be at least until 23).

>>107523296
>nobody really recommends
>LITERALLY number 2 on list provided
Tards gonna tard

>>107522456
How's Zorin with telemetry?

>>107516927
If you really want to learn but don't want a steep learning curve, just forget about VM. Install Mint. Make it your main. Your only. The best way to learn is to actually use it. If you just use it on a vm, you'll probably not bother using it enough to learn

Cachy I think is easy also but i don't know, I've never used it

>>107525383
I don't remember there being any egregious data collecting, or at worst it's completely opt-in and fully disabable, Maybe in Pro/paid version, I dunno. It's based on fucking GNOME and comes with Brave by default, so, hey.

>>107525705
So, rip Brave out, and opt out of any bullshit data collecting. Got it.

>>107525720
Brave is fine as a browser, it's just, apparently (I dunno), "adware", in some capacity.

>>107525739
Brave it's a terrible choice for a browser.

>>107507694
Linux had file tags like 20 years ago retard

>>107498340
>still using ugly default fonts
Thanks, but I'll stick with windows

>>107525739
>Brave is fine as a browser
It's literally Chinese spyware you stupid faggot. It's so funny how you guys try to twist reality and sell us this as a privacy respecting browser when it's the exact opposite. Go read the Wikipedia article if you don't believe me. That being said LibreWolf is the best choice right now.

>>107498359
You say that like it's a bad thing. Now get to work wagie.

>>107525975
>Libre Wolf is the best choice right now
They're woked out leftardoid tranny landwhale nigger feminazi CoCsucking furfags with complete TDS. They SEETHE at Duke Lunduke trukes.

>>107526556
You can't separate the tranny from the software. I get it. Which is to say, you are readily swayed by every and Abby little thing, because you can't mind your fucking business and leave others the fuck alone.

>>107526578
It's not about me. THEY (the furfaggotring codingsocks wearing basedcuckboi fuckwits) openly sperg out on Bluecry and in other places about "ciss scum rightoids, Lunduke fascist nazi" and other shit like that. Like, just this summer they shitted out a "Libre Wolf will NEVER not be gay and we DELIBERATELY making it gay by writing gay code in it" bit, in front of everyone. And when Linux community started pointing fingers at them and laughing in their dumb faces, they went full-butthurt retards.

>>107498456
Tumbleweed w/ IceWM (98 theme), I'm having a blast with it!

>>107526556
1. go back esl
2. the creator hates jews

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>>107518417
Nordic never did me wrong. I like Dracula as well.

>>107498340
its dogshit for wintoddlers who have no business touching a computer and should suckstart a shotgun

>>107527798
so you're mad that Mint just works?

>>107501222
I have the same issue with Mint.
It's basically perfect as a desktop OS imo, but it lacks modern GPU driver support and HDR out of the box which would be the final blow for Windows (for my usecase).
I can't talk to much shit on the project since I haven't donated to it and I realize that money is the only thing that's gonna motivate them to work on it more, but it drives me crazy that's it's "right" there in being perfect.

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>>107528501
>it lacks modern GPU driver support
What the fuck are you kvetching about, you fucking retard?
I literally have latest MESA installed just a couple days ago and everything runs butter smooth with no issues. Guess you're a typical noVideot or intbecile. This picrel is literally made for the likes of your retarded kind:

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>>107528732
I was actually referring to the 9070 series actually.
Funny enough, I went back on the Mint forums and it seems like the process is a bit more streamlined than it was previously (see image).
Personally, I would like these extra steps to still be unnecessary in the first place, but I get it.

>>107525365
It fell hard to number 2 and is about to be overtaken by MX Linux after being solidly in first place for a long time. It's only going to get worse since it's lost its niche.

>>107527888
Mint works in the sense that it will boot up like it should. After that, you'll find that there are lots of programs that don't work great, because it's an outdated piece of shit.

>>107529453
That reads like a (((you)) problem. Because for me, it works just fine.

>>107519208
I installed Mint again a couple of years back after being on Macbooks for 10 years. Uninstalled half hour later because that's how long it took me to give up on two basic requirements: swapping alt and ctrl keys and finding a working night light feature. In Ubuntu that took the 20 seconds it should have. Ubuntu is more Mac-like in general I would say, for OSX quitters.

>>107530071
>people are abandoning Mint for being an outdated distro because DA JOOOOZ are telling them to!
cope