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>ends your programmer life
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My trans wife can't give me this problem.
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all lives really
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>>107498742
>waah i cant have fun anymore
>meanwhile jeets and pakis have 6 kids each around you
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>your purpose in life is to outbreed browns le gdp
Fuck off
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>>107498790
hows the mouth feel on eating her out?
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>>107499026
>my purpose in life is to consoom disney slop and buy nvidia slop and drink goyslop
grim
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>>107498742
nah, but you can’t grind 12 hours anymore. sleep deprivation affects code quality. If you got a new baby, I suggest training an army of AI chatbots to make PRs to make up for the lowered attention to detail. You can work multiple jobs like this btw.

also, wfh means you have more time for childcare. This also means your woman will expect you to put in more time so she can sleep or clean or whatever. It’s exhausting.
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>>107498990
i was born in a shit society where all our ancestors failed for every single psyop and shit test imaginable, not my problem anymore, ill enjoy what i can and thats it, get fucked
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>>107500102
>failed
fell
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>>107499124
Rotten fish and milk.
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>>107498742
I know too many men who are married with children who program
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>>107498742
my divorced coworker told me to never get married, was he on to something?
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>>107498742
I think I'll need at least a car
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>>107499188
>>107499188
My wife used to nag me all the time when I wfh so I moved my office to the basement and I ignore her and the kids all day while working, which she resents me for. This used to bother me, until one day I came to the realization that my work will live longer than my temporal life/family. I'm not going to waste these years worrying about my wife's feelings. The work is more important.
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>>107500219
Yeah, you lose all leverage in the relationship. I’ve seen it countless times- women put on a facade to rope you in and then flip the script once they have the government on their side through divorce rape. Passion dies out in the relationship because she doesn’t need to keep herself to a dating standard of fitness or pleasant attitude. You’re reduced to a slave while being told you’re not doing anything right, you go into debt quickly, and you’ll feel under appreciated while living with less sleep and peace of mind than you’ve ever experienced. Your time is no longer yours, weekends are a battle for you to catch up on yard work while going to yet another farmers market or holiday craft fair or her friends/family. Women exaggerate how much they contribute. They also use their network of family and friends as support, running to them any time they have to face their shortcomings or your criticisms. The nagging doesn’t stop. You don’t have the opportunity or time to pursue better relationships. Social media will influence what she thinks she deserves and what she thinks she understands, so you’ll be fighting her with common sense and wondering why she’s doesn’t listen to you. It will feel like you’re an A-list athlete on a team doomed to play on a losing minor league team coached by someone who doesn’t understand the game.

However, you can mitigate this by staying attractive and her knowing you’ll leave if she keeps up her bullshit.
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>>107500102
>i'm a weak beta
nobody will miss you
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>>107500693
i dont care about peoples opinions given they got us in this mess, they are worthless retards, and im not catching a falling knife
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>No annoying baby
>No annoying bitch wife
>Can do whatever the fuck I want all the time
>Can sleep or not sleep whenever I want

>Retard normalfaggets trying to convince me this lifestyle is somehow not worth it and that I NEED to spawn another slave into this corrupt system and spend all of my time and resources so he can grow up and vote for trannies/jews and jeets
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>>107498790
>wifey wants to adopt a child
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>>107498790
Except your trans wife would like to baby you and push you in a pram.
If she can't have them, then you gotta be the one.
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>>107501447
that's fine with me
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Use case for sticking around?
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>>107500415
???? Why would you have kids and a wife anon
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>>107501820
You are mentally ill, she doesn't love you, you don't either, why would you waste everybody time ?
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>>107501820
Also what the fuck could you work on that you think is more important than your family? Do you believe you are some kind of genius?
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>>107500415
>My failed website mogs my failed marriage
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>>107501995
>>107502006
Funny that you recoil at the mere notion of creating something for your posterity. You say I'm ill, I say I'm more loving; just not in any way you'd understand.
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ngl, my kids can be very annoying, but I now get enough time for a full day job and programming time in the evenings - except right now, it's vidya. And if I had said "no kids", my wife would not have married me. She probably would have left. So some days I enjoy my family, some days I think: why am I doing this to me? However, the kids get older, and while teenage girls can get into some shit, I figure they may take less and less of my time when they get older than boys. And if they want to spend time with me, it'll be more enjoyable than what we do right now.
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>>107502075
You just said you were ready to kill your wife if she left you even tho you prefer her not to talk to you but ok boss. Anyway what are you working on that's so important I'm just curious? Posterity is only great if someone gives a fuck, and since your close family won't read your work I'm guessing you see yourself as some kind of genius that would get published and change the world, otherwise I don't understand how you can talk about posterity.
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>>107498742
Why could it be that our fathers and grandfathers had hobbies and spent time with friends, but now every fucker in their 30s is spilling bullshit that they do not have enough time? I hate all Millennials, and even though I am in my 30s myself and have two kids, I don't understand this mentality.
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Women, or vaginal jews as we like to call them aren't marriage-grade. If you want to reproduce and don't have Downs syndrome, just become a sperm donor.
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>>107502205
Are men marriage-grade?
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>>107502159
my dad would come home from work, eat and then watch tv
only in the weekend did we have time to do anything together
it is true for me now as well
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>>107502243
>and then watch tv
Then you and your Dad are morons. Why not use your free time for something intrinsic instead of slopping in the front of the electro jew?!
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>>107502159
my dad was abroad working my entire childhood
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>>107502264
because he is tired as fuck you retard, you'd know if you werent a turbo NEET
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>>107502264
I don't watch tv but similarly watch videos, shitpost on the 'chan, read shit online. I come home tired I just want to relax
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>>107502281
My dad was never tired when he came home (working at a newspaper). And for myself... I'm never tired too. You just a lazy slop who is using his job as a excuse
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>>107500102
this is such a loser's mindset. very poor people are able to have kids everywhere. people have had kids in wartime in history where you would get your head cut off and put on a pike if they decided to raid you.
meanwhile the unlovable dork online proudly states he is not going to have kids like he had any say in the matter. have some humility.
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>>107502305
cool story "bro"
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ITT: Changs try and convince westerners
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>>107502319
it's called natural selection
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>>107500870
NOOOOO YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT I DID TO VALIDATE MY CHOICES CHUD
>>107502319
>this is such a loser's mindset. very poor people are able to have kids everywhere. people have had kids in wartime in history where you would get your head cut off and put on a pike if they decided to raid you.
so? having kids is not the same as giving kids a good life, anyone can have kids, its just not worth it in this world, especially given the fact that all women are hypergamous and wont ever truly love you, so the kids that come out of that fake relationship cant themselves be divine gifts either
the world is shit and primed for evil, all religions are a meme, and all life goals are then arbitrary subjective feel-good things people decide for themselves. the only thing we can know of this world is that we have this one short life, might as well enjoy it as much as possible and thats it
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>>107502391
Spoken like a true incel and virgin. You had your time. You need to marry your high school/college sweetheart.
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>>107502473
actually, i dont need to do anything, try again
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>>107502319
>Pic rel

I won't even have this, seeing as the kid will be some hapacel or a little hapa princess

Oh well, white women are just undateable these days. Better than not breeding at all
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>>107502391
a letter to antinatalists: kys
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>>107502487
You can't do anything now. It's over. Your chance to find a wife for marriage is gone.
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>>107502508
not an argument
>>107502509
all women are and always were hypergamous, no matter the time
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>>107502551
You know nothing about women.
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>>107502553
not an argument
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>>107502556
>okcupid
A site for old people. lmao.
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>>107498742
>too much of a helicopter parent to send kids to summer camp
>too lazy to drive kids to an after-school club
>too cheap to pay a cleaner and a babysitter
>too short-sighted to notice big families hit escape velocity when the firstborn is old enough to watch the young ones for them
These are self-inflicted problems. The whole point of landing the developer job is to make money (or else you'd might as well just be a hobby programmer). The whole point of making money is to make things convenient.
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>>107502564
>A site for old people. lmao.
it wasnt when the data was published, but thanks for exposing yourself as a newfag retard kid who doesnt know the basic stats that have been posted everywhere here for the last 10 years

another low iq retard with no arguments to join the 70% divorce rate stats lmao
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>>107502319
>very poor people are able to have kids everywhere
Low IQ trash will always have more babies because it is what the primal brain wants and no matter the circumstances they will reproduce even if they live in a studio apartment or on the street, because a low iq smooth brain is used to not hearing themselves think or have ambitions of their own.

But if you're high or above average IQ and have a frontal lobe fully developed you might not want to have kids for one simple reason and that is if you have a kid as a high IQ individual you pretty much end your own life as a result, because you'll have to care for another human being that is brought into this harsh and unjust world completely helpless with no means of defending themselves. Your kid will need to be protected both physically, emotionally and psychologically against bullies, literal fucking serial killers, the corrupt government and the glowies, when a high IQ individual takes all of those points into account they come to the conclusion that A) They need to be filthy rich to be able to afford all that B) They need to be dumb as shit to be able to afford to not think about raising a child C) Not have a child at all or postpone it as much as possible.

Low iq smoothies don't really have any ambitions of their own and could be used to be a dysfunctional household just like the one portrayed in idiocracy, so it's not a problem for them to have 10 kids.
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>>107499151
This, but unironically. Except with better hobbies and tastes.
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>>107498742
You have to choose. You either give up on your own life as soon as you're actually good at something to shepherd a new one, or you don't reproduce and commit yourself to actually doing something with yours. Or option C, make so much money that you can pay someone else to raise it (nanny, boarding school, and so on).
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>>107502502
there is nothing wrong with Hapa children
the world in 1000 years will have a Hapa upper class and a Mulatto + Brown + Black + Muslim lower class; the pure races of today will disappear just as Kalergi prophesied.
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>>107499151
>grim
you have to type it in your terminal if you want to take a screenshot
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>>107502508
We'll do you one better: we'll kill our entire family line for eternity. Now you go raise a good little worker bee and if you're lucky maybe one of them will be 3SD smarter than you and will do something of value to society (but probably not, since intelligence is highly heritable)
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i have a third baby on the way
i'm dreading the lack of sleep during the first few months (or interrupted sleep during the first 1-2 years in general) butit's going to be fine
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>>107498742
Who the fuck fits a bassinet facing forwards.

>>107498790
You mean, your boyfriend?
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>>107498742
As a white virgin male I want to have a wife and child, hopefully 2 children, maybe more. But let's be honest, I'm never going to get a gf. And if I did, she probably wouldn't want kids.
I can only hope that on the off chance I get a gf that one day we also get married and that we have lots of kissy sex and that she'll get pregnant accidentally.
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>>107502883
1. don't lose hope
2. don't stop improving
3. don't stop trying
4. don't stop trying
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>>107498742
Joke's on you. I am dying alone.
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>>107502883
I hope you're under 30, having kids after 30 is a massive dick move on the kids. No one wants their dad to be an old faggot by the time they're out of highschool.
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>>107502626
chances are you are not high iq, you are just a loser who got psyopped by antinatalism sentiment.

>dont have kids because something bad might happen

this is bitch made loser thinking, not "high iq". why go outside? something bad might happen. its a part of life. actual high iq people wade through all the difficulty of it and make a good living for their kids. your life right now probably consists of jacking off, watching anime, and playing video games that you got bored of 10 years ago. it already ended bud.


>idiocracy
lol ok dude. you are definitely high iq mr reddit

i am wasting my time even responding to this. unemployed dipshit that thinks hes "high iq," who hasnt gone outside in years proclaiming hes above having children. oh wow ive never seen this before.
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>>107502706
Actually a century of globalization has produced nearly no change across genepools, ethnic cleansing have been more impactful, and hapa futurism is unlikely due to the respective sizes of the ethnic groups. The future will be decided by the 500m young demographic around 2070-2100 as the glut of 10bn retards will be infertile or elderly by that point
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>>107503312
>i am wasting my time even responding to this
Exactly, it's almost as if you need to prove to yourself and everyone else on a bosnian ape breeding forum that you are high iq and having kids is good and that's how it should it be.

Sounds like you're insecure or having trouble at home. Can't get it up? Or is your wifey not good looking any more after shitting out your spawn? Poor babby. Or is it that your goo goo ga gaing spawn is making your have sleepless nights? What is it, hon? You can share.
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I became a father at 28 but I was making bank (data engineer), so my wife was able to leave work and take care of our baby full time, it's been 2 years since then and when my daughter starts going to school the wife will go back to working half-time. Since I work from home I've been able to help and play with my kid through the day.

These 2 years have honestly been the happiest in my life. I get up early and actually work from 8:00 to 13:00, then I fuck around learning Lisp and making tools in emacs for the rest of the afternoon, those same tools allow me to get shit done even faster the next day, and so on.
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>>107500415
>my contributions to a B2B SaaS web app will echo across time and space
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>>107498742
and this is why you should always fuck in the ass, kids.
t. sex ed 101
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>>107503482
no, life is going great actually. suspiciously great. but i do remember a time being in your mindset and it embarrasses me to remember. i am also naive enough to believe that i can maybe nudge someone in the right direction to realize how pathetic and obvious the mindset is. people see right through you when you say this stuff too.
consider this your ghost of christmas future (based) and rethink this mindset. or dont. who cares.
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>>107503312
I'm not sure it makes sense to treat IQ in isolation. If low/high IQ correlates with r/K selection strategies as you guys suggest then you'd anticipate r selected populations expanding/contracting with local conditions with K remaining more stable. If navigating an industrial system puts further planning impetus on higher IQ pairs then it would postpone but not necessarily reduce their already lower fertility rate, which is what we see. From the genes' perspective IQ doesn't matter so much, only if that attribute results in them being propagated when adverse conditions filter the r-types
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>>107498742
The best thing to happen in my life was the birth of my son. Everything else is so inconsequential in comparison
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>>107500102
>scream SoCiEtY oWeS yOu NoThInG! at people for their entire life
>people decide to give back what they get
>endless meltdowns ensue >>107502319
Hilariously pathetic every time.
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>>107501820
holy fucking based print this reply out and put it on top of her corpse i want my post to be in an fbi evidence locker
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>>107498742
Please, I'm too autistic to even manage to stick my dick inside a woman
My programmer life is eternal
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>>107500415
You are a legend
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>>107506324
yeah that's cool anon
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>>107501820
>I don't want her but nobody else can have her
psychotic behavior, hope your bitch leaves you in the night without a trace and has a prosperous life
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>>107500870
Holy based
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>>107502243
Dad would come home from work and watch tv all night every night for decades.
Dad would tell mom not to talk to him because he worked all day.
Mom would tell me to never talk to him because he worked all day.
Dad wondered why I didn't have a relationship with him. When I moved out I explained it to him.
This has only been going on for a century now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puJt66y0TBw
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>>107498742
oh to be a father
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>>107500415
kek, piece of shit if true
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>muh family values fags when they get asked to interact with their children >>107502281
Just skip the bullshit in between and jump straight to ending your miserable failed existence.
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I got a vasectomy. I have an 800+ credit score.
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>>107502319
good job saving the thumnail retard
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>>107498990
if my wife took care of the kids instead of just shitting them out and handing them over to me, I'd do that too
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>>107508785
women and kids are annoying, and from the look of it he was right
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>>107502216
what does "marriage grade" mean to you? i bet its finance/job related kek
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