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https://lwn.net/Articles/1049831/
Rust is officially over. The Linux maintainers have revolted and are ending the Rust experiment.
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Rustfags won for good, it's over

>it is now a core part of the kernel and is here to stay
>the "experimental" tag will be coming off

>it is now a core part of the kernel and is here to stay
>the "experimental" tag will be coming off

>it is now a core part of the kernel and is here to stay
>the "experimental" tag will be coming off

Meanwhile bastion of the free tech press Lunduke is yapping about a random mastodon tranny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY7L2tWjkPM
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Reaction from top minds of """Hacker""" """News"""

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46213585
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Chuds lost. Jewduke lost.
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Ruwuwsty boys we won

Cniles stay sipping cum
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Troonduke stop sucking off tranny gocks and get your journalism hat on
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>>107500587
it's finally over.
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>Phoronix would be proud of that headline.
Kek
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Alyssa won.
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buttplug-rs won.
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Which jewtuber will get their slop video out first?
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rust sissies... we won
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Usecase for any other language now?
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>>107500882
This *will* be in the kernel come next year.
https://github.com/buttplugio/buttplug
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>>107500882
>>107501088
>*crashes*
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>>107501088
You better not be cheating in Chess by having stockfish running on a raspi powered buttplug, sending you morsecode output vibrations and clenching your anus to input text.
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>>107500763
Lunduke lost.
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>>107500587
>Mike: rachel and i are no longer dating
>rachel: mike that's a horrible way of telling people we're married
Bazinga
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I am not fluent in rust. I even never wrote a single rust statement. I fear this step will divide the kernel developer family on a fundamental level. I think this is no good thing to have in Linux. After Microsoft go full haywire on win 11 Linux was a well regarded alternative. I fear the rust situation (and the drama from the rust developers) will drive users away. Just my 2 cents
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>>107501114
>.unwrap()s in your anus
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Imagine being the person who's core contribution to the most widely used OS in the world being the artificial obsolescence of billions of hardware devices AND the thing that allowed for the "free and open source operating system" to become fully locked down to the point where the end user isn't allowed to do anything at all. So much for "freedom".

Never forget that Linus and his gaggle of cock suckers were happy to take the dirty money to allow this to happen. They know full well what they're doing. Don't forget about the jew Stallman taking the dirty money too. What a bunch of faggots they're all going to burn in hell.
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>>107501227
Mara won.
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LUNKOOK WAKE UP WAKE UP
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>>107500587
its over
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Alright, where's the fork?
I'm not going the BSD cuck license route either
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>>107504154
fork for what you mouthbreathing retard?
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>>107504169
for a kernel without a dilation kit, trannyman
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>>107504205
I take it you're some tranny yourself if you don't already use Gentoo and compile it at home with your own config.
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>>107504232
cat /etc/os-release
NAME=Gentoo
ID=gentoo
PRETTY_NAME="Gentoo Linux"
ANSI_COLOR="1;32"
HOME_URL="https://www.gentoo.org/"
SUPPORT_URL="https://www.gentoo.org/support/"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.gentoo.org/"
VERSION_ID="2.18"

don't want it in my kernel codebase to begin with
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>>107503030
>to become fully locked down to the point where the end user isn't allowed to do anything at all
Any evidence on that?

>>107504205
>or a kernel without a dilation kit, trannyman
You have some serious issues.
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>>107504301
So remove it?
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>>107500587
years of "Rust in the kernel" later and i still dont know about one single kernel module that i use that has Rust in it.

It all seems so forced and artificial.
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>>107504340
>It all seems so forced and artificial.
This is my largest concern, right behind 'untested'.
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>>107502087
>I fear the rust situation (and the drama from the rust developers) will drive users away.
The only drama so far was coming from C developers. Rust developers just do their own thing in their special corner.
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>>107504340
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>>107504340
It all seems so forced and artificial.

The point is to change the licences, so yes it is.
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>>107504460
Even if all code was replaced with rust that wouldn't change the license without torvald agreeing.
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>>107504553
Torvalds already agreed to never use GPLv2, made an exemption explicitly for corpos, and now he decided to allow use of Rust.
Soon he will be dead.
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>>107504460
Rust parts of Linux are released under GPL-2.0 as well.
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>>107504419
What's the next cope from cniles gonna be?
>pssht, only 10 users?
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>>107504640
ur mentally retarded
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Thalia won bigly, chuds and jewduke seething
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>>107500645
>>107500650
>>107500663
>>107500670
>>107500689
ACK yourself.
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>mogs all the chuds
Thalia won
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>>107504682
kek, literal who?
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>>107504670
As expected
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>>107504682
>>107504697
>main maintainer of rust
ah, that explains why its so fucktarded and impractical
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>>107504682

why does she have an Adam's apple?
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>>107504773
thats bc everything about rust is fake and gay
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You will compile a hundred different versions of rust before you rebuild your kernel
and you will be happy
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>>107504682
i wonder what he looks like actually cuz that is one ugly profile pic, alyssa mogs him
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>>107504844
um sweetie there's nothing wrong with th
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>>107500587
Really good news. Hope they start replacing more and more components with Rust. It's literal engineering malpractice to write security-critical software like a kernel in this day and age without a language that enables memory safety/programming with a trusted computing base. I hope Rust can go even further and start providing facilities for formal methods.
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>>107504870
>has no formal method to ensure there's 0 panicking code in mission critical software such as the kernel
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>>107504870
Even if they don't outright replace C parts, just the fact that they will formalize a lot of APIs semantics is a huge win. There is so many places in Linux that are under documented and implementation-specified.
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>>107504915
sounds like preemptive cope.
i thought you were winning...
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>>107504944
Rustrannies only win in their demented minds.
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>>107504890
Yes. This is something that should be fixed. However, in the meantime Rust is still far better than C for mission critical software. Software is constantly evolving and still quite immature compared to other engineering disciplines. It's not hard to imagine a future where Rust gains formal method capabilities and you can just update your Rust code to use them (potentially finding lots of bugs along the way) to make it much more reliable.
>>107504915
True. The more invariants we can encode statically, the better, since static things are easier to reason about than dynamic/temporal things for both humans and generative AI models. This is no different than we decided to stop using goto and switch to structured control flow (if, for, while)
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>>107505021
No it isn't, fuck off retard.
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>>107504997
have you seen their lives?
its kinda understandable they do that
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>>107505038
They have to lie to themselves about being women, so it makes sense that they'd go and lie about their toy language aswell.
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>>107505031
I like how your reply doesn't even make it clear what the "no it isn't" is referring to. Shows how much effort you put into it.
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>>107505052
I like how you got mad.
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>>107505050
yeah
lies are central to their existence
lies and misery
thats why theyll shill any product, and support any group given they can derive victory by proxy from its success
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>>107505065
sure i did
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>>107505071
For someone so concerned with memory safety, they will surely try to memory hole this one.
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>>107505152
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Chuduke on suicide watch
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Don't pay attention to the technology implemented.

Pay attention to who is ordering the implementation.
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>>107500587
ahaahaha total C victory. C is inevitable.
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>>107506441
>Pay attention to who is ordering the implementation.
Linus?
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>>107500645
Don’t know why anyone doubted it. The experimental status was always a Trojan horse. Next they’ll remove the ability to build without rust. The point was always neutering the C hacker culture that Linus’ successors after Greg KH would come from, now those people have to be fluent in rust which culturally selects for anti-GPL corporate slaves.

Really this all goes back to when the plumbing work started to get the kernel to build with Clang even though it’s slower to this day than GCC. Now we’re a few months out from a fully featured Linux kernel being impossible to compile with GCC because GCC-rs is incomplete and probably always will be. Rust’s “the compiler is the spec” is about making alternative implementations more difficult.
>>107500650
Hacker news only likes free software they can close the source on, change five lines and sell it as a revolutionary new SAAS to make home computing worse.
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>>107505071
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>>107500587
Will C-troons kill themselves?
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>>107500587
Are they ripping Rust out entirely or are they going to just leave that shit dangling there like so many other parts of the Linux kernel which go unmaintained?
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Anti-rust movement was always artificial. Tiny minority with loud voices and almost none of them are actual contributors. Basically virtue signalling
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>>107504915
>There is so many places in Linux that are under documented and implementation-specified.
such as? oh no, you're just parroting shit other retards pushing for rust were saying. "fixing on a specific behavior just because it'll break some tranny code that depends on it and nobody cares to maintain" is hardly any kind of guarantee
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>>107508994
you mistakenly put "anti-" in the beginning of your post.
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>>107508733
If you read the article they say it's the end of the expriment because it is a success and no longer marked experimental
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>>107506482
>>107508199
C lets you replace Russians with Indians and Africans. Rust lets you write software that works.
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>>107506482
if you read more than the title you'd know this is a loss for C, they actualy just stopped marking rust as experimental because it has been a huge success in the kernel.



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