Where did it all go wrong? Chat clients used to need like 15MB of RAM for the same functionality
>>107505262Jeet programming patterns forced all programs to use Electron.
>>107505262Stop the programming elitism and understand computer programs need different amounts of RAM. HAES (healthy at every, memory, size) is law.
>>107505262>Where did it all go wrong? lazy and poorly educated "developers" that only use webshit, can't code in c, can't code assembly, etc.. just script monkeys>>107505314>programming eltism>gibberishGOOD MORNING SAR!
>>107505314>a chat client needing more RAM than Skyrim is completely normal
>>107505351Yes it is. It's the new normal. Deal with it chud.
>Pictured: the last two C users ever captured in the wild, 2047>Picture is black and white and low res because the camera firmware was written in NodeJS
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>>107505262Just use the web app.
>>107505696>don't use the chrome client, just use the chrome client instead
>>107505748discord works on Firefox though
>>107505748the program is doing much more, like perusing your entire filesystem and monitoring your other open programs, among whatever else it likesthats how the "Now Playing: farming simulator" works
>>107505262>Meanwhile on 64GB of RAM, RTX 5090, m.2 SSD, and Discord's cache installed on ramdisk
>>107505748And it's using less ram so yes
Why do people install a website on their computer? That's really dumb.
>>107505793Ddr5 6000mhz ram?
>>107505810DDR4 3200 MHz ram
>>107505262>Chat clients used to need like 15MB of RAM for the same functionalityBack in the 90s slackware would run on 4mb ram with x.
>>107505815You're not trying enough then
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>>107505819If they had "the same functionality", people wouldn't have switched
>>107505803Because developers increasingly just offer their apps as NodeJS spaghetti code and call it a day. I just looked through some note taking programs in Linux. Here are the top 4 results>Obsidian - NodeJS >Joplin - NodeJS>logseq - NodeJS>Standard notes - NodeJS
>>107505859Well if they're the "top 4", that means they're better than the alternatives.
Part of it is sort of a >applications expand to fit in existing resourcesafter >well, we'd like to do X and it will take a little more space but it will be a big new feature and helpful. We have the hardware and resources, we should do it is replaced with people making the above rationale for every single shitty little thing, instead of only important or beneficial elements. Mixed with not caring if something needs resources if we supposedly have a surplus of course. >Discord specificallyDiscord is basically THE EVERYTHING APP. So even aside from Electron acting as a whole fucking Chrome/ium browser and browsers do more than anything these days, Discord specifically is basically doing shit constantly. Its monitoring and offering an overlay for every game so it can tell people what you're playing, its taking control of voice and video subsystems, its saving everything, automatically rendering shit that gets hyperlinked in so you get the nice little in-line images, and so much more. Zoomers expect it to do everything all the time and that is more important than resources apparently.
>>1075052622 reasons: Electron based apps Indian webdevs
>>107505262the surveillance part of the program takes up a lot more space and resources these days.
>>107505883Anon, popular doesn't mean better. That's like saying any movie in the Marvel Cinematic Universe is better than Citizen Kane because more people saw the former.
unused ram is wasted ram, this is why we'll write our nonthingburger program to consume 8 gigsneed to run more than 2 programs? just buy more ram goy
>>107505262Discord is just chromium
>>107505262Javascript and its consequences have been a disaster for the computer race.
Web browsers are infamous for not freeing up unused ram. Even when I close all the tabs there is still hoards used. Chromium must be 90% vibe coded by now.
>>107505262i'm guessing they use React webapp slop to do it all so it's not surprising
>>107505314kek
>>107505262It needs all that RAM in order to fit all the spyware and telemetry features
>>107505262emoji was the beginning of the end for chat clients. the motivator for adding that is the same one that led to a chat client also being a fucking streaming platform and game distribution client
>>107505349>>107505351>no sense of humor or internet knowledge, spamming that anyone else is a jeet
>>107506685Shutting the mouth racist timmy no pne will reads you massages
1. Market does not punish poorly written software2. Market does not reward well written software3. Because of 1 and 2, market does not reward competence4. Web is the most popular platform, because it has little friction (no need to compile anything, you can do live programming) and the result can be easily shared (just go to a website, not install required)5. Because of 3 and 4, everything is a web app now6. Web is not the fastest platform, but it does not have to be painfully slow. But because of 1 and 3, nothing ever gets optimized.7. ??????8. Discord
I haven't noticed this at all using vesktop.
>>107505262lol"temporary" just like the 4chan captchas were "temporary"I STILL REMEMBER MOOT YOU BASTARD
>>107505391>the camera firmware was written in NodeJS
what am I missing out on
>>107505262>chat clientthis is what you boomers get wrong, it's not a "chat client" like your shitty IRC, it's a fully fledged social network with rich media, streaming and voice capabilities
>>107505262IRC BROS WW@
>>107507008Yahoo Messenger ran on 8MB of RAM and can do all that shit
>>107507008Unless I can click a funny button and make my friend's chat window vibrate it's not worth SHIT.
>>107505262To be honest, i kinda get it for small applications. It's much easier to create cross platform applications when all of the UI shit is abstracted away for you by the web browser. They've had decades to perfect this.But discord isn't small.
>>107507075Anon stop remember things, that's doubleplus ungood.
>>107505748The web app is at least sandboxed inside your browser and can't auto-start at boot to begin scanning your PC
just buy more ram, it's cheapLOLOL
>>107506758I don't blame them desu. I've fallen for dumber bait. At least one person got the joke.
