>>107508442
didn't read

I cannot understand what the text in the image says because I unwilling to decipher the smarmy homosexual redditor lingo and find whatever point is being made behind the sarcasm. If you rewrite the text in the image in a non-faggoty style, it's possible I might be able to respond to your thread

>>107508442
Bro just use vi.

>>107508442
>>107508488
"Written in Rust" is the "Early Life" of software.

You read these condescending snarky timewasters full of strawmen and uncalled for shitting on battle tested software and safe-offensive insults to the people who use it, always followed by an out of place plug for some "alternative" that promises to solve problems nobody actually encounters (and then some), and every single time, that alternative is written in Rust.

>>107508442
can't you just rollback your vim and vim plugins to a known-working state? and then figure out what went wrong with its updates at a time of you convenience?

>neovim
nobody uses that

>>107508442
he is right you know
you don't need a "plugin" that numbers your lines or something equally retarded like that

>>107508442
Didn't read && i haven't updated vim in 4 years, neiither did my arch install. It just works.

>>107508442
more like neovag/axewound lmao
nanochads rise up!

>>107508847
Hello, based department?

>>107508442
>neovagina
Corrupting Vim into a fake Emacs for people too dumb for Lisp.
>hurlix
rust shitware kakoune abomination that after literal years still doesn't have the scheme plugin system (rusty scheme btw)

Emacs and vi(m) are the only editors that matter. No more brother wars.

>>107508442
i don't use any plugins in vim though. all my config and macros go in vimrc. anything more is bloat.

Never had any of the problems outlined in his pointless manifesto. He sounds pretty gay, and I don't ever want to meet him or read any of his other musings.

>>107508442
my neovim never breaks because I don't update it

I've been thinking of moving to vim though, I don't really use many plugins but I do use some LSP features, I'm sure vim supports that stuff quite easily right?

if your rust editor is better you shouldn't need to shill it to get people to use it, nor write blogposts boring nvim users who are working at max productivity

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>>107508567
>"Written in Rust" is the "Early Life" of software.
trvthnova

the nvi package has been broken for months, so i installed neovim for now.

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>>107508488
>I unwilling to decipher the smarmy homosexual redditor lingo and find whatever point is being made behind the sarcasm
This. I completely zone out, lose concentration, and instead picture a bearded faggot snickering under his breath while typing out this inane shit.

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>>107508567
>"Written in Rust" is the "Early Life" of software.

Helix does not support chaining multiple commands together.

can't do
:wa! | !make
so you must do
:wa
:sh make

niggerlicious.

>>107508442
I tried neovim and it seems the culture is like webshit when they constantly change APIs for no reason. When you check how to configure something each site has different instructions. The configuration is verbose, many files, programming API, but still worse than straighforward classic vimrc options. I just stick to vim and old style plugins. My main vimrc file is like 200 lines long and I rewrote most plugins for simplicity, the plugins are like one screen long.

I think neovim people are "tourists" of vim. They never actually learned the builtins so they reinvent the features. And they never stop reinventing and changing stuff. Some plugins maybe are cool, but most of the stuff is just a pretty paint over something that can be done with classic vim and builtin features.

I hate change and especially I hate forced change. I don't want to keep track of changes to APIs of some plugins, that' why I keep stuff simple. I almost never change anything in my config and with time I decoupled my config from external plugins and rewritten most to have more control and doing the only thing I want them to do. No need to have a complex plugin if a little bit of code does what I need.

>>107508442
>you update your plugins and are met with a sea of useless error messages
literally never happened man
people just make up so much shit

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>>107508442
Just use Emacs like a normal person.

>>107508567
>"Written in Rust" is the "Early Life" of software.
trvthnvke
>>107508442
don't care i haven't had a plugin break on me in years
just don't use eyecandy zoomer typescript plugins and you'll be fine

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Once you've perfected it there's no need for updates.

>maybe you really drank the kool aid and translated your vimrc to lua
you SHOULD do this, but then realize that emacs is what you are seeking

>>107508442
Why would you update your plugins? This is what vsc/ide/helix/whatever the fuck shitters will never understand: what it feels like to have an editor that just werks, and has, in an unmodified form, for 30 years. The idea of updating my plugins period, let alone anything breaking from it, is so alien to me that i struggle to imagine what it feels like to be able to invent such a fiction. But surely the solution is to editor hop once again, hoping for a perfection that will never come, right?

Just don't respond.

>>107512333
checked but isn't emacs slow? also i don't think emacs can replicate vi's fundamental editing model
what we really need is a lispified vim, not a vimified emacs

>>107512405
Nothing stopping you from using vim bindings in emacs. Spacemacs comes out of the box with vim bindings. And yes emacs is slow as shit.

>>107508567
incredibly accurate

>>107513698
>Nothing stopping you from using vim bindings in emacs
>i don't think emacs can replicate vi's fundamental editing model
this is true, yes?
>emacs is slow as shit
fuck

In 15 years of using vim i never had any problem the OP claims to exist.

Not once did a plugin break on update.

>>107508442
Just use standard Vim in your terminal. Why do you have to make this complicated?

>>107508460
It's some fag who installed a ton of editor extensions and they blew up. That's why you don't do that. Here's my vimrc:

:set mouse=                       "Let Xterm manage the selection buffer
:set termguicolors
:set spell                         "Spell checking works with syntax on in NeoVim
:set number                       "Line numbers
:set rnu                                 "Relative line numbers
:set list                               "Make whitespace visible
:set visualbell           "Vim should not touch the bell
:syntax on                         "Enable syntax highlighting
:set so=999                       "Cursor should be in the middle of the screen
:set incsearch             "Incremental search
:set hlsearch                   "Highlight search matches
:set laststatus=0               "Hide status line
:set inccommand=nosplit  "Incremental command preview
:set title                         "Set window title
:set cursorline           "Highlight current line
:set cursorcolumn               "Highlight current column
:hi NonText cterm=none ctermbg=black ctermfg=black
match NonText '^\s\+'
set listchars=tab:⠠,trail:␣,extends:,precedes:< "Show whitespace
set noexpandtab           "Tabs instead of spaces
set shiftwidth=4
set tabstop=4
filetype plugin indent off
set colorcolumn=78         "Highlight margin

call llama#init()               "Enable local llama completion

And then there's a couple hundred more lines that let me use it completely blind (I'm not blind I just like the option) via espeak (I used to use festival but it uses too much memory.)

Literally the only plugin here is llama.cpp's autocomplete. You already have netrw,ctags etc built in, there's no good reason to install more.

>>107508442
I use regular vim with a customized vimrc and no plugins. Shit just works.