Tor just got a BIG security update. They changed their decades old encryption system from tor1 to something called counter galois onion, making it more immune to traffick analysis and packet tracking.It does this by making each packet in a Tor circuit encrypted with a unique, constantly changing key and linking packets together cryptographically, so that any attempt to modify, mark, or track a packet immediately breaks the chain and is detected. In traditional Tor circuits, attackers could sometimes perform traffic analysis by observing patterns, timing, or volume of packets entering and leaving relays, then trying to match them to identify users or destinations. With CGO, the per-packet key changes and cryptographic chaining disrupt these correlations, making timing and volume patterns much less useful for attackers. Additionally, packet tagging or tampering—techniques where a malicious relay subtly alters packets to track them through the network—is no longer feasible because the network detects any such modifications instantly. Even if an adversary records traffic for later analysis, forward secrecy ensures that old packets cannot be decrypted once keys evolve, preventing retroactive linking of traffic. Overall, CGO strengthens Tor against both active attacks, like tampering and tagging, and passive attacks, like traffic correlation, making it far more difficult to trace who is communicating with whom.What are our thoughts on this new update?
>>1075121051. Per-packet key evolution – Each packet gets its own encryption key instead of using a single key for the whole session. This stops attackers from linking packets over time if a key is ever compromised.2. Cryptographic packet chaining – Packets are mathematically linked to one another. If a relay tampers with one packet, the chain breaks and the network immediately detects it.3. Longer integrity/authentication codes – Each packet now has a larger cryptographic “tag” (16 bytes instead of 4) to detect any modifications or tampering.4. Tamper detection for relays – The system can now instantly notice if a relay tries to mark, alter, or inject packets, which prevents packet-tracking attacks.5. Forward secrecy – Even if a relay’s keys are compromised later, past packets cannot be decrypted, protecting historical traffic from retroactive analysis.6. Improved resistance to traffic analysis – Because keys change per packet, packets are chained, and tampering is detected, timing or volume correlation attacks become far less effective.
>>107512105>>107512120Does this use a PQC yet? None of this matters if the NSA just hoards exabytes of traffic and decrypts it all later.
>>107512105doesnt matter as long as almost all nodes are Germany USA Francei thought this piece of shit worked on a global scale, a decade ago i was seeing nodes hosted in new zealand, why the fuck do all circuits begin and end with Berlin now? yea not sus at all lol
>>107512105YES YES YES BASED BASED BASED FUCK GLOWNIGGERS I LOVE TOR>t. posted from Tor :)>>107512200I just now set up a new node that's not in any of those places! Set up your own node anon. Freedom and privacy depend on people like you and me to keep it alive
And still, i2p is better.
>>107512231You don't use i2p. Nobody uses i2p because it's useless for browsing the clearnet and because nothing is on it. Though it's a decent model for anonymity, the fact that you're limited to eepsites only is kind of a huge drawback. Tor is the only anonymity network that lets you browse clearnet sites anonymously.
They catch like one guy every ten years and likely only because he did something stupid. TOR is a pretty solid piece overall and that's why so many people continue to use it for all sorts of things, legit or not. Glowies can't do shit. If they could, there would be nobody operating in there. Same goes for Hyphanet even though they're radically different in their approach.Personally I prefer interfacing the expert bundle my own way, but normies should be ok with the standard browser download.Good news, keep it up.
>>107512247>you don't use i2pI do, I seed torrents in there without needing to pay a VPN to encrypt my traffic.>nobody uses i2pThe amount of peers that's connected to my node says otherwise.>Tor is the only anonymity network that lets you browse clearnet sites anonymously.Huge lies anon. Tor only encrypts the traffic inside their network, AKA .onion sites.
>>107512275Yeah there is a gigantic disinformation campaign trying to convince anons that Tor is "fed owned" or "compromised". Meanwhile how many people on there have been caught by anything other than bad opsec or weird JavaScript exploits? Absolutely zero.
>>107512299Okay i2p is useful for downloading torrents but not much else, granted.>Tor only encrypts the traffic inside their network, AKA .onion sites.Only .onion sites are completely contained and encrypted within the Tor network, that's true.But Tor still lets you browse the internet anonymously because all the services you use will only see a Tor exit IP address and not your real one. They'd have to go through huge lengths to deanonymize you, UNLESS you fail to use end-to-end encryption (what site doesn't use https nowadays?) and something in your plaintext traffic could be used to doxx you
>>107512317>Only .onion sites are completely contained and encrypted within the Tor network, that's trueso the wall of text in the OP is for onion sites only?
>>107512105>Tor just got a BIG security update.Neat. Thanks for sharing. Too bad there's nothing really new on the darknet right now since 2022 (even cunny, believe it or not)>>107512275>They catch like one guy every ten years and likely only because he did something stupid. TOR is a pretty solid piece overallRussia bans Tor and allows Telegram. That's all I need to know that Tor cannot be pozzed by state actors
>>107512317>Tor still lets you browse the internet anonymously because all the services you use will only see a Tor exit IP address and not your real one.Sites nowadays block tor IPS. What's the point of that argument?
>>107512349>Russia bans Tor and allows Telegram.because FSB agents inflitrate all russian telegram groups why would they ban themselves
>>107512306Tor is generally safe I think, but the timing attack criticism is fundamentally valid, and it's promising to see that they're finally addressing it.>>107512342No. Just because a Tor connection eventually exits to the clearnet doesn't mean it's easily backtraceable or whatever. But end-to-end correlation attacks have always been a possibility. Even for .onion sites (if the host is compromised and trying to carry out a timing attack). This patch will help mitigate timing attacks in all of those cases.>>107512354I'm literally posting through Tor right now. If you really want to get around blocks then you can probably figure out a Tor->resedential IP setup. I haven't needed it yet because most sites worth browsing don't block my Tor connection.
>>107512317>something in your plaintext traffic could be used to doxx youThis is most likely to be DNS. The fact that encrypted DNS is not mandatory or default glows brighter than the sun. Without encrypted DNS (not using tor) your ISP can see all the URLs you request, just not the actual content of those URLs since that's served over HTTPSThis is the main reason you never do clearnet illegal stuff or just stuff that you don't want glowies knowing you're looking up. If you've ever searched for little girls in swimsuits on yandex, your ISP might know that just from the DNS request>>107512366No, telegram just isn't encrypted in Russia or something, and it's not encrypted by default in general. They can just open up any chat. There's news articles about this
>>107512105>>107512120So tor just got backdoored and is now insecure?
>>107512373Finally a pass that's worth the tenbux.(Just make sure to pay with XMR!)>>107512376If you do it through Tor browser then your DNS will not see you making those connections. It would be completely fucking useless otherwise. Trust me, it doesn't work like that
>>107512377Fuck off, Chaim
>>107512373>TOR + Pedo proxy is the winning comboYou cannot tie an IP address directly to a person in my country so I don't care that much and just use a VPN as part of my basic internet hygiene Really don't know why people are so afraid of the zoopedos, they want your money and continued business more than they want the lulz of you getting v&. What lulz are even to be had?>>107512380That's why I put (not using tor) in brackets. Tor really does solve all problems for dumb people. Unless they use windows. If they use windows they get caught because they forget to clear their shellbags and their folder names can be recovered
>>107512306>>107512200It's just basic math, $10 a month for a VPS to run a node, theres 8000? nodes, $80k/month to own 50% of the network, if you dont think state sponsored actors or even some medium sized cybersec company cant afford this you are retarded
>>107512367>I'm literally posting through Tor right now. Okay that's badass. Just know that you're relying on the German backdoored nodes.
>>107512393>You cannot tie an IP address directly to a person in my country so I don't care that much and just use a VPN as part of my basic internet hygieneIf you use a VPN for two different things then those activities can be correlated together. Tor will give you a different IP for everything. It's just fundamentally better anonymity>>107512403A $10 VPS will not get you a very high bandwidth Tor node. You need something that will give you a 100Mbps unmetered connection 24/7. That's like 100TB a month. Good luck finding that for $10>>107512407I just checked and my entry guard is in Romania. Probably running in some Bogdan's mom's basement. Good luck glownigger.
>>107512367Tor consensus is ran by 3 main centralized servers that agree on onion directory and nodes. One of them is a university in germany, think that makes it clear Tor glows in the dark if you get big enough
>>107512403You're even more retarded if you think a mafia or state sponsored group won't pay 80k a month to dab on the glowies. If this is confusing to you then you must also be confused why literally every PoW coin hasn't been 51% attacked
>>107512367>Tor is generally safe I think, but the timing attack criticism is fundamentally valid, and it's promising to see that they're finally addressing it.The way to address it is by padding the packets to change their size at each relay, not by this new update. That prevents size analysis. They can also add tiny delays to reduce timing analysis. Packet padding is not universal across the tor network because it increases bandwidth, but research projects like WTF-PAD try to insert padding at strategic timss to obscure traffic. There is a highly experimental idea that is even better than that though.splitting traffic across multiple circuits to make correlation harder would be a game changer.All of these things could make tor slower at the reward of even higher security.
>>107512383disregarding my earlier FUD, if an attacker controls the first and last nodes in an onion routing network, they can trivially correlate the initial IP/connection with whatever the final IP/connection is. This is fundamentally true and the Achilles heel of any onion routing network which cannot be solved by fancy cryptographic tricks. Tor isn't really that secure considering this vulnerability, its network design fundamentally does not work against a nation state adversary that can monitor, or indeed even run, both the initial and final nodes.
>>107512367I thought 4chan blocked tor nodes? How did you get past that?
>>107512413>You need something that will give you a 100Mbps unmetered connection 24/7. That's like 100TB a month. Good luck finding that for $10are u retarded? we are in 2026 u tranny, Nielsens law shows bandwidth grows 50% PER YEAR. fuck off 100Mbps is like air tier cheap. 10Gbit dedicated unmetered is like +400$ per month
>>107512423>One of them is a university in germany,whats stopping them from just mirroring all the traffic
I know this is a retarded question but if I am not German why should I care that the German government is watching?
>>107512425yeah i wonder who has more resources and legal power, CIA getting dedis all over the world, unmetered and logged at every hop at every IX or some "mafia"
>>107512441>disregarding my earlier FUD, if an attacker controls the first and last nodes in an onion routing network, they can trivially correlate the initial IP/connection with whatever the final IP/connection is. This is fundamentally true and the Achilles heel of any onion routing network which cannot be solved by fancy cryptographic tricks.That's literally the point of this thread and what this new update was made to mitigate>>107512445>fuck off 100Mbps is like air tier cheap.Not if you want to run 100Mbps 24/7 unmetered. I can tell you've never tried this. Your VPS WILL shut you down for maxxing out your bandwidth on a constant basis. They rent that connection out to you on a SHARED basis. You're supposed to share it with other people on your plan. Not hog it all for yourself.
So where's the official Tor article about it? I don't trust a single word written by the feds on here
>>107512413>If you use a VPN for two different things then those activities can be correlated together.That doesn't matter because other people are also using the VPN and of course the VPN rotates IPs every 5 minutes as wellI'm not arguing Tor isn't more secure than a VPN, that would be retarded.>>107512447All tor traffic is being captured by multiple governments. Good thing there's always a more degenerate gooner. And of course all the millions of criminals on less secure networks like telegram that will preoccupy the feds even if they somehow post quantum decrypt all tor traffic ever >>107512456The Ndrangheta and the Russian Mafia and Mexican cartels rival the states that they reside in, the Russian mafia is basically a branch of the state. Sounds like you've made up your mind that there are no criminal enterprises that can rival a nation state's intelligence agency in funding
>>107512447nothing, they are doing it 24/7 at picosecond timestamping>>1075124555 eyes 11 eyes, govs will always betray you look at Kim Dotcom case he was raided by FBI helicopters in New Zealand which doesnt have laws to extradite citizens to US but he still got fucked. Same with Assange. If you matter they make up laws to fuck you
>>107512473>That doesn't matter because other people are also using the VPN and of course the VPN rotates IPs every 5 minutes as wellI've never used a VPN that does this. They all just keep you on the same IP until you manually switch it
>>107512459https://hostkey.com/about-us/special-offers/10gbps-port-for-dedicated-server-in-the-netherlands/>600€
>>107512455>I know this is a retarded question but if I am not German why should I care that the German government is watching?Depends on your country's relationship to Germany, and intelligence sharing. If you're engaging with sexy kids then Interpol is interested, and if your country is in the 14 Eyes then you can be sure that Germany will be sharing some intelligence >>107512484For my VPN the static IPs are actually a lot more limited. But the pool of IPs aren't that great, lots of ASNs blocked by cloudflare etc. And this is literally one of the top 3 most popular vpns (it's blue)
>>107512490600€ is more than $10/month though
>>107512425>you must also be confused why literally every PoW coin hasn't been 51% attackedYou're comparing something that pays nodes to secure it (BTC/XMR) with something that does not (Tor). There are no economic incentives to running a Tor node>>107512459>That's literally the point of this thread and what this new update was made to mitigateFrom what I read in their blogpost, I didn't see them abandoning the onion routing model altogether. From my earlier argument, it can be surmised that any onion routing network is insecure on a fundamental level. No amount of cryptographic tagging or improved cryptographic secrecy changes this, because in the end your connection has to receive the packets the destination sends you, and the destination has to receive the packets you send it. This flaw doesn't exist in scenarios where both you and your destination route other users' traffic at a frequent enough rate such that your specific traffic with that destination cannot be trivially correlated back to you, but Tor does not work that way and is thus insecure.
>>107512473>That doesn't matter because other people are also using the VPN and of course the VPN rotates IPs every 5 minutes as wellwrong because not everyone is active at same time and not everyone is active multiple times at 3AM so patterns inevitably emerge even if nonlinear ie change usage intentionally.>The Ndrangheta and the Russian Mafia and Mexican cartels rival the states that they reside in, the Russian mafia is basically a branch of the state. Sounds like you've made up your mind that there are no criminal enterprises that can rival a nation state's intelligence agency in fundingi think u need to stop larping with your cyberfantasy, theres a big difference between funding and power, especially in 3rd world shitholes selling Krokodil vs NSA/CIA. do you get it they can dox and trace every human on the planet with a few SQL queries? its not about being INCLUDED its about being EXCLUDED or standing out in some way. just by doing ISP query for user activity at 3AM you have a good set of darknet users doing cybercrime, then you analyze packet rates, combine with other info such as online profiles and its done. Tor will never be good because its built on public internet architecture
>>107512505for unmetered 10Gbit yes, good thing theres VLAN so you can split that into 100 x 100Mbit for 6 eur a month per 100mbit unmetered
>>107512515what if i go to Thailand and use an public internet cafe computer? that's how Ryan Gosling did it in a movie
>>107512474>11 eyesThere's more eyes than that now gramps. At least FVEY is weaker now that no one trusts sharing intelligence with America because it'll all go to Russia >If you matter they make up laws to fuck youIt's annoying you have to remind computer programmers this often, that the world doesn't work on material conditionals or like an insecure piece of software you can exploit. The best way to get away with doing evil shit is to join a gang. If you're really this worried about going to jail for masturbating to children or buying drugs just join a gang. ICE, Jews, whatever >>107512515>There are no economic incentives to running a Tor nodeThere are if you're a criminal organization oh my fucking god nigger>>107512542>not everyone is active at same time and not everyone is active multiple times at 3AM so patterns inevitably emerge even if nonlinear ie change usage intentionally.If they're watching my fucking 3am patterns then I'm running a darknet child porn forum.>>107512542>i think u need to stop larping with your cyberfantasyKek the mutt is embarrassed that his NSA might possibly not be the best hackers on the planet. North Korea alone has a vested interest in Tor continuing to exist, and they have enough crypto to fund nodes around the world. Again, you seem to have made up your mind on this topic because you don't want to go and read the Wikipedia article for the Ndrangheta and actually internalize that they control half of Italy
>>107512562>There are if you're a criminal organization oh my fucking god niggerName me the incentive then, what do I get if I am a international cartel out of running a Tor node?
>>107512317>not much elseI2p is faster than tor and the encryption is better.You also don't need to rely on honeypot centralized nodes since everyone is a node on i2p.
>>107512515>You're comparing something that pays nodes to secure it (BTC/XMR) with something that does not (Tor). There are no economic incentives to running a Tor nodeTor is useless because everything that requires anonimity levels Tor users would seek is basically against the law which means only people going after you are the ones who have a guaranteed win
>>107512548Okay yeah I see what you're saying now, if glowniggers wanted 10GBPS of unlimited Tor bandwidth it'd only cost them $600/month. If I had more money and valued freedom and privacy as much as I do now I could totally see myself going for the same package.
>>107512105glownigger threadit doesn't do anything when glowies own the exit nodes
>>107512562>he thinks im american>>107512577>you get a call by Hetzner, whats this network activity? instantly fucked>NSA calls Hetzner, we need 10Gbit unmanaged, fuck off, bye
>>107512459>That's literally the point of this thread and what this new update was made to mitigatelol>duh uh it fixes that *leaves the concern unaddressed and doesn't explain why its fixed*
>>107512621Ai slop.
>>107512349What kind of cunny anon? You mean anime lolis right?
only pedophiles use TOR lol
>>107512562>>11 eyes>There's more eyes than that now gramps. At least FVEY is weaker now that no one trusts sharing intelligence with America because it'll all go to RussiaYou dont know what you are talking about, you silly-assed kid
>no actual link anywherehttps://blog.torproject.org/introducing-cgo/
>>107512498>it’s blue hiro is a cheap fuck lmao. He must be relying on 20 years of janny rangebans to block VPNs. You can get their nodes for $80/month at ipapi lol.
>honeypot started to mold over>drizzle fresh honey ontopenjoy! :D
>>107512444You put a proxy in front of it.
>>107512795Tell that to the bongs and krauts being imprisoned right now for common sense speech.
>>107512105There's no practical reason for anyone to use tor.
>>107512977>It's totally a honeypot bro!! Just go back to raw dogging everything and don't even bother trying to hide your IP from anything you use because... like... like... tor has a theoretical vulnerability that hasn't been exploited yet!kthx glownigger
>>107513190>there is no practical reason for anyone to want anonymity onlineyou are retarded. you're literally posting on an anonymous imageboard and you can't understand the value of anonymity? you lack critical thinking. you are dumb
>>107513210Sorry, I didn't read your post since you started off with an insult to a perfectly neutrally worded post. You should learn how to have a coherent and calm conversation without exploding when somebody says something you disagree with.
>>107513217Sorry, I didn't read because you are clearly a glownigger trying to trick people out of wanting the very thing that this entire website is centered around: anonymity. If you understand the purpose behind why somebody would want to post on 4chan then you understand why someone would want anonymity. You are just a lying shill and I'm tired of people like you trying to reduce the quality of this forum. Fuck off already.
>>107513245>>107513217
>>107513245I accept your concession
>>107513196>tor has a theoretical vulnerability that hasn't been exploited yethe doesn't knowNGMI
>>107513251>>107513253>anonymity bad!!>he says, on anonymous imageboardyou couldn't possibly glow harder
>>107513258see >>107512275
>>107513251>Eglin not sending their bestKekLurk moar before posting glownigger.
>107512566>What do I get out of ensuring my anonymous communications are anonymous as an international criminal organization>The enemy of my enemy is my friend, what do I get out of ensuring other criminal organizations are anonymous as an international criminal organisation No (You) for you since you're too retarded to be a real poster>>107512592>only Americans can be muttsThis is not the retort a white male would use. Sad!>>107512671No I mean that there has been literally no new videos or even really famous girls since 2022. This isn't really an exaggeration. I mean, it's a good thing because AI can replace the real thing and I'm not a child molester I don't need real kids hurt to enjoy the beauty of children but it's still an interesting phenomenon to observe >>107512845>No argumentConcession accepted
I daily drive Tor (WhonixOS). And use i2pd with qbittorrent for torrenting.
>>107513196>please use our compromised network !!!>disregard anyone who is questioning its security or looking for an alternative because they are GLOWIES !!!!
>>107512591/thread
>>107513258He knowsIn fact everyone knowswhy are there so many feds in here ?
>>107513814yes them owning exit nodes doesn't do much but they own every node in the circuit
>>107512105Still a glowie honeypot, don't use it
>>107513703You do realize you can just pick another Guard node or just exclude germany in your torrc. >Btw you should exclude NATO/EU/Fourteen Eyes guard nodes if you're really paranoid
> As of 2012, 80% of the Tor Project's $2 million annual budget came from the United States government,[needs update] with the U.S. State Department, the Broadcasting Board of Governors, and the National Science Foundation as major contributors,[35] "to aid democracy advocates in authoritarian states".[36] The Swedish government and other organizations provided the other 20%, including NGOs and thousands of individual sponsors.[10][37] Dingledine said that the United States Department of Defense funds are more similar to a research grant than a procurement contract.Are you seriously expecting me to use this glownigger shit?
>>107513919You are right but most people don't know what torrc isalso I feel like the main problem is that there just aren't enough "real" nodes
>>107513974I forgot that there's another solution, snowflake. There are around 100k proxies, most of them residential, it's pretty fast and there's no "trusted guard nodes" bs that only changes every few months. (Although some might argue this is a vulnerability: service location attack)
>>107514000just route your traffic through your own botnet atp
Man this thread glows. For all the eglinbots itt saying not to use tor, what’s the alternative? “No logs” VPNs with NSA server taps because they’re subject to the patriot act?
>>107514085> Man this thread glows.> As of 2012, 80% of the Tor Project's $2 million annual budget came from the United States government,[needs update] with the U.S. State Department, the Broadcasting Board of Governors, and the National Science Foundation as major contributorsFor sure, bro.
>>107514085>i2p>not rawdogging torjust don't say tor is secure, its notdoesn't mean its useless
>>107512105Doesn't fix broader issues like BGP hijacks (which can redirect entire circuits) or endpoint leaks. Traffic analysis via global adversaries (e.g., timing attacks) persists.
This board is pathetic.glowies and jews and stupid kids can all fuck off.OP post is a GOOD thing - you clowns shitting on this are just stupid.Check out the desperation here:>>107514141
>>107514141>BGP hijacksMore and more ISPs use RPKI ROV nowadays (Fixes the RAPTOR attack)>global adversaryThe Tor project explicitly said that Tor don't protect against such attack (Very expensive attack as well, we're speaking trillions of dollars)
>>107512275>Glowies can't do shit. If they could, there would be nobody operating in thereOr they don't want to reveal capabilities.>>107512306>trying to convince anons that Tor is "fed owned" or "compromised"Don't lose sight of it's foundation. A US Navy sigint project to provide plausible deniabilty.Would you build a tool like that to allow people to use against you?>>107512403Tends to get whored out to companies like Akamai Technologies, who already have sniffers on 80%+ of global backbones.>>107512441>if an attacker controls the first and last nodes in an onion routing network, they can trivially correlate the initial IP/connection with whatever the final IP/connection is.Even easier if they're able to watch the before and after tor sections of network.>>107512459>You're supposed to share it with other people on your plan. Not hog it all for yourself.Share?No. I pay for 100mbps - PER SECOND - billed monthly, I expect that 100 megabit, per second, for that entire month. You can't provide it? Don't sell it.
>>107514243>(Very expensive attack as well, we're speaking trillions of dollars)Then good news. It's already deployed. That makes it a lot cheaper.
>>107514269>It's already deployedSure, eglintroon
>>107514264>>107514269/thread
>>107514282Lookup Akamai Technologies.See if you can find out why they aint allowed in china anymore. Bonus points if you pay attention to their ancient blog post boasting about sniffing almost all the traffic globally.Double points if you notice the founder was ex moussad, with heavy alphabet soup contacts.
Glowies need (You) on the tor network to not have their packets singled out.
>>107514300>ancient blogpostIt wouldn't hurt if you link such things, you know. Making claims like these and providing 0 links/infographics is just sloppy work. If it's real and it says what you just said then accept my concession.>inb4 I won't spoonfeed you!Soooo, no source?
>>107514335>It wouldn't hurt if you link such thingsYeah. I really CBA to dig through over a decade of blog posts to find something that anyone with any sense will have redacted. If you can't do your own research you'll just have to continue in ignorance. But I'm sure you're used to that.
>>107514363So, no sources for your claims? GTFO fed
>>107512167>we have the data>when are you going to decrypt it?>decrypt? We just like hoarding datalmao
>>107514382stfu he just told you he was too lazy and gave you a good reason for italso you glow more than he does
>>107512376encrypted dns won't save you if the dns server is glowied.
>>107514392Nigger, you just said that Akamai is "sniffing almost all the traffic globally", and you won't ellaborate at all, no links nothing. How am I supposed to believe such claims without anything backing it? It's either an /x/tard or a genuine disinfo glownigger. I'm so tired of these faggots man.
> Monero> Tor> i2pd (for torrenting)> gpgthe freedom stack.
>glowie monitoring browser got a BIG glowie updateCool
>ppplz anon-kun dont use tor it glows and got pozzeddont care, will keep hosting bridges from residental ip's. glowniggers can tongue my anus
speed still not improved so into the garbage bin it goes
>>107512105good to hear, does performance/bandwidth take a hit or is it about the same?
>>107515217>>107514335>>107513210>>107512566
>>107515838imagine someone collecting all their browser activity throughout multiple years on one VPN account, couldn't be meFBI don't need Tor btw since they have CloudFlare (nullifies any https on 20% of Internet, everything can be read by CF and they can puzzle together your real identity from traffic on other CF sites).
is the TOR window included in Brave the same as the standalone browser?
>>107512105dont trust em, will use old version
>>107516145sends the whole traffic to Brendan Eich's basement
>>107513974>what torrc isgive an example of one
>>107516946
>>107512441it doesn't really matter what tech is being used, nodes or schmodes. They control the network, the protocol doesn't matter
If Tor could make you really anonymous, it would be illegal. Simple as.>>107512247>anonymously"""""anonymously""""">>107512275>They catch like one guy every ten yearsThis doesn't make the news because these are thousands of isolate cases scattered around the world, not a big group of people arrested at once, but thousands of pedos on Tor are arrested every year. The record was 13.000 or 15.000 around 2012 if I remember correctly.
>>107517736I read some cases of pedo arrests in my country, they are all retarded shit like "The suspect shared the illicit content with one of our undercover officers while livestreaming his face" (not even exaggerating this actually happened). I have yet to find one that's "his Tor traffic was deanonymized, our agents planted a keylogger on his computer to obtain his password"
>>107515838VPN->Tor is perfectly fine and actually a stronger guarantee of anonymity if multiple users of that VPN are using Tor.Tor->VPN is retarded
>>107512373Not if it requires javashit
>>107515838Anon you are a complete idiot with no idea about how anything works.
>>107512231>>107512247Onion services are a half baked feature compared to i2p. Tor was built, first and foremost, as an anonymous vpn to access clearnet sites.Even in the current version of tor, onion services are a lot easier to track down and snoop on, as well as attack, compared to tor clients.
>>107518591calm down officer
>>107517508Are you able to log hidden service connections going through your node to find shit like this?
>>107513919Just curious: isn't it possible for the police to have the IP of their nodes identified as from another country? I mean the node is in Germany or USA but they know people are wary so they manage to somehow have it appeared as North Korea so all criminal will trust it.
>>107512247I use it, and you are a cunt faggot, glow nigger, whiny contrarian bitch, or all
>>107519229
>>107515838Really you want VPNs on both sidesVPN->Tor->VPN
>>107521515>VPNit like "please log all my traffic"
>>107522073then tor->vpn->tor->vpn
>>107512299>>107512317>>107513695>>107514524You don't need i2p for torrenting, qBittorent in Whonix works just fine, no modifications or tunnel combinations needed.
>>107512105This is like my dream character in smash being revealed holy shit man
>>107522136so (You) order 2x logging
>>107512306Impressive, very nice, now let's see where 60% of nodes are located
>>107524714THIS IS A GIGANTIC DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN I'M TELLING YOU !!!
>>107512105Use TOR for my CP- stick out like a sore thumbUse bare ip for my CP- i'm just a drop in the ocean.I know what i'm choosing. Not using that glowy app.
>>107525329Smartest pedokike award. Can't wait for you to get raped in prison like all of your other ilk.
>>107525388I don't use this glowing slop so i'm not going to prison. You are. Imagine falling for glowy funded programs, NPC.
>>107524783>based freetard destroys glowniggers with facts and logicnice
>>107512306Yes goy, it's very safe and funded by the DARPA and a dozen of countries so you can avoid their watchful eyes. We also made it extra safe by putting most of the nodes in these countries and having three letters agencies handling them. We certainly don't put accidental backdoors there so they can fish problematic users every once in a while. Thanks for revealing the truth zoomie!
>>107526283>>107526415Take your meds, vps are just very cheap in germany.And as for why all the nodes there went online at the same time, they just did because reasons ok ??
>>107517761>My state owned medias didn't tell me it happened so it didn't happenZoomers are really retarded
>>107526447>medsI accept you glowcession.
>>107512105>>107512120Well done, Tor Project. HOWEVER>The Tor Project is switching to Rust
>>107526532I also have to take my mandatory NSA-supplied meds ( Sponsored by BlackRock © )
>>107526601Ohh, sounds fancy. May I have some? I'll send you some digital dollars. (I haven't yet exceeded my monthly allowance)
>>107526619Sure, if you don't use this dangerous criminals currency called monero.
>>107526691Of course not; and I would NEVER use the I2P or residential proxies when connecting to our glorious government's network, nuh uh sir, not me
>>107526733+999 Palantir© credits.