>>107516263
nice edit, have a you

only pseudo intellectuals who tinkertroon simple programs believe this

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>>107516531
>t.

>>107516531
Only people who hate programming and computers complain about "tinker troons."

>>107516550
nope i fucking hate rust it's even worse bloated unreadable garbage that only gives people false sense of security

Thanks to horseshoe theory, I cannot ever like C because it is too close to Rust level of mental illness pushed into another direction.
t. C++ god

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>>107516745
im sorry, but your opinion is invalid.
but feel free to try again

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>>107516263
True
>>107516550
Based
>>107516745
I think a mix of C and C++ is best. It just depends what you're trying to do.

>>107516884
Once you use even one C++ feature, you concede that C is a pile of shit, and it is.
C++ gives full control over what your final binary ends up like and not using it is a sign of low IQ.

>>107516904
>sepples lover
>nonsensical, low iq bait
>among the most retarded specimens of /g/
ok, now im convinced youre a shartoid and anything you say is bait whose sole goal is to disrupt discussion. bc you cant contribute.

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How to learn C if I know nothing about code?

>>107516938
https://learnxinyminutes.com/c/

>>107516935
stay mad nocoder, both C and Rust are for trannies

>>107516938
Unironically get the book in the OP image and start making toy programs, looking up anything you need to. You can find it online for free pretty easily.

>>107516957
shutup shartoid nigger
youre a retard
you cant even program a fucking hello world without a shatbot

youre the same tier of uselessness as the pedos are

>>107516263
You must be fun too

>>107517006
Oh no no no a tranny is having a melty

>>107516938
Read the book in OP, just hold in the right way up.
And you're going to need to get someone to help you setting up a compiler because that book doesn't teach you that.

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>>107517018
>actual tranies
now try to convince me you arent projecting with the rest.
ill wait. a moment.

>>107517059
To start, I don't have images like pic related on my disk and you do, tranny.

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>>107517066
>tranies hating their own reflection
this seems to be a recurring theme with you

>>107516904
Both can and should work in harmony. C++ is for more robust applications while C is good for making performant self contained libraries. C++ just maps more easily to how humans understand things while C is a more direct approach.
>>107516938
1. Learn the basics with a high level programming language like Javascript or Python
2. Forget everything and try to make something in C
3. Realize how atrocious high level langs can get
4. Lurk in C threads and chats and realize you've been doing it all wrong
5. Achieve use case enlightenment by accepting (most) languages are good for specific usecases

C is a hammer, C++ is a monkey wrench, Python is duct tape, Bash is for plumbing
And rust is a battle axe for your crotch

>>107517110
I can make performant and self contained libraries in C++ too. There's nothing C can do that C++ can't.

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>>107517131
vlas.
now rope on stream for our entertainment.

>>107517142
Oh no, the horror of my library not having ability to use a misfeature that nobody intelligent would use kek.

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>>107517181
you lost.

>>107517131
There's nothing C++ can do that C can't either. You'd just be working more directly with the data which is good when it comes to core functionality.

Just kiss already

>>107517225
There's nothing in C++ that makes you "further" from data, midwit.

>>107517256
I said directly with not closer to, quartlet.

I disagree. I really do not enjoy C at all.

>>107517269
Not sure what you hallucinated but I hope you will receive mental help that you desperately need.

>>107516938
In my uni course we are using "C How to program" from the Deitel brothers
Beside having a lot of exercises, it has a whole chapter dedicated to language-agnostic flowcharts and pseudo-code and requires you to make them for many exercises, I think it's a good book to learn programming in general.
You can easily find a pdf of the last edition on libgen

>>107517663
>comeback of the century
lamao
just kys already
i know i would, if i were in your shoes

>>107517708
>i know i would
I know that you eventually will, geeeeeeg

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>>107517721
why would i do that
im not a trany. nor do i post on the sharty

>>107517742
buy an ad already, not visiting your tranny site anyway

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>>107517752
why does the sharty trany recoil from the sight of its own reflection?
why does it disavow its most intimate nature?

>thread created to just state the most boring average /g/tard meme opinion
>devolves into slapfight about the snarkity snappity
Wow this site is really cool

>>107517773
blame the shartoid niggers
i showed you how to discern them, report them on sight

>>107517772
I'm really sorry that you dog got shot by police after I doxxed you, but I missed the part where that's my problem, geeeeeg.

>>107517784
blame them for trying to have fun on this boring website?
nah

>>107517784
Are they in the room with you right now?
And did you buy an ad yet?

>>107516938
CS50x from Harvard

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Using 4chanx with threading is great, since the shartyzoomies who post jaks and quote the entire post formatting don't get inserted into the thread, since they think it's like an upvote to quote a post or something. So they're basically censoring themselves.

>>107516938
read K&R

Why would I ever want to use C++ over C? I think people just use C++ for the standard lib. Is that reason enough?

>>107517880
Most people who program in C++ choose not to use standard lib at all.

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>>107517866
>using threading

>>107517897
I don't really care either way what the interface looks like. I do it specifically because it makes you mad

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Case in point btw

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>>107516938
learn the basics of programing logic, then use this channel to learn C
https://youtu.be/0SkdAoVzWpk?si=46Zc8yBkHMYHvIko
and this one to learn how to do things better
https://youtu.be/9UIIMBqq1D4?si=jMjckKY_6c-EKP5C
then make stupid games with SDL or raylib and make fun of rustroons, c++troglodites and pythonshitters

>no dynamic areas
>no strings
>no hashmaps
C is a little too spartan for me.

Python is actually the most fun for small projects since it lets you go really fast and gives you everything you could possibly want in the std

Go is the most fun for medium projects since it enforces just enough structure to keep you from going off the rails but not so much that it's suffocating (like rust for example). It also makes parallelism extremely easy

I don't have any experience with large projects so I don't know what's the most fun there

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>>107517784
>>107517785
>>107517788
>>107517792
holy fuck
4 replies in one minute
all seething

im famous

>>107518084
c, obviously
but only if you follow the dwarf fortress definition of "fun"

C is fun because it's a simple straightforward language with no bullshit syntax, but once you get used to C++, it has it's own charm too

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>>107518280
c++ might as well not exist for me
its just a bunch of standardized interfaces...
...before c++14 or so
now its transitioning into a sort of rust
i odnt want to deal with that garbage

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>>107518280
>>107518305 cont
btw
the comitee needs to chill the fuck out with that safety meme
bc its impacintg c devs too

the other day i mistakenly added a dereferencing where it didnt belong
and the compiler emitted a fucking buffer overflow error instead of a type error
i only lost something like 15 seconds because i was misled

but still
they broke something that was working, perfectly
and now i need someone to vent my frustration upon
probably by the means of rough sex and/or physical violence

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meds are in order

>>107518385
no, i think ill analyze a hooker instead
and prolly get drunk and get into a fight
not necessarily in that order

>>107516263
May I ask how? Aside from different syntax, all the shit seems to be the same for me
I really want to understand this trend of hating X programming lang because I want to join too but if I stick to the "THIS IS UNREADABLE MY LANG IS BETTER" argument I get quickly btfo by the "you need time to get used to it and that's it" faggots

>>107518385
this is really shocking to me
imagine being this much of a cuck
>you get wronged
>you get angry
>you take meds so you dont act upon your anger, and youre more malleable to get abused again

total fucking cuckoldry
goes to show shartoids aint white

>>107518436
who wronged you and why are you mad lil bro

>>107517886
>Most people who program in C++ choose not to use standard lib at all.
Now I'm even more confused. Is it they just love OOP?

>>107518465
Nobody forces you to do OOP

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>>107518430
i dunno abt op
but i love c bc it doesnt get in the way
but does it make the lang fun?
i really dont know
it makes my task easier
and it gives me great satisfaction to write code that can compete with the best implementations there is
but is it fun? i guess. but its fun in the same sense mountain climbing is fun
youre miserable throughout the journey and it becomes fun only afterwards, when you reminesce how shitty of a time you went through, but you still achieved what very few other people could

i mean
im not entirely miserable either or i wouldnt be doing programming.
but c can become very fucking tedious, very fucking quickly

>>107518446
the fucking standard+compiler people
and im mad because gcc's error reporting has become innacurate bc of their fucking safety obsession :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

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>>107516938
When I was young a teacher gifted an intro to C++ book and wrote "learn in order to C more", that phrase always stuck with me

>>107518497
works on my machine

>>107518506
works on mine too
but in an lgbt way

>>107518509
classic pebkac issue

>>107518528
no
classic shartynegroid issue of being just retarded
on your side

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>>107518532
whatever sir, I hope you'll find your way home

>>107518436
da fuq are you bleeting about and may you consider bleeting elsewhere?

>>107518549
just a 'cordtroon refusing to take meds

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>>107518549
aks chud gpt to translate it for you
because i dont speak retard

>>107518561
group cope therapy

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>>107518581
you seem to have been separated from your group or whyeverbeitis are you failing to cope blud

>>107518633
>basedboru
>kikes
>tranies
>generation cocomelon
lmao
shartynegroids should get a ban on sight
theyre basically reddit

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>>107518648
Would like to see you try.

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>>107518670
if it was a mod id snitch you to the feds for your dorking activities on electricity stations and whatnot
but im not
so i will call you a shartyPEDO instead
bc you really dont like getting bad advertisement, as i learned

>>107518670
>>107518693
its not a matter of power, mind you
bc i know the internet complaints site

i used it to challenge a jany on this very board

but its not my problem
and i dont mind calling you- a retard
if i send you to jail,
i wont be able to call you a retard anymore

>soilence
youre in the big boys court now
youre on 4 chan, not on your shithole
youre not talking with sexually confused 16 year olds

>>107518084
>so I don't know what's the most fun there
heroin, much like everything else.

>>107518781
How does the dick get into the clit? It doesn't seem like it will all fit in there.

>>107518824
>placation
behave, faggot
you got a modicum of respect on this board
but theres dark things lurking here
way out of your league
and mine for that matter

>>107518693
>>107518730
why are you having a melty over nothing? least mentally ill tranny

>>107518833
Darker than a jet coal black gorilla?

>>107518846
bc your thing is to make yourself known through disrupting discussion
prolly bc you come from a 50 children brown family where you never got attention and thats why youre bothering everyone around you
including us

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>>107516531
Fact

>>107516550
>>107516877
>>107516935
More trannies who think rewriting HashMap every time they program makes them some kind of genius
>saar i use malloc and write boilerplate i have 200 iq saaaaaar

>>107518856
what discussion?

>>107518846
or is it just that daddy left for a pack of ciggies and never came back?
and mommys getting railed all night long so obviously you fall back to being terminally online where the groomercord gang turns you into an angry trany

you think i dont know about the groomercord?
i know about the dorking, and you think i wouldnt know about the groomercord
come tf on
its a diss
youre dissing me, faggot nigger cumslurper

>>107518894
yeah, now the discussion is how shartyhomos are actually pedos when theyre not sexually insecure 16 year olds who get groomed into becoming fucktoys for tranies

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>>107518895
didn't ask about your life story but thank you for letting me know, I appreciate that you are suffering so I don't have to, geeeeeg
>>107518905
Yea I'm a pedophile so what? You can keep all the hags how is this a problem to you?

>>107518891
All of your programs use a hash map?

>>107518895
>dorking
You keep using this term. What does it mean? I'm not gioogling it.

>>107518929
You have to understand that rust is a language for webshitters who want to roleplay as systems programmers.

>>107518927
>maidshitters are also shartynegroids
i think youre actually trying to manipulate me here because you got the retardation wrong
maidnigger ARE retarded
but shartynegroids are RETARDED differently

all in all
we already have our fukken pedos to deal with
stay in your shithole. youre only adding to the problem

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>>107518944
you lost

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>>107518959
no, i won
bc i always win
thats what i do

>>107518941
I'm a c lang hobbyist.

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damn I didn't know my silly C thread would get this schizophrenic

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>>107518968
>no, i won

>>107519007
we raped your pol
we left no survivors
im sure ill go look at your shithole rn and ill see 4chans poltardation being replicated by your unironical teens
we won
we always win
what the fuck are you doing here otherwise?
you have a /tech/ yourselves

>>107519006
C and rust are battleground topics where vile homosexual abominations and righteous and handsome nazis do honorable combat.

>>107519007
>>107519023cont

>>you have a /tech/ yourselves
>but teens are fucking retarded
who would have fukken thought, amirite?

rn im defending our autistry
thats becauise theyre /OUR/autists
they should get bullied
but shartynegroes are pushing things too far...
and theyre /our/autists anyways
theyre like wayward brothers... fukken family you would like to pretend they dont exist
but theyre still fucking family

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>>107519032
the reason I want to learn C is because lots of open source software I use and old games I like were written in C, and I want to understand the code for them

>>107518280
>C is fun because it's a simple straightforward language with no bullshit syntax,
That's Pascal, BASIC, and Lisp but people might not like Lisp syntax because it's too different from conventional math syntax. C is not simple or straightforward at all and has only bullshit syntax, but you have baby duck syndrome. If you've been eating shit all your life, it doesn't taste like shit to you, it's just what you think food is supposed to taste like. That's what it's like with C.

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>>107519032
C and Rust are trooning out centrals while C++ programmers get things done.

>>107519157
youre angery because youre filtered by pointers and buffers
admit it

>>107519143
You like shit flavored dicks in your mouth

>>107518385
The "verbally assulted" part was when the Ctranny said "so fuck yourself asshole" not when he said "trannies twerk on C."

>>107519157
I've never encountered a c++ guy who genuinely dislikes c guys. You're unique

>>107519180
thats bc hes trolling
but i suspect hes a maintainer at the basedNIGGER site and thats how he actually has some knowledge

hes still like 2 years behind in our discussions

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>>107519180
C attracts mentally ill who wouldn't know how to avoid suckstarting a shotgun if they found one somewhere.

>>107519180
>>107519195
>basedNIGGER

nonono
i didnt say that
i mean shartyNEGROE
aka soijak party etc

they run weird scripts doe
better sandbox when you go visit them

>>107519217
fine non argument
but shartyhomos unironically drink cum.
through a straw.
from a glass glazed with salt
topped with an umbrella

bc they make an experience out of drinking cum

>>107519165
>You like shit flavored dicks in your mouth
That's what using C feels like. C programmers like having Ken Thompson and Dennis Ritchie's dicks in their mouth.

>>107519261
>immediate homofag allusions
>t. shartyhomo

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>>107519236
Keep crying lil bro, C++ le evil because I'm too retarded to avoid using multiple inheritance o algo.

>>107519273
>>immediate homofag allusions
You are the one who said "You like shit flavored dicks in your mouth" about me not liking C. I even quoted that post in my post. You have more memory bugs than the average C program.

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>>107519291

>>107519275
no
idc about sepples
but i use c bc i dont need standardized interfaces.
quite fucking literally

you NEED em?
well, youre brown then, what can i say
you quite literally need interfaces pre-made for you
why would you say c++ over c otherwise???

>>107519291
>You like shit flavored dicks in your mouth" about me not liking C.
>didnt quote
youre a literal faggot

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>>107519302
what is blud yapping about

>>107519321
>t. sub 80 iq
it matters in this range.

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>>107519327
could you repeat that in english but in a non-second language way

>>107519338
Anonymous 12/11/25(Thu)22:05:26 No.107519302▶>>107519321
>>107519275
no
idc about sepples
but i use c bc i dont need standardized interfaces.
quite fucking literally

you NEED em?
well, youre brown then, what can i say
you quite literally need interfaces pre-made for you
why would you say c++ over c otherwise???

>>107516938
C is piss easy. Literally easier than python.

>>107519358
c is exactly as complex as the machine youre building
no handholding
but no hostile deign either

>>107519371
*deSign
>no handholding
its up to you to deal with complexity

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>>107519356
are interfaces in the room with you right now?

>>107519388
stfu nocodeshitter

>>107519388
Are you the guy who likes shit flavored dicks in your mouth and hates C?

I lost track..

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>>107519358
trvthnova

>>107519402
>t. agent of chaos

>>107519400
>cnile memory leaking outside their programs
oh nonononononononono onononononon you can't make this up ahahahahaha

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>>107519415
>rust sihts itself bc reasons
>and/or having period, but as a man

>>107519371
>c is exactly as complex as the machine youre building
Because you have to read the entire x86 and Windows and Linux manuals and know all the bytes in all the libraries and files on your system to figure out what any piece of C code can do because it might have arbitrary code execution.

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>>107519437
rust and c are built for same people - mentally deficient retards filtered by C++

>>107519449
>c++ tends to become like rust
thats cope what you said and you know it

>>107519454
C++ is nothing like rust, only a mentlly deficient subhuman filtered by it woud think that

>>107519464
i think ill leave you with your retard shit
and ill build interfaces on my own, thankyouverymuch
i have an actual job to do
even if i wok for myself.

especially, since i work for myself

>>107519489
ok
but why are you attempting to shill it
espacially since you didnt post code yet

dont be a faggot whore
post your fucking code, shartypedo

>>107519489
>>107519506 (cont.)
fucking HOMO
fucking NIGGER
fucking...
...HOMONIGGER (from outer space)

>>107519415
Actually kinda lol. Well played.

>still soilence
bring back kikebro
bc you shartyfaults
fukken suck at even shitposting

BRING BACK KIKEBRO
BRING BACK FUKKEN ICELANDER
YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS

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>>107518280
>C is fun because it's a simple straightforward language with no bullshit syntax

&(*item++)->next

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its gonna be soilence, isnt it?
fukken shartyhomos, big of mouth
but small of balls
like fucking tiny

they thought theyre shitposting
fukken lamao

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post code Cniles
behold, my "generic" checked arithmetic
if you look at this and claim this is sensible, then you are fucking retarded

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>>107519569
shutup whore
eat the same code i post since one and a half weeks straight now

still fucking un-challengeable
>>107518305
even if i could still push it 5-10% further

>>107519569
btw, you can use
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Integer-Overflow-Builtins.html
but then you are relying on GCC, so the argument you have about "omg Rust only has a single compiler" becomes fucking moot.
Rust has these standardized in the language:
https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/primitive.i32.html#method.checked_add
my version is portable. if you try and make it fast, you need to use assembly, meaning less portability.
oh, and yeah, look at those delicious error codes. absolutely fucking cursed language (C).

>>107519569
Looks sensible

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>>107519569
>post code Cniles
>behold, my "generic" checked arithmetic
At least you're checking

#define OPERATOR(op, name) \
pair *name(pair *args) { \
    pair *result = number(fst(args)->number); \
    for (args = snd(args); args; args = snd(args)) \
        result->number = result->number op fst(args)->number; \
    return result; \
}
OPERATOR(+, add)
OPERATOR(-, sub)
OPERATOR(*, mul)
OPERATOR(/, div)
#undef OPERATOR

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>>107519601
you are literally writing string to numerics bullshit. you have literally been on this shit for the longest fucking time now. do something interesting with your life.

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>>107519546
********item

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>>107519617
it's not. this is what proper generics looks like

>>107519627
>literally been on this shit for the longest fucking time now.
ye
i mentioned it

->still unchallenged
youre fukken slithering in the shadows
yearning for the light
but the light is gonna disintegrate you
you fukken demon-worm


>up for the longest of times
STILL UNCHALLENGED

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>>107519650
You like going deep

>>107519627
>>107519663
but youre right doe
i dodnt do shit from fuck recently
and that was gay >_>
i gt ecuses but i could have done so much more recently

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>>107519671
you should see the size of my structs

>>107519704
i got fat fucking structs too
women do positively like em

>>>>>fat structcts. like girthy.

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>>107519704
kek

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>>107516263
Yup i still like it more then anything else specially after trying shit like Rust that have horrible syntax.

>>107519753
>raw i32 despite error values
based retard

>>107516263
Imagine paying an Indian to waste everybody's time.
The reality of tech companies like Google.

>>107519782
i guess thats how you deal with rust
you just fucking rape the crab
possibly non-sexually

C++ is better

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>>107519753
your code is fucking dogshit

it's shit and was already obsolete plt wise when it came out 50 years ago. learn lisp.

>>107519855
>Option for error
>unwrap

>>107519856
>learn lisp.
nice troll

>>107519855
My code suppose to be readable i don't even know who would read that dogshit of yours and though hmm this is perfectly fine... also fucking unwraps.

>>107519862
who said it has to be an error, retard?
>unwrap
you're so fucking retarded that you cannot even parse contexts
a test is a perfect place for unwrap

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>>107519871
since i have learned lisp, nothing has been unreachable. Lisp being a programmable programming language, the limit is yourself. it's truly the ultimate language for programming literates.

>>107519885
A proper result type and asserting equality with Ok(value) would be the correct thing if you weren't a retard

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>>107519871
imagine not knowing Lisp lmao
immediately, it is known that you are uneducated on certain aspects of programming

>>107516877
>C beating Rust
Wrong. All shall be rewritten.

>>107519903
imagine unironically posting pic related like you aren't totally mentally ill

>>107519903
y-yeah
its useless trash created out of a faulty understanding of what computing is
its literally:
a retardation of the actual thing bc maffbois have a big ego

and so instead of adjusting the theory to reality
they try to fit reality to their theory

lisp
is
born
of
anti-
science

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>>107519900
yes, a proper Result with a dedicated error struct containing the op that is not recognized
what a wonderful pattern, it's definitely not like the context of the operation that failed can be captured by the caller
>asserting equality with Ok(value)
asckshually, you should probably use `assert!(matches!(...))`
but pic related

>>107519947
if caller knew the context then callee wouldn't need to validate wrong values, you're simply a retarded nocoder

>>107519886
Probably need less desu. Do you already understand concepts like variables, functions, control flow, and the basics of how a program executes instructions? If so, just K&R and learnxinyminutes

>>107519926 cont
>inb4 kvetching
>and tranoid retards
>who are actually niggers

if your theory is complete,
how come you cannot formally proof c?
c is what gets done
it is what it is. its being used so empirically, you just should shut the fuck up you fucking nigger

but no
>fit computing to our model because were FUCKING retarded
kill autists.
fucking bully them
and bully whoever thought its a good idea to even talk to autists

>>107519954
the callee should not be recreating the match you fucking retard

I'm beginning to think there's multiple shit flavored dick enjoyers itt

>>107519974
caller*

>>107519985
you sound like a seething autist
youre the inferior, DOE

>>107519925
imagine unironically not being able to do generic base X to base Y conversions on sequences

>>107519995
You're a mean jerk who smells shitty dicks like a fine cigar before smoking them

>>107520039
>mean
>jerk
>downgrading the insanity
you dont belong here
go back to your tranycord

This whole thread? Every single post?
All samefagged by me.

>>107520074
I don't even know some of the words you use. Is this the power of rust?

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>>107520123
no, its the power of not being generation cocomelon
aka
spawncamped @ birth by your own parents

>>107520136
Just say you are communist and be done with it.

>>107520136
>picrel
correlation doesn't equal causation

>>107520170
>communist is when you care about children well being
unironically that was shocking to me
like wtf are you even saying

i mean, i can composure myself
but still
what the fuck are you even saying?
think about it
i know it hurts to think, when one is you
but actually think about it
>how is caring about children well being- communist?

>>107516941
>https://learnxinyminutes.com/c/
the syntax seems nice, but how do I

import solution

?

>>107520240
usecase?

>>107520240
What do you think this is? Python? In C you build your own solution.

>>107520240
You will have to play with linker for that.

>>107520170
>>107520207
in case youre still thinking-
caring about children well being is human
its what we do as humans
its not attached to any political ideology because its predicated on biological impreatives

>>107520319
I don't know what you are even trying to say i just assumed you are commie based on your speech and words you are using.

>>107516938
I don't understand the anime pictures. Like are you a 12 yo child from Japan?

>>107520331
maybe read it again
in a rational way investing in future generations' success is what guarantees our own comfort
in the most cold way
otherwise, for me its just an instinct to be mindful of children
one which i dont intend deleting bc its useful
especially in the numbers game sense

even from a cold perspective we should facilitate/enhance our successors' success
only if its to have a pool of resources to predate upon
i dont think that way, btw
children = sacred, and i dont need a reason.
full instinctual on that matter, and i see no reason to change that

>>107516263
It depends what you're doing. It's great for embedded systems, breddy gud for numeric work, and yet painful for strings (once you get beyond the absolute basics).

>>107520136
I think you're just very angry because you can sense how little I care about you or anything you've said or the thread in general. You can tell im just have some fun while other stuff and it's killing you.

>>107519569
>doesn't work when "the_type" is more than one word, like signed char, long long, or unsigned long
>Ctrannies aren't smart enough to even notice that

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>>107520374
They are cute

>>107520445
i dont care about your opinion though
theres nuances to things, bc that doesnt mean mine is void either
or yours
its just that in a contest of ideas the best win
and thats what i like about 4 keks

have a go at it
but youre being angry bc youre being called a retard
for being actually retarded

>>107519753
Is rust allergic to keywords? Why use _ instead of a real word?

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>>107520374

>>107520465
What ideas? Lol. Itt thread. I recommended a book, called you (I presume a shit dick lover), and I've both pretended to be, and have actually been on multiple occasions, a retarded person for fun and profit.

Was someone in this thread typing out something worth reading? I missed it.

>>107520505
i dont read books, i read code
recommend me a repo if you want to get my attention

but also
you didnt post code yet
ever
so why should i pay attention to what youre saying to begin with?

>>107520527
>u didnt post code yet
>ever

print("hello, gayman!")

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>string manipulation

This kills the C programmer.

>>107520553
thats python :/
why do you speak of c-like then?

>>107520560
Yer fancy python strings are really 3 different c structs banging each other in the bum

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>>107520560
its ez
why would that be a problem?
did you get filtered?

>>107520563
Eh... lots typing while im fonefaggin

int main(void)
{
    printf("hello, gayman!\n");
}

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>>107520589
I challenge anyone to find a more retarded idea than null-terminated strings.

>zoomershits cant into industry
thats good
it provides a healthy supply of whores willing to sell THICC ass in exchange of food and services
THIGHT zoomette ass

>>107520612
When you're working with literal bytes on metal, it's either stuffing everything into a convoluted slow and memory intensive struct that tracks a ton of shit, or keep it small simple and fast with a sentinel value.

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>>107520612
>hurr durr
if you use c its to roll out your own solution
>>107518305
this is my code
i did that exactly bc i needed a custom solution
in fact
something like 50% of my code needs custom solutions

also:
i dont even check for null termination. kindof
i overallocate elsewhere, so im guaranteed i wont buffer overflow. so what i actually check for is a continuity of numbers
anyhoo

the point is:
you can do black magic with c
and basically, youre justified to use c if for your usecase you do better than the libc, basically
thats why its turboshit
bc nobody uses it, nobody cares
thats not why we use C
we use c exactly BECAUSE we need custom solutions
and we love it BECAUSE it doesnt get in the way
and also embedded but i program for an arduino rn so i cant tell much about that

>>107519926
>its useless trash created out of a faulty understanding of what computing is
Except Lispchads actually built computers and Ctrannies never did. C was always poorly retrofit to run on existing computers that were designed for other languages such as Fortran, Algol, Pascal, PL/I, and COBOL.

>lisp
>is
>born
>of
>anti-
>science
Lispchads actually do science and built computers. Ctrannies don't even know how to do that.

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>and also embedded but i program for an arduino rn so i cant tell much about that
i still do it in c all the way
bc its powerful
bc if i need i can integrate ***easily it into high performance computation like CV
and also bc muh dik, and i have too much of it
it just doenst fit anywhere
i barely can contian it in my pants

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>>107520722
sounds like cope.

>>107520723
What do you want to say to them people that think the moon don't exist?

>>107520734
they should program in c instead of wasting their lives on futile pursuits

>>107519970
>if your theory is complete,
>how come you cannot formally proof c?
You can formally prove x86, ARM, or any other CPU instruction set. C is just a pile of shit on top of millions of lines of code that has nothing to do with how computers work. What you are saying is like saying that English grammar and spelling don't exist because (You)r posts aren't grammatically correct English.

>>107520746
wen moon

>>107520751
>we just got btfod by c
thank you very much
no survivors btw
complete trainwreck
only widows wailing, and cinderheads

>>107520754
wen you get there
dont count on me
im a fuckup

>>107520754
>>107520761
i-i still can post about c
i will
but dont count on me

>>107520759
Imagine someone made fart noises and wanted you to translate what they mean for them. Obviously you can't do it because the fart noises don't mean anything. That's what formally proving C is like.

>>107520796
no, it means your model sucks and youre a fraud, actually

>>107520802
C is not defined by anything. Each compiler developer makes up what they think it means. The "standard" is useless. Real languages don't have that problem. You can formally prove what GCC on x86 means because you can interpret the x86 assembly, which has a meaning, but you can't formally prove C.

>>107520796
>>107520802 cont
this also means you cant model asm either because you can completely translate c into asm. kinda obviously

youre a fraud because you dont even understand the basics of what youre working with
and such are the lispnigger tranies

>>107520815
You've proved yourself an untrustworthy and false homosexual.

>>107520815
> but you can't formally prove C.
then your model is shit
stop talking. its an advice.

>>107520822
>this also means you cant model asm either because you can completely translate c into asm. kinda obviously
Each compiler's translation is different because each compiler developer has their own interpretation of what the fart noises are supposed to mean.

>>107520828
>You've proved yourself an untrustworthy and false homosexual.
You meant to say that to the creators of C.

>>107520856
>Each compiler's translation is different because each compiler developer has their own interpretation of what the fart noises are supposed to mean.
*licks lips*
yet you cant model any of them

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>be lispNIGGERS:
>come up with a faulty model
>doesnt fit for fuck bc recursiveshit and other retardation
>USE IT ANYWAYS YOU CHUD
>fail
>seethe for 30 years
the end.

>>107520874
>yet you cant model any of them
Because C has so many leaks that you need the exact instruction set and CPU model of the computer it's running on and the exact compiler source code, the exact compiler options, and the exact version of the OS and copies of each library and where each byte is in memory, and you'd still be modeling it from the machine code level. C doesn't have anything special, but it has no meaning. There's nothing hard about math operations, loops, functions, or goto. What's hard is the fact that in C, someone might add 1 to a function pointer, so you have to know what a call to the start of a function + 1 byte means, so you have to know the exact code the compiler generates and the exact instructions supported by the CPU. In assembly or machine code, that is actually much easier than C because you don't have to deal with a compiler that adds millions more lines of code to the complexity of what you are trying to understand.

>>107520961
>Because C has so many leaks that you need the exact instruction set and CPU model of the computer it's running on and the exact compiler source code, the exact compiler options,
your first line invalidates completely the approach of formally validating shit
bc either you consider the implementation
or the reality just btfos your model
youre still dancing around the central issue

bc what? lisp doent have an implementation, youre gonna tell me?
think about it
THINK, nigga, THINK!!!!

>>107520961
>>107520995
or rather yeah,
what btfos formal verification, specifically
is that c gives you direct access to the underlying hardware

but then
HOW MUCH MORE DO YOU NEED OT UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR DOGSHIT MODEL ISNT FIT FOR PURPOSE BC IT HAS FUCK ALL TO DO WITH THE UNDERLYING REALITY????

wtf, nigga
youre supposed to be the smart one here

Everyone itt but me is gay.

>>107520995
>>107521009
C can't generate all the instructions your CPU can understand. C does not have anything to do with hardware. C crippled computer design.

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>>107521771
Curious George is racist. Just because he's black doesn't mean he's retarded

>>107516938
You don't. You tell chatgpt to code it for you. Preferably a web application

>>107520374
>Like are you a 12 yo child from Japan?
He is in fact a 12 year old girl trapped in a middle aged balding White mans body
Respect her

>>107516263
>C is the most fun language.
I think you mean Lisp.
Alternatively, the most fun language is the one you create yourself.

>>107519134
just wait until they're rewritten in rust, the language of the new covenant of universal systems programming.

>>107517181
using doing fast vector allocations on the stack is based. it's not our problem that retards abuse the max stack size limit to signal for stack overflows in their shitcode.
vla types are also better than value pointer types as they hold more semantics. f(int n, int a[n]) is based and only wincucks (who are all cpptards) are convinced otherwise.

>>107516745
only because one could feasibly push C but not C++ in the fact of rust and not get laughed out of the room.

>>107517897
>he needs the website to not look like reddit to larp as if he's not on reddit
gb2r

>tfw no cute C coding gf (male) to teach me how to code low level programs
why even

>>107518374
>2025
>Classic
nigger wut

>>107519134
Just use assembly

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>>107516938
this random ass link i found on twotter was my introduction, its really good

https://usamimi.info/~suwa/ctut.htm