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https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide

>UI
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI
re/Forge/Classic/Neo: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#reforgeclassicneo
SD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/sdnext
Wan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP

>Checkpoints, LoRAs, Upscalers, & Workflows
https://civitai.com
https://civitaiarchive.com/
https://openmodeldb.info
https://openart.ai/workflows

>Tuning
https://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuning
https://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkit
https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
https://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tuner
https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts
https://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe

>Z Image Turbo
https://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image-Turbo

>WanX
https://github.com/Wan-Video/Wan2.2

>NetaYume
https://civitai.com/models/1790792?modelVersionId=2298660
https://nieta-art.feishu.cn/wiki/RY3GwpT59icIQlkWXEfcCqIMnQd

>Chroma
https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Base
https://rentry.org/mvu52t46

>Illustrious
https://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girl
https://tagexplorer.github.io/

>Misc
Local Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmeta
Share Metadata: https://catbox.moe|https://litterbox.catbox.moe/
GPU Benchmarks: https://chimolog.co/bto-gpu-stable-diffusion-specs/
Img2Prompt: https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-one
Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion
Archive: https://rentry.org/sdg-link
Bakery: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage

>Neighbors
>>>/aco/csdg
>>>/b/degen
>>>/r/realistic+parody
>>>/gif/vdg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/h/hdg
>>>/trash/slop
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/u/udg

>Local Text
>>>/g/lmg

>Maintain Thread Quality
https://rentry.org/debo
https://rentry.org/animanon
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>dragged and shot
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>>107517468
SHIT i just noticed qwen fucked up the right tit swastika STUPID STUPID STUPID

kek qwen edit barely understands what a cow pattern is i needed a good few rolls to get this right
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Blessed thread
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I've been out of the loop for 3 hours, has base been released?
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i see how it is mr baker
i see how it is
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>>107517519
>best way I can describe using comfyui moving forward is like sitting on a 12" dildo leaving it in and saying "fuck it, I'm gay now" instead of pulling it out with some dignity and saying "what's the next steps"
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>>107517471
this isn't a calm and reasonable thread with drama in the bake. more like a hostage situation and we are the hostages
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>>107517538
kys trani
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>>107517540
>tRan bake
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>>107517454
Yeah I do that already, I use so many different checkpoints for i2i/inpaint. Very potent.

>>107517466
I feel that it does something different.
sdxl > latent reencode, then full zit.
The reencode needs an i2i cleanup.
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>>107517565
Could be...
I've been mostly doing initial ZiT gen and then trying to generate art medium sdxl pass afterwards but that always needs manual fixes.
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mamma mia
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>>107517616
all that spaghetti for
>big breasts, cowgirl
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>>107517616
now this is enterprise level right here
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>>107517616
>spends hours of his life creating the manhattan project of workflows just to >>107517634
>meanwhile rajeesh in gradio accomplishes the exact same goal

i don't get it. also aren't there TABS in comfy? isn't that what the tabbing feature is for? Just jump to another workflow with the shit you need in it?
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>>107517653
>rajeesh in gradio
auto forks are for white men and slavs
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>>107517653
>>107517634 (me)
to be desu i spend tons of time improving my workflows, it's fun and rewarding
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>>107517687
>improving
be kind to your cpu dude
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You guys should post more cute asian girls in revealing outfits
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>Qwen Edit, bring life to this sexy flouride stared big titcow someone generated in gemini

>as you wish, 掌握

..excellent. Anyone know why Qwen Edit will randomly add this reddish/yellowish tint to the whole image? Most of my rerolls have it.
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>>107517723
>Anyone know why Qwen Edit will randomly add this reddish/yellowish tint to the whole image?
they trained it on 4o imagegen images
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>>107517616
THIS IS WHAT GRANULAR FREEDOM LOOKS LIKE!
WHY GENERATE VIDEOS OR IMAGES WHEN YOU CAN HAVE FUN BUILDING WORKFLOWS INSTEAD!
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>>107517728
wut duh. *gulps*

yeah i wouldn't be surprised given the skin isn't all there either.
i asked you to unzip the sweater you ching chong chinese dope, and stop changing the COLORS.
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>>107517730
It's not a problem as some other professional software have used node based interfaces for decades by now.
It's just the fact comfyui uses big blocks and it's from left to right, not from top -> down.
There is no clear flow and you can't just glance the setup and see what is going on.
These lego blocks are great if the setup has about 6 nodes but other than that it's unusable in the long run.
but what do I complain it will never change anything
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>>107517730
>THIS IS WHAT GRANULAR FREEDOM LOOKS LIKE!
there's elegant granular freedom and then there's ultra autism like this shit
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>>107517793
I haven't used much top down other than unreal behavior states in ai. it's usually left to right
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>>107517828
I'm not going to argue with some retard on internet.
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>>107517616
Wake me up when Comfy copies the Forge interface and the Invoke canvas. Maybe then I will overlook the grifting. Right now the only people using it are noodlers coping with manual skill issues by claiming they can not gen good images without downloading just one more noode.
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>>107517715
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>>107517848
this might have been considered revealing in 1961 but it ain't cuttin it today
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>>107517861
anon she's practically naked what more do you want
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>>107517861
>this might have been considered revealing in 1961
it's still too hot for API models kek
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>>107517844
substance
ue blueprint
blender shader nodes
Autodesk material nodes
Chainner
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>>107517861
Pfft they lobotomize models just to prevent peeks like that.
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>>107517845
they can't even manage to maintain the main draw of the UI. using nodes in comfy is an awful experience
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Jesus, this llm sures loved to yap.
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>>107517894
Get employed first and stop using this hobbyist trash.
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>>107517915
((thinking)) models are the pseuds of the llm world, they love the sound of their own 1s and 0s. I don't know how people stand it when they want to ERP, it's thousands of tokens wasted on looping logic and "so i should actually make the character sound like this but the character is doing this.."
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>>107517915
>amateur photo with a flash
>generates professional cinematic hd movie still frame
i dream of the day these models actually listen
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Small update looking into twinflow no one cares about

I'm going to try to apply Twinflow to Pixart-Sigma since it's small, even smaller than SD 1.5 and can 100% fit on consumer cards, even a 3060 12GB can do it

The 7900 xtx (inb4) i had chilling at my desk was flashed with 6900xt bios for whatever reason so drivers can't install and it's not my team's card so I can't flash the vbios to fix this. I asked my colleague and he can get me a 7900xtx by Monday which kinda sucks because I was looking forward to attempting a training run over the weekend

You can pause training so I guess I can do it at home on my 5070ti. If AMD is a non starter and training is straightforward on Nvidia, at the very least I can twinflow SD 1.5 and pixart sigma for fun and learning

Around mid to late January my team will be getting some 32GB AI9700 cards so I could probably make a twinflow of wan1.3b but like who cares..
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>>107517941
yeah it's not the llm's fault it's Z-image turbo's fault, the translated prompt shows this
>. Overall color saturation is low with a subtle faded effect, simulating the vintage texture of film photography. Lighting conditions feature **a blend of ambient night light and camera flash illumination**. The primary light source is the camera flash, creating bright highlights concentrated on the female snowboarder's body and her snowboard.
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>>107517845
Comfy is gimped regarding UI UX because SwarmUI already fills that role and Krita handles the advanced canvas work, don't know about the Krita dev but the Swarm dev is tight with ComfyAnon. If Comfy tries to make the UI accessible he would be stepping on Swarm's toes and since they are friends I doubt what you are proposing is going to happen.
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>>107517951
Based Pixart sexual
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>>107517951
Thank you for your service

> my team
wait what who are you?
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>>107517933
yeah but without the thinking part those llms don't listen to my orders on the system prompts, you can hide the thinking part, the annoying thing is that it makes shit longer since they have to output an additional 1000+ tokens
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>>107517915
oh that's nice!
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>>107517961
comfy said in the interview to use the krita app instead of using comfy
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>>107518005
Do people really use ski poles on a snowboard?
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>>107518005
holy yap!
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>>107517973
>wait what who are you?
No one important, and by "my team" of course I'm not referring to me as the leader of anything. I just have access to some compute right now sitting around idle because it's that time of the year when you run out of new work because vendors are all already checked out

>>107517969
It's literally just the model size fitting into the vram. I think the largest model a "consumer" can reasonably twinflow themselves is like WAN2.2-5B if they have 4x5090

most of our boards only have one pcie slot since they're either ITX or dev boards so I probably won't be able to multigpu at work unfortunately otherwise I would immediately try wan 1.3b with 2x7900xtx
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>civitai filters certain loras out if you have X or XXX ratings enabled
>civitai filters certain loras out if you have X or XXX ratings disabled
why
any way to view them all at once?
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>>107517951
>Small update looking into twinflow no one cares about
I actually care a lot about twinflow, since it's a better step distilled method than what was used on lightvx and Z-image turbo
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>>107517915
Which repo are you using for this? The ComfyUI-Prompt-Manager I found doesn't have the fields to allocate vram offloading and enable reasoning
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>>107518005
>A four-panel manga depicting Hatsune Miku at Disneyland, where she does all sorts of things.
that was it that was the original prompt lul
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>>107518102
Oh, I see it's from a PR
https://github.com/FranckyB/ComfyUI-Prompt-Manager/pull/3
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>>107518102
it's from a custom fork
https://github.com/BigStationW/ComfyUI-Prompt-Manager/tree/PR
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>>107518060
We're not *certain *it's better yet since we just have one implementation for Qwen-Image and we only have one chart of numbers.

However, it is certainly cheaper for training, so much cheaper that even if it's worse somehow it's still relevant. Uses 3x less vram than lightx2v's DMD methods
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>>107517616
I see, this is what AI revolution looks like.
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>>107518046
god i need a job like yours
not that i'm not happy with my at home compute but holy shit the things you can get up to with that kind of hardware..
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>>107518053
no idea why it does this, I also wish I could block "generation only" models. if I wanted on site generation only I would fucking use a better model. we need a new civitai this site just slowly gets worse and more bloated.
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/(?<!\w)base(?!\w)/i;boards:g
/(?<!\w)base-model(?!\w)/i;boards:g
/(?<!\w)z-image base(?!\w)/i;boards:g

yeah i think it's time. it's confirmed to be cancelled and i'm tired of seeing people baiting about it. it's a real shame but lets accept reality and move on. i dont want to see any more spam about it.
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>>107517887
Seedream gives me nipples unprompted. It yearns to be lewd.
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>>107518213
wow he's literally me
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>>107517848
built for....
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>>107518274
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>>107518244
>it's confirmed to be cancelled
yeah I've seen the tweet about it :(
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>>107517845
This place isn't for you, and you know it.
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>>107517915
>>107518005
Are these models censored? I wanna produce smut but I don't want it to reject anything
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>>107518339
you can go for an uncensored llm
https://huggingface.co/mradermacher/Josiefied-Qwen3-8B-abliterated-v1-GGUF
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>>107518339
Depends on the level of smut. Chroma has been trained on porn
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>>107518335
coal
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>>107518174
>holy shit the things you can get up to with that kind of hardware..
it's just the time of the year that allows me to have free compute right now, otherwise the GPUs would always be up to something work-related.

When things pick up by March it'll be basically impossible to guarantee I'll have continued uninterrupted power-on access to a particular piece of hardware for more than 36 hours which is obviously not ideal if you want to do multiple day training runs. But since training is fundamentally "pausable" maybe this won't matter as much as I think it will
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>>107518345
nta but I believe he is talking about the prompt enhancement LLMs
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abby shaprio sucking every last bit of semen out of my cock as i grope her gigantic breasts
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>>107518393
she's ugly, I'll never understand anons obsessed with her, seems to be a 4chan thing only too
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>>107518393
nah, i'm sucking all the milk out of her boobs. she's gonna be flat by the time you get to her
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>>107518424
if you don't get it now, you'll never get it.

>>107518393
>>107518425
FELLAS, the milk truck is big enough for the whole GANG.
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>>107518339
I just use Gemini 3 pro. Heh.
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Sex gifs
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>>107518489
that's pretty much exactly why i'm into her. its almost like funny revenge against ((ben shapiro)) to wank to his sister.

and yes do not inseminate jewish women, the boys will come out pre-circumcised.
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not having sex for over a decade is worse than being a virgin because you know what youre missing out on which is why i constantly fantasize about impregnating celebrities
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>>107518515
For me I don't really care about Ben more than any other right wing grifter lolcow, I just like Jewish girls because they're the last princesses left, at least slightly. They are the only white-passing group of females left that genuinely believe they are better than others, and they're not degenerate (Jewish American princesses are basically dead though, they're all tattooed and self-hating, Israelis aren't much better but still a little better) like other white women and value education and family.

Even Sex in the City acknowledged this (with a bratty 13 year old who insisted she was an adult because she had her bat mitzvah no less) back when you could acknowledge things like these in the 90s
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>>107518540
Please change the prompt of this bot. Getting bored with the spam.
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>>107518540
You can permanently escape virginity.
You can never permanently escape inceldom.
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>>107518588
If you lost your virginity you are by definition no longer celibate. Words have meaning.
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>>107518560
this
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Local Coomffusion?
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we should be talking about how a certain model isn't going to release and how cumfart should be dragged and shot
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we should be talking about how chroma can't make decent looking hands
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queue still broken btw
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>>107518560
>>107518599
fuck off i havent planted my seed in so long im going insaneo
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>real schizoid hours
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I am NOT a schizo.
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why do chromasissies keep posting pictures of black men?
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>>107518688
when louis griffins boobies get big when god makes them get bigger
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How does qwen edit perform at higher resolutions? is it doable? or do i absolutely need that node that keeps it to 1024 on one side?
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>>107518688
gen lois wearing meg's clothes and beanie
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I just started getting into ai chat bots. If I want a chatbot to create a short story about a horse monster making the acquaintance with some loli's small intestines, which one should I download? Pretty much all the models I've tried so far is censored.
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>>107518769
wrong general bub, retard containment is down the hall to the left >/lmg/
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>>107518769
>>>/g/lmg
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>>107518114
>>107518119
are these just for LLMs or can you also use a vision model with it?
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>>107518782
I think it's just to rewrite prompts so no VLM
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>>107518777
>>107518779
Thanks.
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how are you goobers always talking about LLMs and implementing it to your prompts but still end up genning 1girl, standing?

is this an inside joke, are you fucking with me?
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>>107518832
i'm fucking with your mum m8
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>>107518842
take that back
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>>107518832
synthslop prompts make synthslop. wow big shocker
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>>107518832
>still end up genning 1girl, standing
don't put me with those people anon, my 1 girl is lying (like the chinese lolololol
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SOMEOEN FINALLY MADE THE LORA
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>>107518857
that's right i'm taking her back

>>107518875
lmao
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>>107518832
How about 1girl, jumping?
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>>107517616
that thing will become conscious
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>>107518424
She has a distinct look and huge tits, also semi-celeb status, it's funny though as she is tall with an hourglass figure and Ben Shapire is a midget.
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Why is it so hard to make girls moan in wan?
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>>107518898
you need mwan
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>>107518896
I feel like she's just meh, big boobs sure but that's it, people fapping to her are just weirdly obsessed with the shapiros or jews I guess.
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>>107518925
prooompt.
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>>107518949
I don't think you need a prompt in this case.
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>>107518925
>>107518949
>>107518962
>1girl, posing, sweaty, pink leotard

ezpz
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>>107518949
1girl, squatting, sweaty, fuck you, retard
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>>107518949
I'll never share my super secret prompt!!!
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You do not deserve my prompts.
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PLANKTON! YOU'LL NEVER GET MY SECRET PROMPTULEERR
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Give me the prompt right fucking now!
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>prompting with tags
what year is this?
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its crazy that my 8gb vram make these wan 14b videos in 9 minutes. i thought i was a vramlet
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MY PROMPTS ARE TOO STRONG FOR YOU, TRAVELER!!
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This is like one of those /pol/ threads. LLM bots are spamming but no one actually cares about it.
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>>107519025
lmao

>>107519035
eh this time i think its genuinely just most of us fucking around because its noon on a thursday
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>>107519035
I really think a good part of this general doesn't realize half of it is made of bots
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>>107519025
In a perfect prompt, men like me would not exist...but this is not a pefect prompt...
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spam bot, 1girl, please, 2girl? impossible, schizo? maybe
Need a kill bill lora for illustrious.
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>>107519068
how dare you ignore my meg request
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shut UP
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shut up meg
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>>107519035
If that's true at least it's not the low effort botting this thread received previously. When it'd spam replies from old threads that didn't make sense.
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>>107517463
Thanks. Results are pretty good.
Also, one-shotted a qt-based tag manager.
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>>107519108
i think that one fucked everyone up. Even worse when it would pick a reply you know you posted at some point in a previous thread.
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>>107519025
Prompt Seller, I am going into ComfyUI, and I need your STRONGEST prompts.
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diffusion winter until 2028. who in their right mind wants to make models open source with all the bullshit happening
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>>107519108
You are admitting that most posters itt are sub 70 iq. That's a low score.
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>>107519136
>I am going into ComfyUI
lol good luck faggot. cumfart is over. dead by jeeted code
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yeah bro, comfy is dead. long live invokeAI
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I'm still using sdxl and automatic1111. I am immune to everything.
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>chroma is good for porn
no it fucking isn't. it gives everyone penises
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>>107519174
based. how is qwen and z-image on invoke btw?
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>>107519188
including making good gens aaayyoooooo
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>>107518782
>are these just for LLMs or can you also use a vision model with it?
I managed to run that vision model as a pure llm rewriter, you can't add images to it though
https://huggingface.co/unsloth/Qwen3-VL-4B-Thinking-GGUF
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>>107519197
kek, promplet
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>>107519194
i'll get back to you on that, invoke is processing my models and loras. takes about 2 business days to know what's in my folders.
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>>107519193
>explicitly state that the woman has huge breasts and a vagina while giving a blowjob
>the gen gives her a huge throbbing penis and balls
i dont know why chroma does this
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>>107517091
Alright, but that is useless. Let me know once Crunchyroll does the same thing. Their model is practically useless otherwise.
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>chromasome
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>>107519248
>the gen gives her a huge throbbing penis and balls
i have a dream that future nsfw models will not be trained on degenerate futa and tranny shit so that they will forever know that a woman should never have a penis
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>>107519270
its weird because it does it fine when you prompt for vaginal sex but gives everybody a penis if the penis and vagina arent making directly making contact in your prompt.
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nah
would be fun if the logo was bigly
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Chroma is the best porn generator there is but you have to inpaint. Also getting penises in your gens is skill issue.
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It's ok guys, Miku finally found it, we're so back!
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>>107519318
>inpaint
LMAO
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>>107519193
You are retarded
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>>107518878
>SOMEOEN FINALLY MADE THE LORA
Happy for you anon

>>107518898
>Why is it so hard to make girls moan in wan?
Prompt issue. If you can make them straining in agony on the toilet then you can absolutely make them moan. Also maybe there's loras for this that may help. Unuronically try to combine concepts too like aroused + yawning

>>107519142
>who in their right mind wants to make models open source with all the bullshit happening
Nvidia has an interest in keeping AI progress going so they can justify selling their cards at ridiculous margins. This is part of the whole circular investment fuckery
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>>107519318
i will never inpaint. if the model cant understand a simple concept, then its retarded. catbox an example if you're so great
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>>107519383
>if the model cant understand a simple concept
It understands the concepts better than anything else retard, inpainting is the bad artifacts (E.G. hands or background messed up).
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>>107519383
>i will never inpaint. if the model cant understand a simple concept, then its retarded.
based
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>>107519365
>Nvidia has an interest in keeping AI progress going
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidia-reportedly-no-longer-supplying-vram-to-its-gpu-board-partners-in-response-to-memory-crunch-rumor-claims-vendors-will-only-get-the-die-forced-to-source-memory-on-their-own
not local. they are more interested in getting people hooked on data center compute. this is the circular investment fuckery
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>>107519383
I could use Photoshop and whatnot but I like to gen that's the purpose. If it's off it's off.
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not sure if anyone cares, but whatever, i published two new variants of pixel art loras for Z, this time trained on 8X scaled art for bigger pixels

https://civitai.com/models/2215515
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I'd inpaint if cumfart wasn't such a piece of dogshit and krita actually improved after 20 years
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>>107519418
They are forcing cloud 'computing' and something what Adobe imagined 10 years ago.
Buy off every piece of hardware and wait for X+X years.
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>>107519425
I haven't even tried z, yet. can I use ai-toolkit to train it?
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>>107519459
yes, ostris made a hacky "de-distilled" version of the turbo model which you can train loras against
results aren't perfect but it's the best we have for now
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>>107519425
I downloaded it but why are you advertising a discord too? Not itt but seems like you are not an individual.
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>>107519425
I liked the initial soft version, and pretty much anons posting how easily trainable it is made me finally try for the first time. Though I'm sort of failing, so, any tips? Specifically I'm trying to go for a style as well, played with the captions, it's transferred alright but I'm losing the coherence of the small details. Doing another run after throwing away lower res pics, leaving the training only at 1024px but so far doesn't look like there's much improvement.
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with pixel lora, no difference.
Well time to change subject anyway.
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>>107519478
there's 0 people on the discord currently just me, i was hoping to see if there's anyone else out there that wants to share training tips/datasets around pixel art generation but i have no idea if that's viable given the small niche

>>107519482
make sure you're training on the de-distilled model rather than using the training adapter, you will get much better results
also the preview gens from ostris might be shit because they're genned from the de-distilled model, you need to try the loras against z-turbo to get a real idea of the lora performance
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>>107519539
Oh okay, I am too paranoid. Sorry.
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>we're getting half life 3 announcement before z-image base
cant make this slop up
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>>107519553
You don't even post any gens, I can't imagine how would base announcement change your life in one way or other.
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>>107519591
>You don't even post any gens
says the nogen
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comfy should be dragged out on the street and shot
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>>107519418
>they are more interested in getting people hooked on data center compute.
nigger they don't care about that shit, they care that enterprise is real money and not some troon prompting inflation mlp vore at home. this isn't a fucking conspriracy, this is a balance sheet. ram produces are not increasing production, that's not something nvdia has control over and data centers buy data center cards and have data center support contracts.
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i made a wildcard list of 100 different lighting descriptions for z-image if anyone wants it.
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>>107519365
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>>107519539
Testing the loras normally, sorta got a grasp on how low noise/high noise/balanced in AI toolkit relate to required lora strength. Yeah, the real results show it's working better than the previews suggest but still, loses too much.
Using the v2 adapter, will try the dedistill, thanks.
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>>107519553
Has barely been two weeks since Z-Image Turbo was released

Now since you are retarded, let me explain why Z-Image Base will take a lot longer to train than Z-Image Turbo:

Z-Image Turbo was a model made only for generation, so when training it the just have to look at the output samples to see when it's done and giving great quality across a wide range of concepts.

Z-Image Base is a foundation model explicitly made for training upon, this means that in order to see how well the model works for this purpose, they need to pick snapshots while training and use those to TRAIN something else on and then check the output of those TRAINED models to see if it works well for a wide range of training concepts.

This of course is a lot more complex and time consuming, hence it will take a lot longer time to finish than training a mere image generation model.
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>>107519689
>Using the v2 adapter, will try the dedistill, thanks.
yeah definitely do try, i was ready to give up on z-image lora training until the de-diistill came along and then started getting better results
idk if it's true for all kind of stuff cause i only train pixel art but i would assume so
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>>107519640
Thanks Anon
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>>107519678
NOOOO
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>>107519701
why did they distill (turbo) from an unfinished base model though? turbo would've been better if base was finished
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>>107519640
Why is it not organized in any meaningful way?
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>>107519701
Don't waste time with these people they haven't even read the Z-Image paper. Everyone crying for base right now is basically asking for the model that is the leftmost column in picrel to be released.
Notice how slopped it is before distillation, if they'd release it in that state, it'd be more DoA than Flux 2.
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>>107519727
https://pastebin.com/9udkvt1i

for you
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>>107519711
No problem
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>>107519754
Thanks honey. Thanks for doing this.
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>>107519747
>Notice how slopped it is before distillation
since when distillation unslops a model?
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>>107519724
The base model used for Turbo was not made for training, it was just made to output high quality aesthetically pleasing images on which to train the Z-Image Turbo model, also known as distillation.

They knew a Base model made for training would take a lot more time and they wanted to show off Z-Image Turbo.
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>>107519774
It's all explained in the paper
https://www.arxiv.org/pdf/2511.22699
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>>107519701
chat is this true
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>>107519784
no it's cope
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>>107519780
>The base model used for Turbo was not made for training, it was just made to output high quality aesthetically pleasing images
my point is that turbo would've been better and more aesthetically pleasing with a finished base model rather than an unfinished one
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>>107519701
zit was distilled from the base model which is 90% done training.
guidance distillation.
I don't know why but most of the people are not even posting any images - eg. they don't need the turbo model for anything either...
Base is not finished and will or won't be released after 3 months from now.
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>>107519811
>and more aesthetically pleasing with a finished base model rather than an unfinished one
Why ?
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>>107519822
ZiT is like SDXL 0.9.
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>>107519822
>Base is not finished and will or won't be released after 3 months from now.
this nigga still believes it'll be released lmao
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The existence of a distilled model means there exists an un-distilled model. You don't have it because you simply do not understand.
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>>107519836
are you retarded or something, turbo learned from the base teacher, if base was finished it would've been a better teacher for turbo, do you know how distillation even?
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>>107519841
he missed last week's lecture on Chinese culture
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>>107519841
>>107519845
Bots don't need any models. Maybe change your prompt and go pester twitter or something. This is 4chan. It's a dead end.
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>>107519822
>zit was distilled from the base model
From A base model, a base model not made for training but for generating good looking images, particularly photos which is what Turbo specifically targeted

>Base is not finished and will or won't be released after 3 months from now.
I bet it will be released this month. A base model specifically made for further finetuning takes more time since testing takes a lot more time, but Alibaba has tons of compute.
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>>107519867
>Bots don't need
>go pester twitter
twitter? you mean the site with the most bots ever?
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>>107519872
>I bet it will be released this month.
i wish this was a thing on polymarket so i could bet my life savings on "not released"
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>>107519872
>>107519879
What do you mean?
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>>107519889
lmaoo
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>>107519701
>>107519747
>>107519783
>It's all explained in the paper
Pretty obvious that someone needs to make a rentry explaining all this shit to nocoders. Not gonna be me though
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>>107519851
A 'base' model only means that it is a base for something. The base model used to distill Turbo was made to generate high quality aesthetically pleasing images primarily for photography, so they generated a shit ton of images using that particular base model and cherry-picked the best images according to their taste and used those to train Z-Image Turbo.

This base model is NOT the same as a base model made for training upon, very different criteria. A base model made to train upon should know a TON but not have bias towards some aesthetic, basically 'jack-of-all-trades master of none'
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>>107519747
>Everyone crying for base right now is basically asking for the model that is the leftmost column in picrel to be released.
kek that was me at one point and now i feel retarded. ty for postin
pretty sure lodestonetroon begged for it at well unsurprisingly
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Whatever happens, hurry the fuck up. I need a new anime model. NetaYume is trash.
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>>107519924
desu Z-image turbo is pretty good at a lot of things, it's way more versatile than flux or qwen image ironically
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>two of the best loras are fighting each other. its so sad
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>>107519948
it's a fun and free model, has limitations like no seed variance and stuff but i'm happy we got what we got
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>>107519637
that is what I meant, I fail to see how I am "wrong" or a "nigger"
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And here's 150 female outfit wildcards. I havent checked them all, but they should range between fully covered to nothing but pasties. And they should not be describing her physical features so that they wont morph whatever character lora you're using.

plain list: https://pastebin.com/LyHLLgFP
wildcard format: https://pastebin.com/tQaA6kDE
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guys? I got a call from a glowie and I have to show up to explain what I've been genning in comfyui. beware cumfart glows. hoping I don't lose my green card
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>>107519994
sounds pretty uncomfortable
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>>107520011
>pretty uncomfortable
pretty unComfy
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https://r
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>>107519994
I wish this was true.
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>>107520026
this
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Is there an uncensored version of qwen-image-edit?
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>>107520026
I wish it was real and it happened to you
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>3 hours of sph wan videos queued
guess im not playin any vidya tonight T_T
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>>107519984
Thanks.
I just use single word descriptions, they are pretty much the same.
More words don't make the image model any better.
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>>107520052
my bet is it will crash an hour and a half later while you are sleeping
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>>107520056
>More words don't make the image model any better.
it definitely does with z-image in my experience
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>>107520046
Keep wishing, I'm American and I don't gen CSAM nor anime.
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>>107520063
If the original prompt is lacking, sure.
Most normal people are not using that many descriptions.
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>>107520075
>Most normal people are not using that many descriptions.
you're not talking to a human though, you're talking to an AI, and it's been trained with long ass prompts, it likes that
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>>107520088
Prove it.
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>>107520056
>More words don't make the image model any better.
that's a claim, you now have the burden of proof
>>107520095
>Prove it.
I'm not taking your burden, thank you
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>>107520066
>I'm American
jail for abby shapiro nudes
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>>107520108
So you are lying and emphasing on hearsay.
Just one comparative gen.
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>>107520122
>please take my burden of proof
nah
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>>107520118
Nope, can't send me to jail for genning Family Guy porn... yet.
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bros, what if it was real? we already have mountains of proof cumfart spies on you already. why wouldn't the feds swing by and see if you are making compliant inages
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>>107520063
>in my experience
Don't even need that just look at the prompts in the paper
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>>107520122
>Just one comparative gen.
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>>107520145
that is only permissable with oai approved models
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>>107520133
You are the reason why this general shouldn't even exist.
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>>107520193
What do you mean?
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>>107520161
Oh wow you must be a magician! What if your original prompt had more work put to it...
But you are sub 80 iq retard and want to rely on a llm.
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>>107520161
left:
>soulful focus on a beautiful pizza
>eager hands diving in for a satisfying slice
right:
>soulless plastic slop
>boring corpo slogans
>phantom slices thrown around with abandon
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>>107520161
that doesn't prove that long prompt > short prompt, it just proves that good prompt > shitty prompt
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>>107520208
why are you using an AI to draw anime in the first place? you could do that by yourself with a pencil, are you a sub 80 iq retard or something?
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>>107520201
I mean that everything what you post is shit and this general should not even exist.
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more grids? more grids

https://files.catbox.moe/k14mwi.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/ck01mz.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/mmkbgp.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/ck01mz.jpg
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>>107520220
What do you mean?
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>>107520219
Change LLM at this point. It is really repetitive and dumb.
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>>107520241
Concession Accepted.
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do i smell a stinky in progress
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>>107520219
lack of skill and vision+impatience
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>>107520217
how is that shitty, it's straight to the point, you give that short prompt to any human and they understand what must be done
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Z implementation for OneTrainer when!?!
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>>107520281
2 more weeks, in the meantime endure the AI toolkit humiliation ritual
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fug i didnt notice the middle one has no legs
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>>107520275
it's not straightforward at all, there are a million ways to interpret it
what the fuck does "celebrating pizza" even mean. sounds like some made up american holiday
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>>107520305
I can't take it. Please do the needful OneTrainer man.
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>>107520266
just letting my cumfart air out. it's been a few days so it's stinky
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>>107520222
>photographers
how did you do these? same seed? how did you prompt them?
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>>107520321
he'd need to use ostris de-distilled version anyway, and idk if he's willing to take that humiliation
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>>107520336
mama
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>>107520345
You can train on regular turbo with the adapter just fine tho
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>>107520366
adaptor gives way worse results than training on de-distilled from experience
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>>107520336
>>107520352
WhoaaOooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWhoahohaHOHAMAMAMAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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how to I build my own gpu guys
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>>107520345
God damn this open source thing is like never ending cock and ball torture. My screaming wont matter since I am the last part of human centipede. I'm so fucking tired of these half assed trainers that are missing half of the useful features.
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and here are 150 different backgrounds. some are kinda weird, and they describe the lighting of the location as well, which makes me unsure how well they'll do together with the lighting wildcards.

list: https://pastebin.com/a7ek4bLS
wildcard: https://pastebin.com/wVmF1At4
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>>107520330
>a photo of a 25yo woman, dirty blonde hair, in the style of [photographer]
same seed, so the ones that look similar could just be prompt variance and the model has no clue
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>>107520383
>I'm so fucking tired of these half assed trainers that are missing half of the useful features.
that's all the diffusion software
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>>107520345
as long as I can just drop the diffuser and encoder into a folder and just tell the trainer the path I'm good, fuck AI shitkit
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>>107520433
I don't want to hurt anymore. I'm tired boss
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Genuine Question: What LLM is best for Image Generations?
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>A four-panel manga with four portraits of an anime girl trying out different hairdos. In the upper-left corner, she has a boy cut hairdo, and is holding a sign that says "boy cut". In the upper-right corner, she has a pixie cut hairdo, and is holding a sign that says "pixie cut". In the lower-left corner, she has a bobcut hairdo and is holding a sign that says "bobcut". In the lower-right, she has short hair and is holding a sign that says "short hair".
Okay, this genuinely impresses me. But in other contexts, it feels like "bobcut" and "short hair" tend to come out shoulder-length, while "pixie cut" and "boy cut" come out chin-length, and any shorter on a girl is nigh impossible. The same holds for photorealistic girls. I've tried "very extremely super short hair" and it still comes out shoulder-length. Haven't tried
>prompt a boy
>call it a girl
yet though.
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https://github.com/intelligencedev/PromptForge
this is pretty cool
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>>107520452
Photorealistic version, for comparison. In both versions, "short hair" has some variety depending on seed. One time it came out boy-length too.
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>>107520281
It works well and you can use it now if you want to: https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer/pull/1195

Still going through testing before they merge it, I'd guess it will be merged this weekend
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>>107520452
shaved is super short, and bald is bald
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>>107520414
Based, makes me nostalgic for the PS1
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imagine. civitai, but it's curated
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>>107518878
Korean men will hate this
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>>107520414
Really captures the style, what was the prompt kind anon ?
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>>107520452
Needs more adjectives and more cleaning up.
>Four-panel manga with four portraits:
>upper-left corner: she has a short boy haircut, and is holding a sign that says "boy cut".
>upper-right corner: she has a pixie haircut, and is holding a sign that says "pixie cut".
>lower-left corner: she has a bobcut haircut and is holding a sign that says "bobcut"
>lower-right corner: she has short buzz haircut and is holding a sign that says "short hair".
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>>107520519
thanks, the ps1 is goated
>>107520545
>what was the prompt kind anon ?
>A render from a PlayStation 1 game, featuring low-resolution, pixelated 3D graphics typical of the late 1990s. The visual style includes retro polygonal models with simplified textures, flat shading, and slightly jagged edges, all rendered with the limited color depth and resolution of the era. The environment is modest and minimally detailed, consistent with the hardware capabilities of the PlayStation 1, and the image has a subtle CRT-style blur effect. In this scene we can see:
>A fighting video game. On the left side stands Hatsune Miku, in her classic teal twin-tails and futuristic outfit, striking an energetic battle pose. On the right looms a massive, glowing white hand — oversized compared to Miku — with a semi-transparent, ethereal texture, resembling a boss character. The background is a stylized, high-tech arena with holographic lights and futuristic architecture. A dynamic, colorful game UI overlays the screen: character health bars at the top, a combo counter on the side, and ability icons at the bottom. The scene is filled with energy, small particle effects, and motion blur around attacks, giving a sense of fast-paced action
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>>107520565
Thanks!
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>>107520565
I haven't really tried this 'paragraph' based prompting that Z-Image reportedly prefers, have you noticed a quality increase versus just the usual 'blurb' ?
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>>107520510
What have I done...?
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>>107520597
let's say that it listens to your prompt more often if you emphasize stuff it won't do it if you say it once, it has to insist upon itself
https://youtu.be/0pnwE_Oy5WI?t=28
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>>107517616
Does it even work? Does it loop over lastframes?

i have my own little workflow that is tiny compared to that thing and does perfect long videos, just load an image, set all the prompts in one list of strings set number of iterations and at push of button i'm cooming my brains out. But I had to download a few cancerous workflows like the one you've posted in order to figure out simple things like looping over image output. I might actually share it once I've added a few minor changes.

>>107517687
Yeah I do also but I consider things that get too big to be a total waste on resources and difficult to navigate and understand.
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>>107520624
Gotcha, thanks
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>>107520614
They can also come out more cheerful, but the first gen of each was hilarious. Thanks for the tip Anon!
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>Four images with real photos of people:
>One person and she is a female.
>upper-left corner: she has a short boy haircut, and is holding a sign that says "boy cut".
>upper-right corner: she has a pixie haircut, and is holding a sign that says "pixie cut".
>lower-left corner: she has a bobcut haircut and is holding a sign that says "bobcut"
>lower-right corner: she has short buzz haircut and is holding a sign that says "short hair".
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>>107520541
>curated
By someone else? Gay
By me or based on my taste? Based
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>>107518339
you can copy any model into the gguf directory it creates in your models directory, it only provides a list of 3 models to automatically download from huggingface and yeah those models are censored. My only issue i have with it is bigger models time out a lot because there is no way to configure the server? Maybe its possible to setup llama.cpp to launch with a set of settings that automatically offload layers when its evoked.
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>>107520371
Worse in what way? Can you provide examples?
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>>107520716
You would need to understand how LLMs work.
With images you are comparing pebbles and rocks, doesn't make any sense.
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>i can literally drop any image of any character i want and get a full 1080x1920 nude shot of her, down to the art style even

qwen edit is a power i should not be wielding. with great power comes great.. cum.
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>>107520750
You are a shit troll. 24/7.
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>>107520716
so for example, here i was training on this soft pixel art dataset. left was the lora trained on the de-distilled model, way closer to what the dataset looks like and pixels align correctly
right is from the lora adapter training, same dataset, same settings, but it doesn't look like it also the pixels don't align properly
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>updates system including drivers
Now my comfyui lags like crazy when ever I'm zoomed in, ffs i hate this shit. Its actually using a lot of gpu by the looks of things.
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>>107520855
are you using browser hardware acceleration?
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>>107520855
its stopped after switch between browser tabs, wtf is this even doing?
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>>107520855
0.03.75 or whatever it is called is slow as fuck already.
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>>107520863
now you mentioned it, yes i was, I've just disabled it to see if it helps.
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>>107520867
It eats the memory of your browser's app space.
eg does not matter if you have hardware acceleration or not.
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>>107520863
disabling it seems to have helped, i get lag with typing into prompt boxes and shit, its super annoying. I was not even genning ffs.
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>>107520855
>>107520898
should be renamed to MumbaiUi
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erm limiting the fps to 20 in lite graph (lite... a joke) seems to help a little. Didn't have the problem yesterday or the day before it's only since updating my actual system.
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>>107520920
I always seem to get to that point after a few dozen gens regardless
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did base release yet?
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lmao nodes 2.0 uses the DOM instead of canvas
peak webshittery
if they were serious about performance they'd use canvas + webgl or webgpu like the guys at Figma
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>>107520969
lol
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>>107520971
but it wouldn't be "modern" nodes kek
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>>107521007
two toilets!?
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>>107521024
Brap: The musical
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>>107520971
>peak webshittery
designated
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>>107519977
>that is what I meant
it's not what you said

>I fail to see how I am "wrong" or a "nigger"
'interested in' and 'don't give a fuck' are mutually exclusive propositions.
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>>107521131
>>107521131
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>>107521007
>>107521024
Oh it's Rihanna. I was wondering who the fuck the dumpster niggress was in the first one and if some buttugly sheboon became famous (and I'm the big brown women enjoyer)

I kinda like how she looks more ethnic in the second image though
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>>107521007
>>107521024
prompt bro?



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