>here's your superior storage technology bro, way better and more reliable than spinning rust
Consider the heatsink variant if your motherboard doesn't already have a built-in SSD heatsink.
>>107520925>Consider the heatsink variantwow it's 78 now
What is the alternative then?I've had HDDs and SSDs fail on meNever going full RAID autismo
>>107521116sata ssd's instead of babysitting a 99C storage mediumand regular backups
>>107520925SSD is to make your computer fast and snappy.If you use it to store important data then you're just retarded.
>>107521173>sata ssd's insteadThey're all massively overpriced DRAM-less trash now.
>>107520925The heat isn't even my biggest gripe, honestly. It's the utter and complete failure of NVME manufacturers to build bigger than 8TB. Or to start selling 2.5 or 3.5 form factor drives with NVME cabling at major retailers.
>>107521758wallet issue
>>107521116>Never going full RAID autismo75,000 hours and counting bitch
out of the 6 SSDs i've had in over half a decade only 1 failed because of the controller. I can't even imagine using an HDD anymore lmao. Life must be wild as a schizo poorfag.
>>107522030Jew issue. Invest in gas chambers.
>>107521116WD Black 20TB. No you don't need fast loading, a chad sits and enjoys the load times. Your computer should be used for Microsoft Office, websurfing and porn anyway, games are for kids.
What is the most reliable cold storage medium that still has decent read/write speeds?So far it's looking like HDDs, and probably a warm SSD cache for those
>>107522045>Life must be wild as a schizo poorfag.i got 120TB of data on hdd'syou got like what, 3TB on ssd's?lmaoing
>>here's your superior storage technology bro, way better and more reliable than spinning rustI hope they pay you well enough....still sad.
give me back my PCI-E lanes.
>>107520925So what? If it works it works. I never had an SSD fail on me. I did had several dead HDDs. >>107522074>i got 120TB of data on hdd'sYou have hoarding problems. My whole digital life with all the photos and videos I took is like 20tb max.
>>107522059>WD BlackWD Black is their gaming hard drive line.
>>107523647I'm not sure why manufacturers push pcie-random number ssds. I don't even think I can tell my data ssds from pcie4.
>>107523647Sata connections cost pcie lanes too. They just have lower bandwidth.
>>107520925The conspiracy is pricing out RAM disks
>>107520925Not on my watch, Satan.
>>107524042That pic and this CDI shot are for my GNU+Linux install. My Windows install is on a similar NVMe and is one degree warmer since it is being used.
>>107522033retarded
not my problemmy system just workssorry you suck and are unhappy and can't get any satisfaction out of life
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>>107524042okay, I'll bite: why the screws?
>>107524527maybe further heat dissipation? if a sticker can do it...
>>107524527I was being extra careful not to snap the pcb, so I attached the metal straps(zip ties?) a tad loose and then turned the screws until it was safely snug. Here is the Windows NVMe ( 36°C/96.8°F ).
>>107524577both together
>>107524382yea bro those hdd's and their 94C temps
>>107524577nice ghetto solution my dude, but next time you might want to consider pic related for 7 bucks
>>107524602HDDs die at 50C so not sure why you need to cope with modern storage getting as hot as CPUs that don't die even at 110C
>>107524606I agree, and that would have been my first choice, but I am neet and slowly dying. I am forsaken and destitute. It was the best I could do when word was spread that Microsoft was killing NVMe with enshittification.I do own one of these:
>>107524631Do you know what temp hard drives should generally operate at before it starts becoming a problem?
>>10752467937C, not more, not less
>>107524631>HDDs die at 50Cyou clearly have not owned a laptop between 2000-2010, according to you every laptop hdd from that era when they were cooking next to a 45W cpu should have died in a week
>>107524717>45W cpumy laptop from 2009 doesn't have that
>>107524725lets see the hdd temps when you're copying files on your shitbox, should have died 20 times by now according to you
>>107524731Never above 40C kek
>>107524725Poverty issue.
>>107524742>HDD shill really wrote thatenough cope unc, SSDs won
>>107524736sure it is
>>107524748they obviously won at reaching 100C, yes
>>107524749I keep my computer and room clean and my HDDs don't sit right next to a heater so they literally never go above 40C
>>107520925>What's a heatsink
>>107524755Never happened to me.
>>107524756>keep my computer and room clean and my HDDs don't sit right next to a heater so they literally never go above 40Cyou dumb sack of shit >>107524731i meant shitbox as in laptopi said >show me the hdd temps in your 2009 laptop so much brainrot you cant even read you must be brown. my point was hdd's were cooking in laptops and were fine and now you move the goal posts like a lying tranny. fuck off nigger.
>>107524675then make do with what you have and as long as the temps are fine who the fuck cares
>>107524675>word was spread that Microsoft was killing NVMe with enshittificationWait, what?
>>107524765Fortunately thermographic cameras in professional reviews dont care about your feelings.
>>107524791My laptop's HDD temp is at 29 right now. The laptop is from 2009, HDD is new.
>>107520925unused temps are wasted temps
>>107524812The Windows 11 update that was screwing up certain SSDs a few months back. Big story at the time.
>>107524833>Windows 11fucking kek, pajeetware can't stop losing
>>107524731>lets see the hdd temps when you're copying files>>107524815>My laptop's HDD temp is at 29 right nowyou are a disingenuous mentally ill nigger and i hope you get cancer. dont @ me again.
>>107524846My HDD is full since I actually use it for storage, am I supposed to delete it to prove something to some 4cuck clown?
>>107524846>I've never had sex, the post
>>107524840>pajeetware can't stop losing>meanwhile irl Linux at 2% desktop market share since 1992yikes.
>>107524852no need, you proved both my point and that my insults were correct. enjoy your poverty.
>>107524858>Less than 10% of earth is white>According to Pareto principle, Linux users should be under 2%>Linux users are under 2%so where's the issue
>>107524864I'm enjoying my clean laptop not overheating.
>>107522022>It's the utter and complete failure of NVME manufacturers to build bigger than 8TBThey exist, you just can't afford them.
>>107524812I was worried that the NVMe were being deliberately overheated to cause failure, so I created my heatsinks. Turns out I didn't need to worry so much. I am glad I did though, because I enjoy a very cool personal computer.
>>107524888>They exist, you just can't afford themand neither can you.
>>107521758>They're all massively overpriced DRAM-less trash now.look around on the used market, I could find a PM883 7.68TB for around $350.of course that was a year ago, today the same drive is being sold for 4x the price thanks to the AI lulz.
>>107524527>okay, I'll bite: why the screws?It's there as a spacer for the straps that hold the heatsink to the board.I have no idea why he could not have used thermal glue instead though.
>>107524877>cleanhdd temp has nothing to with whatever your headcanon means by 'clean'. you must have some shitass specs.
>>107524908>thermal gluenot good for reusability, and very bad dissipation strength compared to pads in my experience
>>107524908>thermal gluenever heard of it
>>107524922You told me that HDD was frying because of CPU, so what do I care if you're a nigger who doesn't clean his entire laptop's insides and especially the heatsink that's meant to take the heat out of it? Lmao filthy dirty monkey tranimal screeching at me.
>>107524894I have 18tb ssd space in my desktop, 104tb raw storage in hdds on my NAS (which is currently being reworked to use a low power solution so I've yet to connect 4/6 of the drives, I need to get an ASM1166 and an nvme splitter for the odroid first), 16TB cold storage for backups, a 2TB drive in another machine I've yet to install anything on, and a 4TB and a 3TB I don't even remember what I have for they are just sitting on the shelves with the cold storage. I think I'm set.In fact I might just sell the 8TB PM883 if it can indeed sell for 4x the price I bought it for. Daddy wants a new monitor.
>>107524606Most people dont realize these make almost no difference if your airflow is trash. Like literally at most -3C. You're better off without one.
>>107524928It's type of gunk like the crap you put on CPUs, except heat makes it harden and act as an adhesive. It may be called thermal adhesive where you live. It's what you normally use to put crap like copper heatsinks on RAM and such.
>>107524954So fix your airflow?
>>107524930>You told me that HDD was frying because of CPUthere were tons of business laptops like Latitudes running so hot you couldnt keep them on your lap and their drives would constantly hit 60C with no issues for years and years. i still got some Compaq laptop in a closet somewhere that cooks its drive at 50+ C daily because its a shit ass drive (not a new one you retard) came with the first gens of laptops in stores that shipped with 1TB drives. i am talking original drives on old laptops.nothing got fried except your brain matter because you can barely a coherent post.
>>107524888>100TB ssd exist, you just can't afford them.>>107524944>8TB PM883so neither can you.
>>107524925>not good for reusabilitythe fuck would you reuse it for? You can't reuse thermal pads either cause they fucking crumble when you peel them off, unless it's some super thick pad which also has shit thermal dissipation.
>>107524944what do you need 122tb of porn for? are you literally epstein
>>107524968i was making a general observation you angry spic.
>>107524990I am not a nigger and take care of stuff I own so my lap was never hot from the laptop sitting on it.
>>107525048Make a day in your week to do some general cleaning in your house you filthy nigger.
>>107525007>so neither can you.Never said I can, nor that I'd want one or need one. An SSD that large would be a bitch to make backups of.>>1075250262+4+4tb nvme is for my normal desktop which has 27 years of my computer work on it, plus games. 8tb is for stuff I infrequently use (full redump sets, breach dumps, etc), it used to be on my NAS with hdds but I found a very good deal on a pm883 and I had money at the time, so I moved it to my desktop. Really wish I bought two of those drives. A 12tb is for movies, a second 12TB is for the windows file backup pool, the windows automatic system image thing, and whatever random junk I started putting in there, but like half of it is also movies by now. I should upgrade those to 20TB ones but HDD prices went up a lot and I don't really have money right now. The rest is a 4x20tb zfs z1 array which holds my stepdads computer stuff that I wanted to archive safely since he stored it in a metric fuckton of 1-2tb drives (some which barely hanged on to life). He was a far bigger movie buff than I ever will be and tried to find a copy of anything even if he just once saw it on TV. Just the other day I found all episodes of Meister Eder und sein Pumuckl in 1080p on it.>are you literally epsteinI wish.
>>107524815>The laptop is from 2009, HDD is new.the difference in temps&noise between a new 2.5" hdd from now and a hdd from that era is like night and day, you cant even compare them you brainlet.now you get a bunch of powersaving features and also firmware that throttles them extensively they cant even reach their true top speeds so they wont get hot and noisy in a ps4 or a plastic usb case.you keep getting angry comparing apples to oranges, must be a 3rd world thing.
>>107525016maybe you need to use the drive somewhere else and replace the heatsink because of a clearance issue, at that point you're fucked because you used fucking glue to hold it together
>>107524702>37C, not more, not less>Backblaze's data shows most HDDs operate well within manufacturer specs (usually up to 60°C), with typical averages around 25-35°C, but some models (like certain 12-16TB Toshibas) have lower limits (55°C). While earlier data suggested no link between temperature and failure if within spec, more recent reports indicate that drives exceeding their specific manufacturer limits are flagged and monitored, with very few actually failing immediately, highlighting that airflow and cooling are crucial for maintaining those lower thresholds, even if general heat doesn't always mean failure. >Backblaze tracks drives exceeding these limits (e.g., 354 out of 259k+ drives in Q3 2023) but finds a tiny failure rate among them, suggesting other factors (failing fans, restricted airflow) are often the root cause.>Cooling vs. Heat: While high temps aren't ideal, extreme cold (below 20°C/dew point) can also cause issues, and data suggests good airflow (25-45°C is often cited as ideal for longevity) is more important than just chasing low temps. >What This Means for You: Stay Within Specs: Aim to keep drives below their manufacturer's max (e.g., 55°C or 60°C).sorry, I trust these guys more than some jeet on 4chan.
>>107525126Or you could be not a retard and do your research on what you buy, specifically so you can avoid such problems. But I don't expect the 70IQ indian botposters on 4chan to understand what it means to plan something in advance.
>>107525176my goodness dude, you need to get laid ASAP, all that pent up rage is not good for you
>>107520925>way better and more reliable than spinning rustAmazing how you doesn't mention "speed" which was the entire reason SSDs were used. People still use tape for archives. What do you want next? Replace RAM with mechanical transisters too?
>>107525168;3 37°C is 98.6°F, the average human body temperature. I think they were 'avin' a giggle, mate.
>>107521116>he believes nvme is any different from a regular ssdnvme drives, especially big ones, have more layers of flash chips. the tradeoff is the increased risk of bit rot, as the gates which hold the data go bad after a while if not exercised properly (ie. trim). big ssd:s also suffer from this.if you want permanence, it's time to spin up the rustbucket again. (with zfs or raid)>>107522033based
>>107525115Nice cope midwit, I also have an old HDD from that era that has random read speeds under 1MB/s and can barely sustain 10MB sequential, but tell me more about the HDDs back then.It still works by the way, if it was running at 50C it would be dead, I replaced it because it's too slow and only 500GB, still works fine for cold storage.
>>107525216>if you want permanence, it's time to spin up the rustbucket again. (with zfs or raid)yeah, a zfs z1 array with 5400rpm drives is nearly as fast as a sata ssd, and one with large 7200rpm drives can nearly saturate a 10gbe connection. they are really fucking awesome.only problem is that TrueNAS is so fucking garbage because ixsystems is full of elitist cunts who think people only use it for big boy systems, so they are specifically avoiding adding useful shit like aspm compatible kernel that could halve the system power usage.
>>107525229>500GB drive doing 10MB sequential readyeeeah, even if it's a 2.5" drive, something is really fucked there. It should be anywhere from five to fifteen times that fast depending on model and form factor. I wouldn't trust that even with cold storage.
>>107525346>very old HDD is slow>it should be as fast as modern onesYou ok unc?
>>107525359>very old HDD is slowIf they are 2010 drives they should do anywhere from 50MB/s (2.5") to 120MB/s (3.5" 5400rpm) or even 180MB/s (3.5" 7200rpm). I have a stack of those in my other room right now. If your drive does 10MB/s then it's not slow because it's old, it's slow because it is broken. Some HDDs do in fact slow down to 3-10MB/s when they have faults.>it should be as fast as modern onesModern HDDs do up to 290MB/s.
>>107525415>up toI accept your concession, you can stop making shit up now
>>107525435stupid fucking zoomer doesn't even know how a HDD works.
>>107525482works very slow
>>107525499So it's like your brain then.
>>107521758this, it's amazing how they threw away a whole interface and form factor under the busI have an old computer around and in the end I had to get a cheap pcie adapter and plug a nvme disk in it. It works but you can't boot from it.
>>1075220744x4TB NVMe. Because why the fuck not? At the time 8TBs were like 3 times the price and I assume still are so 4s it is.HDD storage is an array of 20TB drives. What are you poor?
>CPUs can stay on 95+ for years without issueWhy wouldn't an ssd be the same? No moving parts like a hdd to get screwy from the heat.
>>107524812>>107524675This has been a thing since Windows 10, the OS does too many write operations at once which kills the lifespan of SSDs especially.
>>107526800Here is the Windows NVMe, which had W11 Home installed for the majority but is now a W10 IoT Enterprise LTSC install. It has been used since February.
>>107520925>>107521116>a wild Lexar NM790 appears in your way
>>107526988>Lexar NM790>70°C operational limitThat seems hot to me, but maybe I am not pushing my NVMe to the limits.
>>107526997It doesn't run hot. It literally consumes half the power most SSDs do.
>>107524891>believing aislop>especially when aislop is regurgitating a fake article based on one (1) redditor's claim that zero (0) people were able to reproduce
>>107524858
>>107527199Uh wrong, the ``ai slop'' is just there to summarize the situation I heard about >when word was spread that Microsoft was killing NVMeThe actual issue ( the ``aislop ) was proven to exist, it was just not overheating NVMe like I was worried it was doing.
>>107527221I wonder how many of those users are from Chiner and Poohindustan?
>>107527238>believing aislopIts "summaries" aren't even accurate and are full of hallucinations. They'll cite sources, then the link they cite has nothing to do with the claim. Subhuman.
>>107527250less than 1% of steam's traffic comes from india, they don't use computersit's showing steam language not os language, they're still using chinese
>>107520925M.2 is for laptops and toys. The desktop form factor is called U.2
>>107520925The solutions is to simply let user slow the damn thing down.We don't even need those insane speeds in normal scenarios.
>>107527344Well, I can see you are ignorant faggot. I hope you live a long time.
>>107527672>DO NOT DENIGRATE THE AI MACHINE SIRGet bent.
>>107520925Who gives a fuck it's for storing data not for shopving up your bumhole, seek jesus
>>107524042>no fanCompletely useless, it'll only reduce temperatures for a whole 5 seconds until the heatsink becomes saturated after which it'll be the same as if not using a heatsink at all
>>107527840You still don't fucking understand. Go be stupid somewhere else. >>>/pol/ >>>/b/
>>107528113>Completely useless>reduced temps by 5-10°C
>>107528184Okay, now lets see you transfer 500GB instead of idling
>>107527221the great trvthnuking
>>107528174>noooo you don't understand ai is GOOD give more money and resources to scam altman RIGHT NOW
>>107528213lol. stupid should hurt, not be blissful.
>>107527672>>107528174>>107528262What sort of faggot is an AI apologist? LMAO. You wont get any AI pussy for sticking up for it
>>107522059>>107523686
>>107522022With Crucial, SK Hynix and Samsung printing money by selling RAM, I am hopeful they’ll invest some money in the M.2 SSD form factor and we’ll see 16 TB SSD’s soon
>>107520925>PCIE5
>>107520925that's after how much load and for how long?
>>107528282Is the ``sticking up for AI'' in the thread with you right now?moran
>>107528854That is literally what you are doing you inbred 3rd world retardAnd if you're not a 3rdie you are dumber than I thought
>>107529024I see your brain damage has you stuck in a retarded non-comprehending loop of idiocy. Good luck out there, kiddo.
>>107525216Modern 3D NAND (with more vertical layers) often has better endurance than early planar NAND.Also if you buy a large TLC NVMe drive, it is usually more resilient, because: • More NAND dies better wear leveling • More overprovisioning • Lower write amplification
>>107528536fake wd_nig/g/a.png but jeet. still ok for WMIF. 10/would>>107525482>how a HDD works.stupid fucking zoomer doesn't even know how we shared files back in 90-00s when you literally must go to your friend with your fucken HDD to copy some movies\music\vidya. And it can be up to 4 friends in same room\PC due to HDD IDE controller limitations:Primary Master (first drive on the primary channel)Primary Slave (second drive on the primary channel)Secondary Master (first drive on the secondary channel)Secondary Slave (second drive on the secondary channel)
>>107529105>this post written by ChatGPT
>>107520925How come my crystaldisk temp sensor always shows 30c for mine? Are you lying to me?
>>107520925controller: doesn't matter how hot unless it gets into throttling territory (rare, if it happens, a 2$ heatsink or the one provided for free with your mobo takes care of it)nand: higher temps literally improve lifespanso hhh... yeah? there's no issue, it's just poorfag cope
>>107529224Are you wishing for AI interaction after all your hategooning? How cute.
>>107529254Apparently we have to constantly be writing 500GBs of data in order to really be using our hardware. ;^) >>107528192
>>107529254yeah nvmes only get hotter than sata drives when going over sata speeds (550 mb/s)which means there's no difference under 99.9% of use cases and makes all of this drama pointless, it's not like nvme's are less efficient or something, they're just not limited by the sata 3 interface which is the whole point.
>>107520925> Controller mad from all the datas shufflingIt's gonna blow! Get down! > Goes off like a tiny nuke> Okay a puff of smoke> Bye bye data. Bye bye. Wave to the data guys. All gone.
>>107529409Yes but you can get peak transfer speeds of 4,000Mbps for 3.2 nano seconds before it heat throttles it self like darth vader chocking a bitch. That means its better!
>>107522033Based. I’ve got 4x 14TB drives in RAID0 since June 2022. Literally nothing has happened.
>>107529156I'd want to see the body. If it's a fridge build it's a no-go
>>107529524unironically, yes?even with this exaggerated retarded example, 4 gbps for 3.2 nano seconds and 550 mb/s the rest of the time (more realistically, like a minor drop to 2/3 gb/s once throttling starts) would already be superior to 550mb/s all of the time.not sure what your point was here...this would only be a problem if it meant nvme drives performed worse than sata but they don't, ever, because again, they only heat up significantly under full load that's 100x faster than sata, which brings them down to 50x faster than sata, this is just braindead retards thinking hot = bad when in reality, hotter nand is better.and again, just get a 2$ heatsink and enjoy 5 gb/s all of the time?a point could be made if nvme were to be more expensive than sata drives but they don't, the opposite is true, buying an nvme and somehow locking it to 550 mb/s would still make you end up with a similar (probably higher) efficiency and cheaper drive, once fucking again, really no downsides, what's so hard to understand about this?
>>107520925I don't see the problem.
>>107521102>>107520925So?
>>107520925>hey this piece of hardware kinda runs hot>50 jeets seething kek
>>107530446>if nvme were to be more expensive than sata drives but they don't, the opposite is true??
>>107529254He's raping his disk with benchmarks and then complaining, actually he doesn't because that's not his image and he's just a baiting faggot you fell for
>>107530627>>107524813
>>107530627>nooo you cant just read and write data on your drive because..you just cant okay that's not how a drive is supposed to be used! use it as a boot drive nothing more!
>>107530603are you still living in 2021 or something?tlc dramless (with hmb) nvme drives (that perform slightly better in random and much better in sequential speeds compared to an high end sata tlc with dram) have been on average significantly cheaper than sata for a long time, nvme is only more expensive when looking at pointlessly high end drives (which of course doesn't make any sense to compare to a sata drive but retards still like to do that for some reason, and even then it's like the same price).back in october I got a 2 tb tlc dramless kioxia exceria plus g3 for 100€, a 2 tb bx500 (one of the shittiest dramless qlc sata drive you can buy) was 150, most high end satas aren't even available anymore (mx500/870evo are both discontinued)with current prices, a stupid pointless gen 5 nvme is only 20% more expensive than a qlc dramless sata, do i have to make more examples? don't think so
>>107530667>"reading and writing" means overwriting the whole disk every 5 minutessuredare i say it?use case?
>>107530306
>>107530446> conveniently ignores the size of heat sinks they are trying to add onto NVME's now. i guess you have never experienced heat throttling, you are being deliberately stupid, or your controllers have never started to shit the bed. I'm not sure which. Sure they are "superior" in the interface, but there are trade offs. And usually that trade off is the controller being a piece of shit.
>>107531665>conveniently ignores the size of heat sinks they are trying to add onto NVME's now. they are only big on the most high end stupidly fast gen 4-5 ssd's, and once gen 6 rolls around it won't be required for gen 4-5 anymore as the efficiency of controllers/nand is rapidly increasing, this is like saying "have you seen how big of a liquid cooler you need for the 14900k!? cpus fucking suck!makes 0 sense whatsoever.>i guess you have never experienced heat throttlingnope, i never did, my perfectly average gen 4 exceria g3 plus cannot reach speeds high enough to throttle on my gen 3 b450 board, once again, it's only an issue when you push speed to insane levels way beyond what any sata could achieve.>or your controllers have never started to shit the bedI have a pile of dead hdds and dozens of perfectly working ssd's, plus there's no theoretical reason an nvme controller should die because of reaching the totally safe within operating-range 90c temperature, have you ever fried a cpu because it got too hot? really don't think you did, you probably just had a shitty drive die for some reason and decided that correlation is causation.>there are trade offs. And usually that trade off is the controller being a piece of shit....source? this makes no sense whatsoever, an nvme drive clearly needs a much more advanced and powerful controller than the shitty qlc dramless sata it's currently competing with.you literally just pulled this one straight from your ass it's not even an argument i've ever heard anywhere in my life lol
>>107532051>and dozens of perfectly working ssd'sshould've probably made this more clear, i mean, I never had an ssd fail ever.even fucking bought a "Goldenfir" chink e-waste one from aliexpress years ago and it just werksalso never had issues with usb sticks and microsd cards which reportedly are only supposed to work for a week according to /g/i seriously wonder what the fuck you guys do with your shit to have it constantly fail
>>107532051I am not arguing whether SATA is better than NVME interfaces. We know it's faster. What you don't seem to get into your dumb head is that the reason most SSD's suck are because they have shitty controllers. There is also the issue of thermal throttling but I guess you are too spaced out to bother looking into that either. Good luck with your data.
>>107532111>What you don't seem to get into your dumb head is that the reason most SSD's suck are because they have shitty controllerssource requiredbut besides, this has literally nothing to do with this conversation anyway>There is also the issue of thermal throttling but I guess you are too spaced out to bother looking into that either.it's the thing i've been talking about for the past 3/4 posts, and i'm the one that's spacing out? jesus christ what a retard>Good luck with your data.sure because thermal throttling causes data loss, didn't know that, thanks anon!also it apparently somehow wipes all my local and offsite backup copies, scary stuff!good luck with your 0.00% failure rate indestructable bit-rot immune hard drive you've been using to store all of your shit i guess.
