>bro use Google phone to degoogle>Sure Google chips are the only ones you can do It without back Doors, trust me ;)
I own the phone in the op pic running the os in the op pic and am looking forward to upgrading to the non Google phone that will run GrapheneOS next year.
>>107524754>next yearWith TONS of luck it might get released in '27
>>107525119So should I buy a Pixel 9a for 600 Australiadollars right now?
>>107524740I'm messaging you right now through a pixel 9 with grephene os.Its a great system!
>>107525128>should i buy a shitty overpriced phone which is programmed to artificially limit the battery capacity more and more starting from 400 cycles to prevent explosions because they re-used the dogshit batteries from the 4a and 7ais this even a question? jesus christ stop buying that turd of a phone already and stop rewarding jewgle with money for making ewaste
>>107524740It's the only brand that has hardware security at ~iphone level, paired with unmatched software security. Starting at pixel 8.
>>107526833>Trust me bro Google Will never put hardware backdoorsLoooooool
>>107527785Why do you seethe about GrapheneOS daily?
>>107524740all android phones are google phones. I don't see what your point is
>>107524740proof?
>Giving money to Google in the first placeThis has to be some undercover clown stunt from them
>>107527785Why would they put a hardware backdoor if they already control the entire software stack?Would this backdoor be for routine data collection or breaking into specific targets or what?
>>107529250Judging by his social media outbursts the lead dev is basically a proto /g/tard, contrarian to a degree that it warrants being added to the next version of the DSM as an officially recognized mental illness. I'm still undecided whether the guy is just a fucking retard or one of the most dedicated trolls I've ever seen.
>>107527805He's probably french
>>107526833>pixel 8not longer an option due to latest news and inTELAVIVmossad presentation screenshots.9a is the best price\options choice BTW: P10 support addedPixel 10 Pro Fold (experimental)Pixel 10 Pro XL (experimental)Pixel 10 Pro (experimental)Pixel 10 (experimental)
>>107529678Hopefully it leaves experimental once it reaches the next release
>>107524740GrapheneOS says all phones that aren't an iPhone or Pixel are a security disaster.
>>107530164Or 'nearly' all, rather.
>>107529678What's wrong with the 8? I thought only pixels older than the 8 were less secure.
>>107524740How about you just don't use it and shut up about it you double nigger
>>107530164They are correct. Just trust the autist and excuse his occasional sperg out
>>107524740>FOSS apps are bad! Use proprietary apps instead because they are more secure!>Open source updates are bad! Use our closed source update channel instead because they are more secure!>Rooting is bad! Taking away control from the user is more secure!>Base Android code is bad! Use our custom apps written by 10 people that have never been audited instead because they are more secure!etc, I do not trust Micay and unironically trust Google more.
>>107527863No, they're not. Android is developed by more than just Google. It's FOSS. The only "Google" phones are ones that are manufactured by Google, i.e. Pixel devices. There are Android phones, tablets, TV dongles, etc you can buy that do not come with Google Play Services installed (the main Google proprietary bits -though that's not to say the OEM won't have their own proprietary firmware blobs, but that's nothing to do with Google) Not to mention almost every android phone on the market can have its bootloader unlocked so you can install a de-googled OS like Graphene
>>107530669Graphene only supports Pixels.
No phones can be trusted. Unless the wireless components can be physically removed.
>>107525128I got a 9 Pro for $900 a week ego on eBay from a seller/store based out of VIC I think it was. That was with some $50 code that was advertised on the product page at the time of purchase.
>>107527785>mediatek SoCpozed and we have proofs>qualcomm SoCwe don't know>samsumg SoC we don't know>iphonewalled-garden, apple can do whatever the fuck they want with YOUR phone remotely>phone you can unlock and sign with your own signaturegoogle pixelit's literally the only thing left, it's not like we have any choice...I would drop google hardware if there was ANY alternative but there isn't so until there is, it's the only smartphones I'll ever buy.
>>107530686They will support a phone with a high end Qualcomm SoC in 2027. Most probably from Motorola.
>>107530686>Like Graphene >Implies that it also includes, but is not limited to, other de-googled OS options such as LineageAnd the point was that not all Android phones are Google phones anyway.
>>107531329>>mediatek SoC>pozed and we have proofsmediatek cpus all allow full flash/ram rw when rebooting into DFU mode. They are technicaly unbrickable. If you want to larp as snowden they are not for you though.
>>107532410>They are technicaly unbrickable.What realistic use case does this have in a phone with non replaceable memory? Having a part that is not likely to break in the first place be extra super ultra unbreakable gives very little advantage in real world uses.
>>107532479>flash random chink rom because of distro hopping addiction>bootloader fucked up>thank god I can just hard reset it to stock
>>107524740Well we know all the other chips are backdoored, and we don't know if Google chips are.The daily FUD threads are annoying.
>>107524740all iphone SoCs had a backdoor where you had to HMAC a command using an undisclosed aes key to disable their fancy memory protection. The aes key was burned into the silicon. Someone used it in an exploit to hack kaspersky researchers, so they dissected and published it. Thankfully apple could just burn a fuse to disable that backdoor again. Weird how someone targeting russia knew about an aes key burned into silicon and weird how it was 100% defuseable so that US politicians couldn't be hacked using the same backdoors afterwards.
>>107532622It's pretty funny how many times Kaspersky foiled and exposed the NSA before the federal government banned their products completely.
>>107532622>the only way to hack an iPhone is through a highly sophisticated attack involving chaining multiple zero-days and making use of undisclosed and undocumented Apple hardware featuresI don't know if this is a point for or against iPhone security.
>>107524740Idk why people obsess over using a privatized android phones. Literally just use a mini computer that doesnt use backdoored hardware with a battery attached with like tails, whonix or qubes installed, give it a touch display and touch controls and BAM. Like seriously its not difficult whatsoever, besides the people who install graphene typically are so privacy illiterate that they dont even use tracker firewalls or browsers that anonymize fingerprints. Most of them install play services which instantly compromises your security.
>>107525828>>107526833>>107529678Can we get a graphene general?
>>107525128Buy 8 instead
