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>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
RTX 50 Super, 2026 launch? Potentially cancelled, likely q3 if still being released
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
AMD Redstone announced, RDNA4 exclusive, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbz30gJ6THY [Embed]
Micron consumer memory and storage (Crucial) is no more

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/


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>>107523168

Go lie in the bed you made.

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Why do these people need to be pitied?
DDR5 was released to PC platforms in late 2021, and memory/SSD prices crashed post-COVID lockdowns.

>>107528525
imagine the power consumption
>DDR5 was released to PC platforms in late 2021
what is this revisionism, ddr5 was unobtanium
>32gb non-ecc slop prices
lol, lmao even
>SSD prices
were already inflated

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>sold a friend a 32 gb corsair ddr 4 rgb ram set at 75 bucks early in the year
>bought it around 10-15 bucks more
>look at the prices now
lmao

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What are secret deals only (You) have access to?

I still have 2x48 6600c32 for 459€ (retail 1800€ currently) accessible

Maybe I should put in my order just to be safe
Maybe I should scalp
Aaaaah

>>107528680
Are normal/avg people even buying at that price point? I know that’s the going rate of ram lately but I feel like no one is actually buying it at that inflated price point.

>>107528537
>Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
but the luddites said the bubble will pop in 2 weeks and ram will be sold for pennies

>>107528680
Do it. I found some 3rd party seller on Amazon selling a 64GB 6000c30 kit for £490 earlier in the week. The same kit is listed for £800+ everywhere else.

>>107528589
It's not just gamers, memory shortage will screw over everyone, laptops, phones, industrial equipment, everything.

>>107528731
early builders rejoice, feels good to dab on the losers

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>>107528741
I built mine only a few weeks before prices skyrocketed.

why can't intels estrogen cores not into avx512

>>107528757
>>107528741
No no no you were supposed to wait just a couple more months for [new thing] to release, why did you build early your rig is outdated now!

>you don't need a high-performance system if you held on to that PC for this long.
Most people don't need more than Sandy Bridge and a GTX 750 Ti depending on your definition of high performance.

>>107528712
Seething tech cucks are not even bidding new price for what the kits are going for now new price
Impossible to scalp it would seem
Idk how things become later if things become even worse

>>107528714
Every yt video now is saying it will last for years, other saying it's a nothing burger and will be fixed soon
Literally every retarded has a take that it's completely opposite

>>107528726
That is still fuck high
I remember now right on bf those kits for 275€ right before the price bump

>>107528772
If I actually wanted to build I could have builded long ago
But now I'm fomoing depending on how long this will go on

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>>107528741
i got myself a single dual rank 32gb stick of ddr5 ram for $99 from local retailer after the price explode on amazon is a kingston but its only 5600 mhz and 36 cl, if the prices keep going up im not even sure i should finish the am5 build (got both the ram, psu and ram ready) or sell it and buy an oled or a 6070/5070 ti super if ii can ever resale it for $500+

>>107528841
ram, gpu, psu ready*

where do I get a PCIEKILL x8?
I might have a usecase for this.

>>107528815
>That is still fuck high
Yeah, but it's an easy £100+ selling it on eBay

>>107528714
>luddites
You don't know what that word means.

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I could have boughted a cheap dual sided ssd long ago but didnt know if it fits
Come to realize it's fits here right?

I have been using a Hyper 212 for over 10 years now.

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>>107528972
this is the new hyper 212

>>107528596
>what is this revisionism, ddr5 was unobtanium
The point is DDR5 memory is mature and the sticks were readily available & affordable between 2023 ~ September 2025

>>32gb non-ecc slop prices
>lol, lmao even
Your opinion doesn't affect these memory prices; you're insignificant.

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>>107528841
Also realistically how long should this shortage last so it would be possible for people to start paying these kind of prices in the used market, mine is brand new so i was thinking on trying to sell it to retailers instead of the market place but not sure if they would take it, so i dont get scammed

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If I'm poor and doomed to the Arc B580, what is the cheapest CPU I can get for it without causing problems in older games and without causing a lot of bottleneck ?

>>107528370
>no chance of that now
Sorry I think it was over $600 for 64gb in actuality, prolly low balled it kek. Regardless NAW DUDE DUDE NAW

>>107528993
>DDR5 memory is mature
>still runs into problems running more than 2 DIMMs
lol, lmao even
DDR5 is still a beta product
>your opinion doesn't affect these memory prices; you're insignificant
that's crazy but don't remember asking if it did

>>107529010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfqGqj2bFj8

>>107529029
Omg that's amazing

>>107529019
>DDR5 is still a beta product
This worthless opinion doesn't matter.

>>107529010
i think you'll need something like a 14400f or ryzen 8600g

Anyone used the Thermal Grizzly PhaseSheet? Igors lab said it performs the same as PTM7950 and it doesn't cost a million dollars from some shady vendor for a likely fake product. (also fuck LTT so I wont buy from their store)

https://www.microcenter.com/product/697695/PhaseSheet_PTM_Thermal_Pad_-_50x40mm

>>107529019
Threadrippers can run 4 and even 8 DIMMs just fine, at pretty high speeds even. The problem isn't DDR5 itself, but cheap memory controllers in consumer CPUs.

>>107529029
is it now closer to amd gpus when it comes to driver overhead or is more like nvidia? don't intel gpus use a hardware scheduler? like how can you fuck something like this up?

>>107529047
I used one in my current machine but the cooling setup is so overkill I can't tell if it did much (65W CPU with a cooler that can handle up to 250).

>>107529067
The Intel guy Tom Petersen said it's extremely difficult to code multithreaded GPU drivers.

>>107529081
Haha word. Yeah I am going to throw it on a 9800X3D with a 360 AIO. A large reason for using it is no need to repaste for ages realistically, although I rarely find a problem with old paste most of the time

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>>107529084
yeah but even amd has manged that.

>>107529106
AMD got nearly three decades of dGPU driver IP to work with.
Intel Arc is only their second serious attempt at a dGPU.

>>107529054
newer kits can run 4 dimm full speed on 9000 and arrow lake now

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>>107529106
And you're not being a smartass by posting 4-year-old, irrelevant videos.

ayy heres here again

>>107529176
>for cpu limited gaming

>>107529193
Yes, I post benchmarks that actually help people make purchasing decisions in 2025.

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>>107529197
>aka, not representative of practical gaming scenarios.
Do you see Counter Strike 2 pros saying they prefer Radeon drivers because of the CPU driver overhead?

>>107529222
Checked but counterstrike pros are fags and irrelevant so whatever. Most of them really are not into the hardware side of PCs and gaming in general

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>>107529222
most cs players don't stream at all. even a washed player is better then top match making players. the hardware they post on this site is most of the time outdated as fuck. most pros get pcs from their orgs which get sponsored by hardware manifcaturers. you don't see oled screens for example.

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>>107529237
Radeon cards are dogshit in CS2 anyway.

>>107529246
I look like this

>>107529246
why would they use oleds

What's the recommended way to store large amounts of media data? Internal or external HDD? SATA SSD?

HDD seems to last not as long from what people say but they don't need to run all the time, and even the internal HDD in my old PC don't seem to run (their disk whirling noise is really obvious when they do) when not in use. On the other hand SSDs cost more money per TB and is rising.

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>>107529259
lower response times? they play for millions.
>>107529257
sex god

if it's so important and millions are on the line why aren't they using them
sponsors isn't a good enough reason they can always get those sponsored to
why aren't they picking oleds

>>107529268
Depends how large
under 10TB just get SSDs
over that you need HDDs

Is the 3090 a better choice for fluid simulation and particle simulation than a 5070?

>>107529288
I don't want to spend literally over $800 for an 8TB SSD though, do some people really do that? Why?

>>107529036
you have autism, aspergers even

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>>107529281
sponsers are the reason. they give more then just hardware. they pay their salaries. there is some play room in the mice and keyboards they use but not the rest. same goes for the people that run those turnements. they don't own any of the hardware or they get a very good deal. since everyone is going to see it all the time. and you buy that crap lmao.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sY-gjvV-Og

>>107529305
2 TB is the M.2/SSD sweet spot per drive realistically, so however many you can or want to fit is a good base, but bulk media is better on platter drives. The GB/TB per dollar is just flat better and you will not see any performance difference from the end user really

t. has 40 TB of HDD storage for my media/games archive library

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>>107529328
like lmao.

>>107528531
damn my pc doesn't even have any 2hu's in it
can I get a refund?

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>>107529354

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>>107529328
Sponsorships aren't the reason why CS2 pros and TOs use GeForce cards.
Valve's PC-optimized CS2 runs better on a GeForce card.
This TechPowerUp benchmark is even giving Radeon cards a favor by running them on the newer version (better performance optimizations).

>>107529351
Does SMR vs CMR make a huge difference in your experience? Any particularly recommended drives?

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>>107529368

>>107529413
That doesn't change the fact that GeForce cards run CS2 more performantly.
Look at this retard coping. So much for MUH ENVYDIA DRIVER OVERHEAD.

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>>107529423

>>107529246
I like the one-eyed Russian who's usually screaming.

>>107529439
A 5090 is still faster than whatever Radeon card is available atm, whether the 5090 is sponsored or not.
Get your head checked.

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>>107529440

32gb of ram is so based. i can have 3 tabs of firefox open and not krash.

I'll never be able to replace my 3090 at this rate.

>>107529510
Damn when did Firefox also became memory hungry like Chrome?

>>107528967
>>107528436
I just tried cranking voltage offset all the way to -150 and then -200 thinking there is no way this should work, but once again the same benchmarks completed with the same results as -100 and -85.
Performance still scales with power limit and not with frequency limit (nor it should) but it feels like there's some hard OC/UV wall not known to driver sliders.

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Looks like this game will be out of public beta in 3 months.

>>107529530
Firefox has been both sluggish and a resource hog since forever.

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Unironically thinking about buying a prebuil instead of breaking my head trying to figure out a cheap way to build a budget PC around the b580, but most of them have GPUs with only 8gb of VRAM and that worries me

>>107529464
Like, I don't even play CS:GO/CS2 (so far), but I could watch him coach silvers for hours.

>>107529561
why do they even bother, they already sold all those millions of copies. Do they plan to turn wilds into some live service game that lasts another 10 years

>>107529300
Yes.

>>107529585
master rank expansion

>>107529585
The sales went to a crawl and it's on pace to sell less than world during it's first year.
They shat the bed and the PC performance is only showing a 5fps gain because they basically did shit modders did within the first 2 weeks the game came out.
They had the lead and blew it

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>>107529387
>Does SMR vs CMR make a huge difference in your experience?
Most drives in any size and of any type youd want to buy are CMR.

https://nascompares.com/answer/list-of-wd-cmr-and-smr-hard-drives-hdd/

I would generally recommend WD Red Pro or WD Gold drives, but price per TB is usually the biggest concern for bulk storage to a point. The Seagate Exos drives were also fine iirc. You are usually looking for 'NAS' drives

I havent looked into drive reliability in a couple years so may want to cross check with Backblaze if they still do their data dumps.

There is also serverpartdeals for refurb and other data center style OEM drives without retail packaging, usually fairly cheap and they have a warranty at least through them (their packaging is also god tier)

My primary drives in the Plex box are two 20 TB WD Red pros with a handful of other drives. I am not running a raid but I have most of my data mirrored on them for paranoia's sake since my library is so large I don't want to rebuild it

>>107529568
Nta but I recently installed Brave on my work PC (at work no I don't get remote) and disabled all the AI/crypto and holy shit it's awesome
I get dark modes, my ad blockers back, go fuck yourself Google, yes I know it's still chrome based but that's all I want
And forces YouTube to be PiP if I want as well
For a semi normie like myself (just getting too old ) it made me happy
I gave up Firefox like 9 years ago when it just became absolute ass to use with 4 add-ons and running a grease monkey fork

>>107529761
NTA but any other reading for someone who wants to venture into doing their first NAS using an old PC (after building their new PC)?

My 10 year old PC would be ideal for a NAS after I replace the fans and cooler. The case is a Lian Li V2000 -

>>107529798
>NTA but any other reading for someone who wants to venture into doing their first NAS using an old PC (after building their new PC)?
I'll be honest I haven't delved into setting up anything to automate backups or anything like that cause I'm lazy and work is a pain in my ass, but my server is also an old PC. I tend to keep shit manually backed up with a mapped drive/folder on my network and thats good enough for what I have on my PC (several local copies of anything important and a couple in various offside cloud shit-- Mega and Jewgle Drive)

IIRC Level1Techs has some good information on that on their youtube since they go over a lot of more 'home lab' things like that and self hosting

The principles of drives is generally the same though, you want high reliability drives that can take a lot of writing. Beyond that you can look into flavors of RAIDS if you want proper redundancy and then scale your drive numbers from that if you wish

I am sure another anon knows more about that side than I do

The most annoying thing anymore is finding a fucking case that can house a lot of HDDs since most of them either have 2.5" SSD shit or none due to the popularity of M.2 drives

This shit is so ass, I wish I had a PC gaming building expert best friend

>>107529510
My boomer dad runs Firefox on 8GB with more tabs open.

>>107529864
Mine too, I think it's even 8GB of DDR2 on some Core 2 Quad. Although he does use Lubuntu because he said full fat Ubuntu is now TOO fat to run on his old shitbox of a PC.

By the time I have money on early january all the RTX 5060 Ti 16GB with a decent price on Amazon will be gone (amazon is my only option) what are the chances of them restocking and maybe even lowering the prices?

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Everything is selling like crazy on Amazon, even the CPUs, I'm not gonna make it

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>>107529976
if you have a PC right now, keep it
if you don't have a PC - haswell is calling for you my impoverished brother

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>>107530013
I need to go rob a fucking bank

>>107529019
>blaming DDR5 for AyyMD shafting consumers with shit tier IMCs

>>107529849
pay me weed and maybe

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>get fomo and overspend on parts running out of supply
>overspend on parts that are not even important for performance for game perf like ram and ssd
>if wait more everything will be even more over
>spend much on parts that wont even use for now just to buy them for nothing
whatever I do I won't win

>>107529585
its a reputation thing for capcom. monster hunter is headed by the ceos son. if its not doing well it makes them look bad.

>>107530259
If they don't fix it there will be a scar on the series and they won't get normie support in the next entry.

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Everything is so fucking expensive, I think I'm gonna have to go with this setup

>>107530308
yep that's the next OP right there

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>left my haf 932 in this room and its constituent parts after several rounds of cleaning
>notice somefuckinghow some cigarette cake still on some parts
>IT STILL FUCKING SMELLS ON THE MESH
>realize my house is still probably getting contaminated by outgassing cigarette cake from those parts for over a month or two
>anxietyattackparanoiafuel.exe
HOW DO I FULLY DECONTAMINATE THIS SHIT
IS IT EVEN POSSIBLE
Is my best hope to just throw out all the plastic shit and take all the steel meshes and chassis and try to sterilize the surface in someones blast furnace and hope it burns away the cigarette cake?

>>107530389
Get a new case...

>>107530407
You got a new case that's anything like the Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced?

>>107530308
nigga made generational wealth offa this setup

>>107530389
>smoker
it's over

>>107530430
At least buy a used one on eBay, where you can return cases in fucked up condition.

>>107530430
I have that exact case in my attic.

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my new Radeon card keeps crashing on Fedora because of overuse (especially on Helldivers 2 and MHWilds).
Is there a way to prevent this? It's not overheating, i checked the stats. I dont know if it's powerdraw. The 9070 XT has 3 4x2 ports that are all properly slotted ibn. Is a 850W power supply not enough?

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is there ever a reason to cope with lower gen ssds considering the heat is becoming more and more the higher you go along with cooling?
3 vs 4 vs 5 and potential copes in not going double sided (no 8tb capacities)

all these are copes to spending less on nvme btw

most old shit is being phased out though so gen4 seems like minimum but

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>>107530539
>tips Fedora
m'esa drivers

>>107530539
provide logs:
journalctl --grep=amdgpu --dmesg

also what do you mean overuse? overuse of power? 850W PSU should be enough unless you have a threadripper in there

>>107530575
Pick the most economical & durable (TBW) option if you don't need the maximum rated speeds of the faster SSDs.

>>107530605
>transient spikes up to 600W
>blows up his 公司即将爆炸 brand "850W" 50+ plastic PSU
many such cases

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>>107530626
i don't think the 9070 XT can do that
but yeah you could be right about the chinesium PSU

>>107528232
>>107528288
As you can probably tell by my build, I haven't been keeping up with hardware in a long time. I'm just very out of the loop and haven't had a chance to really sit down and think about what I want in my next PC.

>>107528276
>>107528325
>>107529049
Thank you anons. I'll try my best to figure something out before prices get even worse.

>>107530605
This is the log just running right now, not during a game or anything
https://pastebin.com/jAxB2hTZ
>>107530626
It's a BeQuiet one. The 750W version I had before drove my 3070Ti RTX just fine.

>>107530539
linux-firmware-amdgpu was fucked for a few days on my Arch before they reverted the changes, idk what version is Fedora using. Heavy usage of CPU was crashing the GPU.

>>107530539
its your psu. double check the connectors. each 8-pin pcie should be its own plug on the psu.

>>107530466
I'm not in the USA so that might be pricey. Where I did buy this case from I probably should have returned it though.

>>107530451
>smoker
This is my first ever interaction with a smoker PC and I think it is safe to say I invited a huge fucking trojan horse into my house trying to open the box in my fucking living space no less instead of doing so outdoors first, and then trying to clean it inside of my house. It'll be fucking paranoia and anxiety fuel for the rest of my life as to how badly I might have kicked up dust or caked up my room because of it because it will be trace amounts for sure.

>>107530692
lots of these in the logs:
>REG_WAIT timeout 1us * 150000 tries - optc401_disable_crtc line:230
might help you find out what the issue is
(CRTC is an old term for display output, disable_crtc = disable_display_output, basically)

i haven't seen that line before but there was a problem with freesync that was finally fixed in linux 6.18
(the fixes were in amd-staging-drm-next for like 2 months but they finally got off their asses and merged it for 6.18)
so either try disabling freesync or see if you can update to linux 6.18
that's the only issue i've experienced with the 9070 XT, other than that it's been rock solid

>Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
kill yourself for doomposting in the op you absolute worthless subhuman nigger

>>107530721
>It'll be fucking paranoia and anxiety fuel for the rest of my life as to how badly I might have kicked up dust or caked up my room because of it because it will be trace amounts for sure.
Are you really that paranoid about the residual tar in the case? lmao

>>107530252
quit listening to retards on this board

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>>107530702
Well theres the issue. I "only" used 2 of the PCIE ports, not the PCIE5.1 port on this one (BeQuiet 850w Powerzone2). One of the cables split. Will the 5.1 be enough? I have no bloody idea what that means. I might have to raid my old PSUs cables to find one that fits because in the original box, there isnt one left that does.
Luckily, I never ever fucking throw away cables.

>>107530745
it realistically wont get better until 2027 because thats when the next wave of consumer products come.

>>107530767
>Are you really that paranoid about the residual tar in the case? lmao
Absolutely yes I am, opening that box was like fucking pandora's box with how badly it was caked in that tar and I live in a former Soviet country so I know how fucking bad it can permanently bind onto surrounding objects. I am sure some of that dust while extremely sticky (so much so even putting it in the bathtub or blasting it with a hose didn't dislodge it, much less scrubbing it with sponges of various types) could still get kicked up just by walking around it or lifting up the components. I can still smell it.

>>107530778
>I might have to raid my old PSUs cables to find one that fits because in the original box, there isnt one left that does.
>Luckily, I never ever fucking throw away cables.
Don't use old cables from a modular PSU in a different PSU, you WILL blow something up if its not the same pinout

You can usually order replacement or extra cables for them, quit being a cheapass.

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>>107530778
you unfortunately got memed by buying a nvidia focused psu. its missing the 3rd pcie for 8pin that amd uses. it would be fine it its a 2x model like asrock steel legend but 3x pin models require that extra pin or you should have got the 12vhpwr like taichi/nitro.

>>107530778
lol why buy a modern psu for radeon garbage

AMD cards can't run on modern shit go buy an old psu

>>107530721
so a used pc case

>>107530772
fomo now panic now aaaaaaaah

>>107530781
I'm tired...

>>107530803
https://www.moddiy.com/products/6656/ATX-3.1-PCIe-5.1-12V%252d2X6-12VHPWR-to-3-x-8-Pin-PCIE-Adapter-Cable.html

Or similar would work if your PSU comes with the 12V-2x6 or 12VHPWR cable

>>107530825
>AMD cards can't run on modern shit go buy an old psu
You're a retard considering there are plenty of 9070XTs using the 12V-2X6 connector

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pc building is a direct reflection of my life.... procrastinate until it's all over and then scramble to pick up the pieces last minute
or you wait out the cope cycle and accept the defeat and start a new later.. only to repeat the process

>>107530831
>>You're a retard considering there are plenty of 9070XTs using the 12V-2X6 connector
oh yeah and we all know how much people love those ITT and it's not full of people saying avoid them

didn't a 9070xt even burn down with one of those, how'd they even manage that on that lmao

>>107530826
>so a used pc case
No, I've bought many of them before and none of them were EVER as smelly and badly tarred as this one was. It would have probably made headlines on that one American guys channel who cleaned one of these HAF 932's before and does PC cleaning episodes.

>>107530853
>didn't a 9070xt even burn down with one of those, how'd they even manage that on that lmao
User error, lel.

>oh yeah and we all know how much people love those ITT and it's not full of people saying avoid them
In case you couldnt tell there are a lottttttt of dumbfucks in this thread

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My favorite thing to do now is find posts like https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/s/bAHQP4qKT2 on Reddit and expand the downvoted posts to see hilarious amdrone cope.

Contrarians are soooo retarded

>>107530252
If it makes you feel any better you're not alone.

>>107530853
Well, we can't stay on RTX 30 series forever.

>start settling in after being done with undervolting and moving over files from old build
>notice a high pitched coil whine from the power supply that only starts when the monitor goes to sleep
God damn it just let me finish for fucks sake, I bought two different power supplies in case this happened so now I have to rip that shit out and redo all the cables.

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>>107530871
These people are too dumb to realize they already paid for the upscaling and frame gen features they aren't using.

>>107530794
>>107530803
>>107530825
All of these seems untrustworthy in their own retarded way and I am growing suspicious of this thread.
Also, the old PSU is literally the previous model of the same manufacturer.

>>107530894
>Also, the old PSU is literally the previous model of the same manufacturer.
and?
your issue is you literally bought the wrong psu. you should have 3x pcie. you only have 2x pcie.

>>107530894
Your be Quiet 850W PSU is fine if it has enough PCIe 6+2 cables for the 9070 XT's 2~3 PCIe 8-pin power connections.

>>107530853
>oh yeah and we all know how much people love those ITT and it's not full of people saying avoid them
I'm gonna go ahead and take a wild guess with this one:
This thread is possibly filled with as many wrong and retarded people as the average r/atheism thread. Just different kinds and for different reasons.

>>107530894
Nigga you dont know how amps or rails work stfu.

>>107530890
Meanwhile FSR Redstone when you actually turn it on and use it

https://youtu.be/lHnm4BD64So

Even AMDUnboxed couldn't defend it. Broken shitass trash that does not work.

>>107530907
>you only have 2x pcie.
It has 3. 2 normal ones and one 5.1

>>107530894
The GPU will keep crashing because it does not have power

Those bitches draw 350W to match what the 5070ti does with 200W

>>107530916
I know how to rail ur mum in a way that amps her up

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>>107530767
>Are you really that paranoid about the residual tar in the case?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar_(tobacco_residue)#Third-hand_smoking_and_its_effects

So a glossy true black woled is the peak of the monitor right now?

>>107530938
>Third hand smoke
lol

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>>107530921
It's not your PSU's fault; they've supplied enough cables for any 9070 XT.
https://www.bequiet.com/en/powersupply/5764
https://hwbusters.com/psus/be-quiet-power-zone-2-850w-atx-v3-1-psu-review/2/
The included pigtail 2x PCIe 6+2 cable can safely deliver 300W of power by itself.

There are sad AMD + Linux brand warriors here who refuse to accept that AMD or Linux could be the source of the instability.

>>107530947
Yes, but higher peak is on the horizon, wait for CES.

>>107530947
wrong, that's IPS LCD in a well lit room

>>107530955
I got Forth hand smoke from reading that. Have some respect.

>>107530972
Not heard of this, elaborate?

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>>107530875
it doesn't haha

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>>107530850
it do be like that

>>107530993
There are no 4K 4th gen WOLED glossy monitors yet :^)

>>107530850
You guys fucking weird.
If you truly need a newer pc due to your current pc is insufficient, and it’s dire that it needs to be replaced/upgraded then just fucking do it.
If your current pc is fine with the tasks you do on it then why are you panicking about pricing and other fomo shit? When everything you are doing is working just fine on your pc.

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>>107530947
>woled
same ole slop you have been fed before but now because it has a better coating people are shilling it
people unanimously preferred qdoled before, maybe it had to do with the coatings
but it's still more color and maybe have better rendering due to subpixels or not
I mean yeah If I would have seen the them irl I could have told you
I'm not sure what I would prefer still but I might think I still even prefer qdoled idk
In darkness I don't see how it could compete
but yeah a good coating changes alot, but that's matte vs glossy

>>107531032
tandem still loses to qdoled in colors
old woled even more... but people shill it still now

>>107531049
uhm this is pc BUILDING general, not pc hardware discussion general
if you're not boughtering why are you here

>>107531049
>If your current pc is fine with the tasks you do
it's kinda not but yeah

>then why are you panicking about pricing and other fomo shit
because if shortages last to 2028 29 30 might aswell buy now for future build
and expected to get even worse
it's just prep for things getting even worse or remaining just as worse

>>107529047
they're incredibly annoying to position in place while you're putting the AIO/tower on top, no friction means they slip and slide around and crinkle super-easily.

Far more impractical than just using paste.

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What motherboard for a 9060xt 16 paired with a ryzen 5 7600? Going poorfaggot mode

>>107530957
The instruction manual said to not use 2 ports of the same forked cable. So I guess I need 3 separate cables.
PCUE5.1 doesn't seem to fit into a normal VGA 4x2 port. Or I haven't found one that does.
I have to go to the store tomorrow anyway so I can check if there is such a thing as a PCIE5.1 cable that fits.
In the meantime, I am trying to figure this instability out.
Note that the crashes never resulted in the display going black. KT was always just a crash to desktop or a freeze of the game.
And it was in the middle of doing nothing in game, too, not some super intensive stuff that turned the GPU into a tricopter trying to take off.

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I guess this confirms different manufacturers using different types of coatings on the qdoleds?
I felt like several ones might be using the exact same
this might remove some of the issues I had with another monitors glossy coating

>>107531137
ASRock B650M-H/M.2+
75 euro

>>107531176
Oh no oh no oh no oh no

>>107531161
Can we get nice glass OLEDs instead?

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>>107531176
>9070 XT is the pajeet's choice
>5070 is the white man's choice
come home white man

>>107531137
Affordable B or X class mobo with the features you want (USB, wi-fi, etc), and at least an ok power/temp setup.
What form factor, ATX, mATX, something else?

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>>107531189
Well good thing I picked up a 5070Ti recently.

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is i5 9600k the best gayman CPU with support for DDR3?

>>107531210
DDR3? Wasn’t it DDR4?

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>>107531155
>instruction manual
Which manual, the PSU or the GPU? The PSU manual overrides whatever the GPU guide says.
The GPU manufacturer assumes the worst-case scenario.
be Quiet gave you a pigtail cable so you can use all 3 of the 6+2 cable connections.
Just email be Quiet support if you can't figure this out.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240807163112/http://www.jongerow.com/PCIe/index.html
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/explorer/diy-builder/power-supply-units/individual-8-pin-vs-pigtail-connectors-for-gpus/

>>107531219
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/H310M-DS2V-DDR3-rev-10#kf

>>107531227
Wild, but damn talk about hardware bottleneck.

If I can't restore this HAF 932 Advanced and completely eliminate the reek of tar, what other options have I for a full tower or big tower these days? I need those drive bays and drive mounts, and fan mounts. Hell, I just need the features this chassis has on its own.

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>>107530894
>Also, the old PSU is literally the previous model of the same manufacturer.
That means nothing. Between generations huge brands like EVGA and Corsair change the revisions and pinouts of their modular cables. But go ahead and blow your shit up since you are so stubborn, its not my money or parts.

>>107530980
I have generational genetic trauma from 6 millionth hand smoke

These amd GPUs are for indian memes are getting to me man

>>107531090
My AIO just sits straight down on the mount studs and then gets tightened, should be rather straight forward, but I will keep it in mind. Most of the negative reviews are people that fucked it up.

Friend of mine tried one of the kryopads or whatever the graphene ones were and he had issues with it moving due to how his AIO block mounted

If I fuck it up ill just use paste, no big deal

>>107531221
It was the GPU manual.
Also, I am looking all over and very threat don't some forum I can find that talks about the 3 PCIE inputs for the 9070xt seem to agree that that "you need 3 PCIE outputs out of the PSU" only applies to low outer units.
Hell, I can't even FIND any PSUs with 3 PCIE outputs. Only 2 PCIE + PCIE5.1
So I guess I have to look into Software for the issue.
I guess I'll have to look for a GPU monitor to find the issue.

>>107531293
It's not the PSU's fault anyway
https://web.archive.org/web/20240423053154/http://jongerow.com/Common_issues/using_pigtails.html

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>>107531310
>GPU manual.
They cover their ass because they don't know the quality of the end user's PSU.
You can continue to waste your time believing your PSU is the cause of this issue.

Corsair's new PSUs also have a similar workaround for video cards that need 3x 8-pin PCIe power connections.
Email be Quiet support to clear this issue.

>>107531172
That seems pretty good, could it possibly work for a 5060ti too?

j2c says prebuilt sellers used to buy ram for $10 wholesale and are now being charges $180 wholesale on the same ram

lol it's never been more over

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>>107531381
I'm using that exact MOBO with a 9600 and 5070
ignore the RAM I got that kit for 90 euro...
I just wish the MOBO had 10Gbit USB 3.2 instead of just USB 3.2 Gen 1 (3.0 rebranded, aka. 5Gbit) but it's not a huge deal for me

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>>107531430
NO I WILL NOT IGNORE THAT

>>107531430
just buy a better motherboard with the features you want

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>>107531437
IT WAS CHEAP!!!
EU5 turned out to be ass anyways and I stopped playing it and I don't play any other CPU/RAM intensive games

>>107531430
>>107531437
What in the poorfag?

>>107531465
yeah bro let me go out and spend
>checks prices
300 to 400 euro on a 6000MT CL30 kit! great idea!

>>107531465
He got it for 90 EUR in this memory market.
A better kit that costs 200~400 EUR isn't going to 2x~4x his PC's performance.

>>107531480
>>107531487
While I get that my original statement still stands
But eh fuck it long as it works for ya, times are tough

>>107531499
I'm willing to eat a theoretical 1-15% FPS penalty because all the games I want to play run great on this at 1440p and I can always upgrade in the future if RAM prices calm down in 2-3 years and I need 64gig

>HWINFO64 v8.35, Build 5880
>Added integrated Stress Test tool.
anyone wanna betatest this?

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is this worth it
t. poorfag still using a 1050ti
for 1080p gaming

>>107531509
If you don't mind the blower noise, sure.

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Daily reminder that if (You) are going to be running the new high end high refresh 5k+ 180hz+ monitors (You) will need a AMD 7000/Nvidia 5000+ series GPU, no not to run it in native, just to be able to output the raw pixels on the desktop
older gpus deprecated, it's over
we are in a post 4k era now

>>107531509
nigga you're going from a 75W card to 250W are you sure your PSU can handle it? get a 4060 instead as it's only 115W and your PC can probably handle that

>>107529247
>those nvidia cpu results
something's fucky

>>107531519
usecase for 5k 180hz monitors?

>>107531528
appealing to some apple ppi schizos

its ips so its not actually relevant monitor to anyone

>>107531528
>usecase for 5k 180hz monitors?
Playing sven coop at 5k res

>>107531187
idk but isnt the truegloss glass at his point? not sure where the AR Coating is
also the tvs
if you peel the AR coating on Qdoleds it's glass underneath

>>107531519
is this a fucking 5k 27 incher?
have fun using this at 300% scaling in windows and everything looking like a blurry dogshit mess kek

>>107531528
reducing fringing on non standard oled subpixels
running 200% scaling for perfect scaling

>>107531536
5k qdoled dropping next year

>>107531548
200% actually for flawless 1440p scaling
>and everything looking like a blurry dogshit
ACTUALLY retarded

>>107531565
Yeah I think I'll be using my 1440p 27 incher with flawless 100% scaling thanks.

>>107531519
>hq720 (36).jpg
ironic

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>>107531519
>5k 27"
>ips
>edge lit hdr
LOL
LMAO
ROFL
get this shit out of my face nigga

>>107531580
desu I don't think I would enjoy using 1440p tier scaling at a 5k 27" display, the workspace in wangblows would be smaller than 4k which is not even that crazy, but nicer to have
32" or 42" unscaled might actually be the way
now they need to make a 32" 6k display and a 42" 8k display
it's all so tiring

>>107529300
What software do you plan to use?
Do they have a benchmark?

>>107529351
>t. has 40 TB of HDD storage for my media/games archive library
1 live copy + 1 backup ?

>>107529510
>32gb of ram is so based.
Subtle bragging.
>i can have 3 tabs of firefox open and not krash.
But can it do hardware video decoding?

>>107529528
>I'll never be able to replace my 3090 at this rate.
What games do you want to see a bump in?

>>107529849
?
Is it too much to get your head around ?

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>>107531619
it's a HINT of what will come with the up coming 5k 27" QDOLED displays
I don't advise buying that ips one

>>107531640
the first 5k qd oleds are going to be 120hz WITH dsc

>>107529902
>early jan
>5060 ti 16gb
>restock?
>lower the price?
Nvidia has other priorities, and ram chips are up in cost.
I wouldn't expect any changed to be in your favour.

>>107530252
Built a few machines over the past few years.
Still haven't played any video games.

Is it a bad idea to run a 5070 on a 550w gold PSU? Undervolted 5700x3d with 32gb of ram too.

>>107531675
yes

>>107531675
No

>>107531675
if you have money to a 5070, as in you dont live in some 3rd world hellhole why did you get a 550w psu to begin with

>>107531675
you are going to die

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>>107531646
you have no sources though
if they already have 5k 180hz scalers why would it be 120hz? unless they are not the same as on oled monitors
if there is some practical limit or just using dsc and 10 bits it will be like 165h-175hz max dp1.4+dsc
but they WILL include DP2.1 on hyperpremium monitors or maybe not if they can't push the hz, but I doubt they won't
then they can go 240hz+ but that will require dp2.1 cables for sure

>>107531697
I upgraded from a shitty pentium to AM4 with a 3060. I had a really good deal on an 850w PSU but that broke during transit. A friend had a spare 1440p monitor that he didn't need so he gave it to me.

>>107531721
so why did you buy a 550w psu after the 850w broke

>>107531747
it was really cheap and I just wanted to get my PC running, in hindsight I was retarded. If I need a new PSU to run the 5070 I might aswell just get a 9070XT.

>>107529010
You can do fine with a 12400/12600k. For Ryzen I wouldn't go lower than a 7500f. The arc pairs well with a 7600x or 9600x though. I just built a family friend an arc b580 build with a 7600x and 32 gb of 6000/c36 in September and we were able to get between 80-120 fps at 1080p high in all of the games we tested and around 75-80 fps in clair obscur in 1080p medium.

>>107531675
You’ll be fine a rtx 5070 is a 250watt gfx chip.

>>107531756
you sound like you may need adhd meds

>>107531675
That's a fucking terrible idea. You can get decent 750w PSUs for under $100. Why spend $600 on a 5070 and then risk blowing it up with a surge failure from an underpowered PSU?

>>107531764
don't we all? or meth

>>107531528
Countries with complex characters in their languages, like Japanese kanji.

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im getting lg c4 42" fomo maybe I should have boughted the dip of that tv, it was cheap, only size I have not tried
I guess I will wait for the c5 42" dip again
maybe 42" was the sweetspot all along...

>>107531675
A 5070 on a 550w gold PSU? What made you think you can run a 5060TI 16GB on a 650W PSU? You're going to need at least 750W to run that 5060TI 8GB safely. You risk killing your entire PC if you pair a 5060 with just an 850W PSU. Do the only sane thing and make sure you get a 1000W PSU for your 5050.

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High IQ anons and anons with clairvoyance, is this a very cucked month to build a PC (from zero, every part of the pc) or will january be even more cucked?

>>107531675
Borderline, depends on build quality, check some reviews.
My 650W PSU managed to handle 363W GPU and 5800x3d but I really did not expect it to work and mostly use 231W power limit.

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>>107531864

>>107531875
Yes. Just Wait for the pop.

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>>107529829
>The most annoying thing anymore is finding a fucking case that can house a lot of HDDs
This is a Lian Li V2000
Now you know why I choose these cases in 2008
I'll probably never get rid of the cases, only downside is they can resonate (easily dampened by adhesive sound foam) and there's no opening to help with removing the CPU cooler while the mobo is mounted
I should probably Dremel one and sand down to see if I can do it myself
https://c1.neweggimages.com/productimage/nb640/11-112-062-02.jpg

>>107531875
I have seen literally no indication that ram situation is getting better soon.

Ram manufacturer #1 quit making consumer stuff
#2 #3 dont plan to increase production
If they did suddenly decide to increase production it'd take years to come online

Theres news of AI datacenters that are currently paused because they cant get hardware, and thats going to create a backlog of ram orders where they are willing to bid more for them than average gamer.
The situation is unprecedented.

>>107531875
ram i bought went up again just 2 days ago

Any particular recommendations for a wifi card? Moved into a place where the router is as far from the computer as possible and i dont feel like running 100ft of cable or buying mesh

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>>107531896
>>107531906
Well, I hope the prices don't increase a lot by the time I have money in early january or I'm gonna fucking kill myself

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>>107531907
wifi wont save you through multiple walls

>>107531941
the prices are already 4-5x normal
you're not building a pc now, forget about it

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>>107531952
This shit hurts

>>107531896
so just wait a year or go for a ddr4 ram motherboard?

>>107531622
>1 live copy + 1 backup ?
Yeah on my main library, too big to store another copy really given my storage space lel

>>107531895
Damn now thats an old school beast of a case

>>107531944
These have way too much interference

>>107531675
I have a 3080 with the same cpu on a 650w and have no issues. 550 is probably a bit tight even for a 5070 though

>>107531896
I wish I bought 256GB RAM. I have no need for it, but it would be funny to say my build is like $10k (if the prices keep going up I mean).
Actually I take that back. I wish I bought 256 terabytes of RAM so I could sell it on Facebook Marketplace for like a million dollars.

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Does Amazon get suspicious if you return too many items? Being able to return used PC parts for arbitrary reasons is getting too convenient.

>>107532044
you can stop gap with a 16gb ddr5 stick if you can stomach the extra 200 that youll pay for it?

>>107532203
yes but it is a 3 step process
if you start doing it too much they won't refund you right when you drop the return off at your local ups
they will make you wait 2 weeks while they check the return
then if you keep returning they will warn you with an email
then if you keep doing it they will ban you

The prices are never going back to normal, right? I'm talking about GPUs to be more precise

>>107532259
go buy one and enjoy your fake frames and fake resolution.

>>107532260
Never said I'm gonna buy one right now... I just wanna know

>>107532259
No, GPUs will eventually. The current situation just can't last forever.

>>107532220
Based returner

>>107532082
not if you use ethernet

>>107531210
what are your other options

>>107532361
Okay I'm gonna wait up like crazy then, I'll probably hit 30 by the time it happens lol but whatever

>>107532203
amazon fucks you so its okay to fuck them.
be the anon who exchanged a 5090 4 times to get a golden sample

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I'm still so fucking torn about what is the best PSU.

If money is no objective, what's the best 1000-1200W?
ATX 3.1 (w/ 12VHPWR)
Yes I'm that guy and here's my current build, most are on the way for delivery
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qJbjPJ

I was thinking of overkill Seasonic TX-1300 but it even has increased $40 over the last week and lots of people have had DOAs in the last 2 months.

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I changed my mind again. I will wait for the Atmos II instead of buying the Atmos Stealth unless there's a holiday sale.

>>107532259
GPU prices left the earth when the 2080TI was priced at $1000

>>107532568
HX1200i is more than enough...

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>>107532573
for me its dolby atmos

>>107532568
be Quiet! Dark Power 14 1000 or 1200W is also good (Titanium efficiency).
https://hwbusters.com/psus/be-quiet-dark-power-14-1200w-atx-v3-1-psu-review/
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fcPv6h/be-quiet-dark-power-14-1200-w-80-titanium-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bp021us

>>107532582
Jesus Christ, I could almost buy a whole budged gaming PC with that money

>>107532568
Superflower, Silverstone

>>107532615
The be Quiets I found also just randomly fucking explode with no reason rather than DOA.
Hell, even German review sites report this. Yes, I trust the weirdo Germans.

>>107532589
I think I'm going with that, that's been by second choice the whole time but I'm so sour I was late to build and didn't grab an AX1200i... Thanks for making me lean in it's direction, I'll probably sleep on it and pull the trigger tomorrow morning. I used Seasonic in my last build and it was a whisper quiet ol' reliable.

>>107532568
FSP Hydro TI 1000w

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I'm gonna wait 8 years max to buy a new PC (can't upgrade curren one) if prices don't get better in that span of time, I'll have to kill some of you guys

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>>107528531
Anons, I have an R5 3600. I'm sticking with AM4.
Should I go 5700X or 5500X3D or 5600/X? 5700X and 5500X3D are practically same price here, 5600/X being about 1/4 cheaper.
I have no interest on going AM5 (too expensive)
Don't play competitive, lock FPS at 60. Mostly ARPGs, single player games at 1080p.
I have an RX 6600 XT.
Would I even need to upgrade to one of those? If so, which would be the best price/performance?

>>107532747
5700x3d

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>>107532670
Where did this FSP come from? Are they rebranded Seasonics?
Damn, can't believe I missed this brand.

Reviews look promising, thank you!!

>>107532750
That's 2-2.5x the price of the 5700X/5500X3D right now here, so no go, sadly.

>>107532747
>5500X3D
no questions asked. wish we had those here.

>>107532764
not like you're in a hurry better max out your board before even that disappears

>>107532755
FSP is an OEM like CWT, SeaSonic, and SuperFlower.
Check HWBusters for PSU reviews; the Cybenetics PSU rater runs that website.

>>107532755
FSP has been around for as long as any of them.
Mostly OEM/Server with a handful of retail options. They where always good but never had much "street cred"
The last 5 years they have really put an effort into their own retail units.

Why they still aren't well known is a mystery to me. The Hydro TI kicks the snot out of most of the typically recommended PSUs in noise

>>107532802
fsp makes a lot of those small external unites for notebooks, thin clients and medical computers.

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>>107532662
>The be Quiets I found also just randomly fucking explode with no reason rather than DOA.
Just got the 1000W Pure Power 13 for $110 and was feeling good until I read this. Fuck you.

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>>107532840
psu

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>>107532840
>Style: Dark Power Pro 13
>Works great until it randomly doesn't. Has serious design flaw. Just google "dark power pro pop" and you will find a literal sea of poor souls that have wasted their money on this trash. Oh, and their support doesn't speak english and will do anything to not honor the warranty.

>Size: 1300WStyle: Dark Power Pro 13Verified Purchase
PSU Self Immolated about 3 months into use. Worked perfectly for a while, then created a spectacular light and sound show for a few seconds and let all the magic blue smoke out. Killed the main board, and the RAM. Very glad my MB sacrificed itself to save the CPU and SSDs.
>Still in warranty, but company is super slow to respond and I would need to ship back to Europe, just to get a PSU that I don't trust. Not worth the bother.
>At least I got a little light show out of it. Tho as a nap wake up alarm, not the best option.

this shit right here made me not even touch be Quiet
and if you don't believe me
>be quiet! Dark Power 14 1000W ATX 3.1
>Ich arbeite in einem PC Shop und das erste Dark Power 14 Netzteil das wir verbaut haben ist im idle betrieb Explodiert und hat funken geschlagen. Sowas darf halt nicht passieren.
>>I work in a PC shop, and the first Dark Power 14 power supply we installed exploded and sparked while in idle mode. Something like that simply shouldn't happen.
https://geizhals.de/be-quiet-dark-power-14-1000w-atx-3-1-bp020eu-a3628568.html?hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=eu&hloc=pl&hloc=uk


Im really torn. I like the Corsairs but HX1200i doesn't have a 12VHPWR, I like Seasonic but it seems like a bad batch is going aroound the USA and it keeps nearing $500 if I wait, and FSP seems promising but wiffy on reviews depending on 1000->1200W.

If I'm sitting at 600W (9800X3D+5070Ti), am I going overkill at 1200W or still good for transient? I did my calcs without contributing 1 fan controller + 2x 3.5 HDDs but I doubt that will add more than 60W.